[11:48] <Guest3509> hello
[12:17] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[18:50] <Zax> Does anyone know when they are going to get the real Kubuntu Torrent up on the website?
[18:51] <Lofful> It's currently just a placeholder: https://kubuntu.org/alternative-downloads/_wp_link_placeholder
[18:52] <oerheks> https://torrent.ubuntu.com/tracker_index
[18:53] <oerheks> oh i see
[18:54] <oerheks> https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/24.04/release/kubuntu-24.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[18:55] <Lofful> Thanks, I got it; just wondering when the website is gonna be updated for the masses
[18:55] <oerheks> have fun, i hope an editor of the website reads this too
[20:37] <administrador> Hello, I just installed Kubuntu 24.04 and Muon is missing, and can't install  it via apt or Discover
[20:38] <administrador> is it depreceated?
[20:38] <administrador> E: Unable to locate package muon
[20:40] <bprompt> hmmm
[20:40] <bprompt> administrador: I was thinking Discover is the new Muon, no?
[20:40] <bprompt> not that I use either
[20:41] <oerheks> yes, muon is old
[20:41] <administrador> oh...
[20:42] <bprompt> I mean, I don't use them to install stuff, but I've run them
[20:44] <bprompt> administrador: https://apps.kde.org/muon/     <------ notice the red-banded-text
[20:49] <administrador> well, I guess I'll just install stuff via the Terminal...
[20:51] <valorie> discover works really well, and I often use it just to test
[20:51] <valorie> it will update flatpaks and snaps (?) too
[20:51] <valorie> otoh konsole is faster, especially with yakuake
[20:52] <valorie> f12 - up arrow, boom, done
[20:52] <valorie> but then you have to do the other stuff too, which... fine
[20:52] <valorie> muon is long gone
[20:53] <valorie> aptitude probably still exists just like IRC does!
[20:57] <bprompt> well, there's also Synaptic
[20:59] <oerheks> not sure that can handle flatpak and snap?
[23:25] <valorie> oerheks: it updates my flatpaks
[23:26] <valorie> but my install is so new dunno about snaps - this install is the first time I've used them
[23:26] <valorie> they seem to be far less buggy these days
[23:32] <valorie> not surprising; Scarlett our current lead maintainer is the queen of snaps for kde software
[23:40] <oerheks> snaps give settings, in gnome, an argument against flatpak, that needs flatseal or the like https://flathub.org/apps/com.github.tchx84.Flatseal