| YeahMate | Thanks again Sarnoid libmail... does the trick. :) | 00:07 |
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| JanC | Soni: that sounds like something browsers would have to implement, not operating systems | 00:11 |
| JanC | also, from what I can see it's not standardised yet, so at best some browsers would have experimental support | 00:14 |
| JanC | and apparently for now that means only browsers based on Chromium | 00:16 |
| Tingo | JanC: Which thing should be implemented in Browsers.. ? | 00:19 |
| JanC | that was a reply to a question before you came in | 00:21 |
| Tingo | oh ok.. Sorry !! | 00:23 |
| sarnold | Tingo: it was about webusb | 00:32 |
| Soni | JanC: let's say someone uses windows. why should you tell them "here, have this third-party tool to make an usb stick for installing linux" instead of the much more reasonable "open the distro website in edge" | 00:43 |
| sarnold | Soni: if you want windows features you'll probably want to talk to microsoft :) | 00:44 |
| JanC | well, if you can make a webapp that can do that, I'm sure many distros would love that & use it | 00:44 |
| JanC | sarnold: it would be a webapp that works in any browser that supports it (but like I said before, said support only exists experimentally in Chromium-based browsers for now) | 00:46 |
| sarnold | JanC: hmm I think I'd be grumpy if a browser could dd to a memory stick | 00:48 |
| JanC | :) | 00:48 |
| JanC | it would be supposed to ask access to it first, and the browser would be supposed to ask you first :) | 00:49 |
| JanC | it's also "worse" than just being able to write on an USB stick but full USB access to that device | 00:50 |
| JanC | (you better hope the USB device can't update its firmware over USB, I guess...) | 00:51 |
| Soni | JanC: that's actually the intended use-case for WebUSB | 00:51 |
| Soni | using it to flash linux is unintended | 00:52 |
| rovac | Hi, I am having problems with the upgrade from 23.10 to 24.04. Can somebody help me see if this is just my setup or I should log a bug? | 00:53 |
| JanC | on some USB sticks you can also update the firmware over USB & convert it into an entirely different USB device ;) | 00:53 |
| JanC | rovac: if you can give the error you get then maybe someone can help (if it's more than a couple lines, put it on a pastebin or so) | 00:54 |
| rovac | I think it's not too long: | 00:55 |
| rovac | An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade. | 00:55 |
| rovac | This was likely caused by: | 00:55 |
| rovac | * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu | 00:55 |
| rovac | Please use the tool 'ppa-purge' from the ppa-purge | 00:55 |
| rovac | package to remove software from a Launchpad PPA and | 00:55 |
| sarnold | that ppa-purge package is a decent suggestion | 00:56 |
| sarnold | depending upon what was added / replaced, it might be enough to just comment out those lines from your apt config | 00:56 |
| rovac | Sure, but what do I purge? Also, the main log is full of lines like | 00:59 |
| rovac | 2024-05-24 02:26:54,500 DEBUG Searching for replacement for tilix | 00:59 |
| rovac | 2024-05-24 02:26:54,500 DEBUG Failed to find a replacement for tilix | 00:59 |
| rovac | - hundreds of these | 00:59 |
| sarnold | oh, hah, good question | 01:00 |
| rovac | Another weird thing - at the previous attempt I got the message that I don't have ubuntu-desktop, which I don't, and that it therefore can't determine my Ubuntu version (?!), after which I installed ubuntu-desktop | 01:01 |
| sarnold | the upgrader depends upon ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-server or ubuntu-minimal etc packages to be installed in order to do what it does | 01:02 |
| JanC | well, do-release-upgrade or its GUI versions expect that | 01:02 |
| rovac | How did it upgrade e.g. from 22.10 without one of these packages? | 01:03 |
| rovac | JanC what are you suggesting? | 01:03 |
| sarnold | the usual problem is trying to remove a package that you don't want, and then apt removes the metapackage too | 01:03 |
| dragon_ | is there formatting tools in ubuntu? | 01:06 |
| dragon_ | I am in lubuntu, but there is no activity in the support channel | 01:06 |
| rovac | Needless to say, the tilix example above is not a third party package, nor did I touch it manually, perhaps it got automatically updated and that's it | 01:06 |
| sarnold | dragon_: what would you expect the tools to format? | 01:07 |
| dragon_ | a usb drive, with some kind of document protection on it | 01:08 |
| sarnold | rovac: this might help find the things: for p in $(dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ {print $2; }' ) ; do apt-cache policy $p | grep ppa.launchpad && echo $p && apt-cache policy $p ; done | 01:08 |
| dragon_ | well, generally external storage drives | 01:08 |
| sarnold | dragon_: fdisk cfdisk gpart | 01:08 |
| dragon_ | I have gpart | 01:08 |
| dragon_ | no, kde partition manager, sorry | 01:09 |
| dragon_ | thanks, I shall search for the package | 01:09 |
| JanC | that can be used to format too | 01:09 |
| JanC | if you want a GUI there is also GParted and gnome-disks | 01:10 |
| JanC | rovac: most likely there is something else that conflicts with something that tilix needs | 01:11 |
