| jadeia | Any OPs able to update the topic in @ubuntu-release-party | 01:40 |
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| Fiji | hi there! i'm trying to upgrade some packages on ubuntu and i've got 8 packages that are upgradable, but when i try to `install` or upgrade, apt refuses to do the upgrade it seems to know about from `apt list --upgradable`. these packages don't seem to be held, so i'm not sure exactly where the problem is (and the apt-cache policy says i'm on the most recent. for reference i'm on 20.04 and trying to upgrade | 02:18 |
| Fiji | the question is, how can i upgrade these packages so i can upgrade my OS? :) | 02:18 |
| NickH | "apt upgrade" will only upgrade package, it will not install any new packages | 02:37 |
| NickH | So you probably need to "apt full-upgrade" or "apt dist-upgrade" | 02:37 |
| Fiji | NickH, when I tried that, it just says that i need to upgrade my packages before i do that | 02:39 |
| NickH | Maybe best to post the full output of all of "sudo apt update", "sudo apt upgrade", "sudo apt full-upgrade" to a pastebin | 02:40 |
| Guest70 | Hi, any information on 24.04 LTS release? Its already 25th in most of the part of the world | 02:40 |
| Bashing-om | !party | Guest70 | 02:43 |
| ubottu | Guest70: Please remember that our support channels are for technical support and not general chat. To countdown to !noble release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party. Thank you! :) | 02:43 |
| NickH | Fiji: "apt list --upgradable" too | 02:43 |
| Guest70 | Got it - thanks | 02:44 |
| Fiji | NickH: https://pastebin.com/jAa9Btn3 | 02:47 |
| NickH | What about "sudo apt full-upgrade"? | 02:49 |
| NickH | Hmm, has i386 achitecture been removed? | 02:51 |
| NickH | Do you actually need those i386 packages? | 02:51 |
| Fiji | hey NickH - just saw your messages, i'm not sure why i have i386 packages or where they came from. i'd like to remove them, but something tells me removing `libc6` may cause more harm than good | 03:49 |
| Fiji | https://dpaste.org/vAp0X | 03:50 |
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| Ratman5005 | At what time does the new ISO get posted? | 04:53 |
| Ratman5005 | 24.04 | 04:54 |
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| arraybolt3 | Ratman5005: We don't know yet. It will be today, but we're not yet sure what time. | 05:21 |
| LuckyMan | can't wait to format my pc | 05:47 |
| LuckyMan | do a fresh install and configure all the goodies | 05:48 |
| lotuspsychje | !discuss | LuckyMan | 05:48 |
| ubottu | LuckyMan: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 05:48 |
| NickH | Fiji: as long as you are really on x86_64 and those i386 packages were just pulled in as multiarch (probably for something like wine) then it should be fine to remove them. | 07:03 |
| NickH | It is certainly what I would do. | 07:03 |
| asdrubale | hello! do you know when will it be released?? :))) | 07:49 |
| lotuspsychje | asdrubale: somewhere today (if everything goes as planned) | 07:51 |
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| lurtz | hello, when will 24.04 be relased? is it not the big day today? | 08:43 |
| lurtz | :D | 08:43 |
| saxin | its not released yet :) | 08:44 |
| lurtz | is it just hours left? | 08:44 |
| nikolam | Why I can't kill dd that sends /dev/random to usb flash? I tried Ctrl+C Ctrl+Break, I closed terminal emulator window/tab, I tried sudo kill -9 on process ID, it ignored everything till it stopped at some moment out of my control .. 22.04 | 08:45 |
| nikolam | Now again the same thing. I end up not knowing what it did, did it continue working, ignoring kill signals till the end or not.. | 08:47 |
| nikolam | it is very annoying not being able to control nor stop processes on your own machine.. | 08:49 |
| guimo | nikolam: I assume the process is blocked until the block (bs) is written. | 08:58 |
| nikolam | guimo, yes and I have no control over it as sudo or root as it seems | 08:59 |
| nikolam | bs is 2M and image was 1.7G on slowish USB flash. But problem is why kernel can't stop the process? Or tools like kill -9 are not adequate | 09:00 |
| guimo | If 2M takes so long, then it seems a buffer is between. | 09:06 |
| guimo | Maybe a dd option can avoid that. | 09:07 |
| nikolam | I don't have an option to kill process. dd should be just a process I can kill | 09:08 |
| guimo | You can disconnect the USB-Stick. Then dd should stop immediately. ;-) | 09:10 |
| nikolam | so kernel can't control processes | 09:10 |
| nikolam | or I need another tool to stop them if pkill and kill -9 does not work | 09:11 |
| nikolam | Like now, dd is saying, after pushing from /dev/urandom to flash, "Nos pace left on device. And hangs there forever , not reacting to Ctrl+C nor kill -9 | 09:17 |
| guimo | And the USB-activity-LED? | 09:19 |
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| nikolam | guimo, yes. | 09:27 |
| nikolam | And I got answer like this: "you can't kill a process that waits for a i/o syscall to finish (status D). " | 09:27 |
| nikolam | me: omfg , wth | 09:27 |
| nikolam | It's a kernel thing it is not capable of stopping process. | 09:28 |
| ph88 | my laptop crashed during a dist-upgrade, can i just restart the upgrade or what should i do? "Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please contact a system administrator" | 09:37 |
| ph88 | it keeps crashing like that when i reboot | 09:39 |
| SatoruGojo | can you enter tty with alt + ctrl + F1 or any other F key | 09:39 |
| gordonjcp | I hate Windows-y error messages like that | 09:40 |
| nikolam | I was given idea to put oflag=sync when using dd, so it can be interrupted. Maybe that shoudl be default at least for dd , since the kernel can't handle processes. | 09:40 |
| ph88 | SatoruGojo, you mean at the point it has already crashed ? | 09:41 |
| SatoruGojo | the whole system? or the desktop environment | 09:43 |
| ph88 | SatoruGojo, it's a white background with black letters. When i press ctrl + alt + f5 i get back to a terminal like view | 09:43 |
| SatoruGojo | yes | 09:43 |
| SatoruGojo | there is a way out but its bit advance | 09:44 |
| SatoruGojo | you desktop environment is crash not the whole system | 09:44 |
| SatoruGojo | crashes* | 09:44 |
| ph88 | ok what do i do ? | 09:45 |
| SatoruGojo | you are on ubuntu right? | 09:45 |
| SatoruGojo | or kbuntu or any other spin? | 09:46 |
| ph88 | ubuntu | 09:46 |
| SatoruGojo | so you are using gnome | 09:46 |
| ph88 | yes | 09:47 |
| SatoruGojo | login into tty and try to restart gdm by ruing "sudo systemctl restart gdm" | 09:48 |
| ph88 | how can i login into tty ? | 09:48 |
| SatoruGojo | type your username first | 09:48 |
| SatoruGojo | then password | 09:48 |
| ph88 | i don't get to the username and password screen | 09:48 |
| ph88 | i only get grub then when i boot ubuntu i get this white screen with black text | 09:49 |
| SatoruGojo | boot into ubuntu | 09:49 |
| ph88 | booting into ubuntu crashes with white background and black letters saying: "Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please contact a system administrator" | 09:50 |
