[00:00] <JoshuaX> awilkins: I installed Ubuntu 24.04 server using Raspberry Pi imager on Windows 10. It seems to me, like there is no way to shrink online ext4 root partition. So in my situation, I should prevent disk & file system expansion on first boot.. correct?
[00:01] <JoshuaX> $ df -h
[00:01] <JoshuaX> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[00:01] <JoshuaX> tmpfs           795M  3.4M  791M   1% /run
[00:01] <JoshuaX> tmpfs           3.9G     0  3.9G   0% /dev/shm
[00:01] <JoshuaX> tmpfs           5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[00:01] <JoshuaX> tmpfs           1.0M     0  1.0M   0% /var/snap/lxd/common/ns
[00:10] <JoshuaX> resize2fs On-line shrinking not supported - https://dpaste.com/FCQ4EXTT5
[00:13] <ksschult> Hello Everyone!
[00:15] <whitepaperkat> hi
[02:09] <luna_3> I would just linke to mention again that chrome overloads and QUITS on my then great but now meager 8G system. now 22.04 This behavior started with 20.0r (but then it locked up the sustem so 22.04 chrome-quits is better.)
[02:10] <luna_3> This is the tech support only channel while #ubuntu-offtopic is the social "hello" channel.
[02:10] <luna_3> oh that was 2 hours ago.
[03:48] <AccelShark> Hi again, "linux-tools" refuses to be built, I might be doing the wrong command but I can't find the necessary fix. I need to build a custom kernel to fix a bug on another computer of mine until a patch is in Ubuntu's kernel. I give command "fakeroot debian/rules do_extras_package=true do_tools=true binary" inside the folder from issuing "apt source linux".
[03:49] <AccelShark> something like apt source linux
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> AccelShark: can you use the !mainline kernels to temp test your bug?
[03:51] <AccelShark> lotuspsychje: 6.8.2 vanilla kernel fixed it though.
[03:51] <AccelShark> it just didn't get merged on time
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> !mainline
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> you dont need to build yourself this way
[03:53] <AccelShark> I can try that and hopefully we get a higher minor version that integrates the fix from 6.8.2. I just install the latest v6.8 mainline then?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> AccelShark: you can file a bug on your kernel version that affects, then do a !mainline kernel test version of your choice yeah
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> and add a comment to your bug if it fixes it
[04:02] <AccelShark> lotuspsychje: This is the upstream bug: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218171 This is the Ubuntu entry of it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/2056686 I think it'll be merged in soon. I can use mainline 6.8 for now, I'm on 24.04 which uses 6.8 anyway. I can mark myself as affected by it on Ubuntu bug tracker if that's okay.
[04:02] -ubottu:#ubuntu- bugzilla.kernel.org bug 218171 in Power Management "amd-pstate not loading on zen2 threadripper 3960x (trx40" [Normal, Resolved: Answered]
[04:02] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2056686 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wishlist - Backport AMD pstate support for Threadripper 3000 series CPUs" [Undecided, New]
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> is that your ubuntu bug AccelShark ?
[04:03] <AccelShark> it isn't, but I can use mainline
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> ok
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> so its both reported upstream + ubuntu, you're in good hands now AccelShark
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> mainline kernels are only for testing purposes, so dont use too long for daily use ok AccelShark
[04:05] <AccelShark> Marked myself as being affected by it, think I'll get e-mailed when the patch is in :)
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> great AccelShark tnx for confirming that bug!
[04:37] <AccelShark> I can confirm amd-pstate works...for now :) guess I'll head off
[04:54] <newmister> people, why is ubuntu 24.04 LTS soooo buggy?
[05:00] <newmister> you can't ctrl+i in the desktop to find file properties, you can't rename files in the desktop, the file copy progress bar in nautilus keeps jumping around the window, the copy progress bar in the dock doesn't move, and generally the OS keeps using sooo much CPU it heats it up and turns on the fans all the time. and what is with 6GB installation file, wtf?     and this is just me using it for ONE
[05:00] <newmister> day
[05:54] <luna_3> what is the command to show all the keyboard shortcuts
[05:54] <luna_3> how do I do Showdesktop?
