[01:47] <xrandr> I have returned :)
[05:06] <kingthegreat2> Is there ab app or function to turn the blue light off to warm
[05:06] <kingthegreat2> Onlcd
[05:47] <skramer> What is the difference between Kernel 6.5.0-28-generic and 6.5.0-34-generic? I'm asking because -28 boots fine but -34 is ending up in a kernel panic
[06:27] <guiverc> skramer, you could look in the changelog for clues; https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/l/linux-meta/linux-meta_6.5.0.28.28/changelog  but don't forget 6.5 kernel is used by more than one release (its a 23.10 kernel, but available via HWE for 22.04)
[07:39] <skramer> guiverc: Thanks for your reply. I just wondered why one 6.5 booted without any issues and the other one does not. Anyway, I'll stick to the -28 kernel for now. Btw. 22.04 was the right guess ;)
[13:59] <Jim`> Is KDE considered "light weight" like XFCE or LXDE?
[13:59] <Jim`> The "Bouncy bongy bongy" GUI of Ubuntu made me want to shoot the screen
[14:15] <xrandr> Jim`: lubuntu is the light weight ubuntu that uses lxde
[14:15] <xrandr> j #macos
[14:16] <xrandr> oops
[14:16] <Jim`> xrandr: I suppose I should be looking into that if I want quick and fast and all that jazz?
[14:17] <xrandr> Depends on your hardware and your needs.  Older hardware should probably take advantage of lubuntu
[14:17] <Jim`> 950 SC + FX8370
[14:17] <Jim`> I decided I aint going to come in to $400 before Oct 2025 magically
[14:17] <xrandr> I have a 12 year old PC right now that I am running Kubuntu on and it works just fine.
[14:17] <Jim`> to get a Win 11 machine
[14:17]  * xrandr shudders at the mention of Windows
[14:18] <Jim`> xrandr: I was told if Win 11 don't support it now, it probably wont by 2025
[14:18] <Jim`> Specially with no TPM2.0
[14:18] <xrandr> It's also an i5 quad core with 24gb ram, and kubuntu is running on a sata ssd
[14:19] <xrandr> Jim`: that is true.  Obviously use what you are comfortable with; even if that is Windows (and all the exploits and malware that comes with it)
[14:19] <Jim`> xrandr: I aint Keeping Win10 after Oct 2025
[14:20] <Jim`> but Ubuntu made me want to shoot my screen soon as I booted it up and it started bouncing around in the middle back and forth
[14:20] <xrandr> Might be a graphics driver issue then
[14:20] <Jim`> I thought it was just how it's GUI is??
[14:21] <xrandr> if the whole screen is bouncing back and forth,  that is not the way the GUI is
[14:21] <Jim`> No, when you open/close programs
[14:21] <xrandr> oh,  then yes.  But you can customize that behavior
[14:22] <Jim`> I was hoping for more old Gnome Hardy times
[14:22] <Jim`> but got that Unity junk
[14:22] <Jim`> and Linux Mint hasn't upgraded to the latest LTS
[14:22] <Jim`> so I don't see installing that
[14:22] <xrandr> You can always just remove ubuntu-desktop and install gnome-desktop
[14:23] <xrandr> sudo apt install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[14:23] <xrandr> for the full gnome desktop
[14:24] <Jim`> https://www.gnome.org/
[14:24] <Jim`> but it looks like that new junk now??
[14:24] <xrandr> Dunno.  I use KDE.  I prefer it over Gnome.  Can't explain why,  I just do
[14:24] <Jim`> I want someone more "start bar on bottom and doesn't do flippity stuff" like Windows feel
[14:25] <Jim`> I want some more*
[14:25] <Jim`> start button*
[14:25] <Jim`> I was thinking KDE might be that
[14:25] <xrandr> It does
[14:25] <Jim`> but I also don't wanna use up all the VRAM on a GUI trying to play games
[14:26] <Jim`> an 950 SC with 2 GB VRAM
[14:26]  * Jim` shrugs
[14:26] <xrandr> I have an nvidia geforce gtx 770 which has 2gb ram
[14:26] <xrandr> works just fine
[14:26] <Jim`> This adventure off Win 10 is a good one
[18:04] <valorie> if you are wondering "which ubuntu flavor" why not burn a thumbdrive and try it out?
[18:04] <valorie> I run the very latest kub. on my at-least-6-years-old little Dell
[18:05] <valorie> and on this much beefier laptop
[18:05] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-oryxpro': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.27.11 on Ubuntu 24.04 LTS (Noble Numbat) powered by Linux 6.8.0-31-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700HQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3398-3402/3800 MHz, RAM: 15453/32045 MB, Storage: 909/1060 GB, 311 procs, 139.78h up
[18:07] <valorie> but with any *buntu, you can run any software you want, no matter who creates it - KDE community, Gnome, xfce/lxqt, independent, etc.
[18:08] <valorie> I even have a piece of windows software on this machine: RootsMagic, for genealogy
[18:08] <valorie> using WINE
[18:09] <bprompt> genealogy?   there are some websites for that :P
[18:09] <valorie> loads
[18:10] <valorie> free & pay, about all aspects, in the US and around the world
[23:36] <R13ose> 24.04 - I getting this error when I apt update in console.  "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E6D4736255751E5D".  How do I remove that?
[23:40] <oerheks> remove the repo that has no key
[23:40] <oerheks> output should says what repo
[23:42] <Unit193> "Neon CI" key, OK.
[23:44] <oerheks> neon on top of kubuntu? interesting
[23:50] <R13ose> oerheks: thanks
[23:51] <R13ose> 24.04 - I can't open discover and on the panel says there is an update but I don't see any in console.  How do I get discover to open?