| eelstrebor | 664 | 00:02 |
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| eelstrebor | i changed it to 764 and it launched | 00:02 |
| leftyfb | eelstrebor: what does a downloaded file have to do with firefox installed from ppa and vlc not opening anymore? | 00:02 |
| eelstrebor | i don't know why it's not getting the executable flag | 00:02 |
| cbreak | you downloaded an executable? | 00:03 |
| leftyfb | eelstrebor: what file? | 00:03 |
| cbreak | why not use apt install vlc-bin? | 00:03 |
| cbreak | browsers don't write files as executable for security reasons | 00:03 |
| eelstrebor | i have a webif program for my satellite receiver and when i click on the satellite channel it's suppose to launch vlc for the program that i want to watch | 00:04 |
| leftyfb | a webif program? You mean a website? an .html file on your desktop? You click on a link/button on the page within firefox and vlc is supposed to open? | 00:05 |
| eelstrebor | webif is an app that i connect to on the satellite receiver using the browser | 00:06 |
| leftyfb | ok, so you go to a website to click on a link to open vlc. What does this file with the wrong permissions come in? | 00:07 |
| eelstrebor | webif has a list of all the satellite channels that i can watch | 00:07 |
| eelstrebor | technically it's not a website - it's a local thing - for C-band satellite services | 00:08 |
| eelstrebor | /me knew that this was going to be difficult to explain | 00:10 |
| * eelstrebor knew that this was going to be difficult to explain | 00:10 | |
| ali12341 | its just serving up a playlist? | 00:10 |
| ali12341 | and you want firefox to open it with vlc | 00:10 |
| eelstrebor | pretty much | 00:10 |
| eelstrebor | yes | 00:11 |
| ali12341 | so this is not a permissions issue, it's a problem of filetype associations | 00:11 |
| eelstrebor | like it did before using the snap version | 00:11 |
| leftyfb | so why did you remove the snap version if it worked fine? | 00:11 |
| eelstrebor | i got a box asking how to handle the downloaded file and i told it to open it with vlc which it wouldn't do | 00:12 |
| eelstrebor | i was having problems with connecting to x.xom using the snap version | 00:13 |
| eelstrebor | x.com | 00:13 |
| leftyfb | x.com works fine for me | 00:13 |
| eelstrebor | always something - at least i have less problems using linux as compared to windows | 00:14 |
| eelstrebor | x.com works fine with the ppa version but not the snap version | 00:15 |
| leftyfb | it's working fine here with the snap version | 00:15 |
| vortexx | looks like apt-key is still a thing in 24.04 | 00:15 |
| leftyfb | apt-key is deprecated. Use gpg instead | 00:16 |
| vortexx | leftyfb: that's nice, but how do you backup the packages keys? I'd love an updated version of the link I posted above, but it still works | 00:18 |
| vortexx | apt-key still works, even if deprecated, even in 24.04 | 00:18 |
| leftyfb | backup package keys? why would you need to do that? | 00:18 |
| vortexx | leftyfb: part of the backup & restore procedure if you want to copy over a config after a fresh install | 00:19 |
| vortexx | https://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/how-to-backup-settings-and-list-of-installed-packages look at this. It's been working for me for 5+ years if I need it | 00:19 |
| vortexx | one of my major frustrations on linux compared to OpenBSD is how not so easy it is to move a config over using apt | 00:20 |
| vortexx | or rather, ubuntu linux | 00:21 |
| leftyfb | vortexx: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys <package key> ; gpg --export <package key> |sudo gpg --dearmor --output /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/<package name>.gpg --yes | 00:21 |
| vortexx | leftyfb: thank you, I'll give that a go in a VM | 00:22 |
| leftyfb | I run that for every 3rd party repo I need as part of my ansible playbook | 00:22 |
| vortexx | what was wrong with apt-key? just a need to use a tool that was more generic? | 00:24 |
| leftyfb | vortexx: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-fix-the-apt-key-deprecated-warning-in-ubuntu/#:~:text=One%20of%20the%20reasons%20why,have%20a%20signed%2Dby%20option. | 00:25 |
| eelstrebor | i wiped out anything to do with firefox, remove and reinstall the ppa firefox and rebuild all my bookmarks - now vlc launches - what a hassle | 00:34 |
| leftyfb | eelstrebor: let us know if you need support with anything. Feel free to chat/rant in #ubuntu-offtopic | 00:35 |
| eelstrebor | "thanks" for your help - see ya | 00:39 |
| leftyfb | did we help with something? | 00:39 |
| vortexx | leftyfb: sometimes just being there is enough to help. sometimes | 00:42 |
| Macer | lol | 00:42 |
| Macer | i'm still wondering what a webif program is. maybe a web interface to the sat receiver? | 00:43 |
| Macer | which in turn feeds an m3u to vlc through the browser it seems maybe? | 00:43 |
| leftyfb | there was apparently firefox(installed from ppa, not supported here), vlc and some unknown file that had a permissions issue. | 00:44 |
| leftyfb | a downloaded file, that needed to be executable for firefox/vlc to work | 00:45 |
| Macer | but that still doesn't explain why x.com formerly known as twitter didn't work | 00:45 |
| leftyfb | none of which makes sense | 00:45 |
| leftyfb | it does work | 00:45 |
| Macer | i could see some sort of snap awkwardness with regard to in snap filesystems being a thing to pipe to vlc from ff | 00:45 |
| vortexx | https://wiki.openpli.org/Webif | 00:45 |
| Macer | ah so i was about rgiht | 00:46 |
| vortexx | x.com is migrating various regions of the world from twitter.com to x.com, not that that has anything to do with ubuntu | 00:46 |
| vortexx | it's possible there's DNS issues going on for some people in some part of the world | 00:47 |
| Macer | really going 'all in' on the whole x.com thing huh? | 00:47 |
| Macer | but yah that doesn't have much to do with ubuntu .. i doubt accessing it in a snap version makes much difference | 00:48 |
