[00:57] <uuidNuniq> hi, on aarch64, the kernel depends on linux-firmware, but my single board computer does not need any firmware, can i mark the firmware as installed to satisfy the kernel?
[00:59] <uuidNuniq> in another word, how can i prevent linux-firmware from installing if i really don't need it
[03:02] <uuidNuniq> aha, i got it, using equivs to create a dummy package linux-firmware :)
[03:03] <Bashing-om> uuidNuniq: \o/
[03:05] <uuidNuniq> here is what i did: https://0x0.st/X8DU.txt
[03:06] <uuidNuniq> it works great :) never worry about it again :0
[04:13] <nagerst> lets say i want to run my xterm as my desktop in full screen, how do i achieve this? or any other application for that matter?
[04:13] <nagerst> without a windo manager
[04:14] <nagerst> i can make it look allright with awesomewm by disabling the entire bar on top.
[04:15] <nagerst> not what i want though
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> nagerst: maybe with a server base + i3 everything cli
[04:16] <nagerst> i3 is of course an option. but my goal is to run UAE as hosted like in AEROS but with a system from today and not debian from 2015.
[04:16] <nagerst> uae or terminal in full screen
[04:18] <nagerst> my absolute preference would be no wayland or X at all but running UAE in framebuffer mode on a amdgpu
[04:18] <nagerst> kinda like what they attempted with QNX back in the day with amithlon.
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> sounds like a more just a server then nagerst ?
[04:18] <nagerst> indeed
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> !nox
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> hmm that wiki is a bit old
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> maybe talk to the server guys nagerst
[04:20] <nagerst> i never got how you do it, i have seen youtube videos of people doing UAE on linux without xorg or wayland. but when i search for it nothing comes up any more.
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> whats your machine gonna serve for exactly?
[04:20] <nagerst> play amiga games
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> for gaming you prob will need some graphical base i think
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> cant you just grab a mininal flavour and build up from there?
[04:21] <nagerst> arcade machine with sticks and buttons, and i have gotten that to work fine even without xinput.
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> xubuntu minimal 24.04 for example
[04:22] <nagerst> but i want it to run without X. as i said i can probably do it with a tiling manager.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> think i3 still uses x or wayland
[04:23] <nagerst> according to ducumentation UAE is supposed to work fine in framebuffer mode as long as the system has a recent sdl and allegro sound compatible system..
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> but its much faster booting then a classical desktop
[04:23] <nagerst> true
[04:24] <nagerst> having it being framebuffer is not "required" i just like to keep it close to bare metal.
[04:25] <nagerst> kinda how i run dosbox for my other arcades without Xorg or wayland. But that is a different beast.
[04:26] <nagerst> dosbox on ubuntu is great, i even tried running windows 3.1 on it, and it reminded me of the bad old days =D
[04:26] <nagerst> but much faster of course
[04:26] <nagerst> 21 floppies... ugh
[04:42] <nagerst> yeah i know... i just did it as a proof of concept to prive that SDL is a better sollution than actually keeping the old crappy dos systems alive with retro parts that cost a fortune
[04:45] <nagerst> anyone can just buy a core2 duo or newer for bascily nothing, run ubuntu on it without X or Wayland in cli, then use SDL and dosbox -F -r 1024x128x32k (depending on native resolutions) and have much better performance.
[04:45] <nagerst> fun for arcade machines, but pretty much useless for most other tasks.
[04:46] <nagerst> wordperfect is still better than most other gui wordprocessors though. corel draw is also awesome, not as good as deluxe paint of course, as it does not support animations.
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | nagerst
[04:47] <nagerst> sorry
[04:47] <nagerst> the question is how to run UAE on base ubuntu without Xorg or Wayland.
[04:54] <uuidNuniq> dracut-install is extremely slow
[05:18] <nagerst> uuidNuniq: EXT or XFS?
[05:18] <nagerst> or is it a process problem?
[05:18] <nagerst> htop will tell you what is the issue
[05:20] <nagerst> I thought ubuntu had moved to xfs by default by now or zfs, but it seems it still uses the archaic ext file system by default. Speed difference is significant as whown by phoronix from 2015 onwards.
[05:32] <BrassPin88> who is /dev/sda6 and what business does it have clearing all my precious inodes after the grub screen?
[05:33] <BrassPin88> what can I do? I feel absolutely powerless infront of it.
[05:38] <uuidNuniq> nagerst: i use initramfs-tools, but dracut-install is still being used
[05:38] <uuidNuniq> that piece of shit is really slow.
[05:39] <maydo> Yo I wanna off topic rn.
