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| gaelheart | when i close my laptop lid my ubuntu (i use plasma with gdm) suspends automatically. then when i open the lid i am at the lock screen. after i enter my password the screen unlocks and im back to my desktop. what i want to do is run an app after i unlock the pc not at startup/login. how can i do that? i cant find a solution online. | 00:25 |
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| oerheks | gaelheart, this looks interesting https://askubuntu.com/questions/92218/how-to-execute-a-command-after-resume-from-suspend/1041358#1041358 | 00:32 |
| oerheks | for systemd | 00:32 |
| gaelheart | yeah quite interesting. thanks oerheks | 00:34 |
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| sdragon | Okay, back | 03:10 |
| sdragon | leftyfb: you still around? | 03:23 |
| sdragon | I tried the default full-disk install, like you said | 03:25 |
| sdragon | It didn't work | 03:25 |
| ncurs3s | Long shot, but does anyone have the Ubuntu terminal color scheme as a .Xresources theme? | 04:11 |
| ncurs3s | Not sure if Ubuntu has updated the default color scheme in the terminal recently but I'm talking about the one with "Dark aubergine"/#2C001E as background | 04:14 |
| shadowhawk | anyone alive? | 06:13 |
| lotuspsychje | !ask | shadowhawk | 06:14 |
| ubottu | shadowhawk: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 06:14 |
| depesz | hi. i don't have ubuntu installed, but just quick question - what is the default email client in ubuntu? i can't seem to find this info with duckduckgo :( | 06:38 |
| Bashing-om | !info thunderbird | depesz | 06:40 |
| ubottu | depesz: thunderbird (2:1snap1-0ubuntu3, noble): Transitional package - thunderbird -> thunderbird snap. In component main, is optional. Built by thunderbird. Size 25 kB / 71 kB. (Only available for amd64, arm64.) | 06:40 |
| depesz | ok. thx. last time i was testing gnome env, it weas something built for them, liek evolution or something. | 06:41 |
| Bashing-om | depesz: evolution is still available. | 06:43 |
| depesz | yeah, but i am just curous about defaulyt. thunderbird caught me by surprise :) | 06:44 |
| ice9 | on 24.04, do you get this if you do "apt update", "apt upgrade" ? https://pastebin.mozilla.org/kLTGUeac | 06:45 |
| rfm | ice9, phasing's different for everybody, it's a die roll, so chances are nobody will see exactly what you do. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhasedUpdates | 07:09 |
| ice9 | rfm, what about kept back? | 07:10 |
| ice9 | it's been a month for these packages as kept back | 07:10 |
| rfm | ice9, hmm. I could expect upgrades to be kept back waiting for a phased one, but not for a month.. Did you try a full-upgrade? | 07:11 |
| ice9 | rfm, you mean "do-release-upgrade"? | 07:12 |
| ice9 | rfm, oh apt full-upgrade, wow it's upgrading those packages now! | 07:13 |
| ice9 | what's the difference? | 07:13 |
| rfm | ice9, no, just "apt full-upgrade" . What it does is allow apt to remove old versions of packages that conflict. | 07:13 |
| rfm | ice9 usualy it's not required because the ubuntu Stable Release Upgrades process keeps disruptive updates from coming in. Was this system installed from a beta or nightly devel ISO? | 07:17 |
| ice9 | rfm, yeah, I upgraded 23.10 to 24.10 beta | 07:18 |
| rfm | ice9, I did install the beta, and I do remember having to do a full-upgrade at one point... | 07:19 |
| lotuspsychje | !phasedupdates | ice9 | 07:28 |
| ubottu | ice9: Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT may hold back some updates on some systems while they are being phased in. This is called "phased updates". See https://ubottu.com/y/phased and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info. | 07:28 |
| babula | anyone want to help me with a really simple linux question? how do i sort of batch download with this downloading tool, so that i don't need to download the files one commandline by one, i thought && after the command would work so that i could add another commandline to download the next thing. | 08:47 |
| lotuspsychje | babula: what exactly did you type for command? | 08:48 |
| babula | lotuspsychje: i don't know why are you asking, but the commandline's like this: yle-dl --sublang all --resolution 576 https://areena.yle.fi/1-507791 | 08:50 |
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| pagios | hi guys, i am writing in markdown language, and i need a tool that can take that markdown/html/pdf/orwhatever_is_generated_from markdown and add a custom header/footer to each page generated. do you know any nice way to do this ? that would save me time styling the header and footer. header can contain logo, data, page number, footer can contain for example type of document, athor etc | 10:25 |