| ph88 | i don't get to the login screen | 09:50 |
| SatoruGojo | then type alt +ctrl F3 or any other F key | 09:50 |
| SatoruGojo | when it says Oh no! | 09:51 |
| ph88 | i did alt + ctrl + F5 ... then it shows a terminal but no prompt. In the terminal the last line is: [ 36.0175553] usb usb1-port6: unable to enumerage USB device. And below that i have a flashing underscore | 09:53 |
| ph88 | i can't type anything there | 09:53 |
| guimo | nikolam: I had a USB stick, the activity LED didn't stop blinking. The manufacturer's tool was able to make the stick functional again (a little bit smaller, more reserve blocks). | 09:53 |
| SatoruGojo | ph88 i am very sorry its looks like you broke your ubuntu | 09:54 |
| ph88 | can it be repaired ? | 09:54 |
| ogra_ | there should be a recovery option in the grub menu | 09:55 |
| SatoruGojo | maybe chroot into help but i don't think so | 09:55 |
| ogra_ | ... that gets you a root shell on the system | 09:55 |
| ph88 | ogra_, recovery entry is not available | 09:55 |
| ogra_ | in the advanced ubuntu meny entry IIRC | 09:55 |
| ogra_ | *menu | 09:55 |
| ph88 | the advanced menu only offers to boot into different kernel versions | 09:56 |
| SatoruGojo | you can try that | 09:56 |
| ph88 | i already tried, it also crashes | 09:56 |
| ph88 | so i guess the next step is to boot live cd, copy the home directory and then wipe the partition and reinstall fresh ? | 09:57 |
| nikolam | guimo, I am a bit sure, this one indicates activity and it is ablut linux kernel buffers. But thankg for the info, that usb stick itself can be a problem sometimes. | 09:58 |
| nikolam | Thanks | 09:58 |
| zoomm10 | ph88: boot the system in runlevel 3, multi-user | 09:59 |
| SatoruGojo | thats only thing i guess | 09:59 |
| ph88 | zoomm10, how do i do that ? | 10:00 |
| ph88 | https://ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads where is the ubuntu 24.04 iso ? | 10:00 |
| SatoruGojo | its still in beta | 10:01 |
| SatoruGojo | just google ubuntu 24 iso | 10:01 |
| ogra_ | yeah, 24.04 is not ourt yet | 10:01 |
| ogra_ | *out | 10:01 |
| OLGA | hii https://www.highcpmgate.com/vdvpyk3j?key=f2b21af2cea51f467a32bdc200d0bff7 | 10:02 |
| tomreyn | please dont click this link, its spam | 10:02 |
| SatoruGojo | that link looks sus | 10:02 |
| OLGA | hii https://www.highcpmgate.com/vdvpyk3j?key=f2b21af2cea51f467a32bdc200d0bff7 | 10:02 |
| ph88 | ogra_, o_O i thought it was releasing today | 10:03 |
| volum | define today | 10:04 |
| SatoruGojo | pretty soon | 10:04 |
| ogra_ | ph88, "today" is a very flexible term ... day ends at UTC plus 14 in kiribati 😉 | 10:04 |
| ogra_ | so there is still plenty of time | 10:04 |
| respawn | hm lubuntu 24.04 getting lots of updates | 10:04 |
| OLGA | hii https://www.highcpmgate.com/vdvpyk3j?key=f2b21af2cea51f467a32bdc200d0bff7 | 10:04 |
| zoomm10 | ph88: the message say: Please contact a system administrator... there is lot of steps to figure out what and where is the problem....first of all is to backup the existing status...and more more steps to solve the problem...if you do not know how to fix it...contact a system administrator... | 10:08 |
| SatoruGojo | i think he is the system administrator | 10:09 |
| ph88 | yes | 10:09 |
| zoomm10 | SatoruGojo: he has the password, but is not a system administrator | 10:10 |
| SatoruGojo | this happen to me while ago on debian but i was able to enter tty | 10:10 |
| lotuspsychje | !next | respawn | 10:10 |
| ubottu | respawn: Noble Numbat is the codename for Ubuntu 24.04. For technical support, see #ubuntu-next. For testing and QA feedback and help, see #ubuntu-quality. | 10:10 |
| SatoruGojo | zoomm10 he can't even login as root | 10:11 |
| zoomm10 | SatoruGojo: it looks like the ph88 cannot login as root? right? | 10:14 |
| ph88 | yes | 10:14 |
| SatoruGojo | hes system is broke | 10:15 |
| SatoruGojo | can't even enter tty | 10:15 |
| volum | i upgraded windows server from and to the same version to fix that os. i wonder if ubuntu lets you do the same thing, i.e. reinstall /usr and whatnot but preserve /home. note that this is not official support. just a thought. | 10:15 |
| volum | i.e. boot ubuntu installer iso and install without formatting | 10:16 |
| SatoruGojo | the only thing he can do is boot up a live iso and cp the important files and reinstall ubuntu | 10:16 |
| volum | but why even copy files | 10:16 |
| volum | why not just preserve /home | 10:16 |
| SatoruGojo | yeah that | 10:16 |
| zoomm10 | SatoruGojo: who has to solve the problem? the System Administrator, you know that this name is a job tilte.... | 10:16 |
| volum | like it might be slightly dirty but it should in theory work | 10:17 |
| SatoruGojo | ? | 10:17 |
| volum | leftover files | 10:18 |
| volum | from the original install | 10:18 |
| volum | i don't know if ubuntu actually supports this method, though | 10:18 |
| SatoruGojo | good thing he has the option to cp | 10:20 |
| volum | true. a copy is probably prudent | 10:21 |
| akshay-kita | Hello everyone | 10:29 |
| akshay-kita | At what time is Ubuntu 24.04 releasing? | 10:30 |
| theodordord | Not known, some time today. | 10:31 |
| volum | akshay-kita https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce | 10:31 |
| Akimb | I am planing on upgrading from 22.04 to 24.04, but not entirely sure if I should do that on release day, haha. Historically, were there many instances where LTS release had problems ? | 10:36 |
| theodordord | Akimb AFAIK the Upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04 is only going to be available with 24.04.1 LTS | 10:38 |
| theodordord | See -> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble-numbat-release-notes/39890 under "upgrades" | 10:39 |
| tomreyn | usually around this time, not neccessarily at the exact same time as .1 releases | 10:39 |
| Akimb | Ahh, I see. Thanks for info | 10:40 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:21 |
| oerheks | #ubuntu-release-party | 13:01 |
| tuxick | beer? | 13:05 |
| NeilRG | Currently upgrading to 24.04 | 13:08 |
| NeilRG | anything I should know? | 13:08 |
| oerheks | see the releasenotes? | 13:09 |
| leftyfb | NeilRG: it's not released yet. The upgrade path from previous versions isn't yet supported | 13:09 |
| NeilRG | oh | 13:09 |
| younder | More like a cold shower.. There was a last minute installer bug that needed fixing | 13:09 |
| NeilRG | I'm just following this? https://sypalo.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu | 13:09 |
| oerheks | following unogfficial guides, great | 13:10 |
| oerheks | just wait for the 24.04.1 releasepoint | 13:10 |
| NeilRG | oh is there an official guid? | 13:10 |
| leftyfb | NeilRG: no, since it's not released yet | 13:10 |
| NeilRG | okay I don't mind waiting, but is my system okay? I've done sudo do-release-upgrade -d | 13:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | NeilRG: the official guide is to wait until the software updater prompts you to install the upgrade to 24.04 | 13:11 |