[05:40] <Ximo> uuidNuniq: is it possible you're the slow part?
[05:41] <uuidNuniq> i am not sure why dracut-install is used, `top` shows it is searching stuff
[05:41] <rollappuser> sup
[06:17] <nagerst> idk, but i would your kill -9 that process and let it advance. This is not how you usally do it, byt pre packaged
[06:22] <uuidNuniq> initramfs-tools does not depend on dracut-install on debian
[08:57] <ruspy> when is bing chat being integrated into ubuntu
[09:05] <WhateverMate> I'm using Ubuntu 22.04 LTS. Does anyone know if ufw's application integration works by only allowing traffic to the application or is the feature just used to determine which port(s) to allow based on an applications profile?
[09:21] <metehan> hi
[10:07] <mkou> can you help with May 10 11:46:12 userx bluetoothd[1366]: src/profile.c:ext_io_disconnected() Unable to get io data for Hands-Free Voice gateway: getpeername: Transport endpoint is not connected (107)
[10:08] <mkou> after an unattended update lots of things got wrong, not just the bluetooth
[10:56] <masber> hi, I am overseas, connected to internet and location services on... the cloak is still showing the time from home instead of the new place I am in
[10:56] <masber> why is that?
[10:57] <masber> any idea how to make automatic timezone to work?
[10:58] <EriC^^> what cloak masber ?
[10:58] <EriC^^> oh
[10:58] <EriC^^> clock you mean
[10:58] <masber> the one I see in the taskbar
[10:58] <masber> the bar at the top
[10:58] <masber> in the middle
[10:58] <EriC^^> gotcha
[10:59] <masber> status bar
[10:59] <masber> I live in Switzerland and I am now in New Zealand...
[10:59] <masber> and it still showing Zurich time
[11:04] <EriC^^> masber: what's in the 'settings -> time & date' ?
[11:06] <masber> EriC^^ https://pasteboard.co/LBTpg6GHvfge.png
[11:22] <EriC^^> odd masber
[11:24] <EriC^^> it sounds counterintuitive but try to turn location services off
[11:24] <EriC^^> seems some bug https://forum.manjaro.org/t/location-services-doesnt-seem-to-function-at-all/93044/6
[11:28] <ghostofwallstree> cheeki breeki
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> can we help you ghostofwallstree ?
[11:30] <ghostofwallstree> not unless you know how to make gpu mining profitable
[12:32] <younder> Having some problems with tmux. I can only make it work with TERM=xterm and the tmux-themepack doesn't seem to work
[12:33] <younder> so no powerline
[12:34] <younder> I am using Ubuntu 24.04
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:06] <Pruners> hi BluesKaj
[14:06] <BluesKaj> hi Pruners
[15:47] <xvx> What's the difference between "Snap packages" and "Debian packages" in the App Centre?
[15:47] <oerheks> !snap
[15:47] <oerheks> and debian packages are .deb files
[15:50] <xvx> Why does the App Center show both? my initial assumption was it just showed snaps
[15:51] <oerheks> convenient, not to search in 2 software tools
[15:51] <xvx> if I filter by "Debian packages" in App Centre, is that equivalent to doing command `apt search` in terminal?
[15:54] <oerheks> xvx, yes, somewhat
[15:55] <xvx> Will App Centre search just the default Ubuntu apt repository, or all the PPAs that I'm connected to? (or something else?)
[15:56] <oerheks> if you added a ppa, those packages are listed too.
[15:57] <ravage> And also the snap store 
[15:59] <xvx> oerheks: it doesn't seem listed though. I added PPA to apt for ungoogled-chromium today and installed it via terminal. Now I searched App Centre (Debian package) but it's not there
[16:01] <xvx> Also I think other times I searched in App Centre (filtered Debian packages) and didn't see any result, but found it in `apt search`
[16:03] <ravage> Then just use apt install 
[16:03] <oerheks> this ppa? ppa:xtradeb/apps
[16:03] <ravage> I ignore that app center completely :) 
[16:04] <xvx> I think so yes
[16:04] <oerheks> chromium is a snap now, not sure it can conflict
[16:04] <xvx> ungoogled-chromium is different
[16:05] <ioria> https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store-desktop/+bug/1966142
[16:05] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1966142 in snap-store-desktop "Ubuntu Software does not include .deb packages" [Critical, Fix Released]
[16:06] <xvx> it says fix released though?
[16:06] <ioria> should be fixed
[16:06] <oerheks> that was in 2022, ioria
[16:06] <ioria> yep
[16:06] <ioria> xvx, are you on 22.04 ?