| JanC | that will be awkward when he has to sell it | 00:48 |
| vortexx | more offtopic speculation | 00:48 |
| Macer | i don't run the snap version of brave because of gvfs smb access not working | 00:48 |
| Macer | which i never sorted out other than not using it and adding the brave ppa | 00:49 |
| vortexx | I use brave, what do you mean by gvfs smb access? that it doesn't allow access to files when opening via the file manager? with file:/// ? | 00:53 |
| vortexx | not that I use the snap version either, I use the ppa as well | 00:54 |
| vortexx | mainly because I'm stuck in my ways and haven't really wanted to rely on snap | 00:54 |
| JanC | Gvfs allows you to do userspace SMB/NFS/SFTP/etc. "mounts" to access files on a file server | 00:55 |
| vortexx | yes I know | 00:57 |
| vortexx | vlc doesn't seem to like gvfs, but it speaks enough other things I don't really care | 00:57 |
| JanC | VLC is Qt IIRC, so it probably doesn't support Gtk's Gio/Gvfs indeed | 00:58 |
| vortexx | true | 00:58 |
| JanC | but IIRC it links to the same libraries that can do userspace "mounts"? | 00:58 |
| vortexx | I'd forgotten about Qt | 00:59 |
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| vortexx | JanC: I usually mount things via Nautilus apart for NFS, so I guess VLC can't talk to Nautilus things | 01:17 |
| vortexx | since that's gtk not Qt | 01:19 |
| JanC | it can, but only through the FUSE mounts Gvfs creates when 'gvfs-fuse' is installed, which are a bit awkward to use :) | 01:19 |
| vortexx | ugh, fuse | 01:19 |
| vortexx | it's not really an issue, NFS covers my VLC needs | 01:19 |
| vortexx | and DLN | 01:19 |
| vortexx | DLNA | 01:19 |
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| JanC | gvfs-fuse mounts them under /run/user/$UID/gvfs/ | 01:21 |
| vortexx | good to know, thank you | 01:21 |
| JanC | or in your file manager use "open in terminal" | 01:22 |
| JanC | that will show the somewhat ugly & long-winded location :) | 01:23 |
| JanC | also, not all operations will work IME | 01:24 |
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| vortexx | yeah there's nothing more that I like than tons of really longs UUIDs | 01:26 |
| JanC | vortexx: but sometimes it's useful to get quick access to something | 01:26 |
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| vortexx | JanC: or when debugging grub configs, especially with LUKS | 01:28 |
| ali1234 | ssh-import-id-gh does not work on an ipv6 server, because github does not have an ipv6 address? | 01:36 |
| JanC | ali1234: you mean an IPv6-only server? | 01:39 |
| ali1234 | yes | 01:39 |
| ali1234 | ssh-import-id-lp works tho | 01:39 |
| JanC | and GitHub doesn't have an IPv6 address indeed | 01:40 |
| ali1234 | been scratching my head for like an hour trying to work out why it wasn't working | 01:40 |
| ali1234 | also even though my server doesn't have a pubic ipv4, i am surprised hetzner doesn't set up NAT or whatever so you can still access things | 01:42 |
| JanC | ali1234: IPv6-only is cheaper, so... | 01:44 |
| JanC | then again, they might have a proxy or something else that you can use when configured properly; check their documentation | 01:45 |
| ali1234 | the final server is going to have ipv4, i was just being cheap while messing around with cloud-init trying to learn it | 01:47 |
| ali1234 | the other annoying thing about hetzner here is there doesn't seem to be any way to modify the config after you create the server. you have to delete it and start over. | 01:47 |
| ali1234 | it does at least remember it if you rebuild | 01:48 |
| JanC | are you using the API (e.g. using hcloud-cli) or the web interface? | 01:50 |
| ali1234 | web interface | 01:51 |
| ali1234 | console.hetzner.cloud | 01:51 |
| ali1234 | i should get the cli set up | 01:52 |
| ali1234 | but i'm worried about accidentally getting a huge bill, heh | 01:52 |
| JanC | hcloud-cli is packaged in Debian/Ubuntu, as is the Python implementation of the API | 01:52 |
| ali1234 | nice | 01:52 |
| ali1234 | i'm trying to fully automate my multi-container docker app | 01:53 |
| ali1234 | but i've never actually done anything like this before | 01:53 |
| ali1234 | most i've done is run home assistant locally with docker compose | 01:54 |
| ali1234 | random hetzner question: if i host my app in helsinki instead of nuremberg will the BSI stop sending me false-positive security alerts? | 01:55 |
| JanC | BSI? | 01:56 |
| geeky | howdy | 01:56 |
| ali1234 | German Federal Office for Information Security ( BSI ) | 01:56 |
| ali1234 | apparently they port scan | 01:57 |
| JanC | why would they send you security alerts? I've never seen those... | 01:57 |
| geeky | anyone know why my ubuntu desktop cant seem to open settings but terminal opens fine | 01:57 |
| ali1234 | JanC: do you know "telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl"? | 01:58 |
| JanC | sure | 01:58 |
| ali1234 | my app does something similar to that | 01:58 |
| JanC | oh | 01:58 |
| ali1234 | ie it has port 23 open | 01:58 |
| JanC | can't you tell them it's fine? | 01:58 |
| ali1234 | i get a security report once a week from the BSI, forwarded via hetzner | 01:58 |
| JanC | either Hetzner or the BSI... | 01:59 |
| ali1234 | hetzner dont seem to care, they just forward the report | 01:59 |
| JanC | probably auto-forward :) | 02:00 |
| JanC | but maybe there is some way to whitelist your port 23 :) | 02:00 |
| ali1234 | it says as much, basically "you can ignore this, but we're required by law to forward it to you" | 02:00 |
| JanC | the other option is to tarpit the BSI so that they stop scanning you ;-) | 02:01 |
| ali1234 | i considered just firewalling them specifically | 02:01 |
| geeky | seems a number of apps are crashing on my system, gnome-initial-setup crashed with SIGSEGV in_dl_close() | 02:02 |
| ali1234 | geeky: did you update or upgrade recently? is it a new install? | 02:03 |
| geeky | new install just completed today | 02:03 |
| geeky | 24.04 | 02:03 |
