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cobraerikoI turned off all bluetooth devices, rebooted and now I get this error: "kaudit_prink_skb: 138 callback suppressed00:02
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oerheksrate limiting message, not important00:04
cobraerikoand "Bluetooth: hci0 HCI reset during shutdown failed"00:04
oerhekspastebin the log please?00:05
oerheks!paste00:05
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cobraerikooerheks I don't know how to copy/paste the log. It's just a boot screen that's hung. I can't even get into TTY . So I took a pic with my phone https://pasteboard.co/yaWIJoOaZ8tD.jpg00:15
cobraerikoShould I use Boot-Repair?00:16
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walterduranHello01:35
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batbatHello01:39
noobarooI built a custom package using --nocheck, how can I apply the same option to install?03:11
noobarooIt's missing a control.tar.zst but if I can build without a control, I would think I can install without03:12
Doc-SaintlyI'm having an issue with Ubuntu 22.04 on new Intel hardware. I've upgraded the kernel to 6.5 OEM and it's a bit better, but there seems to be disk issues. Any time there's modest disk activity the whole system freezes (but the cursor still moves), and I see this in dmesg: nvme nvme0: I/O 194 QID 10 timeout, completion polled03:30
Doc-SaintlyI've already updated the kernel option to disable the sleep setting (according to something I read on forums), but I just can't seem to get it to stop hanging. Any ideas?03:35
lotuspsychjeDoc-Saintly: share your full dmesg with the volunteers, so they can help investigate your errors please03:41
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Doc-Saintlylotuspsychje: anyhting I should scrub from it for privacy purposes?04:21
arraybolt3Doc-Saintly: dmesg is just the kernel logs, it's unlikely it will contain any personal info other than perhaps some of the apps you're running, what drivers are in use, whether you're having disk I/O errors, etc.04:27
Doc-SaintlyI've been very gentle this boot to stop it from crashing, guess I need to copy some stuff around to trigger it :D04:30
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Doc-Saintlydpaste seems to be down :\ but here's it on another paste: https://bin.disroot.org/?0f6fe6da5be93a68#3NtDVGwWXuQfirHgQbTpHFLE4XREZuKNn66wLXLbCFNY05:05
mrecbasically ubuntu is releasing garbage versions of the Mate desktop05:47
mrechighly unstable05:47
mrecthe latest code should be used instead of sticking with some old code ... there is no such thing as a stable mate desktop environment05:48
mrecsticking with the old versions will waste user time to report bugs, waste developer time to look at bugs.05:49
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xanguaHuh, latest stable mate was released in 202105:55
xanguaAt least that's what their blog says05:55
webchat71Hello Everyone,05:59
webchat71I am facing DNS issue on ubuntu 22.04 LTS, what I did was whitelist our office IP in instance security group.05:59
webchat71And now I am not able tot download any package from the internet and not able to ping 8.8.8.8 as well05:59
rfmwebchat71, this sounds like a cloud instance, what with "instance security group"?  If it can't ping 8.8.8.8 things are pretty bad.  Is it possible you changed the "security group" to *only* allow the office ip?06:29
webchat71Yes, I did the same06:31
webchat71I have allowed my office IP as a source for port 2206:31
rfmwebchat71, this all sounds like it's an AWS issue, not ubuntu.  I'm not sure you'll get much help here.  If I were you I'd try backing the security group off to one of the more open default ones to at least get back to being able to ping a DNS server, and then tighten up from there....06:34
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loswedsededis there ny way to make libreoffice's cursor more visible?08:13
loswedsededits a very thin line08:13
younderThat is the standard gnome setting unfortunately.08:17
youndertry 'gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface cursor-size 64'08:19