| NeilRG | is that bad? | 13:11 |
| leftyfb | upgrade paths from previous versions won't be available till July | 13:11 |
| NeilRG | ok | 13:11 |
| NeilRG | what does do-release-upgrade do? | 13:11 |
| pragmaticenigma | NeilRG: probably a good idea to have looked that up before blindly trusting a random web article | 13:11 |
| NeilRG | haha yeah | 13:12 |
| pragmaticenigma | do-release-upgrade is how a system is upgraded to the next supported version. the "-d" sets a flag to allow the tool to look at the development release | 13:13 |
| younder | All beta tester have access to the release before moths in advance. They take out the worst bugs. The release is indeed in april, but it is 24.04.1 which is released in july which is the real 'long term support' version | 13:14 |
| younder | The first i guess we are currently at 22.04.4 | 13:14 |
| younder | Again by registering with the pro program which is free for non commercial use for up to 5 machines you can get a 6.5 kernel today. Perhaps that is a kind of 'band-aid' | 13:17 |
| younder | For quite a while actually.. | 13:18 |
| leftyfb | younder: 6.5 is available to all users running Ubuntu 22.04. Not just pro. | 13:18 |
| oerheks | i am already at 6.5.0-28 | 13:18 |
| oerheks | Pro > HWE | 13:18 |
| younder | oerheks: my badpixel | 13:18 |
| NeilRG | hello again | 13:20 |
| NeilRG | my system won't start now | 13:20 |
| NeilRG | how can I fix it? | 13:20 |
| oerheks | won' t start after upgrading to 24.04? | 13:21 |
| NeilRG | won't start after running whatever that command was: do-release-upgrade -d | 13:21 |
| NeilRG | it didn't finish, and my screen went black | 13:21 |
| NeilRG | I don't mind reinstalling, but is there any way for me to just install 24.04? | 13:21 |
| leftyfb | NeilRG: it's not released yet | 13:22 |
| oerheks | -d development .. | 13:22 |
| NeilRG | I thought it came out today? | 13:22 |
| leftyfb | it will | 13:22 |
| jcm__ | the ISO is released tho, right? | 13:22 |
| leftyfb | no | 13:22 |
| NeilRG | okay, so later today I can download it? | 13:22 |
| leftyfb | 24.04 is not release nor supported yet | 13:22 |
| NeilRG | I'd rather not install my system tiwce | 13:22 |
| younder | You got the beta version NeilRG.. | 13:22 |
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| NeilRG | younder: I didn't get anything since my system is broken :( | 13:23 |
| leftyfb | younder: he has a broken install is what he has | 13:23 |
| NeilRG | lol yeah | 13:23 |
| oerheks | !isitout | 13:23 |
| ubottu | For all I know, the latest Ubuntu release is 23.10 (Mantic Minotaur). You can double-check this on the https://ubottu.com/y/announce *archives* and subscribe for future release notifications. | 13:23 |
| NeilRG | where will the download pop up? | 13:23 |
| leftyfb | https://ubuntu.com/download | 13:23 |
| leftyfb | in your case https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop | 13:24 |
| NeilRG | thank you | 13:24 |
| NeilRG | if I have a working dual boot, can I boot into windows, download it, (somehow?) put it on a USB stick, and then install it over top of my alread-partitioned drive? | 13:25 |
| leftyfb | in theory | 13:25 |
| NeilRG | great | 13:26 |
| younder | Lucky escape.. | 13:26 |
| NeilRG | do you know what a good windows software would be to do that? | 13:26 |
| leftyfb | NeilRG: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview | 13:27 |
| NeilRG | Thank you! | 13:27 |
| loris | I'm on lubuntu and the default wallpaper disappeared (it's now solid black) | 13:29 |
| NeilRG | is there a way for me to get bak into my broken system without the GUI? (the gui is what's crashing, says somethign about unable to start gnome) | 13:29 |
| NeilRG | I would like to make sure I don't have any precious files | 13:29 |
| jcdutton | Is 24.04 being released today? | 13:29 |
| loris | lemme check | 13:30 |
| lotuspsychje | yes jcdutton | 13:30 |
| tomreyn | loris: for lubuntu specific questions, you may have more luck getting a useful response in #lubuntu | 13:30 |
| leftyfb | NeilRG: boot it and hit CTRL+ALT+F4 to get a terminal. Login and try running: "sudo apt update ; sudo apt install -f && sudo apt full-upgrade" | 13:30 |
| loris | tomreyn: there's basically nobody in #lubuntu (we're 2) | 13:31 |
| tomreyn | that's not right | 13:31 |
| NeilRG | leftyfb: okay I'm in GRUB, says Ubuntu and advanced options for ubuntu | 13:32 |
| NeilRG | under advanced, I have recovery mode | 13:32 |
| NeilRG | or normal | 13:32 |
| leftyfb | try recovery | 13:32 |
| NeilRG | recover menu: resume, clean dpkg , fsck, grub, netowrk, root, system-summary | 13:33 |
| Ratman5005 | Hi guys, I expected to wake up to 24.04 Being available. Has it been delayed? | 13:33 |
| leftyfb | Ratman5005: April 25th isn't over yet | 13:33 |
| tomreyn | Ratman5005: no, your expectation was incorrect | 13:33 |
| NeilRG | resume is "resume normal boot", "root" is a root shell, which is very weird | 13:33 |
| Ratman5005 | Yes, I get it's still the 25th. | 13:33 |
| NeilRG | leftyfb: any idea what I do next? | 13:36 |
| leftyfb | NeilRG: pick root and run the commands I posted above | 13:36 |
| NeilRG | press enter for maintenance or press ctrl-d to continue? | 13:37 |
| tomreyn | enter | 13:37 |
| tomreyn | networking would have been good, though | 13:37 |
| NeilRG | unable to resolve host: temporal failure in name resolution | 13:38 |
| tomreyn | NeilRG: do you have an ethernet connection on this computer? | 13:39 |
| tomreyn | or just wireless? | 13:40 |
| NeilRG | tomreyn: ethernet | 13:40 |
| NeilRG | both | 13:40 |
| NeilRG | but it's connected by ethernet now | 13:40 |
| tomreyn | good | 13:40 |
| tomreyn | NeilRG: type "reboot" and press enter. reboot to recovery again. on the menu, select, in this order: fsck, network, clean dpkg, root. then press enter to run the shell. then: apt update && apt upgrade && apt full-upgrade && apt --purge autoremove | 13:40 |
| tomreyn | in case of any errors, take a screenshot with a mobile phone / tab and upload it to imgur.com (or similar site) and post the url to the image here | 13:41 |
| Fiji | thanks for the help NickH last night! you nudged me in the right way: i ended up deleting the `i386` packages, at some point I found out my `/etc/apt/sources.list` file was using bad/wrong URLs and after i updated it seemed to work fine. thanks again! | 13:41 |
| NeilRG | tomreyn: thanks for the help, it didn't work. I'll transcribe here | 13:42 |
| tomreyn | NeilRG: however, if you have current backups (as you should!) and are considering a fresh install of 24.04 LTS instead, then i'd suggest you just wat a few hours until it releases and install that instead. | 13:42 |
| tomreyn | *waIt | 13:43 |
| NeilRG | tomreyn: that's what I'll do. Yes, everything I have is backed up on github | 13:43 |
| NeilRG | there's a few files I'd like to pull off the drive is all. | 13:43 |
| leftyfb | "a few hours" now you've done it :) | 13:43 |
| tomreyn | you can do that from the live/installer image. | 13:43 |