[16:07] <xvx> 24.04. I do see results in App Centre btw, my point is searching apt in terminal gives more/other results
[16:08] <xvx> I was hoping I could conveniently search  snap/deb in Software Centre instead of have to additionally search in apt terminal
[16:08] <ioria> xvx, sy, i don't follow
[16:10] <ioria> xvx, you don't get results in snap-store or what ?
[16:10] <xvx> Here's an example (random thing I searched):
[16:11] <xvx> searching 'imgvtopgm' in App Centre (Debian packages) has no results, but there is result in apt terminal
[16:12] <ioria> xvx, is 'imgvtopgm' a only cli app ?
[16:12] <xvx> might be (I thought App Centre worked for cli apps too though?)
[16:13] <ioria> xvx, i dont think so; but you can make a .desktop file
[16:13] <ioria> in /usr/share/applications
[16:16] <xvx> So is this correct? App Centre, siltered by Debian packages, will search for all the same results as `apt search` but filter out CLI apps
[16:16] <ioria> it needs a .desktop file afaik
[16:16] <xvx> ok let me try it
[16:19] <xvx> I did `touch .desktop` in that directory, still don't see results in App Centre. Maybe need to restart PC
[16:20] <ioria> touch ? you need to edit a new one with its correct syntax
[16:21] <xvx> oh how? (I install Ubuntu today so idk lol)
[16:22] <ioria> xvx, you installed ubuntu today for the first time ?
[16:23] <xvx> I've tried/used it before, but first time I want to use as my primary OS
[16:25] <ioria> xvx, cp a .desktop file from /usr/share/application in your home; open it , read it and check this : https://docs.fileformat.com/settings/desktop/
[16:26] <ioria> there are also tools that does that for you afair
[16:29] <xvx> So is this correct: I need to make a desktop entry file with the right details for a particular app, then if I search in App Centre for the Debian package, it should show?
[16:30] <oerheks> the .desktop file shows up in your software menu, not in app center
[16:31] <leftyfb> xvx: I think the criteria to show up in the app center, the application needs to have a desktop file as part of it's packaging
[16:41] <xvx> ah so only a subset of Debian packages will appear in App Centre
[16:41] <leftyfb> correct
[16:42] <leftyfb> it's primarily graphical apps, but a small portion of CLI apps will show up because they have a .desktop file as part of the package
[16:42] <xvx> I hoped I could conveniently just search App Centre (snaps + Debian packages), but will need to additionally do `apt search`
[16:43] <leftyfb> for instance, vim shows up in the software center, it's a CLI tool but it does have a .desktop file which just brings it up in a terminal when you run it from the desktop
[16:43] <oerheks> ah, metapackages only
[16:43] <oerheks> my bad
[16:43] <leftyfb> xvx: I honestly don't see the advantage of searching for CLI applications in the software center. If you plan on using it in a terminal, just use that to search
[16:44] <xvx> Because I'm checking for Snaps first, then resorting to apt secondly. I read Snap targets both UI and CLI apps
[16:46] <xvx> idk if apt is inherently better for CLI apps though, I know Snap is unpopular in general with some people
[16:47] <ioria> also taxes are unpopular
[16:49] <xvx> idk if leftyfb is suggesting apt is better for CLI apps. I installed today Neovim through Snap (App Centre)
[17:10] <ioria> xvx, ah, forgot, in order to add a custom item in snap-store you need also a .xml in /usr/share/metainfo
[17:14] <xvx> I guess that doesn't add any convenient though if I'd need to manually add it there isntead of just `apt install x`
[17:16] <ioria> that's why it's called a 'custom' thing
[17:19] <xvx> Maybe the more convient way to search for UI/CLI apps is by doing `snap search x` then `apt search x` in terminal instead of using App Centre
[17:20] <leftyfb> it's certainly the quickest and will yield more results
[17:20] <xvx> what approach do you take?
[17:21] <leftyfb> all CLI
[17:21] <leftyfb> I use the desktop mainly for websites
[17:21] <xvx> huh you haven't installed any UI apps?
[17:21] <oerheks> try synaptic https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/addremove-install-synaptic.html.en
[17:22] <leftyfb> xvx: I do, but I use the terminal more
[18:28] <blackspiderman> Back in high school they used to call me nigger
[18:28] <blackspiderman> But now they still call me nigger. Fuk
[18:29] <oerheks> ?