loswedsededyounder, will the increase the cursor' size on both axis or just horizontally?08:20
loswedsededthat08:20
Your_DogHello, the docker image for ubuntu is very minimal, anyone here know if there is a docker image for ubuntu that has a similar bundle in an ubuntu server.iso file?08:20
Your_Dogthat has all the other crap like sudo, shutdown08:21
younderForget it. I just tried it and it sets the mouse cursor as well08:22
younderThis preference is buried in System->Preferences->Appearance. Click on the Theme tab, click the Customize button, click on the Pointer tab, choose anything other than Default or Human, and adjust the size with the slider.08:25
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loswedsededthx younder08:38
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c_89Hi, I would like to know if I have two firmware with same name but different versions into /lib/firmware and in /usr/local/lib/firmware , does the kernel load only one of the two? If so, which one?09:25
quadrojournalctl ; is there not a default file size limit on the log file? One machine I have reported over 3GB. The other, just above 2GB. I suppose having no hard file size limit with the initial install would make sense if one was to have the requirements or need. Having it take GB's of space seems, in my view, a bit much. Perhaps this is part of the system configuration that I have overlooked? Any thoughts or a direction where I should09:39
quadrolook would be appreciated. I was able to set the file to a certain size in both my cases and that has worked well. Thanks.09:39
ravagequadro: the default is some percentage of the disk size. but i dont remember the details. https://andreaskaris.github.io/blog/linux/setting-journalctl-limits/ to set limits09:42
quadroravage: Thank you. I'll check that out.09:48
c_89Hi, I would like to know if I have two firmware with same name but different versions into /lib/firmware and in /usr/local/lib/firmware , does the kernel load only one of the two? If so, which one?09:56
shin_hello10:07
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uzzI don't follow the snap bad mentality, but where can I find a list of all packages that are just a snap install command instead of a binary or library?11:04
ogra_uzz, i dont think such a list exists, but up to now there are only three packages anyway, chromium, firefox and with the latest release (24.04) thunderbird11:16
JanCthose packages PreDepend on snapd11:24
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uzzCompared to flatpak, do snaps have separate runtimes per GNOME version or KDE version? Because deps get beefy after a while wtih flatpak.11:33
nikolamI updated Firefox minutes ago form Mozilla apt source and got this message of Ubuntu's inability to handle (106 and) 107 kernel update. Currently running updated 22.04 but booting os 5.15.0-105-generic #115-Ubuntu on MBR11:56
nikolamhttps://pastebin.com/qJ4i7xmx11:56
nikolamWhen the problem arised, on 106, I removed all packages installed over PPA to update, then reinstalled them afterwards . 106 was never used on this machine, it used to reboot then restart in 10511:57
ogra_nikolam, fix your /etc&default/grub file, you messed it up12:20
ogra_*/etc/default/grub12:20
nikolamah ogra_ Ah, I have set intel_iommu=on kvm.ignore_msrs=1  in /etc/default/grub and forgot about that. Maybe that is the issue.12:23
nikolamogra_, Thanks, will try that.12:23
ogra_nikolam, definitely ... you most likely wanted to add it to some env variable, not addi it plain to the file12:23
ogra_i.e. to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= or GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=12:24
nikolamYes I have found in it GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" #GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash amdgpu.ppfeaturemask=0xffff7fff"12:26
nikolamhttps://termbin.com/2vw812:29
BluesKajHi all12:41
mandem0110Can't believe how broken 24.04 is on x86. The installer just crashes on several different devices. Absolutely crap.12:46
leftyfbmandem0110: lets not. Ask for help if you need help. There's no need for the rant12:47
* mandem0110 yawns at leftyfb12:48
mandem0110There's 100% a need. And I'm not ranting. I'm stating a fact.12:48
