[02:31] <lotuspsychje> good morning
=== esv_ is now known as esv
[16:29] <JanC> <tomreyn> "ip link" rather than "ifconfig -a" nowadays
[16:29] <JanC> shouldn't that be "for the last 15 years" or so instead of "nowadays"
[16:29] <JanC> ;)
[16:30] <tomreyn> let's say 'for a good while'
[16:30] <tomreyn> but nowadays, too
[16:54] <leftyfb> I'll be honest, I only transitioned after xenial :)
[16:55] <leftyfb> the output of ifconfig IS a lot easier to read
[16:56] <leftyfb> hell, just spacing the interfaces out would be an improvement 
[16:59] <leftyfb> and TIL of -br. That's a lot nicer if all you're looking for is an ip
[16:59] <JanC> :)
[17:00] <JanC> indeed
[17:00] <leftyfb> the default colors of -c are awful
[17:04] <JanC> ip can output to JSON too, so it should also be easy to create your own custom commands if you want
[17:04] <leftyfb> true
[17:04] <leftyfb> love me some jq
[17:04] <JanC> having exactly the info & colours you prefer  :-)
[17:04] <leftyfb> but -br is a lot easier
[17:05] <JanC> if it has all you need
[20:48] <daftykins> frankly the loss of ifconfig was not progression imo
[20:48] <daftykins> i no longer know how to statically address an interface after bringing it up via CLI - and this is a crying shame
[20:53] <Bashing-om> daftykins: It's now ' ip ' to take the place of ifconfig .
[20:54] <daftykins> oh yeah i very regularly use 'ip a' but i don't know enough to assign