| ali1234 | have you run memtest? | 02:03 |
| geeky | yes, passed 5 passes | 02:03 |
| JanC | does it happen on every boot? | 02:04 |
| geeky | should I have run it longer? | 02:04 |
| geeky | yes | 02:04 |
| ali1234 | 5 full passes is usually enough | 02:04 |
| JanC | maybe some bug... | 02:04 |
| geeky | segvanalisys destination not located in a known vma region | 02:04 |
| JanC | geeky: did you check the bug tracker to see if others got that too? | 02:04 |
| JanC | oh | 02:05 |
| geeky | guessing I need to adjust some memory settings in the bios | 02:05 |
| JanC | I don't think that's the problem | 02:05 |
| ali1234 | its unusual for everything to be crashing with segv all over the place | 02:05 |
| ali1234 | usually a hardware problem, or perhaps a corrupted installer image | 02:06 |
| ali1234 | or harddrive/ssd is corrupted somehow | 02:06 |
| geeky | let me check my vma values in the bios anyway, i have an nvidia egpu so that might be it | 02:06 |
| JanC | maybe try a new install indeed, and make sure to verify | 02:06 |
| geeky | third time installing today, same issue each time | 02:07 |
| geeky | right after boot the gnome setup fails then i can't get into settings | 02:07 |
| ali1234 | egpu as in a discrete card in external box? | 02:07 |
| JanC | hmm, there were some Nvidia-related issues in 24.04 a while ago, but I don't know the details | 02:07 |
| geeky | ali1234 correct | 02:07 |
| JanC | nor do I know if they were fixed | 02:07 |
| geeky | I selected install additional drivers during install | 02:08 |
| ali1234 | in theory it shouldn't make any difference but... i just don't trust PCIe over a cable | 02:08 |
| ali1234 | i've tried it with non-gpu cards and i always got weird errors eventually | 02:09 |
| JanC | I'm not sure the cable would be the issue or the different timings for the longer distance or something like that | 02:10 |
| ali1234 | i would try with on-board graphics if possible. just to rule it in/out as the cause | 02:10 |
| JanC | geeky: certainly also make sure your UEFI firmware is up-to-date | 02:10 |
| JanC | and try internal graphics indeed | 02:11 |
| geeky | the internal graphics card doesn't seem to boot at all, which is why I ended up with the egpu | 02:12 |
| geeky | seems like there is an open bug for this | 02:16 |
| geeky | 2062949 | 02:16 |
| ali1234 | bug 2062949 | 02:16 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Bug 2062949 in gnome-remote-desktop (Ubuntu) "gnome-remote-desktop-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_iteration()" [Undecided, Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2062949 | 02:16 | |
| ali1234 | try an X11 session? | 02:17 |
| ali1234 | seems to be wayland specific | 02:17 |
| ali1234 | not sure if gnome even supports x11 session any more but you could always install xubuntu - it doesn't support wayland at all :) | 02:18 |
| geeky | not sure how to do that | 02:21 |
| geeky | neofetch worked, saw both the igpu and egpu | 02:21 |
| ali1234 | it used to be that at the login screen you could select the session type - "GNOME on Wayland" or "GNOME on X11" or such | 02:22 |
| ali1234 | i'm not sure if that is still possible as I use xubuntu/xfce and so no such choice is ever available to me | 02:22 |
| geeky | ah, i am using stock ubuntu 24.04 desktop amd64 | 02:23 |
| geeky | I didn't see that option | 02:23 |
| ali1234 | it's not very obvious. they kept making the button for it smaller and smaller... it may have completely gone by now, idk... it's been a long time since i used ubuntu desktop | 02:24 |
| oerheks | all ubuntu flavors give x11 and wayland session option at login | 02:26 |
| ali1234 | xubuntu doesn't | 02:26 |
| ali1234 | but point taken | 02:26 |
| oerheks | maybe because you installed nvidia prop drivers? | 02:26 |
| arraybolt3 | oerheks: I'm unaware of *any* Ubuntu flavor that does that, no Ubuntu flavor has a default Wayland option yet AFAIK. | 02:26 |
| ali1234 | no, because xfce doesn't support wayland at all | 02:26 |
| oerheks | gnome does wayland as default | 02:27 |
| arraybolt3 | But yes, if your flavor has a Wayland option (like Kubuntu does) and you go out of your way to install that, then you will get the switch on the login screen. | 02:27 |
| arraybolt3 | Xubuntu has no Wayland option now. | 02:27 |
| oerheks | oh | 02:27 |
| geeky | i checked additional drivers, it says its using nvidia-driver-535 (proprietary, tested) | 02:27 |
| geeky | I do have the option of using X.Org nouveau display driver under additional drivers | 02:28 |
| ali1234 | you could try nouveau but it will probably fail even harder than it already does | 02:29 |
| geeky | I will try more google | 02:31 |
| geeky | this machine was previously running 23.10 without the egpu. the igpu was okay, but now it wont launch the installer with the igpu | 02:32 |
| geeky | guess I can go back to running more memtest and see if something shows up | 02:33 |
| ali1234 | i suspect that is related | 02:33 |
| ali1234 | gnome seems to want to treat egpu as an "accelerator" | 02:33 |
| ali1234 | according to the bug you mentioned | 02:33 |
| ali1234 | it will try to use the igpu in some cases | 02:33 |
| ali1234 | so if that isn't working, that won't end well | 02:33 |
| ali1234 | what is the ipgu? | 02:34 |
| geeky | cpu: i7 1165g7, gpu rtx 3050, gpu intel tigerlake-lp gt2 [iris xe] | 02:36 |
| ali1234 | nothing too exotic then | 02:37 |
| ali1234 | i would expect that to just work | 02:37 |
| geeky | yes, was hoping it would just work | 02:38 |
| geeky | i changed the nuc bios to point to the thunderbolt ports for gpu | 02:38 |
| oerheks | iris xe .. maybe a help https://itsfoss.com/intel-nvidia-graphics-switch-ubuntu/ | 02:39 |
| geeky | okay, swapped known good ram from my laptop and starting memtest86 7, this will take a while | 03:08 |
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| Psil0 | hey question | 04:05 |
| Psil0 | i am trying to configure fail2ban and cannot understand why so many python3 packages are missing and not picked up | 04:05 |