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| test925 | ubuntu 23.10 is letting me know an upgrade to 24.04 is available. is it safe to go ahead or shoul i wait longer? | 10:38 |
| pagios | i have header.pdf and footer.pdf and i have my markdown.pdf, i want to ADD header.pdf and footer.pdf to each PAGE of the markdown.pdf what tool can i use to do this? | 10:55 |
| tomreyn | test925: there's no formal reason to wait longer once it's supported (and, yes, 23.10->24.04 is now supported). however, discoverers of new worlds and early software (upgrade path) adopters always have a slightly higher risk to hit the unknown. | 11:59 |
| test925 | tomreyn, thanks. I've been through it many times without issues but I heard there were issues with upgrades awhile back. I'll probably do it. | 12:00 |
| tomreyn | i think that (almost) anyone who runs into upgrade issues does so because they run upgrades before it's supported and / or because they're upgrading something which is not pure ubuntu, i.e. have third party packages (or package versions) and apt repositories installed. | 12:02 |
| test925 | I don't really know what this concept of "supported" is here. But I do have thrid party packages installed. | 12:03 |
| tomreyn | effictively it means that the upgrade path has been tested, blocking bugs have been ironed out | 12:03 |
| GeekDaD | @tomreyn: the scope of the thing is to be able to run FOSS software in a system though, Are you meaning that to say individuals shouldn't expect reliable behaviour from the core system if they deviate "out of the box"? Or are you speaking from experience surrounding upgrades? | 12:04 |
| tomreyn | and, for 23.10 -> 24.04, that the 'noble' paragraph was added to https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release | 12:04 |
| tomreyn | GeekDaD: deviating from 'out of the box' is obviously fine, you can install any packages in main and restricted sections, and those in universe are usually fine, too. | 12:06 |
| tomreyn | plus there's snap which provides many other softwares | 12:06 |
| test925 | got it, thanks | 12:06 |
| test925 | that's actually the first time I've ever seen that file | 12:06 |
| GeekDaD | tomreyn: I'm confused then, what do you mean then? I ask because in my experience failed upgrades have come from a wide variety of reasons including modification of configuration files where the updated package has changed a function, to really old hardware, and down to corrupted or inaccessible apt repositories, but not often have if ever have I witnessed what you've expressed | 12:08 |
| tomreyn | GeekDaD: my personal experience is that release upgrades *may* (sometimes) not succeed if third party apt repositories or packages (or package versions) are installed. it's untested terrain, of course, because the possible combinations are endless. so you'd be on your own. | 12:08 |
| GeekDaD | tomreyn: ahh, I think I understand, so you're meaning that if an individual deviates from the standard package(aka. switching core repos) it can't be assumed or imposed that it's "supported"? is that right? | 12:09 |
| tomreyn | test925: it's what upgrade-manager / do-release-upgrade uses to check whether you have a supported 'Normal' (non LTS) upgrade path. | 12:10 |
| tomreyn | GeekDaD: yes, that's once way to make upgrades difficult. anything that makes it difficult for the apt dependency resolver, really. | 12:11 |
| GeekDaD | I think that's fair, and I agree, to provide adequate support to an entire community it can't be every box is unique and independent, there is a "standard" to be adhered to if people want to obtain support down the road. Or, figure it out on their own. Thank-You for clarifying | 12:12 |
| tomreyn | GeekDaD: so, to clarify, i don't mean (just) "packages that are pre-installed", but (all the) "packages that are available from the pre-installed ubuntu apt repositories" will be fine. | 12:13 |
| tomreyn | ... but those from other apt repositories and PPAs may make release upgrades fail due to them (potentially) introducing unresolvable package or version dependencies | 12:14 |
| GeekDaD | tomreyn: absolutely, I inherently assume if it's packaged with a distro that it would be supported. But I always try to be realistic about the ask for support as I recognize and want to be respectful of individuals efforts in helping | 12:14 |
| tomreyn | i see a lot of failed release upgrades in the form of bug reports really, and i think many of those could be prevented by the Ubuntu project communicating these limitations more clearly. | 12:16 |
| tomreyn | (but it's also a users' obligation to inform themselves on this) | 12:17 |