leftyfbmandem0110: what's the name and date stamp of the iso you downloaded?12:50
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oerheks"<mandem0110> Can't believe how broken 24.04 is on x86" ... interesting, there is no i386 iso13:45
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CryptiicHello14:09
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ice9these packages have been kept back for almost a month now, is there anything wrong? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/qJTjCoDG15:31
ice9I thought gnome has full time developers + the volunteers15:34
leftyfbice9: what release of ubuntu?15:38
ice9leftyfb, 24.0415:39
Doc-SaintlyDoes anyone here know what could be causing system freezes and this in dmesg? nvme nvme0: I/O 194 QID 10 timeout, completion polled15:39
mandem0110oerheks: .... Funny because I said that meaning 64bit. It's broken. Clearly you know what I meant.16:10
leftyfbmandem0110: if you'd like support with your install issues, please answer the questions asked16:11
mandem0110leftyfb: no one asked any questions........16:12
leftyfbmandem0110: what's the name and date stamp of the iso you downloaded?16:12
mandem0110Why tf does that matter?16:12
leftyfbmandem0110: it's called troubleshooting16:13
* mandem0110 yawns leftyfb16:13
leftyfbmandem0110: please let us know when you'd like support. Otherwise, feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support related conversations16:14
mandem0110Idk what fin iso I grabbed. It was from Ubuntu's website. Not sure why that matters.16:14
leftyfbmandem0110: were you able to install 24.04 successfully?16:14
mandem0110No.16:14
mandem0110The installer crashes.16:14
leftyfbmandem0110: would you like help with installing 24.04?16:15
* mandem0110 ignores leftyfb16:15
leftyfbmandem0110: please let us know when you'd like support. Otherwise, feel free to /join #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support related conversations16:15
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mandem0110xubuntu-24.04-minimal-amd64.iso                           2024-04-24 21:11  2.5G16:26
leftyfbmandem0110: have you decided you'd like help installing Ubuntu 24.04 now?16:29
mandem0110...16:29
leftyfbmandem0110: would you be willing to try the default installer as opposed to xubuntu minimal?16:29
mandem0110You asked about the date/time of the ISO I grabbed. That's it.16:29
mandem0110No.16:30
oerhekshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/205480616:58
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2054708 in ubuntu-desktop-provision "Xubuntu installer gives an empty blank window." [Undecided, Fix Released] [duplicate: 2054806]16:58
oerheks#15 No problem with ISO dated 2024040916:58
oerhekshttps://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily-live/16:59
oerheksnot the minimal though16:59
Doc-Saintly:\ leftyfb - thanks for trying, even in such cases.17:03
zi86greetings everyone! i would like to know how to disable the power button entirely on ubuntu 20.04 LTS (not server)17:06
mandem0110leftyfb: LOL even Lubuntu boots to a black screen, doesn't go any further. Can't even get to the install screen. SO yes, it's broken.17:06
mandem0110Client: HexChat 2.16.1 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (x64) • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 6-Core Processor              (3.70GHz) • Memory: 31.9 GiB Total (29.4 GiB Free) • Storage: 1.8 TiB / 8.2 TiB (6.4 TiB Free) • VGA: AMD Radeon RX 6750 XT • Uptime: 1m 26s17:06
mandem0110That's my specs.17:06
zi86i tried fiddling with gsettings17:06
zi86also i changed logind.conf to say HandlePowerKey=ignore17:06
mandem0110I'm done here. I'll wait for the point release. goodbloodybye.17:07
oerheksAMD Radeon RX 6750 XT17:07
oerheksoh17:07
zi86with gsettings, i tried messing with org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power17:07
leftyfbzi86: there's no way in software you prevent powering off by holding down the power button17:08
zi86not holding it down, i just don't want that menu to appear and let people do it17:08
zi86they will have the common sense not to hold it down17:08