| NeilRG | tomreyn: oh really? | 13:44 |
| NeilRG | that's good news | 13:44 |
| NeilRG | it will drop me to a console? Or? | 13:44 |
| tomreyn | NeilRG: the ubuntu desktop installer has two modes of operation: (a) install ubuntu, (b) run a live system which is similar to a full ubuntu installation, with a graphical desktop. you can use this to mount your existing file systems and copy data from there to some other storage you have available. | 13:45 |
| NeilRG | awesome | 13:45 |
| NeilRG | thanks! | 13:45 |
| NeilRG | in that case I'll just wait | 13:46 |
| tomreyn | (you can alternatively drop to a tty (console) or open a terminal emulator, if you prefer that.) | 13:46 |
| jcdutton | NeilRG, If the GUI won't work, does CTRL-ALT-F1 or F2 etc. get you to a login prompt? | 13:50 |
| NeilRG | jcdutton: where do I use that? | 13:51 |
| NeilRG | I get : Failed to start cups.serivce, networkmanager, etc. | 13:51 |
| tomreyn | that's a 'no' | 13:51 |
| leftyfb | that's a really broken system | 13:53 |
| jcdutton | NeilRG, you can press CTRL-ALT-F1 to F12 any time. One of them might give you a login prompt, you can then login at the command line and look for your files | 13:55 |
| NeilRG | jcdutton: WOW that worked | 13:56 |
| NeilRG | I'm even in zsh | 13:56 |
| NeilRG | this is aweosme | 13:56 |
| leftyfb | I did point this out 30 minutes ago | 13:57 |
| NeilRG | leftyfb: sorry I didn't understand. I was trying to use ctrl-alt-f4 in the GRUB menu | 13:57 |
| NeilRG | i'm a bit of a noob | 13:57 |
| tomreyn | didn't you take a decision to install 24.04 instead? | 13:57 |
| NeilRG | tomreyn: yeah, but I"ll get a head start on saving my important files | 13:58 |
| NeilRG | since I can do that now | 13:58 |
| tomreyn | i see | 13:58 |
| NeilRG | is there a way to restart the network | 14:04 |
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| jcdutton | NeilRG, what is wrong with your network? For tempory fix, you can do "ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.10/24" or similar to set an IP address | 14:10 |
| tomreyn | i don't think ifconfig is installed on current ubuntu releases, is it? | 14:10 |
| NeilRG | tomreyn: not found | 14:10 |
| NeilRG | ifconfig not found | 14:11 |
| NeilRG | sudo ifoconfig: temporary failure in name rsolution | 14:11 |
| NeilRG | oh that's a sudo error or something | 14:11 |
| NeilRG | oh | 14:12 |
| tomreyn | there's the 'ip' command. and on a working ubuntu desktop installation, you could sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager | 14:12 |
| NeilRG | my ntfs partition is still mounted | 14:12 |
| NeilRG | I can just put stuff there | 14:12 |
| jcdutton | ip a add 192.168.1.101/255.255.255.0 dev eth0 | 14:12 |
| jcdutton | the ifconfig one is just a little shorter | 14:13 |
| NeilRG | cannot find device eth0 | 14:13 |
| jcdutton | NeilRG, "ip link" will list the ethernet devices | 14:14 |
| NeilRG | should I save my pubic/private keys? | 14:14 |
| NeilRG | lo enp3s0 wlo1 | 14:14 |
| NeilRG | if so, whcich folders are those in usually? | 14:14 |
| NeilRG | .gnupg | 14:15 |
| NeilRG | and .ssh | 14:15 |
| NeilRG | ? | 14:15 |
| NeilRG | do I save all that stuff between installs? | 14:15 |
| jcdutton | You public/private ssh keys will be in /home/username/.ssh | 14:15 |
| NeilRG | okay what's .gnupg? | 14:15 |
| jcdutton | NeilRG, what do you need the network working for, you could just use USB sticks. | 14:15 |
| NeilRG | jcdutton: I'm using my windows drive. didn't realize I had it up | 14:16 |
| erradi | hello | 14:17 |
| erradi | who speaks french ? | 14:19 |
| jcdutton | NeilRG, well, if you want the network working. You will need to know which IP address to give it then do: | 14:19 |
| NeilRG | I speak french | 14:19 |
| oerheks | !fr | 14:19 |
| ubottu | Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper «/join #ubuntu-fr» ou «/join #ubuntu-qc». Merci. | 14:19 |
| jcdutton | ip a add X.X.X.X/24 dev enp3s0 replacing X.X.X.X with the IP address | 14:19 |
| === ch0ps3y is now known as Guest3983 | ||
| yano | https://releases.ubuntu.com/noble/ | 14:38 |
| yano | it's here! :D | 14:38 |
| Ratman5005 | Woot! | 14:38 |
| kimtuomi | That is just what I tried to asked at wrong channel. | 14:39 |
| kimtuomi | Is it the real image that is there? Can this be confirmed? | 14:39 |
| oerheks | no announcement yet .. | 14:39 |
| leftyfb | It's not officially released yet | 14:39 |
| oerheks | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2024-April/thread.html | 14:40 |
| tomreyn | an email will show up there saying it is officially released when it is. | 14:40 |
| === Szadek9 is now known as Szadek | ||
| Wheeetabix | banan | 14:43 |
| Ratman5005 | An email to who? How do you subscribe? | 14:45 |
| tomreyn | !isitout | 14:46 |
| ubottu | For all I know, the latest Ubuntu release is 23.10 (Mantic Minotaur). You can double-check this on the https://ubottu.com/y/announce *archives* and subscribe for future release notifications. | 14:46 |
| === Szadek9 is now known as Szadek | ||
| ogra_ | Ratman5005, an email to the ubuntu-announce mailing list (that was linked above) | 15:07 |
| Ratman5005 | subscribed, thanks! | 15:08 |
| yano | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2024-April/000301.html | 15:29 |
| Ratman5005 | Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) released | 15:30 |
| Ratman5005 | Official announcement! | 15:30 |
| leftyfb | interesting that the announcement points to https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop to download 24.04 but it's not available there | 15:31 |
| Ratman5005 | Yep! | 15:31 |
| leftyfb | 24.04.1 won't be releases till August | 15:31 |
| === Flimm_ is now known as Flimm | ||
| tomreyn | https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop is available for me now, and the download starts, too | 15:34 |
| leftyfb | tomreyn: I just tried with 2 different browsers on 2 different machines. The main website still isn't showing as updated for me | 15:35 |
| leftyfb | and now it's not even loading lol | 15:36 |
| tomreyn | leftyfb: you'Re right, i didn't read properly | 15:36 |
| tomreyn | sorry | 15:36 |
| tomreyn | this still returns empty, too: curl -s https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-lts | grep -B3 -A9 '^Version: 24.04' | 15:39 |
| ioria | i see the iso here ... but, who knows. https://releases.ubuntu.com/noble/ | 15:40 |
| Ratman5005 | It's up now and I am downloading the ISO. | 15:41 |
| Ratman5005 | https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop | 15:42 |
| ioria | yep, yep | 15:42 |
| Ratman5005 | Any tips on configuring my BIOS so that it will auto unlock TPM Based Disk Encryption? I have never gotten it to auto unlock in the past. | 15:42 |
| Ratman5005 | ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-F GAMING WIFI | 15:43 |
| Ratman5005 | AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X3D × 32 | 15:43 |
| Ratman5005 | I have been through the BIOS but don't see what I am missing. | 15:43 |