| JanC | the actual conflicting package might be mentioned above those lines somewhere | 01:12 |
| rovac | And hundreds of these? I am running almost a vanilla Ubuntu, installed a dozen of programs mostly through GUI. This time I was really a good boy and stil ran into trouble. | 01:13 |
| JanC | sometimes 1 badly conflicting package can cause a dependency solver to get very confused... | 01:15 |
| JanC | and the GUI doesn't make that different really | 01:15 |
| rovac | GUI in the sense I wasn't doing anything exotic, just installed marketplace apps. But yeah, I see your point. | 01:16 |
| rovac | there is also this> | 01:17 |
| rovac | ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'The package 'update-manager' is marked for removal but it is in the removal deny list.' | 01:17 |
| JanC | okay, good thing it figured out that something was wrong there :) | 01:17 |
| sarnold | wow your system went pretty far off the rails :) | 01:17 |
| sarnold | if this were my system, I'd be inclined to run: apt update --- look for anything that's NOT the official ubuntu archive. go find those in /etc/apt/sources* files and comment them out. then apt update again, make sure those lines are gone, apt upgrade to get updates, and then try do-release-upgrade again | 01:19 |
| JanC | or ppa-purge those | 01:19 |
| JanC | that should replace the PPA packages with official ones | 01:20 |
| sarnold | *nod* very good idea if the ppa has done silly things :) | 01:20 |
| rovac | sarnold Does the script you sent depend of whitespace or can I save it and run it like that | 01:21 |
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| rovac | for p in $(dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ {print $2; }' ) ; do apt-cache policy $p | grep ppa.launchpad && echo $p && apt-cache policy $p ; done | 01:22 |
| sarnold | rovac: it should run just like that | 01:24 |
| sarnold | you can probably make it work with newlines in it but I'm not real good at that. I hate shell scripts so I never got good at them. :( | 01:24 |
| rovac | I'll try your apt update suggestion in the meantime or anything else you suggest, but before I spend weeks troubleshooting this - can you guys take a look at the logs so I don't follow the wrong clue. I could have picked wrong things from the logs to show here. | 01:26 |
| JanC | if you put the full log on a pastebin, yes | 01:27 |
| sarnold | the full logs are pretty brutal; the terminal output is usually a lot easier to work with | 01:31 |
| rovac | Thanks a million! | 01:32 |
| rovac | I tried pastebin, it wont accept the 10k lines from apt.log sarnold I can see why you say that | 01:32 |
| rovac | I dont have the terminal output, I did the GUI upgrade | 01:33 |
| sarnold | I don't think I've ever actually solved a problem with those logs ;( I really dislike em :) | 01:33 |
| rovac | I can try the do release upgrade if it's easier | 01:33 |
| sarnold | open a terminal, run do-release-upgrade, that will give you something that's easier to share around | 01:33 |
| rovac | Running from the terminal didn't change much, I got the same error as from the UI. Here are the full logs https://1drv.ms/f/s!At_iiWOMX_Y0gbd1QUTfToDHyw9RAw?e=ilAyV1 | 02:24 |
| sarnold | how about the terminal output itself? | 02:25 |
| sarnold | iirc it runs it in screen so it might not be very easy to collect it :/ but i'm really hoping it gives a nice summary :) | 02:26 |
| sarnold | these sources lists are way more usual than I expected. I feared a big pile of weird things. | 02:26 |
| sarnold | rovac: how about sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop ? see what errors that reports? | 02:27 |
| rovac | Here is the output from the terminal itself https://pastebin.com/R015VML1 | 02:28 |
| rovac | It is a big pile in apt.log though, weird or not | 02:29 |
| sarnold | rovac: heh, you weren't kidding, there's nothing here to help :( | 02:30 |
| sarnold | I thought for sure I'd seen it give useful errors here in the past. bah. | 02:30 |
| rovac | I don't think I got any errors while installing ubuntu-desktop | 02:30 |
| sarnold | if that worked .. give it another try? heh | 02:31 |
| rovac | https://pastebin.com/fUSDvUXe | 02:35 |
| rovac | I did try to upgrade the system after the ubuntu-desktop installation, that's how I got here :( Just kidding, I don't what would have happened without that step, maybe the same. | 02:37 |
| sarnold | rovac: sheesh :( I wish I had some better ideas here. maybe ubuntu-bug do-release-upgrade to file a bug report? | 02:40 |
| rovac81 | I got disconnected, did anyone write to me after XX:37 | 02:41 |
| sarnold | 2024-05-24 02:40:01 < sarnold> rovac: sheesh :( I wish I had some better ideas here. maybe ubuntu-bug do-release-upgrade to file a bug report? | 02:41 |
| rovac81 | Sure, I will, I wanted to check with you guys first so I don't file a bug for nothing | 02:41 |
| sarnold | the last we saw from you was < rovac> I did try to upgrade the system ... | 02:41 |
| rovac81 | I'll stay for a while more just in case JanC gets an idea, but it looks like a bug report it is | 02:42 |
