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RikMillssanta_: done00:45
tsimonq2RikMills, sgmoore, santa_, arraybolt3: I put two transition dates on the release schedule. They are *not* set in stone, and can be moved if we deem it necessary. Please ping me to get dates updated if you don't have access: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/oracular-oriole-release-schedule/3646017:55
arraybolt3ty! I do **not** have access.17:57
arraybolt3but that's fine17:57
santa_is that thing restricted? I can access it with my modest permissions level17:58
santa_and I'm not even logged in :|17:59
arraybolt3I mean I don't have *modification* access.18:01
santa_ah18:01
santa_maybe I don't either :D18:01
santa_but it's ok18:02
santa_just FYI misc news from my front:18:31
santa_- fw 5.116.0 almost finised for oracular, pending: noble backports, I'll get to it soon18:32
santa_- as a result of that, four bugs found and fixed in Ka, releasing 2.6.1 at the moment18:32
santa_- my servers area51 and watertown have been already doing oracular package builds, pending: migrating groomlake as well18:33
santa_- kf6 related: at some point. I'm going to retry the experiment of building everything kf5-based against e-c-m 6.x18:35
santa_- I have been doing some mockup to support the 'frameworks6' release type in KA, this is material for a future 2.7 release18:36
santa_and that's all the news so far18:36
santa_tsimonq2, RikMills: recommended reading for frameworks 6 packaging:18:37
santa_1. https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/6.0_Release_notes18:37
santa_2. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Plasma_6.0_Release_notes18:38
santa_3. https://community.kde.org/KDE_Gear/24.02_Release_notes18:38
santa_as you can see in 1. there's a number of packages in kf5 that will need adjustment for co-installability18:41
santa_that's something that we could start to prepare soon + I'll get to kf6 support in KA soon like I mentioned above18:42
santa_for these 2 things it would be convenient to have a separate staging PPA for frameworks618:43
santa_we already have ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks18:44
santa_so my suggestion is to create ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks618:44
santa_and we could start to put there the packages from kf5 that need post-kf6 adjustment18:45
santa_regarding these packages that need post-kf6 adjustments my idea is creating a kubuntu_oracular_postkf6 branch (or maybe you can suggest a better name)18:46
tsimonq2santa_: It may be useful to start looking at what Plasma 6 (and Gear) would look like on KF6, whether we need package renames of some kind.20:21
tsimonq2I just don't think Plasma 5 on KF6 is something we should plan to support20:22
tsimonq2It'll be like that for ... maybe a few weeks at most, while Plasma 6 is getting prepped20:22
tsimonq2The idea is to do it all this cycle20:22
santa_tsimonq2: yes, atm - after a quick look on the release notes I linked above the imprssion that I have is that we need to do it in this order: kf6, plasma6, applications20:24
santa_but please note that kf5 and kf6 will co-exsit for a while, many apps are still at 520:24
santa_that's in fact a repetition of the plasms 5 upgrade from 420:25
santa_we wil have things using 6 already, others still using 520:25
santa_and at some point we will have everything in 620:25
tsimonq2Can we start a list of packages not ported over to 6 yet?20:39
tsimonq2I concur re: FW then Plasma then Gear20:39
santa_we can, indeed crate lists, we can put them in ka-metadata in case we want to use them with do-all or something20:41
santa_hoever I think the next things I'm going to do are:20:43
santa_- repeat the ecm experiment (not very time consuming on my side)20:43
santa_- prepare KA with some initial support of fw6 so we could extract interesting things in ka-metadata + build those lists + do experimental builds of packages20:44
santa_I'll get to it soon20:44
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