| leftyfb | Ratman5005: you want #hardware for that | 15:43 |
| lotuspsychje | tomreyn: can we put 24.04 in the topic here? | 15:44 |
| Ratman5005 | Just #hardware? Not like ubunu-hardware? | 15:44 |
| leftyfb | Ratman5005: BIOS settings have nothing to do with the OS you're running ... for the most part | 15:45 |
| Ratman5005 | In this case it's a dependency. | 15:45 |
| Ratman5005 | And I don't have problems with Windows 11 Bitlocker. | 15:46 |
| Ratman5005 | Just Ubuntu. | 15:46 |
| leftyfb | Ratman5005: TPM settings in the BIOS have nothing to do with the OS on the hard drive | 15:46 |
| leftyfb | Ratman5005: ok, so then you're asking for help with ubuntu utilizing the available TPM then, not "configuring my BIOS" | 15:47 |
| tomreyn | Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: https://ubottu.com/y/gl | #ubuntu supports Ubuntu and official flavors; versions 20.04, 22.04, 23.10, 24.04. #ubuntu-next for 24.10 | Unofficial derivatives: Use your distro's support channel, not here | IRC info: https://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to https://dpaste.com | Download: https://ubottu.com/y/dl | 15:47 |
| lotuspsychje | thank you tomreyn : ) | 15:47 |
| ioria | Ratman5005, why BIOS ? i think you can do that via software | 15:48 |
| Ratman5005 | Well right, but I assume it's not working because something isn't right in the bios | 15:49 |
| tomreyn | lotuspsychje: you're welcome | 15:49 |
| Ratman5005 | but not 100% sure, because if I knew, I'd just fix it! :-) | 15:49 |
| ioria | Ratman5005, e.g. https://www.reddit.com/r/openSUSE/comments/12klulc/tutorial_autounlock_an_encrypted_home_with_the_tpm/?rdt=51219 | 15:49 |
| ioria | Ratman5005, and https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/noble/man1/systemd-cryptenroll.1.html | 15:53 |
| NeilRG | looks like 24.04 is up now | 15:53 |
| Guest50 | Hey, the Ubuntu community page for full disk encryption (2019) was written by Tj, does anyone know if he is still around? | 15:53 |
| ioria | i'd like to know | 15:54 |
| Guest50 | 24.04 isn't showing logical volumes on the UI installer, so cannot assign correct formatting etc to them | 15:54 |
| tomreyn | Guest50: rarely around here, i think he switched distros | 15:54 |
| MSM757 | I can't install 24.04. The intaller keep crashing. Tried 5 times now. Same every time. Anyone have any idea? Also it wont show logical drives either. So that's an issue. | 15:55 |
| Guest50 | tomreyn ah shame.... Is there an equivalent guide? | 15:55 |
| tomreyn | Guest50: i do not know, sorry | 15:55 |
| Ratman5005 | I thought it was just done during the install (no need to use systemd-cryptenroll) is that wrong? | 15:55 |
| tomreyn | MSM757: have you verified the iso checksum? | 15:55 |
| ioria | Ratman5005, idk, sy | 15:56 |
| Guest50 | Is the 24.04 installer "actual" FDE then? There was a reason his guide existed | 15:56 |
| Guest50 | Or do we know why the new installer doesn't show mappers? | 15:57 |
| Guest50 | It doesn't show partitions/lvs | 15:57 |
| tomreyn | Guest50: i do not know for certain, but i would be very surprised if the 24.04 installers would support encrypting /boot now. | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | well, if you pick the TPM option there is no /boot and you get FDE | 15:58 |
| MSM757 | tomreyn: yep Cheksum is good. It just dosen't work. | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | (and your kernel is a snap) | 15:58 |
| Guest50 | What's the point of the manual partitioning option if I cannot see logical volumes? | 15:58 |
| MSM757 | This issue was reported several times during the Beta apparently. I found a thread. I guess they didn't fix it. | 15:59 |
| Guest50 | I cannot assign swap.... | 15:59 |
| Guest50 | This is stupid | 15:59 |
| tomreyn | Guest50: which installer are you using? | 15:59 |
| MSM757 | Yeah. the logical partitions not showing up is an issue for me too. | 16:00 |
| MSM757 | THis is totally jacked. | 16:00 |
| MSM757 | Nothing works. | 16:00 |
| Guest50 | Normal installer... | 16:00 |
| tomreyn | desktop? server? core? something else? | 16:00 |
| Ratman5005 | It does say experimental still: Experimental support for TPM-backed Full Disc Encryption and ZFS encryption | 16:01 |
| ogra_ | logical partitions ? if your machine uses UEFI the partiton table will likely default to GPT ... there is no such thing like logical partitions in GPT | 16:01 |
| tomreyn | ogra_: oh that's interesting, nice. | 16:01 |
| Guest50 | tomreyn sorry back | 16:02 |
| Guest50 | MSM757 so you are also manually installing with LVM? | 16:02 |
| MSM757 | No LVM. just regular install. | 16:02 |
| MSM757 | installer crashes randomly. | 16:02 |
| Guest50 | I don't understand why they have removed this option, am.I missing something? | 16:03 |
| Guest50 | It should show logical volumes surely? | 16:03 |
| ogra_ | yeah, volumes for LVM | 16:03 |
| MSM757 | First time it crashed two seconds after i opened it. Next time it creashed 50% through. This most recent time it crashed during the user setup screen. | 16:03 |
| ogra_ | but not logical partitions (for MBR) | 16:03 |
| Guest50 | ogra_ "lvs" show my created volumes, but the installer doesn't show them, just has the partition showing "crypto luks" | 16:04 |
| Guest50 | So I cannot select the volume for swap or root... | 16:04 |
| ogra_ | ah, luks ... | 16:04 |
| Guest50 | Yes luks sorry | 16:04 |
| MSM757 | No, By defaults Debian and Ubuntu always used an extended or "logical" partition for swap. If you're manually parittionting those parittions are not visable. That's he's talking about. I have the same issue. | 16:05 |
| tomreyn | MSM757: have you verified the data written to the installer media matches the checksum, too? did the installer self-check succeed during boot? does this system match the minimum requirements? | 16:05 |
| MSM757 | tomreyn: yes, yes, and yes. It's just broken. | 16:05 |
| Guest50 | I mean cmon the installer option is called "manual partitioning" :) | 16:06 |
| tomreyn | ubuntu desktop has been defaulting to gpt partition tables and swap *files* for a while | 16:06 |
| MSM757 | There was an active bug report on this issue in the beta. I found a thread. LIke i said. It just dosen't work. They never fixed it i guess | 16:06 |
| tomreyn | MSM757: would be nice to see it, if you can find it. | 16:07 |
| Guest50 | So does someone actually have the answer, is this a bug or did they remove the ability to use LUKS like this? This has worked forever | 16:08 |
| MSM757 | it also crashes on Boot up every time, Dumps me directl into a live session of the desktop. Dosen't give me the options | 16:08 |
| tomreyn | if you can'T find the existing bug report and there is a malfunction or regression that does not seem to be related to your unique environment, please file a bug report | 16:10 |
| MSM757 | What's ironic for me. Is the LTS releases of Ubuntu have always been the most broken. | 16:10 |
| MSM757 | It's always been like that. and i've used Ubuntu since 2004. LOL!! | 16:10 |