| JanC | I would hope MS & Google don't put system packages in their repositories | 03:06 |
| JanC | but we really need the logs from the resolver to see why it can't find a solution | 03:09 |
| sarnold | JanC: https://1drv.ms/f/s!At_iiWOMX_Y0gbd1QUTfToDHyw9RAw?e=ilAyV1 | 03:09 |
| JanC | I don't have a Microsoft account | 03:09 |
| rovac | Did I miss anything? | 03:10 |
| JanC | the MS Drive thing requires a login... | 03:15 |
| rovac | oh? I set the read access to everyone with a link, but maybe they meant everybody with a link and a MS account :D | 03:17 |
| sarnold | JanC: oh? I saw it without trouble so I assumed it was wide open | 03:19 |
| sarnold | now I wonder if I've got an MS account :) | 03:19 |
| rovac | MS spies everywhere! | 03:20 |
| rovac | Can this bpa.st handle 800kB text? | 03:20 |
| sarnold | if not, github gist might | 03:21 |
| JanC | maybe it's because they aren't allowed to spy without an account in the EU | 03:21 |
| rovac | Here is the main.log, the smaller one https://bpa.st/5WZA | 03:23 |
| sarnold | ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 03:23 |
| sarnold | alright, i'm off for the night, good luck | 03:26 |
| rovac | gist worked https://gist.github.com/nomen-pristinum/0d0e23c064010410a9b6ef5005c3b144 | 03:27 |
| rovac | Thanks, Arnold! | 03:27 |
| rovac | Thank you for your help | 03:27 |
| rovac | JanC let me know if you can see the files now | 03:29 |
| JanC | I was checking the bpa one | 03:29 |
| JanC | 2024-05-24 02:26:51,790 INFO No mail-transport-agent installed, marking gpg-wks-server for removal | 03:30 |
| JanC | rovac: the only thing I can think about to try is to remove all packages from the google/chrome-remote-desktop & microsoft/code repositories and then try again... | 03:43 |
| rovac | gladly, how do I do it | 03:45 |
| rovac | there is also one stray package I cant remember any more, some proprietary piece of software I downloaded probably as .deb via FTP, can that be a problem and how do I get rid of it? And another similar to the google remote desktop, also cant remember its name. Can I list them somehow? | 03:49 |
| rbox | you want to get rid of something you don't know what it is? | 03:53 |
| Tingo | rovac: HI, what is your issue ? after installing Ubuntu-desktop .. can you not see GUI or what ? | 03:53 |
| JanC | try: apt list --installed|grep -v mantic | 03:53 |
| Perl_Lang | hi | 03:54 |
| rovac | Thanks, Jan. rbox, I figure I would recognise these | 03:56 |
| Perl_Lang | i your worst nightmare | 03:56 |
| rovac | Tingo, I got an error while upgrading from 23.10, failed to calculate the upgrade | 03:58 |
| rovac | This was likely caused by: | 03:58 |
| rovac | * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu | 03:58 |
| rovac | Please use the tool 'ppa-purge' from the ppa-purge | 03:58 |
| rovac | package to remove software from a Launchpad PPA and | 03:58 |
| rovac | try the upgrade again. | 03:58 |
| Perl_Lang | huh? | 03:58 |
| Tingo | rovac: just pastebin this command $ history .. it will show which commands you have been given before issue or after issue.. | 03:58 |
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| rovac | I ran the upgrade from UI, the prompt appeared after I booted | 03:59 |
| Perl_Lang | ai is weird these days. mostve slept for 30 years, correct? | 04:00 |
| lotuspsychje | !ot | Perl_Lang | 04:01 |
| ubottu | Perl_Lang: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! | 04:01 |
| JanC | rovac: I haven't found anything in the apt.log yet, but I'm going to get some sleep (it's actually early morning here by now), hopefully removing the 3rd party packages will solve your issue | 04:01 |
| Perl_Lang | i use chatzilla | 04:02 |
| rovac | This is the apt.log https://gist.github.com/nomen-pristinum/0d0e23c064010410a9b6ef5005c3b144 and this is the main.log from the upgrade logs one https://bpa.st/5WZA | 04:02 |
| rovac | Thanks a million Jan, we are probably in the same timezone, this kept me up all night | 04:02 |
| rovac | thanks a lot for your assistance, I will log a bug if nothing works | 04:03 |
| JanC | the apt.log is where to find the reasoning of the dependency solving algorithm | 04:04 |
| JanC | but I need to be more awake for that than I am now :) | 04:04 |
| Tingo | now you have stuck in middle that GUI is not loading because of un-completed upgrade ? | 04:04 |
| rovac | Of course, please get some rest | 04:04 |
| rovac | Tingo, thankfully no, just a failed long awaited upgrade | 04:05 |
| rovac | I wonder if this is something worth reporting, also | 04:06 |
| JanC | rovac, before reporting, remove everything that didn't come from Ubuntu & try again; but if it still fail then... | 04:07 |
| rovac | Ay, sir | 04:07 |
| Tingo | rovac: remove Ubuntu-desktop and then reboot it .. | 04:09 |
| JanC | Tingo: no | 04:09 |
| Tingo | then will see | 04:09 |
| rovac | I started without it, it complained bc it couldnt get the version without it, so I installed it (I forgot about that step, sorry) | 04:10 |
| Tingo | you should first upgrade Ubuntu with out GUI and then should install ubuntu-desktop.. | 04:11 |
| JanC | Tingo: stop | 04:11 |
| Tingo | The package 'update-manager' is marked for removal but it's in the removal deny list | 04:12 |
