| lotuspsychje | good morning | 03:08 |
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| meustation | yo, Bashing-om, here I am | 05:03 |
| lotuspsychje | you can start a topic of discussions here meustation | 05:04 |
| lotuspsychje | anyone awake might join your conversation | 05:04 |
| Bashing-om | meustation: I wandered back :D | 05:09 |
| meustation | Bashing-om, no prob | 05:16 |
| meustation | lotuspsychje, sorry if I went against channel policy in any way, been brought here by Bashing-om in order not to flood the main channel | 05:16 |
| lotuspsychje | dont worry, there's often a thin red line but we tend you divide support with discussions with this channel | 05:18 |
| meustation | Bashing-om, as I was sayin', would like to know if this dropping of Xorg starts from debian or if it is one of the things in which ubuntu differs from the mothering distro | 05:18 |
| lotuspsychje | more other linux distros's seem to drop xorg now meustation | 05:18 |
| lotuspsychje | i think fedora did | 05:19 |
| Bashing-om | meustation: Well - all distros are in prgress of adopting Wayland. | 05:19 |
| meustation | fedora is what used to be red hat, right? | 05:19 |
| lotuspsychje | correct | 05:19 |
| meustation | never had the pleasure of using it | 05:20 |
| lotuspsychje | redhat was my first ever distro experience | 05:21 |
| meustation | and I think I only ever modified xorg.conf 2 or 3 times | 05:21 |
| lotuspsychje | after messing around some others, i came to stick to ubuntu till now | 05:21 |
| * meustation started with mandrake thanks to a friend that made the dual boot install, when Ubuntu was not yet around or not mainstream | 05:22 | |
| meustation | I still remember how cool it was that Ubuntu was something even a n00b like myself could install on his own | 05:23 |
| meustation | lotuspsychje, you planning to stick to ubuntu in the future? | 05:23 |
| Bashing-om | I got introduced to Kubuntu - messed about with all the falvors --- xfce suits for what I do :P | 05:24 |
| lotuspsychje | if it keeps existing yeah | 05:24 |
| * meustation is used to ubuntu, but has not found the perfect setup yet | 05:24 | |
| lotuspsychje | what are you looking for to make better meustation ? | 05:25 |
| meustation | I'm considering getting a bit more confidence with debian, just in case the guy bankrolling ubuntu should choose to stop | 05:25 |
| lotuspsychje | if you are used to ubuntu, debian wont be such a shock | 05:26 |
| meustation | lotuspsychje, I loved the pre-unity ubuntu, with compiz playing the role of eyeliner on a friday night | 05:26 |
| lotuspsychje | unity still exist meustation | 05:26 |
| lotuspsychje | !flavours | 05:26 |
| ubottu | Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours | 05:26 |
| meustation | though my favourite desktop environment is fluxbox | 05:26 |
| meustation | as I said, pre-unity; pure gnome ubuntu | 05:26 |
| Bashing-om | !minimal | 05:27 |
| ubottu | The Minimal CD image (mini.iso) was available for Ubuntu releases up to 18.04 LTS. The default Ubuntu Server installer covers all of its installation scenarios. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 05:27 |
| meustation | had a debian since 2014, a simple server install with just fluxbox added for moments of peak lazyness | 05:28 |
| meustation | got left out of the update loop during the pandemic epoch, then managed to fuck it up trying to upgrade without having to reinstall | 05:29 |
| meustation | plan atm is to do a fresh install of debian-edu on that machine | 05:29 |
| lotuspsychje | whatever does the trick | 05:29 |
| test925 | it feels a bit early to me for a distro to totally drop xorg. My experience with it tells me it's still buggy. | 05:32 |
| test925 | that's in ubuntu, though. maybe it's better elsewhere. | 05:32 |
| lotuspsychje | xorg wont vanish soon neither | 05:34 |
| lotuspsychje | soo many distros still rely on it | 05:34 |
| lotuspsychje | but as Bashing-om is also true, more wayland efforts are upon us | 05:35 |
| meustation | what is the main difference between wayland and xorg, seen from the side of those who know how to write code? | 05:36 |
| * meustation has only a basic understanding of an operating system's architecture | 05:40 | |
| meustation | the debian server install was me trying to evolve from the ubuntu server install, which allowed me to learn to work with ssh+screen, which is something I am planning to go back to | 05:42 |
| === EriC^^_ is now known as EriC^^ | ||
| meustation | I used to think using usb flash drives as a base on which to work from both windows and linux was something that now works at a stable level. boy was I wrong! | 22:25 |
| meustation | am of course inclined to blame windows for the worsening of results | 22:26 |
| daftykins | persistent flash drives for an installation + data storage? heeeell no | 22:35 |
| meustation | nope, not for an installation | 23:59 |
| meustation | just as one would use a floppy, to save data you work on | 23:59 |
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