| Guest50 | tomreyn but I'm not sure this is even a bug, did they just remove the ability to use LVs as various mount points? I can only see the partitions, not the luks volumes | 16:11 |
| MSM757 | The early alpha builds didn't crash on me though. LOL!! | 16:11 |
| Guest50 | Normally under device it shows /dev/mapper/volume-group | 16:12 |
| tomreyn | Guest50: i do not know. i also don't expect the desktop installer to support into existing on-disk structures. | 16:12 |
| Guest50 | Now I'm just seeing normal partitions so nvme0n1p5 | 16:12 |
| tomreyn | *installing to | 16:13 |
| Guest50 | tomreyn why are you saying that? Based on what changes? This has always worked | 16:13 |
| NeilRG | does anyone know how to answer "how do you want to install ubuntu" I want to format my linux partition, but thta's not an option | 16:13 |
| Guest50 | tomreyn is there some higher level conceptual changes that makes you think they've removed this option? | 16:14 |
| NeilRG | also do I want LVT or ZFS? | 16:14 |
| NeilRG | LVM* | 16:14 |
| MSM757 | So this is my last attempt. I used Parted Magic to prepartition the drives. I will then run the insaller with no options selected. Everything defaults, I will also run the installer via terminal so i can have eyeballs on the output, So i can see the moment it creashes. If it crashes. | 16:14 |
| MSM757 | If it happens again, i'm calling it quits. Going to to Debian. | 16:15 |
| MSM757 | I was looking forward to this release. But if i can't even install the damn thing. Well..... can't do much about that. | 16:15 |
| ravage | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-desktop-provision/+bug/2058511 | 16:16 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2058511 in ubuntu-desktop-provision "Disk Setup / Manual installation missing LVM LV as target" [Undecided, New] | 16:16 | |
| webchat18 | is http://ppa.launchpad.net slow/down for anyone else? | 16:16 |
| tomreyn | Guest50: i know that the desktop installer changesd some releases ago. i do not know whether all of the previous features were ported to the new one. | 16:17 |
| tomreyn | Guest50: i was just saying what my personal expectations would be for the desktop installer (it probably supports additonal scenarios). | 16:18 |
| Guest50 | ravage thank you, glad its reported, be interesting to see if this is in fact a bug or Ubuntu doesn't want people manually using LVM | 16:18 |
| Guest50 | tomreyn see above, someone else reported it. It worked in 23.10. | 16:18 |
| tomreyn | Guest50: "It worked in 23.10." is your statement? I don't see this on the bug report. | 16:19 |
| Guest50 | That isn't my bug report. | 16:20 |
| Guest50 | Someone just linked it above | 16:20 |
| tomreyn | i understood so much. | 16:20 |
| Guest50 | This sort of thing is so basic to check, how can major UI changes to the installer not be tested I mean | 16:21 |
| tomreyn | Guest50: i'm wondering whether you're saying this is a regression, because the bug report does not say so but you wrote "It worked in 23.10." | 16:21 |
| Guest50 | Its worked like I and the reporter is describing for like a decade. | 16:22 |
| Guest50 | I just can't believe that nobody has noticed this, which makes me think its been removed on purpose | 16:22 |
| tomreyn | i don't remember this (installing to existing LV's) ever working on the desktop installer, but i can be wrong entirely. | 16:24 |
| ravage | im am 100% sure you could do that on the 22.04 installer | 16:25 |
| tomreyn | desktop? | 16:25 |
| ravage | yes | 16:25 |
| tomreyn | okay, then it's just my memory, thanks. | 16:26 |
| ravage | the whole manually partitioning part got crippled really | 16:26 |
| ravage | no manual LVM. no manual luks paritioning | 16:26 |
| ravage | it was always possible to do the setup how you like it and then just assign the partitions | 16:27 |
| leftyfb | well, there goes the neighborhood | 16:28 |
| ELFrederich | hey, congrats on the release. Any idea when it'll be released for WSL? This just has jammy still... https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/wsl/releases/ | 16:43 |
| tomreyn | ELFrederich: try #ubuntu-cloud | 17:02 |
| Muligan | hey fellas, know of anyway to upgrade an ubuntu 19.04 server to 22.04lts? | 17:05 |
| tomreyn | !eolupgrade | Muligan | 17:05 |
| ubottu | Muligan: End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 17:05 |
| tomreyn | read the last link there slowly, and more than once. | 17:06 |
| tomreyn | i mean the page which the link points to | 17:06 |
| tomreyn | a fresh installation may be the best option, though | 17:07 |
| === DeepThoughts9 is now known as DeepThoughts | ||
| forensicZip | I am back in the h00d. | 17:15 |
| forensicZip | Working on setup of my Ubuntu package, w/ the PPA, then going to push into Debian. Thank you Jen or Jan, and the others that give this helpful infos. | 17:16 |
| === tomreyn changed the topic of #ubuntu to: Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: https://ubottu.com/y/gl | #ubuntu supports Ubuntu and official flavors; versions 24.04, 23.10, 22.04, 20.04. #ubuntu-next for 24.10 | Unofficial derivatives: Use your distro's support channel, not here | IRC info: https://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to https://dpaste.com | Download: https://ubottu.com/y/dl | ||
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| === riOwnage8771 is now known as riOwnage877 | ||
| tarzeau | ok i have 24.04 but sound plays and shows in pavucontrol. but there's no sound | 17:28 |
| tarzeau | tried modplugplay and ocp -dcurses. also youtube.com nor yewtu.be make sound in firefox | 17:28 |
| tarzeau | pulseaudio -k; alsa force-reload don't help either | 17:28 |
| nvmd | dmesg? | 17:28 |
| tarzeau | ah pulseaudio -D says E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed. | 17:29 |
| tarzeau | 2257738.198201] [drm:ci_dpm_set_power_state [radeon]] *ERROR* ci_upload_dpm_level_enable_mask failed | 17:29 |
| tarzeau | oh this is interesting: amixer -D pulse sset Master toggle # it says that front left/right playback N [off] | 17:31 |
| * tarzeau keeps on reading https://www.maketecheasier.com/fix-no-sound-issue-ubuntu/ | 17:32 | |
| tomreyn | the error message is from an attempt to play audio through the ("radeon" driven) gpu's audio chip. | 17:33 |
| tarzeau | hm. now youtube.com works. sometimes it works, sometimes not | 17:33 |
| tarzeau | anyways. yt music works, but not modplugplay and ocp :( ah well | 17:34 |
| tomreyn | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80365 may have more info, but i can't currently access it. or maybe they took down bugzilla for good now. | 17:36 |
| tomreyn | https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/634 would be the curren tone | 17:37 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 634 in drm/amd "[radeon] [drm:si_dpm_set_power_state [radeon]] *ERROR* si_restrict_performance_levels_before_switch failed" [Closed] | 17:37 | |
| tomreyn | hmm no that's a diffferent one, sorry | 17:37 |