[05:56] <luna_3> activities and google search dont help]\
[05:56] <NickH> What DE are you using?
[05:59] <NickH> If gnome, maybe: gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings
[06:00] <NickH> As for "Showdesktop", I don't know what that means
[06:04] <luna_3> lethanks. FYI the cheap one says linux. score.
[06:05] <luna_3> NiKaN, I found it. show desktop is a toggle. You sue super+d
[06:06] <luna_3> USE super+d alll the windows vanish and you cansee your desktop. Toggle means hit it again and all the windows come back.
[06:49] <mostafa> hello can some one help me on developing ubuntu app
[06:49] <mostafa> what is best ways
[06:56] <CosmicDJ> mostafa: pick a toolkit (gtk or qt) and then just start?!
[07:05] <mostafa> CosmicDJ: Thanks.
[08:23] <genkgo> Is there any specific channel I need to visit to ask question about MicroOVN and/or Ubuntu FAN, or can I that question here?
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> genkgo: all packages related to ubuntu and its flavours can fit here
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> there is also the #ubuntu-server channel if you like genkgo
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> but maybe ask your issue here, first volunteer can try to help or forward you to the proper channel
[08:29] <genkgo> thanks lotuspsychje, I think the server channel might be more appropriate
[08:32] <nikolam> Hi, I have broken packages on Xubuntu 22.04 after updating this morning:  linux-image-5.15.0-102-generic : Depends: linux-modules-5.15.0-102-generic but it is not going to be installed. Is it me and the rest of the world or.. (I have /home on OpenZFS)
[08:32] <nikolam> I booted on 5.15.0-105-generic #115-Ubuntu
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: did you add external ppa's of any kind to your system?
[08:33] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, of course, let me check
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> remove your external ppa's to the vanilla ubuntu repos, then try again
[08:38] <nikolam> apt --fix-broken install didn't help . I also have btrfs snapshots on every package action so I can go back to some previous state
[08:39] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, no, removin PPAs didn't help. Plus I don't have Radeon now and it is coming from PAP
[08:39] <nikolam> PPA
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: dependency issues arise when apt packages conflict with ppa pages often
[08:39] <nikolam> often. Not till this morning. I see.
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> try !ppapurge to correctly remove the ppa packages
[08:41] <nikolam> lotuspsychje, I depend on many of them, like Skype, Anydesk, Radeon, but since I have BTRFS snapshot form few days ago, I will thy what you are surresting.
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> ok
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: but lets assume one of your ppa's changed, reverting to older state might give the same issue conflicting with apt
[08:42] <lotuspsychje> nikolam: feel free to share the whole apt log with the volunteers
[08:42] <nikolam> I can get working system and can experiment again, it is of huge help of having those system snapshots
[08:44] <nikolam> Hm, why removing firefox installed from PPA, would require installing linux-image-unsigned ... Huh, let me unisntall all from PPA and get back, after I figure which PPA is maybe making an issue
[08:50] <nikolam> Ok, I don't have ppa-purge installed, can't install it because of broken package and seems like also packages from PPAs won't uninstall because of broken package
[08:50] <nikolam> I will go to yesterday's state from BTRFS and report back how update went without PPAs
[09:31] <Guest65> Hi
[09:32] <Guest65> I have recently purchased 2 x 1tb harddrives, I would like to run ubuntu in a mirror on top of zfs, what is the best way to do this ?
[09:43] <atreo> the latest ubuntu 24.04 might be difficult, it is too heavy on the RAM, it will be super slow to run from am HDD, maybe an SSD would be better
[09:45] <Guest65> I should have mentioned I do have 2 ssds
[09:56] <sushico> im at work how can i break ubuntu system without anyone finding out i did it
[09:56] <sushico> no logs no anything
[10:20] <ice9> these packages have been kept back for about 2 weeks now if not longer, is there anything wrong? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/tUO9Vugk
[10:38] <benishor> hello, I am running 24.04 gnome and I'm trying to set the theme of the kde apps to match the one on gnome but I don't seem to find a way to do that
[10:38] <benishor> any help please?
[11:03] <ice9> how to install KDE Plasma 6 on Ubuntu 24.04?
