[00:08] <pycurious> my 20.04lts installer wont let me get a better resolution than 800x600 - on a 4090 - any ideas?
[00:10] <oerheks> too old kernel and mesa, try 22.04 with that new hardware
[00:10] <oerheks> you would get HWE automatic
[00:10] <oerheks> !hwe
[00:10] <ubottu> The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[00:11] <pycurious> oerheks: Is there any hope of installing ubuntu 20.04lts perhaps using the cli on this machine?
[00:14] <oerheks> not that i know of
[00:14] <oerheks> that card came out in 2022....
[00:20] <soloslinger> Well, it prolly exists in the realm of possibility.  Linux being linux.  But at that point it prolly wouldn't be recognizable.
[00:30] <pycurious> is there a way to install ubuntu without using the gui interface? perhaps using a tui interface?
[00:38] <oxox> Maybe an install script
[00:40] <oxox> Completely done here.   https://askubuntu.com/questions/122505/how-do-i-create-a-completely-unattended-install-of-ubuntu
[00:41] <oerheks> use the 22.04 iso ..
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[07:24] <pydev> hello
[07:25] <pydev> is there a tool that i can install in my ubuntu server to check ram/cpu USAGE DURING A WEEK ?
[09:09] <evilscreww> where is the app store in this
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> evilscreww: 'this'?
[09:12] <evilscreww> ubuntu
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> wich ubuntu release evilscreww
[09:12] <evilscreww> the very latest
[09:12] <evilscreww> 24.04
[09:12] <lotuspsychje> evilscreww: app center, the orange bag icon
[09:13] <evilscreww> got it. thank you
[09:13] <evilscreww> i tried to install hexchat with flatpak and it didnt work
[09:18] <evilscreww> Tue May  7 08:59:02 2024 [ERROR] The signature of the volume (MSDOS5.0) doesn't match the BitLocker's ones (-FVE-FS- or MSWIN4.1). Abort. Tue May  7 08:59:02 2024 [CRITICAL] Cannot parse volume header. Abort.
[09:19] <evilscreww> https://superuser.com/a/1512524 when following these instructions
[09:43] <evilscreww> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dislocker which one am i supposed to get
[09:46] <evilscreww> nevermind
[10:27] <tripstah> hi! anyone know a tool for ubuntu to move the windows from another display to other? some applications open the windows to another display, minor annoyance because i don't usually have the other display on. trie kooklin' but without much success yet! i liked that caffeine -app yes!
[11:29] <negrogod> hi all
[11:30] <pycurious> good morning
[11:44] <Jim`> Do you still need to install nVidia drivers to play games?
[11:45] <Jim`> Or is all that taken care of already on it's own now?
[11:45] <tarzeau> you can always play nethack even without graphics card. with a vt420 hooked up
[11:45] <Jim`> I got no idea what that is
[11:46] <tarzeau> nethack.org
[11:46] <Jim`> I was talking like TF2, Borderlands 1-3
[11:46] <Jim`> ya know games
[11:46] <tarzeau> no idea, i know nethack, typespeed, bsdgames and wipeout 1..3
[11:46] <ogra_> no doom ?!?!
[11:46] <Jim`> wut
[11:46] <tarzeau> and doom! wolfendstein sauerbraten
[11:47] <ogra_> 😄
[11:47] <Jim`> ogra_: Too many Satanic symbles
[11:47] <zaggynl> yes Jim
[11:47] <zaggynl> they're referring to text based games or games that will use software acceleration
[11:47] <Jim`> Also a Hollywood depiction of Hell
[11:48] <Jim`> note: Hollywood knows Hell cause they are Satanic at the Behemion Club/Grove
[11:48] <Jim`> anyway this is a different channel's topic I imagine
[11:48] <ogra_> definitely
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[11:49] <Jim`> Although BOrderlands is totally LGBTQ+ Demonrat too
[11:50] <Jim`> Anyway enough about Lilth and Samuel vs Adam and Eve, etc.
[12:02] <CosmicDJ> Jim`: yes you still need to install the nvidia driver
[12:02] <Jim`> CosmicDJ: is it in the repos?