| GeekDaD | I'll admit, I'm not so familiar with the process to validate in the debian side of things, in rhel however I know you can utilize rpm to get the list of files that deviate from the original package. Overall however I think the output and logging offered directly from apt, or alternately through journald have always allowed me to iscolate any misbehaving stuffs | 12:17 |
| JanC | maybe they need to add an expert mode that allows manually resolving some conflicts, and/or suggest doing the upgrade using another tool when people have a more custom setup... | 12:18 |
| GeekDaD | JanC: it's all expert mode if you know where to look | 12:18 |
| tomreyn | debsums would eb a tool to validate derivation of installed packages | 12:22 |
| tomreyn | s/validate/check for/ | 12:22 |
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| ice9 | do-release-upgrade on 22.04 doesn't show 24.04, any idea? | 12:54 |
| ice9 | ah i think it should wait until 24.04.1? | 12:55 |
| leftyfb | ice9: yes | 12:56 |
| SomeDamnBody | hello | 14:08 |
| SomeDamnBody | is any body familiar with cannot send to nick/channel | 14:08 |
| SomeDamnBody | ? | 14:08 |
| SomeDamnBody | I can't talk on #go-nuts | 14:08 |
| SomeDamnBody | I think it is anti spam measure | 14:08 |
| lotuspsychje | !libera | SomeDamnBody | 14:09 |
| ubottu | SomeDamnBody: Libera is the IRC network that you're on! See https://libera.chat/about - Libera has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at https://libera.chat/policies - The Ubuntu channels on Libera also have their own !Guidelines | 14:09 |
| lotuspsychje | join #libera for that question SomeDamnBody | 14:10 |
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| nwoob | Hello, last night when i was trying to shutdown my system it said about some transaction pending and I still shutdown. Now while booting up it has error as | 14:22 |
| nwoob | Failed to start default target: Transaction for.graphical.target/start is destructive | 14:22 |
| nwoob | can someone please guide me how to fix this | 14:22 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 14:27 |
| fuxaches | nwoob, you could try fsck /dev/whateveryourdisknameis | 14:28 |
| nwoob | how to know my diskname? | 14:30 |
| nwoob | fuxaches: | 14:30 |
| fuxaches | nwoob, sudo lsblk -o NAME,FSTYPE,SIZE,MOUNTPOINT,LABEL would prolly be the easiet way to see which partitions are what. | 14:34 |
| nwoob | so NAME would be the diskname? | 14:35 |
| CosmicDJ | fsck'ing a mounted disk/device will do more harm than good though | 14:36 |
| fuxaches | nwoob, yes like sda -> sda1 (swap), etc | 14:36 |
| fuxaches | nwoob, is your system dual boot? | 14:36 |
| nwoob | no fuxaches | 14:37 |
| nwoob | this is the output fuxaches https://imgur.com/a/TyJHibr | 14:43 |
| fuxaches | nwoob, CosmicDJ is right, but about it may pose more problems but your only other choice would be to re-install Linux or you could also try xfs_check, but that would be even more dangerous. | 14:45 |
| nwoob | just run command xfs_check? | 14:47 |
| nwoob | CosmicDJ: could you help | 14:50 |
| fuxaches | nwoob, that responsse means you should look at the condition of the drive with either the disks utility or smartctl | 14:50 |
| nwoob | I don't know how to do that | 14:52 |
| nwoob | I'm a noob in linux | 14:52 |
| nwoob | I thought I would get help here | 14:52 |
| batbat | What are you looking for? | 14:53 |
| nwoob | batbat: on boot I have error You are in emergency mode. | 14:55 |
| nwoob | batbat: like this https://imgur.com/a/4uw2j0M | 14:56 |
| nwoob | j #linux | 14:58 |
| batbat | @nwoob I might be able to help you. | 14:59 |
| nwoob | please batbat | 15:00 |
| nwoob | batbat: | 15:00 |
| tomreyn | nwoob: for linux distributions other than ubuntu, you can usually get support in #linux. some of the other large distros also have dedicated volunteer support channels. | 15:03 |
| nwoob | tomreyn: but pop_os is based on ubuntu, so i thought to get help here | 15:07 |
| tomreyn | nwoob: we only support ubuntu here, really. ubuntu is 'based on debian' but you won't get support for it in #debian either. | 15:23 |
| younder | The real difference between Ubuntu and Debian is the network setup. For many other things they are similar. | 15:46 |
| younder | Also Debian doesn't like snaps. | 15:47 |
| lotuspsychje | younder: lets not discuss this here | 15:53 |
| ananke | with ubuntu 24.04 removing resolvconf package, what would be now the supported way to set arbitrary ndots:X option for the system resolver? systemd-resolved does not support it | 16:00 |
| ioria | no idea, maybe a netplan config | 16:01 |
| ananke | netplan doesn't seem to be a solution, because it defers to systemd-resolved | 16:03 |