[11:14] <nikolam> It is interesting, after I removed all PPA repos and uninstalled all packages from all PPAs.. I don't have any updates in apt upgrade..
[11:16] <nikolam> maybe because I also deselected jammy updates
[11:44] <atreo> ubuntu 24.04 should have been developed better, too many bugs. you can't ctrl+i in the desktop to find file properties, you can't rename files in the desktop, the file copy progress bar in nautilus keeps jumping around the window, the copy progress bar in the dock doesn't move, and generally the OS keeps using sooo much CPU it heats it up and turns on the fans all the time. and what is with 6GB
[11:44] <atreo> installation file, wtf?     and this is just me using it for ONE day
[11:51] <tarzeau> atreo: tried far2l?
[11:51] <atreo> tarzeau: what is that?
[11:52] <tarzeau> atreo: another file manager
[11:52] <atreo> tarzeau: interesting, how can i replace the deffective nautilus with far2l?
[11:53] <tarzeau> atreo: you can't, you just don't start Files(nautilus) but a terminal, then run far2l :)
[11:54] <nikolam> atreo, you can always run prerelease distro on separate machine and catch bugs before they end up in the release.
[11:55] <atreo> nikolam: i am not that invested into developing ubuntu, i just use it for convinience, but now its become too buggy, and the bugs don't get fixed from LTS to LTS.
[11:55] <nikolam> atreo, also you can use multiple desktop environments. For example I am on Xfce (xubuntu-desktop) form 2006 and doing fine.
[11:55] <atreo> nikolam: for me the desktop is the most important part of a distro for me, since i don't care much about the underlying engine
[11:56] <nikolam> atreo, pardon, xubuntu-core  ect packages. And than you choose DE you like before you log in
[11:57] <atreo> but ubuntu's unity seems to be broken, it is the only thing keeping in ubuntu
[11:57] <nikolam> atreo, I don't use GNOME since 3.0 went up. MATE DE is continuation of GNOME 2.0  Xfce is lighter and configurable.
[11:58] <nikolam> Ah yes, also who cares for Unity :P
[11:59] <nikolam> Xfce is stable and working fine. Try Xubuntu instead. Also I reccoment installing aptitude for packages. I also use Flatpak, beside snap if I must.
[11:59] <nikolam> You can also try KDE the same way, by adding packages.
[12:03] <ogra_> atreo, CTRL+I has been long (a few years ago) dropped by GNOME upstream, not an Ubuntu thing at all ... most key combos use "SUPER+<letter>" instead of CTRL since GNOME decided for that switch
[12:04] <atreo> ogra_: not true, ctrl+i works from a nautilus window but not from the desktop, so it still works, but buggy. also if you manually try to rename a file, right mouse click > rename this box appears then disapears by itself
[12:07] <ogra_> atreo, ah, that might also be because GNOME decided that ther shouldnt be a desktop anymore ... Ubuntu could only add parts of it back due to lack of backing from upstream
[12:07] <ogra_> (i.e. there is no API anymore you could send the ctrl+i to)
[12:09] <ogra_> if you try plain GNOME on somerhing like fedora you will find there is no way to store icons on the desktop or interact with it anymore ... it is just a wallpaper now
[12:09] <nikolam> ogra_, what is Gnome now? Not desktop but..
[12:51] <nikolam> I am on 5.15.0-105-generic #115-Ubuntu  22.04 and after removing all PPA packages and all PPA , and getting back Ubuntu DEB repos, I still have broken package after upgrade: sudo apt --fix-broken install says, dpkg: error processing package linux-image-5.15.0-102-generic (--remove):
[12:51] <nikolam>  installed linux-image-5.15.0-102-generic package post-removal script subprocess returned error exit status 1
[12:58] <nikolam> So that kernel package can not be removed or something
[12:59] <ioria> nikolam, sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-5.15.0-102* /tmp ; sudo apt install --reinstall linux-image-5.15.0-102-generic
[13:01] <nikolam> ioria, Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:01] <nikolam>  linux-image-5.15.0-106-generic  linux-image-5.15.0-102-generic E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:02] <ioria> nikolam, dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:07] <nikolam> ioria, https://termbin.com/dg4g
[13:08] <ioria> nikolam, sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-5.15.0-106* /tmp
[13:08] <nikolam> ioria, hm, I am also booting not form EFI but from legacy boot, on Nvme, dd'ed old install before on new M.2 SSD , if that matters.
