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[04:46] <vvxpxr> yee
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[14:27] <DarkTrick_> do I need to understand that?
[15:56] <tomreyn> DarkTrick_: what's "that"? BANnNEDoo_y was spam, and i doubt there was much to be understood about what vvxpxr wrote.
[16:32] <DarkTrick_> thx for the clarification.
[18:22] <xu-help66w> Hello, im unable to install xubuntu 24.4 alongside windows, I get this error: Command unshare --fork --pid --mount-proc=/target/proc -- chroot /target apt-get --quiet --assume-yes --option=Dpkg::options::=--force-unsafe-io --option= etc
[18:22] <xu-help66w> Exit code: 100
[18:22] <xu-help66w> Reason: -
[18:23] <xu-help66w> No stdout or stderr
[18:23] <xu-help66w> Its clearly -- chroot and not --chroot
[18:24] <xu-help66w> "Unexpected error while running command"
[18:50] <tomreyn> -- indicated that anything following it should be treated as non-option arguments
[18:51] <tomreyn> indicateS
[18:51] <tomreyn> and there is no "--chroot" option to unshare, so this looks fine
[18:54] <tomreyn> xu-help66w: you're installing using the xubuntu installer there, not the ubuntu server installer, right?
[18:55] <xu-help66w> Yes, xubuntu installer from website, torrent download
[18:55] <xu-help66w> Before the error it says:
[18:55] <tomreyn> have you verified the ISO checksum against the one published on the website?
[18:56] <xu-help66w> raise ProcessExecutionError
[18:56] <xu-help66w> curtil.util.ProcessExecutionError: and then the error
[18:56] <xu-help66w> I was honestly unable to find the sha sum on the website...
[18:57] <xu-help66w> so I didnt verify
[18:57] <tomreyn> can you share the full log file? cat /path/to/logfile | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:57] <xu-help66w> The sum is not next to the download links, at s it usually is on other distros
[18:58] <tomreyn> this would require internet access
[18:58] <xu-help66w> il try
[18:59] <tomreyn> https://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/24.04/release/SHA256SUMS
[18:59] <tomreyn> i agree it would be nice to have those stated on the download page
[19:02] <xu-help66w> WTF the checksum does not match, I get bbd869f20cf24a017e75758a209e5d9b6b5d5469976ae8253d95c29fcee4800d  xubuntu-24.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:03] <xu-help66w> first time, i guess im downloading again
[19:44] <xu-help66w> it works now yes
[19:56] <tomreyn> very well
[19:57] <tomreyn> nrmally, a bittorrent should do checksumming, too, though, so i'm wondering whether, maybe, the .torrent is broken
[20:05] <loswedseded> how come I still cannot smart upgrade to 24.04? do-release-upgrade shows no new candidates
[20:06] <tomreyn> from?
[20:06] <loswedseded> 23.10
[20:07] <tomreyn> https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release does not list noble, yet, so apparently upgrades have not been enabled, yet
[20:09] <loswedseded> tomreyn, so all ubuntu flavors are meta enabled at the same time? that list is for ubuntu
[20:09] <tomreyn> i believe so, yes
[20:10] <loswedseded> will xubuntu also have a 24.04.1 released in August, like ubuntu?
[20:10] <tomreyn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NobleUpgrades states that "Upgrades from Ubuntu 23.10 will be enabled shortly after the release, once any known upgrade issues are resolved."
[20:11] <tomreyn> i assume thaz will be so, but am not really sure.
[20:14] <tomreyn> xu-help66w: for what it's worth, i just downloaded xubuntu-24.04-desktop-amd64.iso using the https://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/24.04/release/xubuntu-24.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent file and got a matching checksum on the downloaded .ISO file (to the one at https://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/24.04/release/SHA256SUMS )
[20:34] <loswedseded> tomreyn, but I want to smart upgrade
[20:41] <tomreyn> what's that?
[20:43] <tomreyn> loswedseded: ^
[20:44] <loswedseded> apparently upgrade not deleting your configuration
[20:51] <tomreyn> supported release upgrades should not delete your configuration (unless those would break theupgraded version of some software - but there, too, i'd rather expect the new version to move the unsuitable configuration out of the way, not outright delete it)
[20:54] <loswedseded> tomreyn, this is an option I found on synaptic. I like using synaptic to see package names, but it was last updated in 2021, should I use something else?
[21:00] <tomreyn> loswedseded: if you don't mind using apt in a terminal too much, use that
[21:06] <loswedseded> tomreyn, do you use any app to give you an idea of what apps are available?
[21:09] <tomreyn> loswedseded: apt search 'something'   and    https://packages.debian.org    and    https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/madison.cgi
[21:10] <tomreyn> those are for debian packages (*.deb, via apt) only, though, not snaps or other package formats.
[21:12] <tomreyn> there's also package and command "apt-file", which you can use to "apt-file search 'something'" which you'd otherwise only find while the package was installed.
[21:41] <mp_> moin moin