| Tingo | Dist-upgrade failed: 'The package 'update-manager' is marked for removal but it is in the removal deny list.' | 04:12 |
| Tingo | WARNING Can't mark 'ubuntu-desktop' for upgrade (E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.) | 04:13 |
| Tingo | JanC: $ sudo apt update .. what is it showing right now ? | 04:20 |
| rovac | https://pastebin.com/mpJHneKz | 04:22 |
| rovac | btw, I have just removed ubuntu-desktop | 04:22 |
| rovac | haven't rebooted bc I will go offline here | 04:23 |
| Tingo | so you want to upgrade from mantic 23.10 to 24.04 (Noble).. ? | 04:24 |
| rovac | that's right | 04:24 |
| rovac | and it seems that the upgrade progressed more now that I have removed ubuntu-desktop | 04:25 |
| rovac | and tried again via command line | 04:26 |
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| Tingo | $ sudo cat /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades | 04:26 |
| Tingo | and also need to clean up apt ... $ sudo apt clean all | 04:27 |
| rovac | normal | 04:28 |
| rovac | shall I cancel the cmd line upgrade (hit N) and clean up first? | 04:28 |
| Tingo | cancel it.. dont upgrade now.. until i say.. | 04:30 |
| Tingo | clean up first | 04:30 |
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| rovac | cancelled and attempted clean, unable to get a lock on var/lib/apt/lists | 04:31 |
| Tingo | $ ls -l /etc/apt/sourcelist.d/ | 04:32 |
| Tingo | unable to get a lock on var/lib/apt/lists menans ? | 04:33 |
| rovac | Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock. It is held by process 27642 (noble) | 04:34 |
| rovac | output from cleaning | 04:34 |
| rovac | Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ | 04:34 |
| Tingo | hmm... | 04:35 |
| Tingo | $ sudo ps -aux | grep 27642 | 04:36 |
| rovac | root 27642 1.2 0.5 401044 82548 pts/4 Tl+ 06:23 0:09 /usr/bin/python3 -s /tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-f5bs48zv/noble --mode=server --frontend=DistUpgradeViewText | 04:37 |
| rovac | nikola 29992 0.0 0.0 12316 2304 pts/0 S+ 06:36 0:00 grep --color=auto 27642 | 04:37 |
| Tingo | $ sudo kill -9 27642 | 04:38 |
| Tingo | $ sudo apt clean all | 04:38 |
| rovac | killed the process and ran the clean all | 04:39 |
| rovac | no output from apt this time | 04:39 |
| Tingo | ok.. $ uname -a | 04:40 |
| Tingo | actually wanted to see which kernel are you running right now.. | 04:41 |
| rovac | Linux Cheetah 6.5.0-35-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Apr 26 11:23:57 UTC 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 04:41 |
| rovac | I had switched to OEM before to try and fix a sleep issue with Lenovo/AMD, bu that bork the brightness and other keyboard keys | 04:42 |
| rovac | but that broke* | 04:42 |
| Tingo | ok now .. $ sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade | 04:43 |
| Tingo | and pastebin the output | 04:43 |
| rovac | https://bpa.st/ZB5Q | 04:44 |
| Tingo | in last pastebin.. your $ sudo apt update was showing mantic .. now its showing noble .. in $ sudo apt update ? | 04:46 |
| rovac | what in the world | 04:47 |
| rovac | yes | 04:47 |
| rovac | actually I dont remeber what was before | 04:47 |
| Tingo | https://pastebin.com/mpJHneKz | 04:47 |
| Tingo | this one was the last one.. | 04:48 |
| rovac | https://bpa.st/ZB5Q this one was now | 04:49 |
| Tingo | well, $ sudo apt install update-manager-core .. havev to check this manager-core version | 04:49 |
| rovac | I did run do-release-upgrade but chose N when prompted to go fro the upgrade | 04:49 |
| Tingo | $ sudo cat /etc/apt/sources.list | 04:50 |
| rovac | the apt upgrade is still running | 04:50 |
| rovac | shall I runn in parllel or wait | 04:50 |
| Tingo | press Y to $sudo apt upgrade.. | 04:52 |
| rovac | sources list https://bpa.st/QR5Q | 04:52 |
| Tingo | ok, its upgrading packages .. after $ sudo apt upgrade ? | 04:54 |
| rovac | yes, it prompted me to allow to restart services at will, I said Yes | 04:54 |
| Tingo | YES.. | 04:55 |
| Tingo | and did it said about NEW KERNEL message ? | 04:55 |
| Tingo | during upgrading packages ? | 04:55 |
| rovac | I don't know, there is A LOT of output coming | 04:56 |
| Tingo | always press YES during this current upgrading.. | 04:56 |
| rovac | It's unpacking everyting on earth, I will save the output from the console and upload it somewhere if you need it, to much for clipboard and pastebins | 04:58 |
| Tingo | nop, i meant like it had prompted you for restart service .. it might be show you same pop-up message about NEW Kernel.. | 04:59 |
| rovac | Ah, I see. There iis a new prompt: new version (/usr/share/unattended-upgrades/20auto-upgrades-disabled) of configuration file /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades is available, but the version installed currently has been locally modified. | 05:00 |
| rovac | What do you want to do about modified configuration file 20auto-upgrades? | 05:00 |
| Tingo | its asking about YES and NO ? | 05:01 |
| rovac | multiple choice> | 05:01 |
| Tingo | which ? | 05:01 |
| rovac | │ install the package maintainer's version │ keep the local version currently installed │ show the differences between the versions │ show a side-by-side difference between the versions │ | 05:03 |