leftyfbzi86: gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power power-button-action 'nothing'17:08
oerheksgsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power \   power-button-action "nothing"17:09
zi86i set that for the lightdm user, but it still shows the menu17:09
zi86do i need to restart lightdm?17:09
oerheksbut holding powerbutton goes into hardware shutdown anyway17:09
leftyfbzi86: the default ubuntu install uses gdm, not lightdm17:09
oerhekssee your bios for this behaviour?17:10
zi86it still shows the menu17:10
leftyfbzi86: reboot. But still, Ubuntu uses gdm by default, not lightdm17:10
zi86i definitely see lightdm in the processes17:11
zi86and there's a lightdm.service17:11
leftyfbzi86: which release of ubuntu?17:11
zi8620.0417:11
zi86focal17:12
oerheksecho $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP17:12
leftyfbyeah, that might have used lightdm back then17:12
zi86oerheks: just a sec, it's rebooting :)17:13
zi86still shows the menu :(17:13
zi86i don't have that environment variable as root over ssh17:15
zi86when i used gettings i set that DBUS thingy17:15
zi86org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power power-button-action 'nothing'17:18
zi86for the lightdm user17:18
zi86no user is logged in directly at the moment17:18
zi86not sure what to do17:21
zi86it just rejects everything...17:21
leftyfbzi86: why are you doing anything as root? ssh'ing into anything as root is VERY discouraged and should never be needed. Why do you keep referring to your user as "the lightdm user"?17:23
zi86leftyfb: i don't ssh in as root i just did sudo -i, the lightdm user is called "lightdm"17:25
zi86it is the user lightdm runs with17:26
leftyfbzi86: don't sudo -i and don't do anything to or as the lightdm user17:26
zi86so just use my user?17:26
leftyfbzi86: login as your user and run: gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power power-button-action 'nothing'    # then reboot17:26
zi86alright, here goes17:27
zi86leftyfb: the menu still appears17:29
zi86if i do gsettings get it correctly says "nothing"17:31
zi86so the option is set, but it just doesn't care17:31
zi86oh, there's com.canonical.unity.settings-daemon.plugins.power17:36
leftyfbzi86: I would highly suggest upgrading to 24.04 in August when 24.04.1 is released17:37
zi86this didn't work either17:41
zi86well, trying some other things now17:44
zi86xinput disable 6 seems to work17:45
zi86any way to make Xorg permanent disable these inputs?17:48
zi86*permanently17:48
oerheksthe only viable option would be a bios setting for this behaviour17:56
zi86no it's literally software18:00
zi86i'm trying to put18:01
zi86xinput disable 6 && xinput disable 8 in Xsession.d18:01
zi86Xsession seems to run and18:02
zi86it calls Xsession.d stuff with run-parts18:02
zi86unfortunately it's not getting called when lightdm starts X18:04
zi86okay, solved18:12
zi86i changed /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d18:13
zi86added a file 70-disable-powerbtn.conf18:13
zi86it just does an InputClass section18:13
zi86and MatchProduct "Power Button" Option "Ignore" "on" :)18:13
zi86well, thanks anyway, it was at least nice to talk to someone18:22
faizulhi all18:25
Guest25hi18:33
Guest25anybody there18:34
vrachyes18:34
vrachbut not for long18:35
vrachbye bye18:35
Guest25bye18:35
oerheks 18:35
Im_newHello. I have a problem. My ubuntu computer is waking up randomly from suspend. I went to #linux and no help there. My pc model is Dell Optiplex, don't know what version, and the OS is Ubuntu 22.04.18:51
Im_newAnyone can help?18:52
Im_newAnyone???18:53
Im_new1128 people here and no help.18:53
oerhekswaking up randomly from suspend ... heavy truck driving by that activates your mouse?18:54
Im_newno18:55
Im_newit just wakes up18:55
Im_newin middle of night18:55
Im_newno cars around18:55
Im_newoerheks18:55
Im_newHave any help?18:55
Im_newNot a big problem, but wastes electricity.18:56
Im_newWhich is annoying18:56
Im_newLol18:56
Im_newBRB18:56
oerheksinstall gnome-tweak-tool to see if there are more sleep/suspend/power options for you18:57
Im_newso i should do (sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool)?18:58
Im_newoh sorry gtg meeting18:58