| ioria | ananke, i can just link you this, but as i said, really never tried to set it: https://github.com/bottlerocket-os/bottlerocket/issues/3543 | 16:10 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Issue 3543 in bottlerocket-os/bottlerocket "Ability to set ndots in /etc/resolv.conf" [Open] | 16:10 | |
| ananke | ioria: thanks. I was looking at this https://askubuntu.com/questions/1274055/how-do-i-configure-the-ndots-option-in-etc-resolv-conf-from-netplan , where the consensus was that it was not possible | 16:15 |
| ananke | ioria: and your link seems to be specific to kubernetes config | 16:15 |
| ananke | I'm really dreading the possibility of having to package and wedge resolvconf into 24.04. resolvconf approach worked ubuntu 16 through 22, and we use it extensively in other distros for that purpose. may need to open a ticket and see what the devs say | 16:19 |
| jaco | i pls need a solution to this problem | 17:08 |
| lotuspsychje | ask your question here jaco | 17:09 |
| jaco | https://imgur.com/xnK5zTr | 17:09 |
| jaco | i pls need a solution to this problem | 17:09 |
| jaco | my desktop does not showa | 17:10 |
| jaco | my desktop does not show after an upgrade | 17:10 |
| oerheks | lunar, is eol, dead jim | 17:11 |
| oerheks | upgrade please | 17:11 |
| oerheks | !lunar | 17:11 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 23.04 (Lunar Lobster) was the 38th release of Ubuntu, support ended on January 25, 2024. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2023-December/000297.html | 17:11 |
| oerheks | !eolupgrade | 17:11 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 17:11 |
| jaco | thank u ubottu how do i get a step by step giude to upgrade please | 17:15 |
| oerheks | see the last url? | 17:17 |
| oerheks | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 17:17 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 17:17 |
| lotuspsychje | jaco: just keep in mind, upgrading from eol releases 'may' have security risks, see !usn | 17:18 |
| jaco | https://imgur.com/undefined | 17:18 |
| jaco | this is what i get | 17:19 |
| lotuspsychje | bad url jaco | 17:19 |
| jaco | its not upgrading | 17:19 |
| oerheks | i would download a fresh 24.04 and do a reinstall | 17:20 |
| vortexx | jaco: do-release-upgrade from the command-line should work | 17:21 |
| oerheks | should work? | 17:22 |
| jaco | vortexx: how do i do release line | 17:23 |
| vortexx | jaco: open terminal, then type sudo do-release-upgrade | 17:23 |
| jaco | oertheks: i am running a duall boot n it will be a big job | 17:24 |
| oerheks | if you do the old-release trick with your sources list, you could. | 17:24 |
| vortexx | oerheks: I forgot 23.10 is still supported so even going to that will work | 17:24 |
| tomreyn | oerheks: looks like mantic is still on archive.ubuntu.com | 17:24 |
| oerheks | the url is pretty clear, and used by 1000s | 17:24 |
| jaco | oerhks: please give me a step by step process | 17:24 |
| oerheks | lunar, tomreyn | 17:25 |
| tomreyn | right, lunar is | 17:25 |
| oerheks | jaco, we wrote it down, not to repeat it | 17:25 |
| tomreyn | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lunar-updates/ | 17:25 |
| tomreyn | hmm it's also on old-releases, though, so i'm not sure whether or not it was moved | 17:26 |
| vortexx | jaco: as posted above, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades provides step by step instructions on what to do | 17:27 |
| tomreyn | hmm no i'm wrong, lunar archives are ot on old-releases | 17:27 |
| tomreyn | *not | 17:27 |
| jaco | https://imgur.com/jy8U1nL | 17:27 |
| jaco | this is what i am getting | 17:27 |
| jaco | ple bare with me not good with ubuntu | 17:27 |
| jaco | what do i do on the page? | 17:28 |
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| tomreyn | jaco: you need to fix the 3rd party repositories you have configured. some of them no longer work / are broken | 17:29 |
| tomreyn | also you have a dangerous mix of different release names from ubuntu and debian configured | 17:29 |
| tomreyn | so a fresh install is probably the best idea | 17:30 |
| vortexx | tomreyn: doesn't do-release-upgrade disable that for you? It did for me in the past | 17:30 |
| oerheks | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#Update_sources.list and hope for the best | 17:30 |
| tomreyn | it disables enabled 3rd party repositories, it does not remove / downgrade packages installed from those | 17:30 |
| tomreyn | there's currently no need to change sources.list on lunar from what i can tell, oerheks | 17:31 |
| oerheks | that url does not exist, again | 17:31 |