| rovac | │ show a 3-way difference between available versions │ do a 3-way merge between available versions │ start a new shell to examine the situation │ | 05:03 |
| Tingo | keep the local version was highlighted already ? | 05:03 |
| ravage | If you dont remember doing any of those modifications yourself I would recommend installing the packagers version | 05:04 |
| rovac | Tingo, I think so< but I cant be sure, I possibleyclicked | 05:04 |
| Tingo | select keep the local version currently installed.. | 05:05 |
| rovac | ravage, I think I didnt | 05:05 |
| Tingo | btw.. later on you can change/configure it later on by $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure unattended-upgrades | 05:06 |
| rovac | so package maintainers' or local? | 05:07 |
| rovac | oh, okay | 05:07 |
| Tingo | well, how many upgrades has been done yet ? out of 1593 ? | 05:07 |
| rovac | more than half | 05:08 |
| rovac | almost done | 05:09 |
| Tingo | any kind of Errors at the end ? | 05:10 |
| Tingo | well, after this.. for more verification. $ sudo apt dist-upgrade | 05:11 |
| rovac | a warning, interrupted before it could finish, probably pertaining to the last step | 05:12 |
| Tingo | pastebins ..? | 05:12 |
| rovac | you want the whole thing or just the last several lines | 05:12 |
| Tingo | last several lines | 05:12 |
| rovac | https://bpa.st/5XOQ | 05:14 |
| Tingo | $ sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade | 05:15 |
| Tingo | re-run again for verification | 05:16 |
| rovac | dist upgrade or upgrade | 05:16 |
| Tingo | both.. | 05:16 |
| Tingo | first update and then upgrade | 05:17 |
| rovac | and then dist-upgrade? | 05:17 |
| Tingo | will see dist-upgrade after that.. | 05:17 |
| Tingo | pastebin first that $ sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgradate | 05:18 |
| Tingo | *upgrade | 05:18 |
| rovac | https://bpa.st/4XFA update | 05:19 |
| rovac | how can I best give you the upgrade output? It's going to be big and ask for input | 05:20 |
| Tingo | nop leave upgrade.. let it upgrade.. | 05:21 |
| Tingo | if it shows errror again then pastebin... its now 677 packages.. | 05:21 |
| rovac | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 677 not upgraded. | 05:22 |
| rovac | the UI also jumped in now to offer a partial upgrade, skipping 677 packages | 05:22 |
| Tingo | k | 05:23 |
| Tingo | $ sudo apt disk-upgrade | 05:23 |
| Tingo | $ sudo apt dist-upgrade | 05:23 |
| rovac | https://bpa.st/TVKA | 05:24 |
| Tingo | hmm... thats why i had suggest that first upgrade Ubuntu and then install ubuntu-desktop | 05:26 |
| Tingo | btw.. as you said you have been removed ubuntu-desktop ..? | 05:26 |
| rovac | what do you figure happened? | 05:26 |
| rovac | yes, but didn't restart, in order to stay online | 05:27 |
| Tingo | well.. hmm.. $ lsb_release -a | 05:27 |
| Tingo | and $ uname -a | 05:28 |
| rovac | No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 24.04 LTS Release: 24.04 | 05:29 |
| rovac | Linux Cheetah 6.5.0-35-generic #35-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Fri Apr 26 11:23:57 UTC 2024 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux | 05:29 |
| Tingo | hmm.. its stil 6.5.0-35 Kernel | 05:30 |
| rovac | yes, I havent restarted the machine, should it which live?! | 05:31 |
| Tingo | well, sudo apt install update-manager-core | 05:31 |
| Tingo | yea, need to reboot it.. but first tell me update-manager-core version.... | 05:31 |
| rovac | https://bpa.st/IC5A | 05:32 |
| Tingo | $ sudo apt autoremove | 05:33 |
| rovac | https://bpa.st/VWNA | 05:34 |
| Tingo | Y | 05:35 |
| Tingo | and after this.. $ sudo reboot | 05:35 |
| rovac | removed a ot, processed trigers, no errors or warnings | 05:36 |
| rovac | a lot* | 05:36 |
| Tingo | ok.. reboot it.. | 05:36 |
| rovac | if I reboot I will go offline | 05:36 |
| rovac | will I be able to boot? | 05:37 |
| Tingo | hope so... btw again $ sudo apt update ; $ sudo apt --list-upgradable | 05:38 |
| rovac | after the reboot or now | 05:39 |
| Tingo | now | 05:39 |
| Tingo | $ sudo apt --listupgradable | 05:39 |
| rovac | 660 packages can be up. | 05:39 |
| Tingo | $ sudo apt upgrade | 05:40 |
| Tingo | but also pastebin $ sudo apt --listupgradable | 05:40 |
| Tingo | copy its list.. | 05:40 |
| Tingo | apt upgrade shown same errors or ? | 05:47 |
| rovac | No, it's me who got stuck :D | 05:48 |
| rovac | and gedit | 05:49 |
| Tingo | this time apt-upgrade command didnt gave any error ? | 05:49 |
| rovac | had to > to a file, Tilix doesnt let me save | 05:49 |
| rovac | https://bpa.st/HNNQ | 05:50 |
| rovac | havent run upgrade yet | 05:50 |
| Tingo | btw.. also give this comand $ sudo ldconfig | 05:50 |
| rovac | this is apt list --upgradable | 05:50 |
| rovac | ldconfig done, no output. Tell me when to proceed with upgrade. | 05:51 |
| Tingo | 90% packages are related to ubuntu-desktop group.. | 05:52 |
| Tingo | Y | 05:53 |
| rovac | done, nicee and clean | 05:55 |
| Tingo | Good.. | 05:56 |
| Tingo | you can now reboot it ..if you want to .. | 05:57 |
| Tingo | time to go .. :) | 05:57 |
| rovac | sure! | 05:57 |