[12:03] <CosmicDJ> Jim`: yes, it's even signed for secure boot
[12:04] <Jim`> CosmicDJ: sounds like I might as well back up and make the jump before oct 2025
[12:04] <Jim`> cause I aint buying a new machine
[12:13] <Guest6> guys
[12:13] <Guest6> I installed uwuntu
[12:13] <CosmicDJ> Guest6: congrats
[12:13] <Guest6> damn first impression is really good
[12:14] <Guest6> guys is it bad to just work in a bank in the field informatics
[12:17] <CosmicDJ> Guest6: this is a channel about ubuntu support, not advice about your life choices...
[12:17] <Guest6> does ubuntu support apt
[12:17] <Guest6> still?
[12:17] <CosmicDJ> Guest6: yes
[12:18] <Guest6> is it recommendet to install apps via apt or via store
[12:18] <Guest6> ?
[12:18] <CosmicDJ> Guest6: depends, try the snap first and if it doesn't work for you try the deb version?
[12:19] <Guest6> is app in appstore like snap or is it apt
[12:19] <Guest6> ?
[12:20] <CosmicDJ> Guest6: at least with mantic you could pick whever you want the snap or deb
[12:20] <centHOGG> thx
[12:21] <Guest6> steam has become really buggy on every os
[12:21] <Guest6> lol
[12:22] <centHOGG> memory eater
[12:22] <CosmicDJ> Guest6: how so? every complaint I've seen the last months seems to be snap-related
[12:22] <Guest6> CosmicDJ I tried steam on arch, it was the same like on ubuntu
[12:22] <Jim`> Guest6: SteamClient WebHelper App keeps eating me up
[12:22] <Guest6> and I tried it on windows it was even worse on windows
[12:22] <Guest6> x
[12:22] <Guest6> d
[12:23] <Jim`> I had to tell it not to use the Steam Overlay to get it to stop
[12:23] <CosmicDJ> Guest6: guess your last hope is steam on macOS then ;)
[12:23] <Guest6> CosmicDJ why would macos be better if windows and linux failed already
[12:23] <Jim`> Is there a way to get closer to the old Gnome look than whatever this new Ubuntu look is?
[12:23] <Jim`> Unity I guess?
[12:24] <Guest6> steam should not have been building on an arch system
[12:24] <Guest6> xD
[12:24] <Jim`> I guess I'll have to install an off spring of Ubuntu like Kubuntu or Lubuntu?
[12:24] <Guest6> no wonder their games and client are buggy as hell
[12:24] <Jim`> I don't like this "in the middle of the screen" look
[12:25] <centHOGG> heh
[12:25] <centHOGG> <xubuntu
[12:25] <Jim`> centHOGG: I just used Ubuntu Live and it makes me want to rip the screen apart and shoot it with .00 buckshot or atleast .000 out of a .410
[12:26] <centHOGG> hehe... i think there is a flavor of ubuntu unity now... i saw a video on youtube yesterday touting it
[12:26] <centHOGG> hold on i'll fetch
[12:26] <Guest6> I use ubuntu btw
[12:26] <Jim`> I just want the old Gnome look
[12:26] <Jim`> or closer to windows
[12:27] <Jim`> not this bouncy in the middle of the screen mumbo jumbo
[12:27] <centHOGG> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-tcH_ol29g
[12:27] <Guest6> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:28] <manwhowouldbekin> Hi all! I have upgrade to Ubuntu 24 from 23.10 recently and am wondering what is the quickest way to re-enable the third-party PPAs which were disabled during the upgrade?
[12:29] <Jim`> centHOGG: I'll try LXDE I guess
[12:30] <centHOGG> oh no they gotta unity flavor... i think its about 4 or 5 in... before reaching xubuntu bit :p
[12:30] <centHOGG> LXDE = laptops
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[13:34] <Jim`> How long does Ubuntu Jammy have ?
[13:35] <Jim`> Looks like Apr 2027
[13:47] <Maik> Jim`: indeed, 2027. However that is only for the main Ubuntu LTS release. All the other LTS flavors have only 3 years of support.