| tomreyn | oerheks: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lunar-updates/ exists, but there is no 'lunar' here: https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ | 17:32 |
| oerheks | tomreyn, then do-release-upgrade could work? not sure now | 17:32 |
| jaco | the commands are not working in terminal for me | 17:32 |
| tomreyn | oerheks: until repos are moved, yes | 17:32 |
| tomreyn | but jaco has issues with 3rd party repos | 17:33 |
| tomreyn | once those are solved, do.release-upgrade should work | 17:33 |
| tomreyn | (as long as the dependency resolver is able to resolve this upgrade when third party packages/versions are still installed) | 17:34 |
| tomreyn | jaco: as a minumum, you will need to move out of the way, or delete, your micahflee/ppa apt yource configuration which is likely stored in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 17:36 |
| tomreyn | yource -> source | 17:36 |
| oerheks | indeed, there are no packages installed from micahflee jammy .. so disabling is enough | 17:37 |
| oerheks | waydro.id bullseye worries me | 17:37 |
| oerheks | i would download a fresh 24.04 and do a reinstall, seen your name so often, i wonder why you never updated | 17:38 |
| jaco | still not making headway with the information. How do i pleasew go about it step by step in terminal | 17:38 |
| jaco | oerheks: i run a dual boot | 17:39 |
| tomreyn | yes, do a fresh install, your outcome will be better | 17:39 |
| jaco | okay. will i loode my windows | 17:39 |
| lotuspsychje | jaco: next time upgrade 'before' your release goes eol | 17:40 |
| jaco | so what iso version should i install? | 17:40 |
| jaco | *download | 17:40 |
| tomreyn | 24.04 lts seems to have some issues with custom installations, i'm not sure how well that would work for installing side by side with windows on the same disk | 17:41 |
| vortexx | jaco: a fresh install will detect that you dual boot and handle it. | 17:41 |
| vortexx | 23.10 is still available | 17:41 |
| jaco | okay | 17:41 |
| jaco | 23.10 | 17:41 |
| vortexx | jaco: you're using grub as a bootloader to select which OS to boot? | 17:42 |
| jaco | yes i use grub | 17:42 |
| vortexx | ok you'll be fine then | 17:43 |
| jaco | can i download this version Ubuntu 24.04 LTS | 17:44 |
| vortexx | you can but it's reported to have issues at the moment | 17:44 |
| vortexx | https://gsl-syd.mm.fcix.net/ubuntu-releases/23.10.1/ 23.10.1 is here (I presume you're in Australia, this is a mirror local to you) | 17:45 |
| gonzalezs | hola mundo | 17:45 |
| tomreyn | i think i would create a 24.04 lts desktop installer usb stick, backup /home and any other configurations / data / files you might still need, then wipefs all ubuntu partitions (or, at least, delete the partitions) and the ubuntu directory off the esp, and boot the installer in (likely) uefi mode. | 17:45 |
| tomreyn | !es | hola gonzalezs | 17:46 |
| ubottu | hola gonzalezs: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 17:46 |
| jaco | vortexx yes i am in Australia | 17:46 |
| gonzalezs | ahhh ok sorry | 17:46 |
| tomreyn | no worries gonzalezs | 17:46 |
| jaco | tomreyn: u recommend i install 24.10 lts? | 17:47 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure 24.04 installer is gonna like dualboot manualy fiddling | 17:48 |
| jaco | then i will do the 23.10 lts | 17:48 |
| vortexx | update-grub with os-prober will pick up other OSes and add them to the boot menu | 17:48 |
| vortexx | although I haven't tested with 24.04 | 17:49 |
| oerheks | no, os-prober is standard disabled. | 17:49 |
| oerheks | https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/12/grub-doesnt-detect-windows-linux-distros-fix | 17:50 |
| vortexx | jaco: 23.10 isn't LTS, support for it expires soon but it'll work for now. You can upgrade to 24.04 from that when the system prompts you to | 17:50 |
| oerheks | but that is a worrie for after installing ubuntu side-by-side windows | 17:50 |
| jaco | thank you to all of you mates | 17:50 |
| vortexx | easy enough to fix then oerheks | 17:51 |
| vortexx | so long as you're comfortable editing /etc/default/grub | 17:51 |
| vortexx | jaco: thank us when you manage to do the fresh install | 17:51 |
| tomreyn | 23.10 -> 24.10 is available since 21 May 2024 21:43:03 GMT | 17:52 |
| jaco | i will mate | 17:52 |
| tomreyn | i'd still go for 24.04 directly | 17:52 |
| vortexx | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/2065938 mh my bug is still listed as new and unassigned :/ | 17:56 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2065938 in linux (Ubuntu) "QCA6390 won't work with any kernel above 5.15 in 22.04" [Undecided, New] | 17:56 | |