| Psil0 | you have to basically build it from srcs, or go down line by line fixing packages. | 04:05 |
| Psil0 | cheers | 05:18 |
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| Guest28 | please help i can't login to terminal when i press ctrl alt f7 and it is just a blank screen with cursor blinking at top left | 08:24 |
| webchat39 | hi, I attempted to install ubuntu 24.04 in my brand new laptop dell xps 16, I am having trouble with input devices specifically camera and audio , linux 24.04 doesn't detect them and I have tried many many solutions from web to solve this but was not succsfull anybody can help me please ? | 08:28 |
| Diagon | Boot failing@ "Job gpu-manager.service/ start running...". Booting recovery works. Haswell+Nvidia. Thoughts? | 09:16 |
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| Diagon | With nomodeset, boot freezes@: | 11:11 |
| Diagon | snd_had_intel 0000:00:03.0: HSW/BDW HD-audio HDMI/DP requires binding with the gfx driver | 11:11 |
| Diagon | If I remove 'gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode' and add nomodeset, it boots. | 11:11 |
| BlueShark | Hey folks. I'm trying to test something related to case senstivity. Is there an easy way to create a case insensitive file system? `mkdcir a && mkdir A` should fail with `mkdir: cannot create directory ‘A’: File exists`. Preferably some method that would allow me to test this inside docker. | 11:48 |
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| name_here | BlueShark: its been quiet so far these past few minutes | 11:53 |
| Diagon | two and a half hours | 11:53 |
| name_here | heh ive only been here a few min trying to remember all my questions but get weirded sometimes just for ... at least starting out first questions | 11:56 |
| name_here | curious is ok (yes) say when mirroring displays why the supported resolutions arent including 1366x768 | 11:59 |
| name_here | but when join they are both able to have that one | 12:00 |
| ananke | BlueShark: your key words are 'casefold ext4' | 12:00 |
| ananke | BlueShark: eg: https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2020/08/27/using-the-linux-kernel-case-insensitive-feature-in-ext4/ | 12:00 |
| name_here | Anyone have a site for simple commands and such to save? | 12:03 |
| name_here | preferrable NOT in video format | 12:03 |
| BlueShark | ananke: That's what I've been searching with, yes. | 12:03 |
| ananke | BlueShark: if so, then you should have been able to get similar hits | 12:05 |
| name_here | I've still got the question of if there's a way to boot legacy mode from uefi (the hardware bios has removed the feature) | 12:16 |
| name_here | I've got a videocard I think I may need to update the firmware on to be compatible with uefi | 12:17 |
| name_here | but i dont really know how uefi works so i dont know if its more than a chainloader(?) say if it removes access to firmware? so say if i had a virtualmachine booting a legacy bios could it in theory update the firmware of a host device? | 12:19 |
| name_here | because what would be different between those scenarios? | 12:22 |
| cbreak | so, finally jumping onto 24.04. Made a physical replica of my desktop to try an upgrade :) | 12:41 |
| name_here | cbreak: ha thats funny if thats funny | 12:43 |
| UbuSer12 | I have Ubuntu Studio 24.04 and Ubuntu 24.04 - the problem is identical on both. Namely, I have a 4K external monitor connected to my laptop. I would like to use the native 4K resolution on both the laptop and the external monitor. Unfortunately, if I use the 4K resolution, every time the computer goes into sleep mode or just screen saver mode, the | 13:36 |
| UbuSer12 | external screen doesn't wake up. Changing the resolution to a lower one and then back to 4K helps, and everything works until the next sleep. The problem does not occur at resolutions lower than 4K - the external monitor wakes up every time. | 13:36 |
| UbuSer12 | I am using an NVIDIA GeForce 2080 RTX graphics card with the nvidia-driver-550 drivers, but I have checked with several earlier versions. The same issue occurs with the Nouveau drivers. | 13:36 |
| cbreak | do you have the option to compare display port vs hdmi? | 13:39 |
| cbreak | I've made bad experiences with HDMI in particular | 13:39 |
| UbuSer12 | theoretically yes, but only via thunderbolt. I wanted to avoid that | 13:46 |
| Diagon | How do I look up the value of a kernel module option? (snd-intel-dspcfg) | 14:16 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 14:20 |
| UbuSer12 | modinfo snd-intel-dspcfg | 14:28 |
| UbuSer12 | cat /sys/module/snd_intel_dspcfg/parameters | 14:28 |
| UbuSer12 | Diagon: ^ | 14:29 |
| Diagon | UbuSer12 / Very much helpful! :)) | 14:30 |
| cbreak | upgrade to 24.04 seems to have worked! (at least it didn't catch fire immediately) | 14:51 |
| cbreak | just have to rip out snap thunderbird and get the normal one... | 14:52 |
| leftyfb | cbreak: why? | 14:52 |
| cbreak | I'm expecting similar issues as with the snap firefox | 14:52 |
| cbreak | well, I'll give it a few months, but ... | 14:52 |
| leftyfb | I've been running the thunderbird snap since February | 14:53 |
| cbreak | ... the upgrade reinstalled that shitty snap firefox... *grumble* | 14:55 |
| cbreak | leftyfb: I don't expect the same issues as with ff, so I'll also give it some time | 14:55 |
| cbreak | but considering the issues with many of the snap packages I've seen, I'm not too hopeful | 14:55 |
| cbreak | who ever designed snaps doesn't seem to have though of people using more than one storage location | 14:56 |
| leftyfb | I have 33 snaps installed. Zero problems with any of them | 14:56 |
| cbreak | I have problems with at least four of them | 14:56 |
| cbreak | mostly with interacting with the outside world | 14:57 |
| cbreak | like the snap firefox STILL (after TWO YEARS) can't talk to the 1password app | 14:57 |
| cbreak | or the snap slack can't send any files without me copying them to ~/Downloads or similar | 14:57 |