oerheksyes, run updates first, properly18:58
u0_a331im trying to test out some nvidia drivers in linux but this is surprisingly complicated am i right that i cant install them on the livecd, make a thumbdrive from windows with full install cant install linux from the livecd usbkey to it to test drivers with?19:06
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ravageYou can install Ubuntu from one USB drive to another 19:08
ravageFrom the live session to any other USB device and you get a full installation you can test with 19:08
namehereive only got one usb key but theres got to be a way to get a fully installed ubuntu on it somehow?19:10
ravagePXE boot from another device19:11
namehereive only got this one laptop and a phone19:12
oerheksfor that, you need a 2nd usb19:14
oerheksor memorycard, if your system can boot from it , good luck19:15
nameherethat cant be right i guess maybe install the installer to a partition on my windows disk is that not possible?19:17
oerheksno, only if you have grub already installed.19:18
oerheksisoboot19:18
nameherei remember you used to be able to installl linux from windows for dual boot at one point at least19:18
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot19:18
nameherehmm you know if theres a way to boot legacy mode if all you have is uefi in bios oerheks? i think i might need fw for it but im not sure if it needs that bios mode maybe19:22
oerheksno.19:22
oerheksget a 2nd usb, and you can do an uefi install.19:22
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JoeLlamaIntel or AMD for linux?20:40
user10Hi! Someone can help me? Sorry. My english is terrible.20:40
oerheksJoeLlama, both, intel cpu and AMD gpu ?20:40
oerheksalso polling is of no use20:41
oerheksuser10, explain your issue and what ubuntu version?20:41
JoeLlamanvidia or AMD graphics for linux?20:41
JoeLlamait's all very confusing these days20:42
oerheksboth are supported20:42
JoeLlamahrm which is best? :)20:42
JoeLlamawhat is best? (:20:42
user10I'm trying to install tibia in my ubuntu. I have a file .tar.gz.20:42
user10How can I install it?20:42
user10Version: Ubuntu 24.4 LTS.20:42
user10Software link: https://static.tibia.com/download/tibia.x64.tar.gz20:42
gordonjcpJoeLlama: Nvidia20:42
oerheksthere is no single best.20:42
JoeLlamanvidia you say...20:43
gordonjcpJoeLlama: AMD works, kind of, if you've got a very new card and you don't care about GPU compute20:43
JoeLlamaI wasd leaning towards nvidia20:43
gordonjcpamdgpu supports old cards but no GPU compute20:43
oerheksuser10, as it is not in our repos, read their help? https://www.tibia.com/support/?subtopic=gethelp&entryid=12120:43
gordonjcpamdgpu-pro is the binary AMD driver, which supports OpenCL, badly, on cards newer than about 18 months old20:43
JoeLlamaok20:44
gordonjcpNouveau supports NVidia about well enough for gaming20:44
JoeLlamaso then perhaps Intel + Nvidia20:44
gordonjcpnvidia's binary drivers support very high performance and CUDA20:44
oerheks!nvidia20:44
ubottuDrivers for Nvidia graphics cards: (A) No gaming/CAD/CUDA needed or legacy hardware? Use "nouveau" (open source, lacks many features). (B) Otherwise, "nvidia" (proprietary driver, fully featured). Install using "ubuntu-drivers" CLI or apt - not from nvidia.com. Driver series, hardware support (release notes): https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ - Latest drivers !PPA: https://pad.lv/ppa/graphics-drivers20:44
gordonjcpif you're doing video, NVidia is literally the only choice20:44
gordonjcpAMD and Intel can't do video, at all20:45
JoeLlamaok ok thanks20:45
gordonjcpyou can *just about* play back H.265 on Intel or AMD20:45
gordonjcpword of warning though20:45
JoeLlamaok ok I did have that experience with AMD didn't work well under linuc20:45
gordonjcpUbuntu currently has an entirely broken mutter library that breaks terminal input if you're using NVidia20:45
oerheksif you do not need computing, AMD/radeon is fine20:46
user10oerheks, I receive this output:20:46
user10Warning: Ignoring XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland on Gnome. Use QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland to run on Wayland anyway.20:46