| rovac | Thanks a lot, Tingo, you are a magician | 05:57 |
| rovac | Where are you from, btw | 05:58 |
| Tingo | Most welcome !! | 05:58 |
| rovac | 99% of paid products and services don't have support this good and dedicated, even people who couldn't solve it tried their best. Thanks! | 06:00 |
| LuckyMan | hi, my camera isn't working on 24.04 | 06:30 |
| LuckyMan | Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0408:4033 Quanta Computer, Inc. ACER HD User Facing | 06:32 |
| nwoob | In fractional scaling 100% makes everything looks small and when I change it to 125% everything is too big. is there something in between? | 09:02 |
| Walex | scaling is not a good idea, better change the DPI. | 10:14 |
| === PasiZ1 is now known as PasiZ | ||
| maythd | Hello | 10:40 |
| maythd | im here | 10:41 |
| tuxick | \o | 11:16 |
| dragon_ | what do you use to burn installable iso image on a usb stick? | 12:04 |
| oerheks | usb creator, standard in ubuntu | 12:04 |
| oerheks | !usb | 12:05 |
| ubottu | For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 12:05 |
| j_w_t | @dragon_ I use Ventoy. | 12:16 |
| dragon_ | I see | 12:18 |
| dragon_ | there are suppose to be a iso burning tool in lubuntu, but I can`t find it | 12:18 |
| dragon_ | neither the checksum tool, | 12:18 |
| dragon_ | It`s been a while since I did it, and I am such an amateur | 12:18 |
| dragon_ | I have had upgrades from within a running buntu for too long | 12:19 |
| dragon_ | j_w_t, is ventoy preinstalled? | 12:20 |
| j_w_t | No. | 12:21 |
| oerheks | .. sure you can find usb creator. | 12:21 |
| dragon_ | I have a startup disk creator | 12:23 |
| oerheks | the same | 12:24 |
| dragon_ | ...I have to check md5 sum I think | 12:26 |
| dragon_ | is it a must? | 12:26 |
| dragon_ | ...oh, in terminal... | 12:27 |
| === gschanuel5377 is now known as gschanuel537 | ||
| mckanty32 | Hi, I just upgraded Ubuntu to 24.04 and my lxde panel is now broken - cut in half, systray not showing, see screenshot and logs: | 13:52 |
| mckanty32 | https://mariuszkoniarz.pl/lxde_systray_not_showing.png https://mariuszkoniarz.pl/run.log how to fix this? | 13:52 |
| mckanty32 | on new account made for test this issue is this same | 13:52 |
| tarzeau | mckanty32: hmmm nie dobrze wyglonda | 13:57 |
| BluesKaj | Hiall | 14:05 |
| carter | I have a small 11'' keyboard with no del key. I wanted to create a shortcut to delete, but what command do I need? | 14:06 |
| lotuspsychje | !info input-remapper | carter | 14:07 |
| ubottu | carter: input-remapper (2.0.1-1, noble): Input device button mapping tool (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Built by input-remapper. Size 2 kB / 9 kB | 14:07 |
| Nitrigaur | Ubuntu 24.04, upgraded from 23.10. I try to install the new ppa for Kicad 8, but even after adding it, apt still insists on installing the outdated 7.6 version. There is also a snap, but that package is not from the Kicad devs and it breaks showing components in 3D viewer. | 14:24 |
| lotuspsychje | Nitrigaur: the volunteers cant advice much on external ppa's | 14:24 |
| lotuspsychje | Nitrigaur: usualy we advice to keep the ubuntu repos vanilla on your system, to avoid conflicts or dependency errors | 14:25 |
| oerheks | ppa:kicad/kicad-8.0-releases from https://www.kicad.org/download/details/ubuntu/ | 14:26 |
| oerheks | https://launchpad.net/~kicad/+archive/ubuntu/kicad-8.0-releases | 14:27 |
| Nitrigaur | oerheks, thank you for the link, but I've found both links already. That's how I added the ppa. apt policy kicad shows both versions, but even though I explicitly state the version I want with kicad=8.0.2-0 apt still offers to install version 7.6 without telling me why it does not comply with my stated version | 14:31 |
| oerheks | from what ppa does that 7.6 come from? delete it? | 14:32 |
| Nitrigaur | oerheks, the previous ppa was from 23.10, but I have removed it from the sources list. | 14:32 |
| oerheks | sure? ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 14:33 |
| Nitrigaur | oerheks,only kicad-ubuntu-kicad-8_0-releases-noble.sources is listed | 14:34 |
| oerheks | then did you install something manuall? | 14:36 |
| Nitrigaur | oerheks, no, I only used apt | 14:36 |
| oerheks | then the apt version is 7.6, remove that one? | 14:37 |
| oerheks | !info kicad noble | 14:38 |
| ubottu | kicad (7.0.11+dfsg-1build4, noble): Electronic schematic and PCB design software. In component universe, is optional. Built by kicad. Size 35,272 kB / 146,189 kB. (Only available for any-amd64, any-i386, arm64, armhf, mips64el, powerpc, ppc64, ppc64el, riscv64.) | 14:38 |
| ioria | Nitrigaur, have you tried the testing build ? ppa:kicad/kicad-8.0-nightly | 14:43 |
| Nitrigaur | oerheks, this situation has probably to do something with the upgrade from 23.10 yesterday. It did not go smoothly at all. I had to go into rescue mode to complete the upgrade. | 14:43 |
| Nitrigaur | ioria. no, I stuck to the release build mentioned on the Kicad website. | 14:43 |
| Nitrigaur | ioria, ppa:kicad/kicad-8.0-releases to be precise. | 14:45 |
| oerheks | so your issue is upgrade stuff. maybe time for a fresh install? | 14:45 |