| cbreak | I expect thunderbird to have the same problem | 14:57 |
| cbreak | that I have to copy the files to Downloads for it to be able to atach them | 14:58 |
| cbreak | but ... I'll see once I try that | 14:58 |
| leftyfb | Slack can open files from any location on my laptop | 14:58 |
| leftyfb | as can thunderbird | 14:58 |
| cbreak | not on my three systems | 14:58 |
| cbreak | when ever I try to atach anything from anywhere outside ~/ it chokes and gives some misleading error message | 14:59 |
| leftyfb | did you install slack as --classic? | 14:59 |
| cbreak | no, what's that? | 14:59 |
| cbreak | I have 4.38.121 | 14:59 |
| leftyfb | sudo snap install slack --classic | 15:00 |
| cbreak | hmm... interesting | 15:00 |
| cbreak | I shall try that the next time I'm annoyed with it, thanks! :) | 15:01 |
| cbreak | would that also work with FF and TB? | 15:01 |
| cbreak | or do snaps have to be specially made for it? | 15:01 |
| Guest36 | Hi, I am running Ubuntu 23.10 and updated to the latest. My laptop reccently broke two times. Do anyone have time to check part of my journalctl output? I am not familiar with this kind of debug, and have no ideas what's going on. | 15:01 |
| leftyfb | I don't have either of those installed as classic and they both can open files from anywhere on my machine | 15:02 |
| Guest36 | Btw, What pastebin is recommended in this channel? Thanks. | 15:02 |
| leftyfb | cbreak: Guest36 "broke two times" doesn't really help debug anything. Can you be more specific? Also, what release are you running now? cat /etc/os-release | nc termbin.com 9999 | 15:03 |
| leftyfb | cbreak: https://imgur.com/a/P4M9jZM | 15:05 |
| Guest36 | leftyfb: yeah, I am trying to paste part of my journalctl log to pastebin. Trying to figure out which pastebin is recommended here. I am running Ubuntu 23.10. https://termbin.com/sexx | 15:05 |
| leftyfb | Guest36: just know, 23.10 will be end of life in July(2 months) | 15:06 |
| Guest36 | This is part of my journalctl log: https://termbin.com/1cqa | 15:07 |
| Guest36 | I forgot to look at what time is broken. | 15:08 |
| Guest36 | Yeah, I am waiting to update to LTS. But ubuntu hasn't finished the update app. | 15:08 |
| cbreak | Guest36: I've just tried it with do-release-upgrade -d... it seems to have worked... for now :) | 15:09 |
| === devslash5 is now known as devslash | ||
| Guest36 | The laptop is broken two times recently. When it broke, the monitor turns to black. So I have no ideas if the keyboard still works or not. | 15:09 |
| Guest36 | cbreak: Thanks for the tip. I think I will wait for the official GUI app. I am using customized LUKS encrypted partitions. (LUKS partitions created manually instead of using the installation tool). I don't want to break my files and system. | 15:11 |
| Guest36 | When I look at the log, I feel the broken might be caused by amdgpu driver. But I am not sure. I saw some messages about amdgpu driver in the log. | 15:13 |
| Guest36 | I found this: "amdgpu_job_timedout [amdgpu]] *ERROR* GPU Recovery Failed: -62" | 15:15 |
| Guest36 | Is this broken caused by chrome with enabled vulkan driver? I don't really see any clues from the journalctl log. ( https://termbin.com/1cqa ) | 15:22 |
| Guest36 | Two suspect softwares that were running are chrome (with vulkan enanled) and virtualbox running windows. Other softwares are less suspect than these two. OR maybe just becaues bad amdgpu driver. OR something else. Not sure. | 15:24 |
| === veegee_ is now known as veegee | ||
| loswedseded | does dosbox on 23.04 use much resources? | 16:04 |
| rbox | loswedseded: probably about the same it did on 22.04 | 16:09 |
| rbox | lol | 16:09 |
| Guest36 | Anyway, Thanks. Just ignore my question. I gotta go. Bye. | 16:21 |
| === javi404_ is now known as javi404 | ||
| ph88 | sometimes orange boxes appear on my desktop to move windows into them, i don't know what triggers these boxes to come up. How can i disable this ? | 16:49 |
| geeky | quick update 13hr memtest, 6 passes complete, no errors | 17:04 |
| geeky | peak temp was 79c on the i7-1165g7 | 17:04 |
| geeky | going to try reimaging the usb and trying the install for the 4th time | 17:05 |
| loswedseded | can any of you tell me where to find dosbox' config file so I see a bigger window? default is too small | 17:33 |
| rbox | its gonna be in your home directory | 17:35 |
| rbox | you might need to create it if it doesnt exist | 17:35 |
| geeky | fresh install, same issue, sigsegv writing null vma | 17:41 |
| ioria | geeky, might be a cpu issue; open bios and see if you can disable something (core, threads, etc. etc.); go with try & err | 17:51 |
| geeky | oddly enough didn't happen on 23.10 | 17:53 |
| geeky | same hardware minus the egpu | 17:53 |
| vortexx | loswedseded: it's ~/.dosbox/dosbox-0.74-3.conf for me | 17:58 |
| ioria | geeky, in alternative, try the daily build : http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 17:58 |
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| loswedseded | thx vortexx , what parameter do I have to edit for a bigger window? | 17:59 |
| === travisghansen6 is now known as travisghansen | ||
| vortexx | loswedseded: windowresolution: Scale the window to this size IF the output device supports hardware scaling. | 18:16 |
| loswedseded | vortexx, so, windowresolution=1600x800 forced? | 18:18 |
| TomBombadill | Hello | 18:40 |
| TomBombadill | someone can help me please? | 18:40 |
| rbox | TomBombadill: you would have to tell us the problem first | 18:43 |
| bprompt | !ask | TomBombadill | 18:45 |
| ubottu | TomBombadill: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 18:45 |
| TomBombadill | In questo momento il mio file manager ha il simbolo di 3 notifiche, in realtà sono fasulle e non so come toglierle! Ho provato a riavviare anche il sistema | 18:47 |
| TomBombadill | Right now my file manager has the symbol of 3 notifications, in reality they are fake and I don't know how to remove them! I tried restarting the system too | 18:47 |