| ebernhardson | I recently installed ubuntu jammy, mostly working but one issue. On my second monitor there are permenantly rendered drop-zones to the right and left of the screen. If i drag a window into it it will expand to cover that half of the screen. The problem is they don't go away, and they render over the top of my windows obscuring the text. I'm guessing i have the wrong terminology, because i can't | 17:41 |
| ebernhardson | find anything about these. | 17:41 |
| ebernhardson | the first screen has the same functioality, but doesn't look to be visually rendering the drop zones | 17:42 |
| tomreyn | do you have custom gnome-shell-extensions installed? | 17:43 |
| ebernhardson | tomreyn: not that i've explicitly installed. gonme-shell-extension-{appindicator,ubuntu-dock} are installed | 17:44 |
| lotuspsychje | tarzeau: wich AMD graphics do you have please ( for another bug test ) | 17:45 |
| ebernhardson | fwiw a screenshot doesn't capture the overlay, it's happening at a different level | 17:46 |
| tomreyn | ebernhardson: use a mobile phone / tablet to capture it the old way, upload it to an image sharing site. | 17:46 |
| tomreyn | are you using wayland or Xorg? | 17:46 |
| tarzeau | lotuspsychje: iMac: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Saturn XT [FirePro M6100] (rev 80) | 17:48 |
| tarzeau | lotuspsychje: approximately 2019/06/17 4cores, 8gb mem | 17:48 |
| ebernhardson | tomreyn: Xwayland apparently, per ps. | 17:49 |
| lotuspsychje | tarzeau: ok tnx, if you're on wayland could you check if hexchat or gimp are resizing windows for you? | 17:50 |
| ioria | ebernhardson, echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE | 17:50 |
| tomreyn | tarzeau: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/firepro-m6100.c2516 says 2013, 2 GB RAM. maybe you have a special model? | 17:53 |
| ebernhardson | ioria: oh nice, thanks. yes it's wayland. | 17:54 |
| tarzeau | lotuspsychje: if i have DISPLAY=:0 i'm not on wayland? | 17:54 |
| ioria | ok | 17:54 |
| ebernhardson | the visual artifact looks like this, overlayed over the default background image: https://ibb.co/LCmnvt9 | 17:54 |
| tarzeau | tomreyn: a newer imac with 4k | 17:54 |
| tomreyn | tarzeau: oh you were probably referring to the computers' overall specs, sorry. | 17:54 |
| tarzeau | but maybe the card is still the same old, no idea | 17:55 |
| tarzeau | tomreyn: yes, sorry | 17:55 |
| lotuspsychje | tarzeau: im just interested in a weird wayland bug to reproduce, not really sure yet what causes it | 17:58 |
| ioria | ebernhardson, just on the 2° screen ? | 17:58 |
| ebernhardson | ioria: yea, it only renders that on the second screen (laptop is main screen, second is usb-c) | 17:59 |
| ioria | ebernhardson, intel graphics ? | 17:59 |
| ebernhardson | ioria: yea lists as intel i915 | 18:00 |
| ioria | ebernhardson, to be sure : lshw -c video| grep vendor | 18:02 |
| ebernhardson | ioria: yup, also lists intel | 18:02 |
| ioria | ok | 18:02 |
| ioria | ebernhardson, do you know how to set a kernel parameter ? | 18:05 |
| tarzeau | lotuspsychje: more details? | 18:05 |
| ebernhardson | ioria: yea, from grub | 18:05 |
| ioria | ebernhardson, ok; try 'i915.enable_psr=0' | 18:05 |
| ebernhardson | another curious bit, if i mirror the screens it still has the artifact only on the second screen. so leans towards the drivers idea | 18:05 |
| ebernhardson | ioria: thanks, be back in a moment | 18:06 |
| lotuspsychje | tarzeau: bug #2061132 | 18:08 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2061132 in hexchat (Ubuntu) "Hexchat cannot resize window anymore + freeze" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2061132 | 18:08 | |
| ebernhardson | ioria: sadly no change, other than /proc/cmdline now includes i915.enable_psr=0 | 18:11 |
| ioria | ebernhardson, i see | 18:12 |
| ioria | ebernhardson,sudo apt purge xserver-xorg-video-intel and reboot (without the parameter) | 18:17 |
| ebernhardson | sure, back in a sec. | 18:17 |
| ebernhardson | ioria: still same after purge and reboot | 18:19 |
| ioria | ebernhardson, ok, maybe is a reslotion/scale issue but no other ideas | 18:19 |
| ioria | *resolution | 18:19 |
| ioria | ebernhardson, you can try the Xorg session (via the login screen) | 18:21 |
| ebernhardson | ioria: poked around resolution changes, refresh rates, sadly nothing. Thanks for looking though, I appreciate it. | 18:24 |
| ebernhardson | might as well try xorg | 18:25 |
| forensicZip | Hey guys, what is the most smexy-beautiful IRC client for Ubuntu? | 18:27 |
| leftyfb | forensicZip: try them out and pick the one you like the best | 18:27 |
| === PowaBanga_ is now known as PowaBanga | ||
| forensicZip | Thank you lefty, this good advice. I might make my own in Python, using QT designer. Ex. PySide latest, with slick/dark theme. | 18:29 |
| JanC | lotuspsychje: do other applications that use XWayland have the same bug? | 18:29 |
| lotuspsychje | JanC: yes, i can reproduce almost the same with gimp, it just dont freeze with gimp | 18:30 |
| lotuspsychje | and on xorg it works like a charm | 18:30 |
| JanC | so that's where the bug is then, I guess | 18:30 |
| JanC | with a GIMP v3 (on Gtk 3) release coming close, maybe a beta of that would have been better for Noble... | 18:33 |
| lotuspsychje | JanC: we tested it on other users too, with a fresh noble cant reproduce it on intel graphics | 18:34 |
| lotuspsychje | so maybe a wayland/amd combo? | 18:35 |
| lotuspsychje | i had it early with terminator too, but that fixed suddenly | 18:35 |
| oerheks | forensicZip, supported clients https://libera.chat/guides/sasl | 18:35 |
| JanC | maybe xwayland/amd, or maybe it's related to certain options (like fractional scaling etc.) | 18:35 |
| lotuspsychje | i dont have scaling enabled here | 18:36 |
| lotuspsychje | but worth a test | 18:37 |
| ravage | ELFrederich: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/wsl/noble/current/ | 19:30 |
| sotaoverride | ls | 19:31 |
| ravage | oh. https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/wsl/releases/noble/current/ exists now too. never mind | 19:32 |
| === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon | ||
| kaleido | any estimate of when do-release-upgrade will bump me to 24.04? | 20:14 |
| Milencho | +1 i've tried but still not available | 20:15 |
| tomreyn | somewhat soon after 24.04.1 | 20:15 |
| kostkon | @kaleido in about six months when 24.04.1 will come out | 20:15 |
| arraybolt3 | Does Ubuntu Desktop have a built-in BitTorrent client? I thought it came with Transmission but that seems to be in Universe. | 20:17 |
| oerheks | build in, yes, transmission as standard | 20:18 |
| oerheks | !info transmission | 20:18 |
| ubottu | transmission (4.0.2-1ubuntu3, mantic): lightweight BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Built by transmission. Size 2 kB / 9 kB | 20:18 |
| arraybolt3 | how is it in Universe if it's on the Desktop ISO? | 20:19 |
| leftyfb | kostkon: 4 months | 20:19 |
| oerheks | universe is enabled by default, AFAIK | 20:19 |