[13:09] <ioria> nikolam, after mv, 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[13:11] <nikolam> ioria, done. and after that apt update && apt upgrade -y gives: Errors were encountered while processing:  linux-image-5.15.0-102-generic E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:11] <ioria> nikolam, again   'dpkg -l | grep linux-image | nc termbin.com 9999'
[13:11] <nikolam> Maybe I need to reboot?
[13:11] <ioria> nope
[13:12] <nikolam> ioria, https://termbin.com/qzhj
[13:12] <ioria> nikolam, sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-5.15.0-102* /tmp
[13:13] <ioria> nikolam, 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[13:13] <nikolam> done and no message
[13:13] <ioria> nikolam, sudo apt update
[13:15] <nikolam> 4 upgrade able :  sudo apt list --upgradable | nc termbin.com 9999  , https://termbin.com/ioha
[13:16] <nikolam> I previously also had radeon drivers installed, before uninstall and PPA removal..
[13:17] <Apachez> any hints on how to resolve this which pops up all the time in the journalctl?   "indicator-cpufr[2645]: gtk_widget_get_scale_factor: assertion 'GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed"   ?
[13:17] <nikolam> software updater wants me to restart..
[13:17] <ioria> nikolam, it's ok, you maybe need to purge all those kernel's leftovers
[13:22] <nikolam> I fully removed 87 and 102 and /lib/modules/5.15.0-102-generic (said it were not empty and not removed) and will see after reboot. And hopefully reinstall neeed packages
[13:22] <NickCater> Hi, its me again.. I have reimage Ubuntu 24.04 server on Raspberry Pi 5 SSD disk. 250G SSD drive, and want to allocate only 50G to the system.. and leave the rest to unallocated. How to achieve this?
[13:22] <waveform> NickCater, which image -- the desktop or the server image?
[13:23] <NickCater> waveform: server image
[13:23] <waveform> (I ask because each uses a different method of expanding the root partition on first boot)
[13:23] <waveform> okay -- IIRC there's a flag in cloud-init that can be used to tell it "don't expand on first boot"; let me just dig it up...
[13:24] <waveform> (I really oughtta put that in the examples on the boot partition as you're not the first to ask this!)
[13:24] <ravage> You could also just expand the partition manually to the size you like and add another blank one 
[13:25] <ravage> On Ubuntu the disks tool can do that 
[13:25] <waveform> sure, but if you want to boot the thing and fiddle with the disk from the booted image you want to make sure it doesn't grab all the space first
[13:25] <waveform> ahh, here we go: https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/reference/modules.html#growpart
[13:26] <NickCater> ravage: Will the system automatically expand to an unallocated partition after first boot?
[13:26] <waveform> so, flash the image to your SSD, then before booting it for the first time, edit "user-data" on the boot partition (it's FAT so you can do that from any old OS) and add "growpart: off". That *should* leave the root partition unresized after first boot
[13:27] <waveform> no, first boot and root partition only IIRC (I'll just check the utility though)
[13:27] <ravage> You can also do that in disks or from the booted system with one command
[13:27] <ravage> ext4 can be expanded live 
[13:27] <waveform> sure, but if the ext4 partition has already been expanded to the full disk (which it will by default) then you can't *shrink* it live
[13:27] <NickCater> but cant shrink on-line?
[13:28] <ravage> I don't see the problem really 
[13:28] <ravage> You do that before your first boot
[13:28] <ravage> The initial partition size is small right? 
[13:29] <waveform> or you first boot without the auto-expansion and then do your own expansion afterwards. Consider if you're flashing the drive from, say, windows. In that case you're not going to be able to do anything with the ext4 partition (or whatever else you want on there)
[13:29] <ravage> Then boot gparted live 
[13:29] <NickCater> correct 512MB system-boot, 2.85GB primary partition and 229.53GB unallocated (default)
[13:29] <ravage> You can even do that in a VM
[13:30] <ravage> If the SD card is connected via USB
[13:30] <waveform> at this point, is this really less complicated than just editing a text file and booting anyway?