| TomBombadill | green symbol* | 18:47 |
| bprompt | hmm | 18:56 |
| bprompt | !it | TomBombadill | 18:56 |
| ubottu | TomBombadill: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi «/join #ubuntu-it» senza virgolette) | 18:56 |
| TomBombadill | Non voglio cambiare chat perchè in quello italiano non mi risponde mai nessuno | 19:01 |
| TomBombadill | I don't want to change chats because in the Italian one no one ever answers me | 19:01 |
| bprompt | TomBombadill: well, hmmm your issue has to do with an specific file manager, how about providing a quick picture of the issue, the window showing the notifications icon, use a pastebin like snipboard.io , copy your picture and at snipboard.io simply press ctrl-v, you can do the same in imgur.com , and paste the url here for us to check | 19:04 |
| bprompt | TomBombadill: most likely I don't use the same file manager you're using, but others may | 19:05 |
| TomBombadill | https://snipboard.io/A0QBYN.jpg | 19:06 |
| TomBombadill | Nautilius | 19:06 |
| Hootch | hey, I got a problem with gdm3 vs sddm. I changed gdm3 into sddm and the window manager don't start. Can I modify the mounted file system to reset it to gdm? | 19:07 |
| tomreyn | TomBombadill: which ubuntu version is this? is it actually ubuntu, or some derivative? | 19:08 |
| Hootch | Ubuntu 24.04 LTS | 19:08 |
| Hootch | oh not me :) sorry | 19:08 |
| tomreyn | Hootch: i think you can sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 | 19:08 |
| Hootch | I can only boot the live system with my mounted local drive | 19:09 |
| Hootch | reconfigure will not run on a live system | 19:09 |
| bprompt | !chroot | Hootch | 19:10 |
| ubottu | Hootch: A chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot | 19:10 |
| tomreyn | it will if you chroot | 19:10 |
| TomBombadill | I'm using Ubuntu official canonical 24.04 | 19:10 |
| bprompt | Hootch: in essence, "chroot"ing to your installed system from the LiveUSB session, will make any command within the chroot session, to take effect in the installed system, not the LiveUSB session | 19:11 |
| bprompt | Hootch: however, I wonder how come "sddm" didn't run the manager, usually you'd be presented with a pulldown menu of which manager session you want, you pick one and off you go | 19:14 |
| tomreyn | TomBombadill: The green emblem on the Files (Nautilus) icon indicates a previously completed file operation. Click on the date / time on the top panel to access and remove notifications | 19:14 |
| TomBombadill | haushauahahahahsuahsau | 19:15 |
| TomBombadill | is so easy hahahaha | 19:15 |
| TomBombadill | :''') | 19:15 |
| TomBombadill | thank you | 19:15 |
| tomreyn | once you know where to click, which is not too obvious | 19:15 |
| TomBombadill | thank you very much | 19:16 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome | 19:16 |
| bprompt | TomBombadill: To see what is in front of one's nose needs a constant struggle. ~~ George Orwell, "In Front of Your Nose" ~~ | 19:16 |
| TomBombadill | maybe in the Italian chat they were as good and funny as you! However, they are very absent and aggressive if I insist on asking them for support | 19:17 |
| Hootch | bprompt, my current problem is .. I have no dialog programm to see the gdm configure view. any hints? | 19:19 |
| bprompt | Hootch: well, a chroot session won't have any dialogs per se, is in a terminal | 19:20 |
| Hootch | I ment the CLI dialog gui not a gui like gnome etc. | 19:20 |
| Hootch | I meant the CLI dialog gui not a gui like gnome etc. | 19:21 |
| TomBombadill | Hei, i'm getting another trouble with Libre office | 19:28 |
| TomBombadill | If i click the center of writer interface… i get another hidden interface app as is an ologram! | 19:28 |
| TomBombadill | https://streamable.com/utz4fm | 19:30 |
| TomBombadill | i made a simple video | 19:31 |
| bprompt | TomBombadill: from the video there, I can't see it :| | 19:37 |
| Hootch | I fixed it :) thx a lot | 19:37 |
| devslash | So I've got a weird issue. My ubuntu server has a USB drive attached to it. I have a row in fstab to auto mount it at boot up but it's stuck at boot up trying to mount the drive. I unplugged the drive and checked it on my ubuntu laptop and was able to mount the drive just fine. It seems to hang when trying to mount it and boot up | 19:40 |
| devslash | It eventually boots into emergency mode | 19:45 |
| tomreyn | devslash: i don't know why it does this, but it's common to add the "nofail" mount option for external devices | 19:48 |
| ioria | devslash, probably wrong fstab line | 19:49 |
| devslash | Ioria ithis ftsab lone had been working for quite a while so it seems suspect that that's the problem | 19:50 |
| ioria | devslash, sudo findmnt --verify | 19:50 |
| devslash | Tomreyn I'm running an fsck on it but I will all no fail | 19:50 |
| devslash | This started when there was a power outage but I plugged the drive into another computer, mounted, and then i did fsck on it then. although it's slow to mount for some reason, no issues were found. | 19:52 |
| tomreyn | online fsck is a bad idea if you can do it offline | 19:53 |
| devslash | After commenting out the line in fstab it boots normally and I was able to mount it manually but again, it was slow | 19:53 |
| devslash | What do you mean online fsck ? | 19:54 |
| tomreyn | "I plugged the drive into another computer, mounted, and then i did fsck on it" | 19:54 |
| tomreyn | fsck while mount = "online" | 19:54 |
| tomreyn | fsck while mounted = "online" | 19:54 |
| devslash | Before I run fsck I unmount it | 19:54 |
| tomreyn | which file system is this? | 19:55 |
| devslash | Ext4 | 19:55 |
| tomreyn | and what kind of media? | 19:55 |
| devslash | All kinds | 19:55 |
| devslash | I added nofail and did mount -a and I'm just waiting now | 19:58 |
| tomreyn | a (blind) guess would be that it got physically damaged during the power outage and the fsck repaired the file system (somewhat?) but could not repair the physical damage which keeps breaking the file system becausenot all physically defective blocks have yet been marked as such. | 19:59 |
