[00:45] <RikMills> santa_: done
[17:55] <tsimonq2> RikMills, sgmoore, santa_, arraybolt3: I put two transition dates on the release schedule. They are *not* set in stone, and can be moved if we deem it necessary. Please ping me to get dates updated if you don't have access: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/oracular-oriole-release-schedule/36460
[17:57] <arraybolt3> ty! I do **not** have access.
[17:57] <arraybolt3> but that's fine
[17:58] <santa_> is that thing restricted? I can access it with my modest permissions level
[17:59] <santa_> and I'm not even logged in :|
[18:01] <arraybolt3> I mean I don't have *modification* access.
[18:01] <santa_> ah
[18:01] <santa_> maybe I don't either :D
[18:02] <santa_> but it's ok
[18:31] <santa_> just FYI misc news from my front:
[18:32] <santa_> - fw 5.116.0 almost finised for oracular, pending: noble backports, I'll get to it soon
[18:32] <santa_> - as a result of that, four bugs found and fixed in Ka, releasing 2.6.1 at the moment
[18:33] <santa_> - my servers area51 and watertown have been already doing oracular package builds, pending: migrating groomlake as well
[18:35] <santa_> - kf6 related: at some point. I'm going to retry the experiment of building everything kf5-based against e-c-m 6.x
[18:36] <santa_> - I have been doing some mockup to support the 'frameworks6' release type in KA, this is material for a future 2.7 release
[18:36] <santa_> and that's all the news so far
[18:37] <santa_> tsimonq2, RikMills: recommended reading for frameworks 6 packaging:
[18:37] <santa_> 1. https://community.kde.org/Frameworks/6.0_Release_notes
[18:38] <santa_> 2. https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Plasma_6.0_Release_notes
[18:38] <santa_> 3. https://community.kde.org/KDE_Gear/24.02_Release_notes
[18:41] <santa_> as you can see in 1. there's a number of packages in kf5 that will need adjustment for co-installability
[18:42] <santa_> that's something that we could start to prepare soon + I'll get to kf6 support in KA soon like I mentioned above
[18:43] <santa_> for these 2 things it would be convenient to have a separate staging PPA for frameworks6
[18:44] <santa_> we already have ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks
[18:44] <santa_> so my suggestion is to create ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks6
[18:45] <santa_> and we could start to put there the packages from kf5 that need post-kf6 adjustment
[18:46] <santa_> regarding these packages that need post-kf6 adjustments my idea is creating a kubuntu_oracular_postkf6 branch (or maybe you can suggest a better name)
[20:21] <tsimonq2> santa_: It may be useful to start looking at what Plasma 6 (and Gear) would look like on KF6, whether we need package renames of some kind.
[20:22] <tsimonq2> I just don't think Plasma 5 on KF6 is something we should plan to support
[20:22] <tsimonq2> It'll be like that for ... maybe a few weeks at most, while Plasma 6 is getting prepped
[20:22] <tsimonq2> The idea is to do it all this cycle
[20:24] <santa_> tsimonq2: yes, atm - after a quick look on the release notes I linked above the imprssion that I have is that we need to do it in this order: kf6, plasma6, applications
[20:24] <santa_> but please note that kf5 and kf6 will co-exsit for a while, many apps are still at 5
[20:25] <santa_> that's in fact a repetition of the plasms 5 upgrade from 4
[20:25] <santa_> we wil have things using 6 already, others still using 5
[20:25] <santa_> and at some point we will have everything in 6
[20:39] <tsimonq2> Can we start a list of packages not ported over to 6 yet?
[20:39] <tsimonq2> I concur re: FW then Plasma then Gear
[20:41] <santa_> we can, indeed crate lists, we can put them in ka-metadata in case we want to use them with do-all or something
[20:43] <santa_> hoever I think the next things I'm going to do are:
[20:43] <santa_> - repeat the ecm experiment (not very time consuming on my side)
[20:44] <santa_> - prepare KA with some initial support of fw6 so we could extract interesting things in ka-metadata + build those lists + do experimental builds of packages
[20:44] <santa_> I'll get to it soon
[20:45] <santa_> s/hoever/however/