RikMills | santa_: done | 00:45 |
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tsimonq2 | RikMills, sgmoore, santa_, arraybolt3: I put two transition dates on the release schedule. They are *not* set in stone, and can be moved if we deem it necessary. Please ping me to get dates updated if you don't have access: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/oracular-oriole-release-schedule/36460 | 17:55 |
arraybolt3 | ty! I do **not** have access. | 17:57 |
arraybolt3 | but that's fine | 17:57 |
santa_ | is that thing restricted? I can access it with my modest permissions level | 17:58 |
santa_ | and I'm not even logged in :| | 17:59 |
arraybolt3 | I mean I don't have *modification* access. | 18:01 |
santa_ | ah | 18:01 |
santa_ | maybe I don't either :D | 18:01 |
santa_ | but it's ok | 18:02 |
santa_ | just FYI misc news from my front: | 18:31 |
santa_ | - fw 5.116.0 almost finised for oracular, pending: noble backports, I'll get to it soon | 18:32 |
santa_ | - as a result of that, four bugs found and fixed in Ka, releasing 2.6.1 at the moment | 18:32 |
santa_ | - my servers area51 and watertown have been already doing oracular package builds, pending: migrating groomlake as well | 18:33 |
santa_ | - kf6 related: at some point. I'm going to retry the experiment of building everything kf5-based against e-c-m 6.x | 18:35 |
santa_ | - I have been doing some mockup to support the 'frameworks6' release type in KA, this is material for a future 2.7 release | 18:36 |
santa_ | and that's all the news so far | 18:36 |
santa_ | tsimonq2, RikMills: recommended reading for frameworks 6 packaging: | 18:37 |
santa_ | 1. https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/6.0_Release_notes | 18:37 |
santa_ | 2. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Plasma_6.0_Release_notes | 18:38 |
santa_ | 3. https://community.kde.org/KDE_Gear/24.02_Release_notes | 18:38 |
santa_ | as you can see in 1. there's a number of packages in kf5 that will need adjustment for co-installability | 18:41 |
santa_ | that's something that we could start to prepare soon + I'll get to kf6 support in KA soon like I mentioned above | 18:42 |
santa_ | for these 2 things it would be convenient to have a separate staging PPA for frameworks6 | 18:43 |
santa_ | we already have ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks | 18:44 |
santa_ | so my suggestion is to create ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks6 | 18:44 |
santa_ | and we could start to put there the packages from kf5 that need post-kf6 adjustment | 18:45 |
santa_ | regarding these packages that need post-kf6 adjustments my idea is creating a kubuntu_oracular_postkf6 branch (or maybe you can suggest a better name) | 18:46 |
tsimonq2 | santa_: It may be useful to start looking at what Plasma 6 (and Gear) would look like on KF6, whether we need package renames of some kind. | 20:21 |
tsimonq2 | I just don't think Plasma 5 on KF6 is something we should plan to support | 20:22 |
tsimonq2 | It'll be like that for ... maybe a few weeks at most, while Plasma 6 is getting prepped | 20:22 |
tsimonq2 | The idea is to do it all this cycle | 20:22 |
santa_ | tsimonq2: yes, atm - after a quick look on the release notes I linked above the imprssion that I have is that we need to do it in this order: kf6, plasma6, applications | 20:24 |
santa_ | but please note that kf5 and kf6 will co-exsit for a while, many apps are still at 5 | 20:24 |
santa_ | that's in fact a repetition of the plasms 5 upgrade from 4 | 20:25 |
santa_ | we wil have things using 6 already, others still using 5 | 20:25 |
santa_ | and at some point we will have everything in 6 | 20:25 |
tsimonq2 | Can we start a list of packages not ported over to 6 yet? | 20:39 |
tsimonq2 | I concur re: FW then Plasma then Gear | 20:39 |
santa_ | we can, indeed crate lists, we can put them in ka-metadata in case we want to use them with do-all or something | 20:41 |
santa_ | hoever I think the next things I'm going to do are: | 20:43 |
santa_ | - repeat the ecm experiment (not very time consuming on my side) | 20:43 |
santa_ | - prepare KA with some initial support of fw6 so we could extract interesting things in ka-metadata + build those lists + do experimental builds of packages | 20:44 |
santa_ | I'll get to it soon | 20:44 |
santa_ | s/hoever/however/ | 20:45 |
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