[13:47] <Jim`> Maik: I was venturing off in to Linux Mint land
[13:48] <Jim`> Trying to find something that doesn't make me want to shoot the screen
[13:48] <Maik> yeah well, we do not support mint here
[13:48] <Jim`> But also something where I wont be installing another OS in 5 days
[13:49] <Jim`> Maik: Yeah.  I think I'm gonna have to go with XFCE or KDE or something to get closer to Windows feel
[13:49] <Jim`> rather than "bouncy middle GUI thing" of Ubuntu now
[13:50] <Jim`> I think it'd make more sense to stick with Kubuntu then since it's already upgraded
[13:50] <Jim`> vs the mint
[14:02] <kuiperan`> I need to use docker buildx, but my docker appears to not have the buildx feature enabled. I installed docker using apt. The docker-buildx-plugin (or docker-buildx) packages are not in my apt repository. I'm using debian 12 (sorry, not ubuntu, but can I get help?)
[14:03] <kuiperan`> I'll see if downloading buildx from github and moving it to ~/.docker/cli-plugins works
[14:04] <kuiperan`> that didn't work. 'buildx' is not a docker command
[14:15] <kuiperan`> where does apt-key add add my asc file?
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[14:20] <kuiperan`> Nevermind, I folllowed these instructions for my problem, and solved it https://docs.docker.com/engine/install/debian/#install-using-the-repository
[15:32] <Guest92> I can not start overwatch 2
[15:32] <Guest92> in ubuntu too
[15:32] <Guest92> wtf
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> !details | Guest92
[15:35] <ubottu> Guest92: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.
[15:35] <Guest92> well overwatch2 a steamgame doesnt start
[15:35] <Guest92> maybe I have to reboot
[15:36] <Guest92> ?
[15:36] <Guest92> I will be right back
[15:36] <Guest92> I try reboot
[15:39] <Guest79> hmm still not launching the game
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> Guest79: feel free to share your error logs in a !paste
[15:40] <Guest79> how to find steam error log?
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> Guest79: you could launch 'steam' from a terminal, and/or keep a journalctl -f on the background too
[15:42] <Guest79> launching steam with sudo?
[15:43] <Guest79> or how to see whats going on inside steam
[15:43] <Guest79> maybe trying to launch the game in terminal?
[15:44] <Guest79> I will just try lutris instead
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> Guest79: not sudo no, just type steam to launch
[15:45] <Guest79> ye but this give only a single output
[15:45] <Guest79> it is not interactive
[15:47] <sixwheeledbeast> is steam play enabled, it's windows only game so will need steam play stuff.
[15:47] <Guest79> yes
[15:48] <Guest79> Also tried all the proton versions
[15:53] <sixwheeledbeast> I'd generally try Proton Experimental and force steam play in compatibility if it's "Playable" on steam deck it usually works.
[15:56] <Guest79> sixwheeledbeast I already  tried it
[15:56] <Guest79> but not working on arch or ubuntu
[15:56] <Guest79> or debian
[15:56] <Guest79> I try now lutris
[15:56] <Guest79> since steam is borked
[15:57] <sixwheeledbeast> You can try it but I doubt it will work then.
[15:59] <Guest79> only because steam is retarded and using arch to build stuff?
[16:00] <Guest79> I doubt battle.net is as stupid as steam
[16:00] <CosmicDJ> Guest79: steams linux runtime is still based on ubuntu12 IIRC
[16:01] <ruser> hello, is there any reason I shouldn't use a jupyter meta package in ubuntu to install jupyter lab/notebooks?
[16:02] <Guest79> CosmicDJ why are they using then arch linux
[16:03] <Guest79> I mean they have no clue what they use for building their software
[16:03] <Guest79> could be trojan horses
[16:04] <CosmicDJ> Guest79: https://www.pcgamer.com/this-is-why-valve-is-switching-from-debian-to-arch-for-steam-decks-linux-os/
[16:04] <Guest79> well, idc about what steam is doing
[16:04] <CosmicDJ> are you mixing up SteamOS and Steam?
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[16:04] <ubottu> Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!
[16:04] <Guest79> because they became insanely bad since  they are on arch based distro
[16:07] <pycurious> is anyone using incus here? I'm trying to add a gpu and then start a vm - and it hangs on my ubuntu 24.04LTS = host, 20.04LTS guest.