| Nitrigaur | oerheks, maybe so, but that would cost a lot of time, since I have a lot of programs installed and all my volumes are encrypted | 14:47 |
| ioria | Nitrigaur, apt-cache policy kicad | 14:48 |
| Nitrigaur | ioria, I'll make a pastebin of the output, but only two versions are mentioned, 8.0.2-0 and 7.0.11., not any version starting with 7.6 | 14:50 |
| Nitrigaur | https://dpaste.com/CH2L2W7U3 | 14:50 |
| ioria | Nitrigaur, and if you apt install kicad it will give you 7 , right ? | 14:51 |
| Nitrigaur | ioria, right | 14:53 |
| ioria | Nitrigaur, can you paste the /etc/apt/spurces.list.d/kicad-ubuntu-kicad-8_0-releases-noble.sources ? | 14:53 |
| ioria | Nitrigaur, can you paste the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/kicad-ubuntu-kicad-8_0-releases-noble.sources ? | 14:53 |
| Nitrigaur | ioria, sure :-) | 14:53 |
| oerheks | maybe you need the full name, kicad=8.0.2-0~ubuntu24.04.1 | 14:56 |
| Nitrigaur | ioria, https://dpaste.com/4VT8LCQ7N | 14:58 |
| ioria | Nitrigaur, change 'Suites: noble' with 'Suites: devel' | 14:59 |
| ioria | Nitrigaur, sudo apt update ; apt -s install kicad | 15:00 |
| Nitrigaur | oerheks, ioria, it works now, just with a normal apt install kicad and without changing the Suites to devel. | 15:00 |
| ioria | Nitrigaur, ah, ok | 15:01 |
| Nitrigaur | ioria, I'd like to understand more *why* it failed before, but for that I have to refer to the apt install logs. Anyhow, ioria, oerheks, thanks once again, you are treasures within this community. | 15:02 |
| ioria | time | 15:02 |
| ioria | Nitrigaur, no problem | 15:03 |
| === ch0ps3y is now known as Guest1101 | ||
| baughman | Good morning! | 16:00 |
| seberf | hallo | 17:06 |
| junyx | How do you pronounce sexp? | 17:14 |
| lotuspsychje | not a topic for here junyx | 17:15 |
| junyx | Wrong channel sorry | 17:15 |
| tarzeau | mckanty32: hmmm nie dobrze wyglonda | 17:36 |
| grolongo | do you guys also have network drives not showing in the dock? | 17:54 |
| oerheks | better ask your real question? | 17:57 |
| ioria | grolongo, where are mounted ? | 17:57 |
| oerheks | ubuntu version, how did you mount that drive | 17:57 |
| grolongo | Ubuntu 24.04, using fstab | 17:59 |
| ioria | grolongo, the mountpoints ? | 17:59 |
| grolongo | like this: //192.168.1.30/share /media/grolongo/share cifs vers=3.0,credentials=/home/grolongo/.smbcredentials | 18:00 |
| grolongo | I also have my .smbcredentials made and triple checked the login/password | 18:00 |
| grolongo | folders created as well | 18:01 |
| grolongo | I also checked the fstab line with my other Ubuntu machine running 22.04, which is identical, and it works fine on the older LTS. | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | grolongo: are they enabled in gnomes settings>/dock behaviour? | 18:02 |
| grolongo | yes | 18:02 |
| grolongo | network drives, external drives are enabled | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | i actualy had issues adding an internal 2nd ssd in noble too | 18:02 |
| grolongo | gsettings get org.gnome.shell.extensions.dash-to-dock show-mounts-network | 18:02 |
| oerheks | is .smbcredentials owner root, permissions 0600 ? | 18:02 |
| grolongo | returns true | 18:02 |
| lotuspsychje | from disk-tools automount didnt want to add the lines in fstab | 18:02 |
| grolongo | oerheks: that as well. correct permissions. | 18:03 |
| === zer0bitz_ is now known as zer0bitz | ||
| harry33 | hello: I have a dell 4 core machine that I put 22.04 on maybe 7-8 months ago. It keeps wanting to run a broken install of - ubuntu restricted extras - and says to let terminal fix it - when i try to do so - it keeps asking. thanks.. no , om not on that machine at this time - i will copy any text for later fixes - thanks. | 18:55 |
| harry33 | I tried uninstalling and re-installing - through the resident installer - to no avail. | 18:57 |
| harry33 | I looked into logs - nothing. | 18:57 |
| === Alpha is now known as Azul | ||
| === Azul is now known as Allpha- | ||
| === Allpha- is now known as Alpha_ | ||
| === Alpha_ is now known as Alpha` | ||
| neoli | I need help: Partial upgrade to ubuntu 24.04 from 23.10, FS only accessible in recovery mode as root + wifi may be down. | 20:11 |
| neoli | I can log in to recovery mode, filesystem is read and write, unsure that ‘network’ enables it. | 20:12 |
| neoli | the whole problem can be read here: https://privatebin.at/?daf7838c931e9b89#6HtPcpT8wJ2ykjjPtT8xc81aVdLPWrXyrKwwo87ACxWk | 20:13 |
| oerheks | what a weird paste | 20:19 |
| neoli | if you mark the text, you can read it | 20:36 |
| giosasasasa | ciao | 21:22 |
| chonkin | I have a workstation with 22.04-1 kernel 6.5.0-35-generic . It is freezing on boot and does not even reach the GUI. | 21:32 |
| chonkin | here is my journalctl https://bpa.st/5YIA | 21:32 |
| chonkin | I'm getting "Failed to start Service for snap application kclock.kclockd". Several timeouts occur waiting for a reply from ntp.ubuntu.com. The computer then freezes dead until I reset it with the power button. This freeze occurs during boot. | 21:44 |
| cbreak | wonder what kclock is | 21:52 |
| oerheks | boot in safe mode, remove that snap? | 21:53 |
| cbreak | that's what I'd also suggest. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode | 21:54 |