[13:30] <ravage> I never said it is more or less complicated 
[13:31] <ravage> I would just prefer to setup everything the way I want it and then boot the system
[13:34] <waveform> there is something to be said for that approach (and I've used it myself in cases where I've wanted something like LVM or LUKS around the root file-system), but there's also something to be said for using the tools (and more specifically, versions of those tools) that you'll be using to maintain the system itself (looks sideways at LUKS...)
[13:36] <nikolam> I think my problem is that it won't boot to 5.15.0-106 , It reboots, then reboots again and I end up in 5.15.0-105-generic #115-Ubuntu
[13:38] <youtubefan01> hello?
[13:39] <NickCater> Ya, still have ubuntu desktop vm in windows machine.. somehow mouse cursor missing after the update
[13:39] <youtubefan01> I just downloaded lubuntu yesterday and am still exploring. What is this?
[13:39] <leftyfb> !support | youtubefan01
[13:42] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:43] <youtubefan01> hello
[13:51] <hino> any suggestion on rootkit scanners worth their salt
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> !info rkhunter | hino
[13:51] <hino> =)
[13:52] <hino> can it be run from a linux pc cli to scan an android or sideloaded with adb or other
[13:53] <hino> or any tool fit for that purpose on the android phone i also have but also works well with ubuntu
[13:57] <pagios> hi all, i have a very annoying issue, on gnome all windows are auto expanded and they snap, it wasnt the case seems i did something weird, i cant resize its always full screen and can resize and it looks like i3 now behavior any idea?
[13:59] <hino> sounds like time to fresh install man
[14:00] <hino> or use a backup you made to go back to the future
[14:00] <pagios> ???
[14:02] <hino> go the fresh install and export your cool keep stuff before hand to and external drive
[14:03] <hino> what happens when you google how to purge or uninstall snaps and delete all traces or config files
[14:04] <hino> systemctrl stop "service" i think that will stop systemd daemons and lotuspsychje is very informed ask him how to fix ur dramma
[14:04] <lotuspsychje> please dont highlight users unwanted
[14:05] <hino> sorry
[14:05] <pagios> how can i disable snapping windows in gnome
[14:05] <pagios> how can i disable snapping windows in gnome
[14:06] <leftyfb> pagios: which release of ubuntu are you running?
[14:06] <pagios> 22
[14:06] <leftyfb> pagios: 22.04 or 22.10?
[14:06] <pagios> 22.10
[14:07] <leftyfb> pagios: ok, 22.10 is end of life and unsupported. Please either downgrade to 22.04(fresh install) or install 24.04
[14:07] <pagios> you are cute
[14:07] <leftyfb> pagios: lets not
[14:10] <atreo> people i am unable to install CloudCompare in Ubuntu 24.04    its a 3D rendering software    "sudo apt install cloudcompare"   how can i fix this issue, when i run it it gives me a segmentation fault   (this program works in 22.04)
[14:10] <leftyfb> pagios: to answer your question, on supported releases of ununtu(which you are not running), you can run: gsettings set org.gnome.mutter edge-tiling false
[14:11] <atreo> further more   also meshlab    another 3D rendering software does not get installe correctly "sudo apt install meshlab"
[14:11] <pagios> not workign tried it
[14:11] <leftyfb> pagios: try it on a supported release of ubuntu
[14:12] <atreo> it seem ubuntu 24.04 has serious faults rather than small bugs
[14:12] <pagios> ok thanks
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> atreo: lets not generalize statements because of 2 bugs
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> atreo: as you are part of the ubuntu community, feel free to file a new !bug when you find one
[14:17] <atreo> lotuspsychje: nope, they get ignored, bugs i files in 20.04 22.04 still exist in 24.04    it is a waste of my time
[14:17] <lotuspsychje> thats another false statement, a lot of bugs do get solved
[14:20] <NickCater> waveform: Thanks waveform & ravage for helping me
[14:20] <NickCater> $ lsblk
[14:20] <NickCater> NAME   MAJ:MIN RM   SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINTS
[14:20] <NickCater> loop0    7:0    0  33.7M  1 loop /snap/snapd/21467
[14:20] <NickCater> sda      8:0    0 232.9G  0 disk
[14:20] <NickCater> ├─sda1   8:1    0   512M  0 part /boot/firmware
[14:20] <NickCater> └─sda2   8:2    0  46.6G  0 part /
[14:21] <ravage> Looks good. Please use a pastebin next time :) 
[14:33] <NickCater> And I encountered this problem (https://imgur.com/a/MIoaE40) when updating ubuntu dekstop vm (vmware on windows). Not sure if it's a bug but it has been fixed with "kill 1924" and "sudo snap refresh snap-store".