| devslash | Is there anything I can do | 19:59 |
| devslash | FWIW I can browse the file system just fine | 19:59 |
| devslash | Once I manually mount it | 19:59 |
| tomreyn | so what type of disk is this? | 20:00 |
| devslash | Usb drive | 20:00 |
| tomreyn | that's how it is connected, this says nothing about the storage technology | 20:00 |
| devslash | I don't know what you're asking | 20:00 |
| devslash | It has a mechanical drive inside of it | 20:01 |
| tomreyn | is it a hard disk, a cheap flash key, a proper flash storage as in ssd or nvme | 20:01 |
| TomBombadill | Hi, can I get some support? With Libre office Writer I'm encountering a problem: | 20:03 |
| TomBombadill | When I access the interface to write, if I press the mouse in the center, it opens what's underneath, as if it were a hologram! | 20:03 |
| TomBombadill | I made a video to explain better, can anyone help me? | 20:03 |
| TomBombadill | https://streamable.com/utz4fm | 20:03 |
| tomreyn | devslash: check your system log for any read / write errors. run ddrescue on the usb disk, either overwriting all blocks or creating an image of it. | 20:04 |
| devslash | System logs via dmesg ? | 20:04 |
| tomreyn | yes, or journalctl -kb | 20:04 |
| tomreyn | " media sense " messages point to such issues | 20:05 |
| tomreyn | or may | 20:05 |
| bprompt | devslash: I'd side with tomreyn on the power outage "guess", not too much of a guess, unless you're using an UPS or some decent power surcharge protection, hardware will be negatively affected during an outtage, it'd be a good idea to run a SMART check | 20:06 |
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| devslash | How so you do a smart check | 20:07 |
| bprompt | !smart | devslash | 20:07 |
| ubottu | devslash: smart is Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology, a monitoring system for hard drives. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools | 20:07 |
| bprompt | devslash: but hmmm don't understimate power outtages, they can toast a motherboard or a HDD in a zinch, reason many cord extensions come with power surcharge protection | 20:08 |
| devslash | I know but I can still read the files on it | 20:09 |
| bprompt | devslash: granted, so is not totally damaged if at all, HDD can be readable "until they are not" | 20:10 |
| devslash | The difference is its not mounting on this computer at the moment | 20:11 |
| tomreyn | what's the error message? | 20:11 |
| bprompt | devslash: hmmm are you using the correct UUID for it in fstab? maybe is the UUID | 20:11 |
| bprompt | !blkid | devslash | 20:12 |
| ubottu | devslash: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID) | 20:12 |
| devslash | I'm not using the uuid | 20:12 |
| devslash | In fstab | 20:12 |
| bprompt | devslash: hmmmm ohh this is a hotpluggable, hmm haven't bothered checking, but I think you can still use an UUID for it | 20:14 |
| tomreyn | not using the uuid may be why it fails to mount in the first place | 20:15 |
| devslash | No it's always sdb2 | 20:15 |
| devslash | If it was the wrong uuid it'd fail immediately bit that's not what it's doing | 20:16 |
| tomreyn | so when you manually try to mount the file system now, and it fails to do so, what's the error message? | 20:16 |
| tomreyn | you wrote "its not mounting on this computer at the moment", i assume this does not just refer to mounting on boot, right? | 20:17 |
| devslash | So I moved the usb plug to a different usb port and added nofail. It now boots up normally but doesn't mount the drive | 20:17 |
| bprompt | hmmm | 20:20 |
| devslash | Smartctl isn't working for me | 20:21 |
| devslash | Says scsi unsupported field in scsi command when I run smartctl -I /dev/sdbw | 20:22 |
| bprompt | devslash: changing the usbHDD to another port may simply account to a different slot location from where it was expected on fstab, which may account for the fast boot, the machine is booting fine "so long it doesn't have to try to mount a faulty" drive, and when it tries to do so, it takes a while, the delay possibly accounting for the "mount laboring" | 20:22 |
| devslash | Not in my case | 20:23 |
| devslash | It's still sdb2 no matter where it's plugged into | 20:23 |
| tomreyn | "/dev/sdbw"? | 20:23 |
| devslash | Yes | 20:24 |
| tomreyn | shouldn't this be /dev/sdb2 ? | 20:24 |
| tomreyn | actually /dev/sdb | 20:25 |
| devslash | Yea u made a typo | 20:25 |
| tomreyn | i quoted what you wrote | 20:25 |
| devslash | You said sdbw instead of sdb2 | 20:25 |
| devslash | Whatever ryou know what I mean | 20:25 |
| bprompt | devslash: with the usbHDD plugged in, what does the command "sudo blkid" show? | 20:25 |
| tomreyn | so the command you ran is? "sudo smartctl -I /dev/sdb"? | 20:26 |
| devslash | Shows my partitions with their block id | 20:26 |
| bprompt | devslash: may we see them? | 20:26 |
| devslash | No I have no way to do that | 20:26 |
| bprompt | !paste | devslash | 20:26 |
| ubottu | devslash: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 20:26 |
| devslash | No easy way to do that | 20:26 |
| devslash | I'd have to take a picture and upload it | 20:27 |
| bprompt | devslash: well, in a running system with wifi, is mostly a copy/paste gig | 20:27 |
| devslash | I can't do that right now | 20:27 |
| bprompt | devslash: no wifi? | 20:28 |
| devslash | Well it's connected to the internet buti have kb connected to it and there no gui | 20:28 |
| tomreyn | echo i am online | nc termbin.com 9999 | 20:29 |
| linuxian | hello guys | 20:29 |
| devslash | Besides there's no errors in the blkid output | 20:29 |
| linuxian | tomreyn what is that link | 20:29 |
| devslash | It's just my blk id's which are long hex strings | 20:29 |
| bprompt | devslash: so the system is booted, but no GUI? | 20:29 |
| devslash | No there's never been one ever on my machine | 20:29 |