[18:30] <oerheks> !coc | blackspiderman
[18:30] <blackspiderman> Im black. Black spiderman. Banning me is racist
[18:31] <mybalzitch> hey I spotted the person with the room temperature IQ
[18:31] <mybalzitch> <3 Flanne l
[18:31] <oerheks> welcome to saturday support, mybalzitch
[18:34] <bprompt> unless you're in Asia or Australia, is Sunday's support
[18:35] <ravage> Or Europe 
[18:36] <ravage> So basically in a lot of places 
[18:38] <TrueLibre> Hi guys, what setting should I look in my router to allow ssh out home network?
[18:38] <TrueLibre> *outside
[18:38] <mybalzitch> you want people to be able to ssh in?
[18:38] <leftyfb> TrueLibre: that would be a #hardware or #networking question. Unless your router is running Ubuntu
[18:39] <TrueLibre> I mean for ipv6, for ipv4 I can just port forward in router
[18:39] <leftyfb> TrueLibre: but also, since you're asking that question, I don't think it's a good idea
[18:39] <TrueLibre> leftyfb: thanks for pointing out, im new to this irc thing
[18:40] <TrueLibre> --> "Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be logged into your NickServ account"
[18:40] <bprompt> TrueLibre:  maybe a better question is, what do you have in mind with SSH?   do you even  need it?
[18:40] <TrueLibre> mybalzitch: Only me
[18:41] <TrueLibre> bprompt: I want to manage my homelab ubuntu mini server outside the home.
[18:42] <bprompt> TrueLibre: ok, remote home-server management access
[18:43] <TrueLibre> and want to allow ssh connection from ipv6 only.. its part of my learning curve.
[18:44] <TrueLibre> currently my home network is on Zyxel router..
[18:47] <sixwheeledbeast> port forwarding has nothing to do with v6, do you have a v6 connection on the wan
[18:47] <bprompt> TrueLibre: right , hmmm as I myself dunno, however the guys at #ubuntu-server may, now some channels use +r mode( registered nicks allowed only ), reason being that prevents nick-floods, and those happen, so you'd want to first try to see if  #ubuntu-server is not +r, from what I can see is not, so you should be able to go right in
[18:48] <leftyfb> sixwheeledbeast: ipv6 supports NAT which is more than likely what they have
[18:49] <sixwheeledbeast> either way it's not really a ubuntu related, you can open your port inbound with ufw to the machine you want for v6 only.
[18:49] <leftyfb> ufw will only work on their router if it's running linux with ufw
[18:50] <sixwheeledbeast> this is #ubuntu right? i am staying ontopic
[18:51] <leftyfb> Ubuntu doesn't have a firewall enabled by default
[18:51] <oerheks> if that ubuntu server got a static ipv6 ip ...
[18:51] <leftyfb> if they can't access their machine remotely, it's due to NAT and they need to forward a port. Nothing needs to be done on the ubuntu side besides install ssh
[18:51] <leftyfb> oerheks: if it did, they probably wouldn't be asking how to port forward :)
[18:52] <oerheks> yes, client list would allow you to do something
[18:52] <TrueLibre> Ya, my ISP do provide ipv6.. may be you can help pointing out which channel should I ask. #networking block unregister nickname
[18:52] <leftyfb> !register | TrueLibre
[18:53] <bprompt> sixwheeledbeast: yes is #ubuntu, however the channel is not terribly busy, we know is a bit offtopic
[18:57] <bprompt> TrueLibre: well, there's also #ipv6 , is not +r, so you can go right in
[20:04] <younder> Ubuntu 24.04 - Ended up building tmux from source when the ubuntu supplied versions wouldn't play nice with the gnome-terminal. Seems it can't understand xterm-256colors. Buildt it against system ncurses and it works again.
[20:08] <rbox> you shoudn't be setting term t o xterm inside of tmux...
[20:23] <younder> Xterm is limited. try running btop and the lines separating the entries don't show up under xterm
[22:32] <Mogul345> Hi everyone, need some help. I'm trying to do a clean install of Kubuntu 24.04, using this wiki article to do full disk encryption with /boot encrypted along with an encrypted LVM PV that will hold my 3 logical volumes for /, /home, and swap: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019. Unfortunately this is failing at the
[22:32] <Mogul345> installing bootloader step. Here's a paste to my calamares session.log file - https://dpaste.com/3JASH3TQ3. Here's a link to the error I'm getting https://imgur.com/2Hj2ZSP
[22:32] <Mogul345> I assume the issue is that the instructions are written for the older installer, not the new calamares based installer Kubuntu uses
[22:47] <Remy> Zwitserland won,,!!!
[22:52] <jeremy31> Remy: Wrong chat