[14:38] <ravage> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store-desktop/+bug/1978236
[14:38] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1978236 in snap-store-desktop "Cannot update from Ubuntu app center" [Undecided, New]
[14:39] <ravage> It's just a really bad user experience for sure
[14:45] <ogra_> ravage, https://github.com/ubuntu/app-center/issues/1643 is better (not sure they even look at launchpad bugs for it)
[14:45] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 1643 in ubuntu/app-center "Snap store update via the app center fails" [Open]
[14:45] <ogra_> NickCater, ^^^
[14:46] <ravage> Looking at the date of the but on launchpad probably not 
[14:46] <ogra_> (and it is a trivial one-line fix too, so it should land soon  ...  https://github.com/kenvandine/app-center/commit/80e36895890f1357e216bdb676024b09b636a9f5 )
[14:46] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Commit 80e3689 in kenvandine/app-center "Let snap-store snap refresh while the app is running Fixes #1643"
[14:46] <ravage> But then every project sends mixed signals 
[14:46] <ravage> Some went launchpad and some github
[14:46] <ravage> It's always confusing 
[14:47] <ogra_> yeah, weirdly the snap info points to LP
[14:47] <ogra_> $ snap info snap-store |grep contact
[14:47] <ogra_> contact:   https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/
[14:47] <ogra_> anyway, the fix is ready, just needs to land ...
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> thats gonna be good
[14:48] <ravage> ignore-running is interesting 
[14:49] <ravage> Need to check what that actually does
[14:49] <ogra_> it exists since ages, but nobody uses it
[14:49] <ogra_> it means "refresh even when there are running processes"
[14:49] <ravage> Ok. That should work for many applications 
[14:50] <ogra_> it is per-app
[14:50] <ravage> Yes sure
[14:50] <ogra_> so the maintainer needs to set it at build time
[14:50] <ravage> For the store there is not that much that can go wrong I guess
[14:50] <ogra_> (and indeed requires the app to be capable ... i.e. wouldnt work for browsers)
[14:50] <ogra_> yeah
[14:51] <ravage> I'm glad that for other apps the notification now shows you to stop the application 
[14:52] <ravage> And does the update when you do
[14:52] <ravage> At least that's what I saw in 24.04 now
[14:57] <admin__> gyh
[14:57] <admin__> HI all
[14:59] <admin__> hi
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> welcome admin__
[15:24] <atreo> people i am on ubuntu 24.04 and trying to install cloudcompare "sudo apt install cloudcompare"   it is failing to work, not sure why, i am guessing a segmentation fault (that is what i get when i run it from the terminal /usr/bin/CloudCompare)   how can i fix the problem?
[15:29] <ioria> atreo, have you tried the snap version as well ?
[15:29] <atreo> ioria: hmm havent thought about that
[15:29] <atreo> snap install cloudcompare?
[15:29] <ioria> yes
[15:31] <ioria> atreo, but if you have the .deb pkg already  installed, you need to start it as 'snap run cloudcompare'
[15:32] <Arina> https://t.me/s/helpinc
[15:32] <leftyfb> Arina: can we help you with something?
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> atreo: i just installed cloudcompare on 24.04 -desktop, seems to run fine on my side
[15:52] <atreo> lotuspsychje: let me try again   hwo do i remove it from snap?
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> atreo: sudo snap remove cloudcompare
[15:55] <atreo> ok i got it to woek
[15:55] <atreo> work
[16:01] <nahyulee> heellp
[16:01] <nahyulee> hihi
[16:01] <nahyulee> hello
[16:09] <NickCater> hello
[16:10] <toddc> !ask | NickCater
[16:19] <NickCater> Just finished setup LXD.. how to check the location of  the images files dowloaded and saved? is it in the root partition or in zfs partition?