| tomreyn | linuxian: a pastebin-like service, try it. | 20:30 |
| bprompt | devslash: this is the ubuntu-server running headless, right? | 20:30 |
| devslash | Yes | 20:30 |
| bprompt | !termbin | devslash | 20:31 |
| bprompt | woops, no alias for that | 20:31 |
| devslash | Why do you want to see my blkid so badly | 20:31 |
| devslash | There's nothing useful in that output | 20:31 |
| devslash | I'm not using my blk ID in fstab anyways | 20:32 |
| devslash | For this usb drive | 20:32 |
| ali1234 | cbreak: problem of sandboxed software not being able to access files is usually down to xdg-desktop-portal | 20:32 |
| bprompt | devslash: anyhow, whatever blkid output, is the devices and locations and UUID assigned to each, what tomreyn posted above, is you can use that pipe command to output text online | 20:32 |
| devslash | My blk id's aren't the issue here | 20:32 |
| ali1234 | cbreak: each desktop has a different implementation and if you are using certain flavours you might not have it installed at all | 20:33 |
| bprompt | devslash: well, then with the info provided, I'd side with the power outtage doing some type of damage to the usbHDD | 20:34 |
| devslash | My fstab looks like this : /dev/sdb2 /mnt/usb ext4 defaults, nofail 0 0 | 20:34 |
| tomreyn | devslash: i think the main issue is that you're not trying much of what is being suggested here, and provide too little information on what you do try for anyone to be able to support you. | 20:35 |
| devslash | I'm not convinced since I can totally access the files on this drive that it's toasted. It mounts on my ubuntu desktop | 20:35 |
| devslash | I've tried everything that I can | 20:35 |
| devslash | Some of those suggestions aren't working | 20:35 |
| tomreyn | "not working" is the worst way to provide feedback on a command you have run, and until now you had not even provided that feedback. | 20:36 |
| bprompt | devslash: I have mounted damaged drives from a "parted magic" iso and mount partitions and get files from them, or not even mount them, simply run a recovery on them to get files, nothing esoteric | 20:36 |
| tomreyn | try to explain what exactly you have tried, what exactly the outcome was, how you know that it did not succeed. | 20:37 |
| bprompt | devslash: so it can be damaged, and be mounted and accessed, as I said, if damaged, it'll damaged more on every powerup, and it'd be accessible "until is not" | 20:37 |
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| babula | i need to ask again, is there a tool for ubuntu to help with the two displays problem and programs opening in the secondary (wrong display)? maybe something you could use to move the windows to the main display. | 21:55 |
| oerheks | Move or resize a window using only the keyboard. Press Alt+F7 to move a window or Alt+F8 to resize. Use the arrow keys to move or resize, then press Enter to finish, or press Esc to return to the original position and size | 21:57 |
| oerheks | https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/shell-windows-states.html.en | 21:57 |
| tomreyn | you can also hold super and press cursor keys to move windows between certain positions | 22:03 |
| babula | oerheks: puuh, how do i choose a window that i cannot see from another display that's not turned on? | 22:06 |
| oerheks | on gnome you might be able to force mirror between displays, in settings, so all apps are on one | 22:08 |
| oerheks | you did not specify not turned on display | 22:08 |
| babula | oerheks: no, i don't want to mirror the displays. i thought people here understood it's a display that i cannot see where some of the program windows open. i just thought maybe there's a nifty tool for this! | 22:10 |
| oerheks | one could switch workplace, not to windows that are not turned on | 22:12 |
| oerheks | silly | 22:12 |
| babula | ? | 22:13 |
| babula | windows are turned on but the another display where they open is not! | 22:13 |
| tomreyn | babula: normally, screens which are connected but unpowered will not be used. however, since this does not seem to work there, you could also manually disable a screen (using the Settings GUI or xrandr), which should make all windows move to the remaining active screens. | 22:41 |
| tomreyn | also, you could just physically disconnect the screen not to be used | 22:41 |
| babula | tomreyn: mmh, i need it time to time, i don't really have an idea why some programs open their window(s) to the secondary display! | 23:11 |
| gaelheart | running 24.04 ... screen seems to randomly start flickering. if i just move the pointer it stops. ideas? this happens on x and wayland. gnome and plasma. i have a lenovo thinkpad t480 laptop | 23:18 |
| oerheks | thinkpad t480 with what GPU? | 23:20 |
| gaelheart | Intel® Core™ i7-8650U × 8 & Intel® UHD Graphics 620 (KBL GT2) | 23:22 |
| oerheks | few hints here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1404771/screen-flicker-after-fresh-install-of-ubuntu-22-04 | 23:24 |
| oerheks | GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="i915.enable_psr=0" and intel_idle.max_cstate=4 | 23:25 |
| gaelheart | thank you | 23:25 |
| oerheks | and in the beginning; i915.enable_dc=0 intel_idle.max_cstate=2 .. | 23:25 |
| gaelheart | k | 23:26 |
| oerheks | bugreport like your issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/2062951 | 23:26 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2062951 in linux (Ubuntu) "Random flickering with Intel i915 on Linux 6.8 (Ubuntu 24.04)" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 23:26 | |
| gaelheart | k | 23:26 |
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| WaV | When 22.04 first came out, I had the same issue. I have hybrid graphics. The fix was the same though. | 23:45 |
| Diagon | Anyone have experience with snd_hda_intel driver? Boot fail@ "snd_hda_intel 0000:00:03.0: HSW/BDW HD-audio HDMI/DP requires binding with gfx driver." snd_intel_dspcfg isn't helping. | 23:58 |
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