| lotuspsychje | vortexx: the best way to get attention to your bug(s) is finding more people to confirm/affect it and start doing tests yourself aswell | 18:08 |
| oerheks | ubuntu firmware update > sudo service fwupd start && sudo fwupdmgr refresh ; after this sudo fwupdmgr update | 18:08 |
| oerheks | that is, if you got the latest firmware update package | 18:09 |
| vortexx | lotuspsychje: I tested Fedora Desktop with 6.8 kernel and wifi worked on that, I added that info to the bug tracker | 18:09 |
| oerheks | some posts say after installing, disable BT in the bios, and back on to make it work | 18:10 |
| oerheks | maybe a weird UEFI hook? | 18:10 |
| lotuspsychje | vortexx: if you can reproduce that on ubuntu 6.8 kernel or higher, you can always have a talk with the #ubuntu-kernel crew | 18:11 |
| vortexx | oerheks: I ran the fwupdmgr but that doesn't list my wifi+bt adapter as part of the firmware supported | 18:12 |
| tomreyn | https://git.codelinaro.org/clo/ath-firmware/ath11k-firmware has the latest loadable firmware for it in case you need something newer than what's available in 22.04's linux-firmware. the latest QCA6390 hw2.0: is already 2 years old, though, so you likely have that already. | 18:12 |
| vortexx | lotuspsychje: 6.8 in ubuntu doesn't work. If you disable bluetooth sometimes the wifi works but if I have both enabled they'll take turns bugging out and I really bluetooth for my workflow | 18:13 |
| lotuspsychje | vortexx: maybe 6.9 from !mainline then? | 18:13 |
| lotuspsychje | or something in between | 18:13 |
| vortexx | tomreyn: I've already done the step to upgrade manually the firmware in /lib/firmware | 18:14 |
| vortexx | lotuspsychje: I'll try 6.9 but I can't use mainline as I'm on ZFS | 18:14 |
| oerheks | good luck, i find no more tips | 18:17 |
| oerheks | putting an older firmware back is of no use, i guess | 18:18 |
| lotuspsychje | vortexx: the kernel devs will be needing official ubuntu kernels and will be interested in between wich kernels your bug lays | 18:18 |
| tomreyn | replacing the HW module, if it is one, might be another option | 18:18 |
| oerheks | +1 | 18:18 |
| oerheks | i rip those all out, wifi modules from trash laptops. and do a dance when it is intel | 18:19 |
| lotuspsychje | or keep using the 5.15 series | 18:19 |
| lotuspsychje | i wonder if it shows on !hardware | 18:22 |
| lotuspsychje | !hardware | 18:22 |
| ubottu | For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection | 18:22 |
| vortexx | tomreyn: can't do that, it's soldered on on this XPS 13 9310 ultra laptop | 18:22 |
| vortexx | 5.15 will continue to work for me, it's just I can't upgrade from 22.04 to any other releases till a fix is found | 18:23 |
| tomreyn | well, it's supposedly supported since 5.10 https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath11k if you have QCA6390 hw2.0, so if it doesn'T work in later Ubuntu it does seem like a regresison | 18:23 |
| vortexx | yes, 5.10 is when it started working, I was running nightly builds November 2020, around Feb 2021 5.10 landed which provided initial support although suspend didn't work, requiring power off then boot (reboot would sometimes fail to init the firmware). 5.11 landed around March 2021 and that solved all issues | 18:26 |
| vortexx | apt doesn't find a 5.16 kernel for 22.04, I wonder if it started with that... 5.17 certainly fails | 18:26 |
| lotuspsychje | !22.04 | 18:27 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy Jellyfish) is the 36th release of Ubuntu and an !LTS release – Download at https://ubuntu.com/download :: Release notes at https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/jammy-jellyfish-release-notes :: Further schedule at https://ubottu.com/y/jj | 18:27 |
| vortexx | s/running nightly builds November 2020/running nightly builds from November 2020 | 18:27 |
| tomreyn | Each LTS release provides two general kernel versions (GA + HWE), possibly another as an untested backport. | 18:28 |
| tomreyn | 24.04 LTS doesn't provide a HWE kernel, yet | 18:28 |
| sasha_ | l;l | 18:29 |
| vortexx | I really should have waited for the linux edition of the 9310 which has the AX210 instead of the AX500. Oh well :P | 18:30 |
| oerheks | maybe you can replace it | 18:32 |
| vortexx | Nah I can live on 22.04 for another 3 years if need be | 18:32 |
| vortexx | I really don't want to change laptops till at least next year, I'll replace the battery probably early next year. I'm in the process of moving homes to a much larger apartment and it's going to use all my monthly budget up for the foreseeable future. I would like to help get this bug fixed though | 18:34 |
