[08:51] <lnnk> Will kubuntu 24.04 provide future updates of kde 5.27 as its a LTS released. As kde 5.27 provide only security patch and bug fixes? will those updates be added to kubuntu?
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[11:22] <lnnk> Will kubuntu 24.04 provide future updates of kde 5.27 as its a LTS released. As kde 5.27 now only provide security patch and bug fixes will those updates come to kubuntu 24.04 too?
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[14:13] <tomreyn> lnnk: unless documented otherwise, you should expect that any Ubuntu flavour will provide security support (but usually not feature updates, though there can be exceptions) for all of its central packages for the entirety of its expected support lifetime.
[14:19] <tomreyn> meaning if an LTS release provides 'somepackage' version 1.2.3 as a pre-installed package at its release, you can expect that 'somepackage' will receive security patches for as long as this LTS is supported - unless documented otherwise. also, its main version number will usually not rise above 1.2.3 (but additional numbers will be appended to that with a hyphon, to indicate updates for security / bug fixes) unless an exception is made or this
[14:19] <tomreyn> is a snap or a special package where upstream releases are being followed (such as it's the case for some web browsers)
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[20:13] <valorie> lnnk:
[20:14] <valorie> oops, already answered
[20:31] <Guest73> hello i have a problem with kubuntu it will only load if i choose recovery mode i have a laptop with a nvidia gpu
[20:32] <Guest73> dose anyone know ho to fix  this should i do a new install?
[20:34] <bprompt> Guest73: well, I don't :), but I'm not using 24.04, I plan to get it in July
[20:35] <Elliria> Did you recently do an update, Guest73?
[20:35] <bprompt> Guest73: hmmm what I can think of, run on recovery, from the recovery menu drop to a "root session", and from there issue an "fsck" on the root mount pount
[20:35] <bprompt> point even
[20:40] <Elliria> In the event that it was a botched update that installed the new kernel and the NVIDIA drivers in the wrong order (it does happen), these are my Rescue 9-1-1 steps for when that happens: https://bpa.st/DKDA
[20:43] <Guest73> i installed kubuntu on my laptop with nvidia gpu but i can only load it thru the repair mode
[20:51] <Elliria> It might have the same issue that can happen on update. The kernel and the NVIDIA driver may have been installed in the wrong order.
[20:51] <Elliria> It's worth a try.
[20:52] <Elliria> The NVIDIA driver must be installed after the kernel so that it can use the kernel for its configuration. If the driver gets installed first, you can't get into the operating system. It's very annoying.
[20:53] <Elliria> I asked in the development channel whether there's someone there who could put a conditional statement in that checks if a video driver and kernel are going to be installed at the same time and then do them in the right order and was told there's no way to control the order.
[20:53] <Elliria> As a result, I just keep those steps handy. Also, when I check for updates, if I see a kernel and NVIDIA drivers, I always manually uncheck the NVIDIA drivers and let the kernel install first, then let the NVIDIA drivers update afterwards.
[20:54] <Elliria> The only time I run into trouble is with those pesky unattended updates that happen automatically if you put off doing an update.
[20:55] <bprompt> Elliria: unless you turn those updates off
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[21:00] <Elliria> The automatic ones?
[21:02] <bprompt> Elliria: yeap, I mean, I have automatic updates from "apt" all disabled, since I do them manually whenever
[21:05] <Elliria> Ah, cool. It seems that I don't, since I ignored some updates the other day while watching a video and then found that it did them for me, darn it.
[21:07] <bprompt> Elliria:  yeap, I don't like that, since I save all .deb files, usually if anything happens or need to reinstall a package
[21:08] <Elliria> I don't. I live dangerously, but should probably do that, too.
[21:08] <bprompt> APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade "0";     <---- usually at /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades
[21:09] <bprompt> or APT::Periodic::Update-Package-Lists "0";   <--- same location
[21:09] <Elliria> Interesting. I don't have that file on my system. Did you add it?
[21:10] <bprompt> Elliria: yeap
[21:10] <Elliria> Cool. Thanks.
[21:11] <bprompt> well, actually, did that a long time ago, I think I did, but you can add any file to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d   it reads any configuration when running "apt", doesn't matter the name of the file, so long is there
[21:12] <Elliria> I do have it. Typo. Heh.