| maine | Guys have some questions about potentially using a non-systemd distro with xfce. have any of you guys ever used Devuan / antiX / MXLinux? | 01:35 |
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| maine | Any suggestions if i've used xbuntu a decent amt. | 01:35 |
| Unit193 | Not really, I guess have at it? | 01:37 |
| maine | heh well - i appreciate ppl still using irc | 01:38 |
| maine | i didn't even know there was so many cool people in IRC! :D | 01:38 |
| maine | i was thinking about trying gentoo but i heard that compiling stuff is like - make a coffee and come back 5 hours later on old hardware. sounds a meme. | 01:39 |
| maine | i guess from an xubuntu question. Parole Media player is infinitely better than the default GNOME experience with Totem. significantly better. | 01:39 |
| maine | but i guess i've wondered why everyone seems to package Totem/VLC/Parole in xbuntu's case when mpv imho is the perfect player. | 01:40 |
| maine | One more thing: why are people such haters when it comes to some distros. i was chatting in Discord w/ someone i respect. he's more knowledgable about coding than me but can be a bit of a snob | 01:42 |
| maine | he uses some kind of debian (idk if it's testing or stable or what), but when he found out i'm using some flavour of buntu he told me "Ubuntu is a cancer" or tumour or something on "Debian" and he was very rude about it. | 01:42 |
| maine | told me i'm not supposed to go near ubuntu and to stick to Debian | 01:42 |
| Unit193 | mpv doesn't have a nice clikcy UI, you need smplayer or something for a nice frontend, and most of them are Qt whereas Xubuntu is GTK based. | 01:42 |
| Unit193 | I use mpv though. | 01:43 |
| maine | i'm just like (shrug) my stuff works... it feels good. | 01:43 |
| Unit193 | FWIW, I'm actually a Debian devloper and Xubuntu dev, I say use what works best for you. :P | 01:43 |
| maine | Unit193 i will admit that mpv has this barebones UI that makes it super confusing for a new user to understand where all the stuffs are. | 01:43 |
| maine | i remember i was like... huh.. it says to just drag and drop into it and there's no sidebar or nothing like we are used to in VLC and others heh | 01:44 |
| maine | but the simplicity is actually super cute. | 01:44 |
| maine | especially if you want to launch some web mp4 from just terminal with a url or something | 01:44 |
| maine | or watch a stream barebones. | 01:44 |
| maine | you have to know hotkeys and stuff too. it definitely is a minimalists dream | 01:44 |
| maine | > FWIW, I'm actually a Debian devloper and Xubuntu dev, I say use what works best for you. :P | 01:45 |
| maine | thanks for ur work! | 01:45 |
| maine | i cant' code- im just a dude who thinks free software is cool | 01:45 |
| Unit193 | https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ff2mpv see that too, or like I mentioned smplayer. | 01:45 |
| maine | Unit193 any ideas on what's more like pleasant and stuff when it comes to like a systemd free environment? | 01:46 |
| Unit193 | Nope, not really looked into it. I did it with Debian itself not long ago just to test, but I didn't try Devuan or whatnot. | 01:46 |
| Unit193 | Xubuntu requires systemd, which is fine. | 01:47 |
| maine | okay i'll try to chad it out myself and be an alpha dog. i might give a few of these systemd one's a spin | 01:47 |
| maine | though i think i will try 24.04 xub in two days. | 01:47 |
| maine | T-Minus 25-30 hours until new stable distro drop. | 01:47 |
| maine | i guess probably more like 35-40 hours but you get my gist. | 01:48 |
| maine | one more question but idk if anyone can give me a great answer. Does compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver give any kind of smoothing when i'm web browsing or watching videos on mpv? | 01:49 |
| maine | i have a good monitor and high refresh rate and stuff. can't tell any difference really with compositor off when i'm gaming (less input lag but barely noticable). | 01:49 |
| maine | should i be using compositor when i ain't gaming for lower inputlag with web browsing and watching videos on MPV? | 01:49 |
| maine | does compositor xfwm make stuff smoother looking and less "tear" inducing? | 01:50 |
| maine | my PC loads are generally small. i don't run heavy processes. | 01:50 |
| Unit193 | xfwm doesn't really get in the way, it's best just to leave the compositor on. | 01:51 |
| maine | like explain like i'm five what it does? is there some hardware acceleration it's doing too? | 01:51 |
| maine | it just makes monitor stuff look more smoother? | 01:52 |
| Unit193 | https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfwm4/wmtweaks#compositor wow, that really doesn't have anything useful does it? >_< | 01:53 |
| maine | heh. one of the main reasons why i went for xubuntu was that GNOME has mutter and it's annoying (and kinda roundabout to disable it). and someone told me xubuntu you can set a shortcut and just click that checkbox to enable and disable. | 01:55 |
| maine | believe it or not some competitive shooters where frame-rates are 500 FPS plus, we can feel that compositor is a slight drag on our reaction time. | 01:55 |
| maine | that was the only reason i tried xubuntu :D | 01:55 |
| maine | but then i like the overall speediness of it and lightness. | 01:55 |
| maine | so it's nice that you can easily hotkey enable and disable xfwm. | 01:56 |
| maine | but i was told that it generally makes user experience "better" and to have it enabled when i ain't playing my twitch shooter games and stuff. | 01:56 |
| maine | so that's what i sorta do. | 01:56 |
| maine | i used to go into grub and do like "mitigations=off" before gaming and reboot PC, but i became too lazy to keep swapping btw the mitigations on and off for the 33% performance increase. | 01:57 |
| maine | i just assume if i get f'd by some spectre/meltdown shiz... it's on me. | 01:57 |
| maine | i never did find out what exactly makes compositors so desirable if you already have a high refresh rate and most stuff on the web is 1080p 60frames. but i assume it helps prevent screen tearing and screen artifacts and has some kinda triple buffering shiz. | 01:58 |
| maine | but i am totally ignorant. not sure at all what xfdm is making "more visually" appealin' | 01:59 |
| xu-help33w | hi. I autoinstall for Xubuntu from PXE server possible ? | 07:50 |
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| PeGaSuS | even when we check the "Download updates while installing Xubuntu", we still need to install the updates ourselves. if the option doesn't work, why does it exist? | 15:26 |
| PeGaSuS | I had a USB stick with 22.04.2. I installed it, checked the option. then, on first boot, I typed `sudo apt update` and it said 333 packages to update | 15:27 |
| PeGaSuS | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 15:27 |
| Exterminador | I'm facing 2 issues with a fresh Xubuntu install (dual boot with Windows): 1) VGA port only shows 640*480 resolution but display ports (I have an adapter DP->VGA) show 1024*768. 2) somehow, my wifi card seems to not be detected | 16:03 |
| Exterminador | okay. the WiFi card issue was caused by Windows. I had to deactivate the "Quick start" or whatever it is called on Windows | 16:33 |
| Exterminador | the resolution issue still remains | 16:34 |
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