| vortexx | I think I'll try installing 22.04 with ext4 onto a usb stick and booting that, and add a mainline 5.16 kernel and a 6.9 one too to see what the results are. | 18:36 |
| nwoob | bluetooth is not turning on in my ubuntu 24.04LTS, when i try to toggle on the bluetooth nothing happens | 18:37 |
| vortexx | nwoob: what's the hardware? | 18:37 |
| nwoob | i tried sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade | 18:37 |
| nwoob | sudo systemctl start bluetooth | 18:37 |
| nwoob | rfkill unblock bluetooth | 18:37 |
| nwoob | vortexx: t14 gen4 | 18:38 |
| nwoob | AMD | 18:38 |
| vortexx | does rfkill list the bluetooth interface as blocked? | 18:39 |
| nwoob | no it shows bluetooth as unblocked | 18:40 |
| nwoob | for both soft and hard | 18:40 |
| oerheks | i use bluez for connectivity scan, setup, and trust devices | 18:40 |
| vortexx | is your wifi adapter using the ath11k driver? | 18:41 |
| nwoob | vortexx: how to check that? | 18:42 |
| vortexx | nwoob: lsmod | grep ath11k | 18:43 |
| nwoob | yes | 18:44 |
| nwoob | configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath11k_pci driverversion=6.8.0-31-generic firmware=N/A | 18:45 |
| nwoob | description: Wireless interface | 18:45 |
| vortexx | welcome to the club of ath11k causing issues :) | 18:45 |
| nwoob | well is there some solution? | 18:45 |
| oerheks | ubuntu firmware update > sudo service fwupd start && sudo fwupdmgr refresh ; after this sudo fwupdmgr update | 18:45 |
| vortexx | try turning the laptop off and then power on again, sometimes that works for me. Which version of ubuntu are you on? | 18:46 |
| vortexx | (probably 24.04 if you're on 6.8.0-31) | 18:46 |
| nwoob | yes 24.04, but i have restarted it many times. does not work | 18:47 |
| vortexx | and wifi works fine? | 18:47 |
| nwoob | yes | 18:47 |
| vortexx | did bluetooth work in previous releases for you? | 18:47 |
| nwoob | this is my first install on this system | 18:47 |
| vortexx | your hw is listed as certified: https://ubuntu.com/certified/202309-32034/22.04%20LTS | 18:48 |
| nwoob | previosuly i was using pop_os because when i purchsed this thinkpad then ubuntu was not working properly | 18:48 |
| nwoob | i installed ubuntu an hour ago | 18:48 |
| nwoob | yes hw is listed | 18:49 |
| vortexx | could you try 22.04 just to see if that works for you? | 18:49 |
| vortexx | if this is a fresh install | 18:49 |
| nwoob | 22.04? i have 22.04 | 18:50 |
| nwoob | oh sorry | 18:50 |
| tomreyn | vortexx: i just looked over your 6.8 kernel log. you have your firmware crashing during wireless association: [ 28.473057] ath11k_pci 0000:72:00.0: firmware crashed: MHI_CB_EE_RDDM | 18:51 |
| nwoob | when I first purchased this thinkpad then i tried 22.04 but it had issues like during install start went to blank screen so cannot install 22.04 | 18:52 |
| vortexx | do you have the 5.15 kernel in /boot by any chance? If not, sudo apt install linux-image-5.15.0-107-generic linux-modules-extra-5.15.0-107-generic and try booting into that to see if bluetooth works? | 18:52 |
| nwoob | uname -r output | 18:53 |
| nwoob | 6.8.0-31-generic | 18:53 |
| vortexx | tomreyn: yes I know | 18:53 |
| tomreyn | okay, i just throught i'd point it out since this line is easily missed | 18:53 |
| vortexx | tomreyn: it does that on every kernel above 5.15 apart from 5.17 which claims that rfkill hw switch is on (there is no such device on this laptop) | 18:53 |
| tomreyn | https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=218450 discusses similar | 18:54 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- bugzilla.kernel.org bug 218450 in Drivers "ath11k_pci 0000:02:00.0: firmware crashed: MHI_CB_EE_RDDM" [Normal, New] | 18:54 | |
| younder | 6.8 is the 24.04 kernel | 18:54 |
| nwoob | yes I have 24.04 installed younder | 18:54 |
| vortexx | nwoob: ok you are on 24.04. Would you mind testing 22.04 to see if that works any better ? Maybe the issue you had in the past has been resolved now. I'm curious to see if both wifi and bluetooth work on that release for you. | 18:58 |
| nwoob | ok let me try | 18:58 |
| nwoob | also what is ubuntu pro? | 18:58 |
| nwoob | is it worth getting? i can see it is free | 19:00 |
| oerheks | !pro | 19:02 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu Pro is a service offered by Canonical for expanded CVE patching, ten-years security maintenance and optional support. Anyone can use Ubuntu Pro for free for personal use on up to 5 machines. For details please see https://ubuntu.com/pro and https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq | 19:02 |
| oerheks | for LTS | 19:02 |
| nwoob | if i get ubuntu pro and then ask them to check why is my bluetooth not working, will they help :P | 19:03 |