[16:22] <ravage> https://documentation.ubuntu.com/lxd/en/latest/howto/storage_pools/
[16:30] <esv> how can I replace upstart with NetworkManager? I'm trying to replicate a customer situation and wondering how to get there.
[16:31] <esv> LOL
[16:31] <ravage> No supported version of Ubuntu uses upstart
[16:31] <esv> ... I meant netplan.
[16:31] <ravage> And network manager uses netplan 
[16:31] <ravage> At least in the latest LTS
[16:32] <ravage> So Install that and you don't need to change anything 
[16:33] <hobbitg> i recently installed garuda linux, how to transfer my snap packages here
[16:33] <esv> so with /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml file, the server will use the /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf file settings?
[16:33] <ravage> network manager is used on the desktop 
[16:33] <esv> I think that is what I need to do to break my machine.
[16:34] <esv> right... until you get a creative customer.
[16:34] <ravage> Use a VM and break away
[16:34] <hobbitg> vm uses 60% more electricity
[16:34] <esv> right, on it.
[16:36] <delsol_laptop> .... VM uses 60% more electricity than bare metal?
[16:36] <delsol_laptop> what?
[16:36] <ravage> Just ignore it
[16:37] <ravage> That made no sense at all
[16:40] <hobbitg> can you prove it
[16:40] <hobbitg> i have tested it that's what it is
[16:42] <hobbitg> especially if you run servers and stuff leaving it 24/7
[16:42] <hobbitg> going virtual uses too much energy
[16:42] <hobbitg> this is why snaps were invented
[16:42] <leftyfb> hobbitg: please stop
[16:42] <ravage> Feel free to discuss then in the offtopic room
[20:31] <younder> In servers docker or lxc containers are a lightweight alternative to virtual machines. snaps are more to avoid .so library version conflicts and for encapsulating browser and mail programs.
[20:35] <younder> Seems gnome embraces flatpack these days, so it is useful to install support for that as well.
[20:35] <KaiShiden> Girls got chip planted without them knowing it!
[20:35] <KaiShiden> Some may say it kind of obscure conspiracy theory but, did you people ever heard of certain state (for example israel) with help of gay men cult or something stalking and abusing young girls, especially those who ever somehow got someone's attention for being lolita, nymphet, sexually curious or anything?
[20:35] <KaiShiden> I recently heard something like this, group or a cult stalk girls like this in pools, saunas clinics and fit centers and they plant something, possibly a tracking devices, virus capsulas or drugs and most of all chips under their skin?
[20:35] <KaiShiden> Buttocks, palms of hands and feets most of all?
[20:35] <KaiShiden> It leaves roundy red dot or a stripe on a skin people usually pay little to no attention.
[20:35] <KaiShiden> Some models have it too, for example https://www.xerotica.com/video/lovely-ginger-pleasures-her-lover-with-a-blowjob-before-he-slips-his-tool-deep-into-her-muff-51458.html or on a feet of this girl https://www.xerotica.com/video/captivating-dame-looks-fresh-as-she-shows-off-her-perky-tits-wihle-posing-in-the-bathroom-53737.html
[21:22] <jwe0> Hmm
[21:23] <jwe0> What a wonderful world.
[21:31] <pycurious> on an ubuntu server install with nvidia gpu, what is the correct way to install the nvidia drivers: I currently use apt install nvidia-driver-535-server  - and that works.
[21:48] <nikolam> After I recovered to day from misupdate , removing and restoring apps I need from PPA and elsewhere , I still get this message:
[21:48] <nikolam> dpkg: warning: files list file for package 'linux-image-5.15.0-106-generic' missing; assuming package has no files currently
[21:48] <nikolam>  installed
[21:48] <nikolam> apt autoremove does not remove it (22.04) , should I remove it manually or else
[21:55] <younder> in https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-update-kernel-ubuntu use method 3 to install the 5.15 kernel
[22:06] <younder> You need to go into the settings of the GUI version and set prior versions to 1 to get the 5.* kernels