| oerheks | publisher is KDE, https://snapcraft.io/kclock | 21:55 |
| oerheks | oh, and a changelog in snapstore before downloading would be great | 21:56 |
| cbreak | weird, you don't need snap to get a clock in kde... ah well, what ever, probably nothing lost removing it | 21:56 |
| oerheks | me hope this one gets fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fail2ban/+bug/2055114 | 21:57 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2055114 in fail2ban (Ubuntu Noble) "fail2ban is broken in 24.04 Noble" [High, Confirmed] | 21:57 | |
| cbreak | oerheks: I use deadsnakes ppa python for a ton of things that don't work on 3.12 yet, or are too annoying to update | 21:59 |
| chonkin | I found kclock 23.08.3 Rev 21 on this machine. How can I remove that snap pkg without it sneaking back into the system? | 22:05 |
| cbreak | chonkin: with snap remove? | 22:06 |
| cbreak | it's not something ubuntu installs on its own | 22:06 |
| chonkin | cbreak I think i just need to stop it from loading a service at boot. This kclock is the most likely cause of a freeze during boot | 22:07 |
| cbreak | it won't start if it's not there :) | 22:07 |
| cbreak | otherwise, snap disable might do it ... | 22:07 |
| oerheks | safe mode prevents those starting | 22:07 |
| oerheks | a/k/a/ single user mode | 22:08 |
| rawrmonster | I am having issues getting docker compose to work. When I run docker-compose up --build -d on a compose file I get "docker.errors.DockerException: Error while fetching server API version: HTTPConnection.request() got an unexpected keyword argument 'chunked'" | 22:24 |
| pragmaticenigma | rawrmonster: sounds like a question to send to #docker or a channel. Also... would help if you post a link to a paste of your docker compose file. | 22:30 |
| chonkin | cbreak okay the kclock was successfully removed. The machine still freezes on boot. | 22:46 |
| chonkin | I can't see anything wrong in the journalctl https://bpa.st/4KXQ | 22:46 |
| chonkin | You can see me wait for 20 seconds for the machine to respond at 18:28:02 "Power key pressed." | 22:47 |
| chonkin | I am stumped. My best guess is this event logged at | 22:49 |
| chonkin | May 24 18:27:06 my.netw.com systemd[1]: Received SIGRTMIN+21 from PID 487 (plymouthd). | 22:49 |
| cbreak | can you switch to an other tty and log in there on the text console? | 22:50 |
| cbreak | and look around with systemctl status or so? | 22:50 |
| chonkin | cbreak me? | 22:51 |
| cbreak | yes | 22:52 |
| chonkin | cbreak https://bpa.st/B5HA | 22:56 |
| cbreak | no failed units | 23:15 |
| cbreak | but doesn't look like everyone's there | 23:15 |
| cbreak | you're still in recovery mode | 23:15 |
| chonkin | yep. The machine is freezing on boot during normal boots | 23:17 |
| oerheks | then journalctrl -b -1 gives previous boot logs | 23:20 |
| chonkin | yes. I went back to find the boot that involved pressing the power button | 23:20 |
| cbreak | you can't switch to an other tty when the boot process hangs? | 23:26 |
| chonkin | alright it is hanging right now. What should I try? | 23:26 |
| cbreak | press ctrl-alt-f4 or so, to try to switch to tty4 | 23:27 |
| chonkin | ctrl-alt-f4 has no effect. ( Well. it made the blinking cursor freeze. No other signs. ) | 23:28 |
| cbreak | I'd probably try to install / setup sshd in the recovery env and check if it works during the "frozen" boot | 23:31 |
| cbreak | but this looks very weird | 23:31 |
| Tingo | cbreak: Which Ubuntu Version are you running ? and With GUI or Without ? | 23:33 |
| Tingo | cbreak: Where is it get Hang.. on Login Prompt/Window or During booting? | 23:34 |
| chonkin | it hangs before any GUI appears. 22.04-1 , 6.5.0-35-generic | 23:38 |
| cbreak | Tingo: it's chonkin's problem, not mine | 23:40 |
| Tingo | cbreak : oh Sorry... | 23:41 |
| Tingo | chonkin: during Boot.. do you see any Error or Red Color message Regarding Services etc ? | 23:42 |
| Tingo | What was the last configuration you did and it start happening ? | 23:45 |
| chonkin | This time i waited 1min8sec before pressing the power button. https://bpa.st/BIRA | 23:46 |
| chonkin | May 24 19:35:02 my.netw.com systemd-logind[999]: Power key pressed. | 23:46 |
| chonkin | This is the only part that seems off to me , but this was neither an error, failure, nor warning | 23:49 |
| chonkin | May 24 19:23:24 my.netw.com systemd[1]: Started crash report submission. | 23:49 |
| chonkin | May 24 19:23:24 my.netw.com systemd[1]: kerneloops.service: Found left-over process 1235 (kerneloops) in control group while starting unit. Ignoring. | 23:49 |
| chonkin | "left-over process." "unclean termination" "service implementaiton deficiencies" | 23:54 |
| chonkin | alright. I am at work and I need to leave the premises and get to stores before the close for the evening. | 23:56 |
| chonkin | I am on a latop, so I wlil be closing IRC and wlil not see your messages to me | 23:56 |
| chonkin | I wll not be able to work on this tomorrow, as my car is getting repaired | 23:56 |
| chonkin | I will (maybe) be back to work on this on Sunday | 23:56 |
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