user10qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even though it was found.20:46
user10This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.20:46
user10Available platform plugins are: xcb.20:46
user10Aborted (core dumped)20:46
oerheks!paste20:46
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JoeLlamagunna go intel + nvidia20:46
JoeLlamathanks (:20:46
JoeLlamaI Think it20:47
JoeLlamas less confusing that way20:47
JoeLlamabye for now20:47
oerhekshave fun20:47
user10oerheks, this output has came:20:48
user10Warning: Ignoring XDG_SESSION_TYPE=wayland on Gnome. Use QT_QPA_PLATFORM=wayland to run on Wayland anyway.20:48
user10qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even though it was found.20:48
user10This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.20:48
user10Available platform plugins are: xcb.20:48
user10Aborted (core dumped)20:48
oerheksno not again ..20:48
gordonjcp168.197 is a hell of a hard prefix to read for a network engineer with dyscalculia20:48
Menzadoruser10: I think you may wish to employ the use of a pastebin20:50
user10sorry20:52
user10https://pastebin.com/BBmq5giJ20:54
user10like this?20:54
oerheksno idea why it would not launch on wayland, https://tibia.fandom.com/wiki/Linux_Client#Installation_and_launch another big help forum20:55
oerheksin that a starter to edit..20:56
user10does not work :(21:03
TkayaHey Guys! I have been hit with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2-unsigned/+bug/2051999 can someone help me to recover from it?21:34
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2051999 in zfs-linux (Ubuntu) "Grub2 2.06 has upstream bug that results in Non-booting with ZFS after snapshot of bpool." [Undecided, Confirmed]21:34
TkayaI've got a live iso booted on the machine but I just don't understand how I should update grub based on this workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2-unsigned/+bug/2051999/comments/2321:35
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2051999 in zfs-linux (Ubuntu) "Grub2 2.06 has upstream bug that results in Non-booting with ZFS after snapshot of bpool." [Undecided, Confirmed]21:35
TkayaAny help would be greatly appriciated21:35
oerheksstill reading Tkaya https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2-unsigned/+bug/205199921:42
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2051999 in zfs-linux (Ubuntu) "Grub2 2.06 has upstream bug that results in Non-booting with ZFS after snapshot of bpool." [Undecided, Confirmed]21:42
oerheks!info grub2 nobel21:42
ubottu'nobel' is not a valid release21:42
oerheks!info grub2 noble21:42
ubottugrub2 (2.12-1ubuntu7, noble): GRand Unified Bootloader, version 2 (dummy package). In component universe, is extra. Built by grub2. Size 3 kB / 12 kB. (Only available for any-i386, any-amd64, any-powerpc, any-ppc64, any-ppc64el, any-sparc, any-sparc64.)21:42
oerhekssome comment says removing snapshots bpool should get the system booting21:43
Tkayafrom what I understand yes, because they move everything to rpool from bpool and use ZFSBootMenu but this server is really far away21:44
Tkayathere has to be a way to solve this from a live iso21:45
oerheksyou might want to reask in #ubuntu-server too21:45
TkayaI just did21:46
oerhekslooking at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=grub-efi-amd64;dist=unstable21:49
oerhekshttps://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=106494521:49
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Debian bug 1064945 in grub-efi-amd64 "grub-efi-amd64: Sudden boot failures on ZFS systems" [Normal, Open]21:49
name_hereman this really makes me want to use ubuntu what a huge group of folks22:00
name_hereIs there a way to learn more about what makes ubuntu different from say fedora/redhat?22:00
name_heredebian seems great22:09
name_hereI guess I'm wondering what goes in to it if I'm supporting some badness by being a part of it and im pretty mental tbh22:10
name_herei guess its basically like politics to ask... i start to feel bad about using debian so i ask22:14
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Tkayaalright guys Wish me luck22:50
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