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> pycurious: seems like incus is rejected, just not sure why apt-cache still shows it, bug #2049416
[16:13] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2049416 in incus (Ubuntu) "Please remove incus from Ubuntu" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2049416
[16:24] <Guest79> guys how can I  search in whole system for
[16:25] <Guest79> a name
[16:26] <CosmicDJ> Guest79: file name or name inside (text-)files?
[16:26] <sixwheeledbeast> a file?
[16:26] <Guest79> if I uninstalled the steam from appstore would the games be uninstalled too?
[16:27] <Guest79> where does steam typically save gamesa
[16:27] <CosmicDJ> Guest79: snap or deb version of steam?
[16:27] <Guest79> from app center
[16:28] <pycurious> I've a dell desktop with 4090 in it. Ubuntu 24.04LTS installed without issues. If I try 22.04LTS or 20.04LTS - they dont detect the disk (nvme) - is there a way to fix that?
[16:30] <Guest79> ubuntu is complicated from the view as a developer but it works wonderful for someone who has no clue about operating systems
[16:30] <Guest79> ubuntu is a magic puff binary distro like windows :D
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[17:02] <aurolac> yay gnome-boxes works again
[17:03] <webchat2> Why does WhatsApp web keep getting SIGKILL error?
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> webchat2: if you use one of the snap whatsapp apps, please find the maintainer with: snap info snapname-here
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> webchat2: the support page of snaps will mostly show under contact:...
[17:11] <webchat2> I am using official WhatsApp web (https://web.whatsapp.com/)
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[17:15] <webchat2> wait, its SIGILL not SIGKILL
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[17:23] <pycurious> @lotuspsychje any chance you've used incus. It's hanging for me on a incus start vm. Could use some help in fixing that.
[17:23] <tarzeau>  
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[17:32] <ruser> I thought 24.04 was out, but  do-release-update doesn't seem to want to do it, what gives?
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> ruser: upgrade path will be open, when all bugs are sorted around upgrading
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> !24.04 | ruser
[17:34] <ubottu> ruser: Ubuntu 24.04 (Noble Numbat) is the 40th release of Ubuntu and the current !LTS release - Download at https://ubuntu.com/download :: Release notes at https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble-numbat-release-notes :: Further schedule at https://ubottu.com/y/nn
[17:36] <ruser> 27 April 25 Final Release. Help me understand, should the 24.04 be available? or does one need to wait for 24.04.01?
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> ruser: 22.04 to 24.04.1 upgrade will be available in august
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> ruser: 23.10 to 24.04 will be available when upgrade bugs are solved
[17:38] <ruser> So... behind scheudle?
[17:38] <ruser> The final release is the finished product which is distributed with an official Ubuntu release number.
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> ruser: 24.04 is out, you can already clean install, there is no schedule when upgrade bugs get solved
[17:40] <ruser> ah, so what you appear to be saying, if i understand correctly, there is  no clean upgrade path available at the moment due to some bugs, and it's not clear when they will be fixed. Am i correct in my undestanding?
[17:41] <lotuspsychje> correct ruser
[17:43] <devslash> ruser as a general rule, upgrading Ubuntu as soon as a new release comes out is pretty risky. I've had many issues with Ubuntu not starting up after an upgrade
[17:43] <ruser> thank you  lotuspsychje.  is there a good place to view the status of the upgrade path bugs and what's holding things back.
[17:43] <ruser> I appreciate the help.
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> ruser: we do have an #ubuntu-bugs-announce channel where you can follow recent filed bugs
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> ruser: see also the 24.04 releasenotes; https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-24-04-lts-noble-numbat-release-notes/39890
[17:45] <webchat2> Good explanation
[17:46] <ruser> lotuspsychje: ah, i should have looked at that first, you did direct me to it.  my bad. thank you.
[17:48] <ruser> thank you for your help
[17:49] <ducasse> ruser: normally, the official upgrade path to a new lts opens shortly after the first point release
[17:50] <ducasse> ruser: this is to make sure it is sufficiently tested before lts users go ahead and run it
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[18:22] <webchat2> Is docker desktop opening on 24.04?
[18:22] <webchat2> Or it's just mine?