| GeekDaD | nwoob: to a point, but that's not a guarantee, especially given that bluetooth devices are a dime a dozen | 19:05 |
| nwoob | now bluetooth worked in ubuntu 22.04 | 19:44 |
| oerheks | !yay | 19:45 |
| ubottu | Glad you made it! :-) | 19:45 |
| vortexx | nwoob: glad that fixed it. Maybe you'd like to try upgrading release to release to see when it breaks? Or maybe install one of the supported kernels for 22.04 (5.17, 6.2, 6.5) ? | 19:47 |
| nwoob | yes will try that | 19:49 |
| nwoob | which adblock do you guys use for firefox? | 19:51 |
| TuxDavis | im using Debian 12 now | 19:52 |
| TuxDavis | its much better | 19:52 |
| TuxDavis | no problems at all | 19:52 |
| TuxDavis | a lot less bload | 19:52 |
| TuxDavis | bloat* | 19:52 |
| leftyfb | TuxDavis: great, feel free to discuss in #debian or #linux | 19:52 |
| TuxDavis | I was a Ubuntu actulite for 6 years | 19:52 |
| TuxDavis | i recommed everyone switches | 19:53 |
| TuxDavis | <3 | 19:53 |
| nwoob | no thanks | 19:53 |
| TuxDavis | why not? | 19:53 |
| leftyfb | TuxDavis: lets not. Feel free to take it to #linux | 19:53 |
| nwoob | i'm happy with what i have | 19:53 |
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| nwoob | fractional scaling 125% is too large and 100% is small | 19:57 |
| nwoob | is there a mid way? | 19:57 |
| lotuspsychje | nwoob: enable fractional scaling and you can use other % too | 19:59 |
| leftyfb | lotuspsychje: 125% is fractional scaling | 20:00 |
| lotuspsychje | i got it on 150% on noble here leftyfb | 20:01 |
| lotuspsychje | oh he wants between 100 and 125 | 20:01 |
| lotuspsychje | not sure dconf does that in between | 20:01 |
| nwoob | yeah, when i use 100% everything becomes too small. and 125% makes it too big | 20:03 |
| nwoob | so thought to sak if there is something in middle, guess i have to use 100% | 20:03 |
| oerheks | use 125 and select smaller fonts | 20:03 |
| leftyfb | play around with different resolutions and scales | 20:03 |
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| test925 | is there a way to save a list of all the applications to be removed when upgrading to 24.04? | 22:23 |
| test925 | I assume the upgrade would not remove configuration files of removed applications? | 22:24 |
| oerheks | as do-release-upgrade has no -dry-run option, i see no way to log else than the log in terminal | 22:28 |
| LuckyMan | test925, snaps aren't removed, most .deb is upgraded, I guess mostly ppa apps are removed | 22:28 |
| test925 | can I count on this not touching config files? | 22:29 |
| oerheks | i think so, yes. | 22:30 |
| LuckyMan | test925, you nevertheless should wait for August when point release comes out | 22:30 |
| test925 | LuckyMan, why? | 22:30 |
| LuckyMan | upgrading now can lead into trouble | 22:30 |
| LuckyMan | it's better to backup and do a fresh install | 22:31 |
| test925 | but I've been running into bugs for every ubuntu release for the entirety of my time using them until next upgrade | 22:31 |
| test925 | I have bad bugs *right now*. Upgrading might fix them. | 22:32 |
| LuckyMan | better a fresh install | 22:32 |
| test925 | even if it does, I will surely get new ones | 22:32 |
| LuckyMan | allways do a backup | 22:32 |
| oerheks | We do not think it is wise, to do the -d option for now, but if you do, prepare a fresh 24.04 usb first | 22:34 |
| LuckyMan | this ^^ | 22:34 |
| test925 | I got a notification that an upgrade is available | 22:35 |
| test925 | https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release shows there is an upgrade path, as I was told earlier | 22:35 |
| leftyfb | always have a backup plan(USB installer) and a backup of the files you care about | 22:36 |
| oerheks | oh good, thanks for showing, indeed. | 22:37 |
| d3k4t3ss3r4 | anyone familiar with lubuntu speaker issues? | 22:54 |
| cbreak | so... I've updated to 24.04, again, and had the same issue as last weekend: After the upgrade, the system would only show a black screen, from the point the bootloader started the kernel in the initrd | 23:35 |
| cbreak | the system seems to have booted normally otherwise (I was able to connect to servers running on the system), but no gui output, not even when trying to switch to an other tty | 23:35 |
| cbreak | Using an older 6.5 kernel / initrd seems to work | 23:36 |
| cbreak | I'm using an RTX 4080 with apparently drivers 535.171 from ubuntu's apt repos | 23:37 |
| cbreak | https://www.reddit.com/r/Kubuntu/comments/1cyau35/upgrade_from_2310_to_2404_results_in_black_screen/ ... apparently nosplash seems to help? | 23:45 |
| LuckyMan | cbreak, you might want to try wayland, ubuntu defaults to xorg when detecting nvidia cards | 23:59 |
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