[01:49] <prosurestring> hello!
[01:55] <Jim`> the ISO finally done 
[02:35] <prosurestring> added r
[03:42] <Jim`> arraybolt3 , Unit193: So I installed hplib and it worked
[03:42] <Jim`> For a printer
[03:43] <Jim`> arraybolt3 , Unit193: I had to install "xsane" for it to work in GIMP as a scanner though?
[03:43] <Jim`> is that normal?
[03:44] <Unit193> \o/
[03:45] <Jim`> Unit193: also I remembered I like LXDE better now lol
[03:45] <Jim`> so I'd be installing Lubuntu instead
[03:45] <Jim`> but anyway
[03:58] <arraybolt3> Jim`: Lubuntu switched to LXQt so it probably will be significantly different than you remembered.
[03:58] <arraybolt3> XFCE is probably closer to LXDE than LXQt is now.
[03:58] <arraybolt3> (As a Lubuntu developer, I won't tell you to *not* use it, but you should probably know before you go and try it :P)
[03:59] <Jim`> arraybolt3: I just want close to Windows as possible without KDE
[04:00] <Jim`> or the "LOL YOU BROKE SUCKER! YOU SHOULD HAVE UPGRADED YOUR HARDWARE BEFORE 2025 !!!"
[04:00] <arraybolt3> Xubuntu is probably going to be a lot more like Windows than modern Lubuntu. Modern Lubuntu is great, but it's more like classic Windows, whereas with some work XFCE can be made to be more like Windows 7 or 10.
[04:00] <arraybolt3> And hey, I have a machine here that is too old to run Windows 11 (officially anyway) that gets plenty of use with Linux :D
[04:02] <Jim`> arraybolt3: Yeah why I gotta upgrade my FX-8370 and 950 SC
[04:02] <Jim`> I'll have to to play GTA6
[04:02] <Jim`> but why can't I make that choice myself
[04:15] <Unit193> If that's your thing, look into xfce4-docklike-plugin and xfdashboard too.
[04:16] <Jim`> Unit193: I don't like the "up top" thing 
[04:16] <Unit193> Panel can be moved.
[04:17] <Unit193> https://docs.xfce.org/panel-plugins/xfce4-docklike-plugin/start that's docklike.
[04:19] <Jim`> Unit193: I'm thinking I should probably be using these "min" GUIs for sure 
[04:19] <Jim`> and not KDE or Ubuntu?
[04:23] <Unit193> Up to you what works best for you.
[04:24] <Jim`> Unit193: I don't want the GUI to be eating up all the VRAM trying to play games on Linux before I can get a new Win machine
[11:24] <BadQuanta> If I want gcc-14 on my current install of xubuntu is there a good ppa to add?  ppa:ubuntu-toolchain-r/test doesn't seem to have gcc-14 yet.
[11:43] <BadQuanta> Huh... so 24.04 also defaults to gcc-13?
[11:59] <BadQuanta> Good news. I'm trying out 24.04 in a VM right now; I see it allows me to install gcc-14 from the default repos.  Good news.