| arraybolt3 | It was my understanding that no package that was shipped as part of the ISO itself could be in Universe. | 20:20 |
| * enyc meows | 20:20 | |
| enyc | arraybolt3: from where? | 20:20 |
| arraybolt3 | I've been told that by at least one dev | 20:20 |
| leftyfb | arraybolt3: https://releases.ubuntu.com/22.04.4/ubuntu-22.04.4-desktop-amd64.manifest#:~:text=transmission%2Dgtk%093.00%2D2ubuntu2.1 | 20:21 |
| arraybolt3 | huh. Weird. | 20:21 |
| leftyfb | and 24.04 https://releases.ubuntu.com/24.04/ubuntu-24.04-desktop-amd64.manifest#:~:text=transmission%2Dcommon%094.0.5%2D1build5 | 20:21 |
| kostkon | @leftyb I was about to correct myself but forgot going back and forth between apps on mobile | 20:22 |
| giovanni_ | hi | 20:25 |
| giovanni_ | i have a qua | 20:25 |
| arraybolt3 | Mystery solved, `transmission`, the package, is *not* in Ubuntu Desktop. `transmission-gtk` is, and it... | 20:41 |
| arraybolt3 | !info transmission-gtk | 20:41 |
| ubottu | transmission-gtk (4.0.2-1ubuntu3, mantic): lightweight BitTorrent client (GTK+ interface). In component main, is optional. Built by transmission. Size 1,000 kB / 2,880 kB | 20:41 |
| arraybolt3 | ^ is in Main. So that clears that up. | 20:41 |
| oerheks | good spot, and -common | 20:42 |
| leftyfb | interesting. I assumed transmission was the backend for transmission-gtk | 20:44 |
| GSMarquis | Apparently I require "linux-firmware 20240410" for the fix for my amd gpu. Does Ubuntu update the linux-firmware package periodically or is it locked per release? | 20:45 |
| oerheks | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware | 20:47 |
| leftyfb | looks like it's in noble but not jammy | 20:47 |
| oerheks | indeed | 20:48 |
| genii | !info amd64-microcode | 20:48 |
| ubottu | amd64-microcode (3.20230808.1.1ubuntu1, mantic): Processor microcode firmware for AMD CPUs. In component main, is extra. Built by amd64-microcode. Size 143 kB / 275 kB. (Only available for i386, amd64, x32.) | 20:48 |
| genii | hm | 20:48 |
| oerheks | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amd64-microcode | 20:49 |
| GSMarquis | I have updated to 24.04 but it contains linux-firmware20240318, this update litterally came a few days ago. | 20:49 |
| kostkon | @GSMarquis it gets updated periodically afaik | 20:50 |
| leftyfb | GSMarquis: please read the "trunk series" column on the right side of the link oerheks provided | 20:50 |
| oerheks | 20240410 is not in proposed yet, too soon? | 20:50 |
| leftyfb | 20240318.git3b128b60-0ubuntu2 in Ubuntu 24.04 im the main repo is based on the 2024-04-10 trunk series | 20:51 |
| GSMarquis | ironically, this 20240318 version was pulled into 24.04 on 4-10. LOL | 20:51 |
| leftyfb | which means you should have what you are looking for | 20:51 |
| oerheks | nasty bug for Navi31 and Navi33 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/2063417 | 20:52 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2063417 in linux-oem-6.5 (Ubuntu Noble) "Fix system hang while entering suspend with AMD Navi3x graphics" [Undecided, New] | 20:52 | |
| graingert | when can I upgrade to 24.04 lts from 22.04? | 20:54 |
| leftyfb | graingert: in August when 24.04.1 is released | 20:54 |
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| oerheks | with the 24.04.1 releasepoint | 20:54 |
| GSMarquis | This was a fresh beta install. | 20:54 |
| graingert | ah cool | 20:54 |
| oerheks | oh, then apt update gives you the full 24.04 | 20:55 |
| graingert | that seems very sensible and cautious | 20:55 |
| JanC | usually you get prompted a little after .1 | 20:55 |
| kostkon | @oerheks there's a readily available fix that's good | 20:55 |
| GSMarquis | The 7900 GRE gpu has a vbios bug that is fixed via Linux-firmware. Apparently its memory is clocked incorrectly. | 20:55 |
| JanC | oh, right 24.04 to 24.04 is automatic obviously | 20:56 |
| GSMarquis | AMD is not going to fix the vbios. It was initally set in place to prevent people from OC to close to 7900XT territory. | 20:56 |
| GSMarquis | So I just need the bin file listed in the bug report and drop it into the firmware folder? | 20:58 |
| GSMarquis | Looks like it had commit on 4-5-24 | 21:06 |
| graingert | JanC: that's not an upgrade | 21:14 |
| oerheks | we do not recommend to use the -d development option, but if you do, prepare an usb with a fresh 24.04 iso first | 21:17 |
| oerheks | most of those early upgrade blogs do not warn you enough, things can go south | 21:18 |
| bray90820 | Does sudo do-release-upgrade work yet to upgrade to 22.04 | 21:26 |
| oerheks | indeed, as always | 21:28 |
| oerheks | wait for 24.04.1 | 21:28 |
| bray90820 | So when 24.04.1 comes out is wheb sudo do-release-upgrade will work? | 21:30 |
| oerheks | yes, or you will see the option when you run updates | 21:30 |
| bray90820 | How would I upgrade today? | 21:31 |
| oerheks | fresh install? | 21:32 |
| bray90820 | I was hoping not to have to fresh install | 21:33 |
| bray90820 | I remember there was a command I used last time just can't remember what it is | 21:33 |
| bray90820 | I guess I could run do-release-upgrade -d | 21:35 |
| bray90820 | Would that work? | 21:35 |
| bray90820 | I know it's teh Dev build but since today is release day it should be the regular release or am I wrong? | 21:38 |
| toddc | upgrading is not recommeded or supported till 24.04.1 version | 21:46 |
| ice9 | anybody facing gnome-shell crash upon waking up from suspension sometimes? specially if there is external monitor connected? | 21:48 |
| ice9 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/2063501 | 21:48 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2063501 in xwayland (Ubuntu) "Sometimes gnome-shell crash upon unlocking session from suspension" [Undecided, New] | 21:48 | |
| ice9 | I installed 24.04 beta last week, today the final version was released, but when I run `do-release-upgrade`, it doesn't show up any updates, is that normal? | 21:51 |
| leftyfb | ice9: doing regular package updates will get you to the latest release | 21:56 |
| ice9 | leftyfb, ok, another machine on 22.04, still also can't see 24.04 | 22:05 |
| ice9 | "Prompt=lts" | 22:05 |
| leftyfb | ice9: you won't get the upgrade path from LTS till 24.04.1 is released in August | 22:08 |
| ice9 | wow | 22:09 |
| Muligan | ubottu thank you very much for sharing | 22:52 |
| Muligan | this is a vm that the CTO had tucked away unfortunately | 22:53 |
| lsd|2 | lsd@Crawler-E25:~$ sudo do-release-upgrade -m desktop [sudo] password for lsd: Checking for a new Ubuntu release No new release found. | 23:12 |
| lsd|2 | KDE team not ready or what? | 23:12 |
| oerheks | do-release-upgrade path is available with the 24.04.1 point release | 23:13 |
| oerheks | as usual | 23:13 |
| oerheks | maybe KDE6 in the backports by then 🤪 | 23:15 |
| Guest72 | Hi all, anyone had any luck with full disk encryption while installing Ubuntu 24.04: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019 ? | 23:17 |
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