[18:26] <bprompt> webchat2: dunno, I've never ran it =)
[18:27] <webchat2> Doesn't open on my end
[18:39] <bprompt> webchat2: hmmm dunno, something to check for is, is it meant to run on Wayland?  as opposed to X11, is there a snap version? maybe the snap version works and the debian package is having issues
[18:40] <bprompt> webchat2: you can always try to run it from a terminal command, that usually shows more verbose information of what may be happening
[18:43] <webchat2> On terminal it works fine, I don't think there is snap version for docker desktop
[18:44] <bprompt> webchat2: then maybe make a new desktop shortcut with the terminal command :)
[19:25] <belgianguy> Hi, livepatch seems to work really great, but is there an option for it not to give a popup each time it does that? And then when I click OK the settings dialog opens? I trust it to do the right thing, it's not that I have much kernel knowledge anyway :)
[19:30] <bprompt> belgianguy: hmm I don't have it, however, checked its settings yet?
[19:32] <leftyfb> belgianguy: do you really need to go long periods of time not rebooting your workstation?
[19:35] <belgianguy> @bprompt, yeah, no settings to turn it off
[19:36] <belgianguy> @leftyfb, it runs a server, and I thought the whole idea of live patching was that it would not get in the way :) it does claim quite some attention now
[19:37] <belgianguy> I'm perfectly happy with the patching, but the popup and settings each time feels like a bit much?
[19:37] <leftyfb> it's mainly meant for servers where rebooting isn't done very often. It works on the desktop, but with a desktop environment you have notifications which is takes advantage of
[19:39] <belgianguy> @leftyfb, it's okay, I'll keep on looking, if it gets to me, I can always turn it off :)
[19:40] <leftyfb> belgianguy: what kind of server is your desktop running on it?
[19:41] <bprompt> belgianguy: from -> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1142910/how-can-i-remove-live-patch-notification <-    notice the "gsettings set com.ubuntu.update-notifier show-livepatch-status-icon false", mind you I think you can use the gsettings GUI to navigate to it, or maybe even "dconf" GUI to it
[19:41] <leftyfb> I would just use the command given
[19:52] <arraybolt3> Previously (when using Ubuntu 22.04) it was possible for me to ping an external IP address from within a QEMU VM even when using user-mode networking. As I understood it, this was intentionally designed to work in QEMU.
[19:52] <arraybolt3> Recently I upgraded to Ubuntu 24.04 (well, clean installed but whatever) and now my QEMU VMs are unable to ping any external hosts (like google.com). apt still works fine and Internet otherwise functions properly within the VMs.
[19:52] <arraybolt3> Is there some special button you have to press in QEMU to get ping to work again now?
[19:53] <ravage> it sounds like a firewall thing?
[19:54] <ravage> i only use it in bridge mode
[19:54] <arraybolt3> ufw is inactive right now
[19:54] <arraybolt3> I'm using the SLiRP backend, which says it doesn't work with ping, but I know it used to, and there's a host-end setup you can do to make it work so I guess Ubuntu maybe used to come with this preconfigured? https://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Networking
[19:56] <younder> I see ubuntu 24.04 has no support for gtk2
[19:57] <arraybolt3> younder: are you sure? Hexchat is still in the repos of 24.04
[19:57] <arraybolt3> and it uses GTK2
[19:57] <younder> Used a script at https://2h3ph3rd.medium.com/how-to-install-libgconf-2-4-on-ubuntu-23-10-fec6bda8d5f5
[19:59] <ravage> i dont think anyone here will or should advice you on installing random outdated packages
[19:59] <younder> I was required by a Dyalog APL GUI called RIDE
[20:00] <younder> They are not random and shouldn't conflict with the existing GTK4
[20:30] <se> The new look
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[21:08] <nshirelaptop> is it difficult to move the swapfile to another drive?
[21:09] <leftyfb> nshirelaptop: how much physical memory do you have in your machine?
[21:09] <nshirelaptop> 32gb
[21:09] <nshirelaptop> my vms all run off a hdd with minimal ram allocated so I'd like to move their swapfiles to my nvme ssd
[21:10] <nshirelaptop> the hypervisor is hyper-v so I can expose another virtual disk to them
[21:12] <nshirelaptop> seems easy enough https://tecadmin.net/move-swapfile-to-a-different-disk/
[21:14] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How_do_I_add_or_modify_a_swap_partition.3F
[21:33] <JanC> depends on how you create the swap file(s) also...
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