| chonkin | cbreak okay. So now the behavior of this machine is after any normal reboot, it stops and ceases progress at an apparently random location. I've seen it "freeze" at things as diverse as "Finished Record Runlevel Change in UTMP." to "Started CUPS schedule service" | 00:18 |
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| chonkin | cbreak okay I have regnerated the intramfs . The boot now hangs at the line below with a blinking cursor | 00:30 |
| chonkin | [ OK ] Started CUPS Scheduler. | 00:30 |
| LittleBillyBiscu | "arecord -l" gives me the following info---> card 1: C200 [Anker PowerConf C200], device 0: USB Audio [USB Audio] | 00:52 |
| LittleBillyBiscu | how do I set this as default alsa capture device | 00:53 |
| === chris14_ is now known as chris14 | ||
| chonkin | some guy keeps telling me that I need to increase the loglevel of the boot logs to diagnose a machine that is frozen on boot. So i did all the needed changes in grub and grub-update and et cetera and et cetera. All my ducks are in a row and still see now visual change to the screen during boot. What th ehell am I doing wrong? | 01:20 |
| chonkin | I'm suppoed to be seeing a bunch of debug output upon boot and I just see nothig. What am I missing? | 01:21 |
| chonkin | https://i.imgur.com/ZvtqJoE.png | 01:21 |
| chonkin | I see *no visual change to the boot sequence. Nothig changes. We have been f-king with this for an hour | 01:22 |
| chonkin | somone just please tell me what I messed up. | 01:22 |
| bobdobbs | in ubuntu, after installing apache, by default who owns /var/www? | 01:57 |
| bobdobbs | Should it be root or www-data? | 01:58 |
| chonkin | I was able to boot into a GUI using a slightly older kernel. The non-booting kernel is 6.5.0-35. The kernel booting into KDE plasma desktop is 6.5.0-28 | 02:57 |
| chonkin | need to leave, be back tomorrow | 02:57 |
| cfbadano | hola | 03:24 |
| geeky | still no luck with the vma memory error | 04:14 |
| geeky | guess i can try without the egpu | 04:15 |
| Guest75 | i have an issue with firefox translations. application menu is in english and preferences uses my locale. :S | 07:26 |
| Guest75 | in other word it uses mixed languages. | 07:26 |
| Guest75 | firefox is installed from mozilla's repo. | 07:27 |
| Guest75 | everything worked well yesterday. | 07:27 |
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| marido_mad_ | server irc.irc-hispano.org | 07:31 |
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| === Xlusive_ is now known as Xlusive | ||
| aiena | I was simulating a broken system in a vm and was trying to boot a real rootfs mounted from the initramfs. So What I did is mounted the root to /root in the initramfs moved (with mount --move ) the /dev, /sys and /proc to /root/dev /root/sys and /root/proc and then tried doing `switch_root /root /sbin/init` but this results in a kernel panic. How do | 09:54 |
| aiena | I correctly boot a rootfs from an initramfs shell in ubuntu? | 09:54 |
| neoli | I accidentally deleted important data, several 50KiB txt files in the same SSD were ubuntu is installed. Is there any way to try n recover them? | 09:58 |
| aiena | there most likely is a way. shutdown this system and don't use it. On another harddisk install ubuntu and boot it. Then mount the partitions on the main drive as read only and use some data recovery software to get back those file on the new HDD. | 09:59 |
| aiena | finally migrate them back with the right permissions | 10:00 |
| aiena | neoli can try some of these https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/top-best-linux-data-recovery-tools | 10:02 |
| aiena | make sure to mount the partitions as read only of the source so you dont accidentally clobber data and can recover most of not all of it. | 10:02 |
| aiena | *most if not all of | 10:03 |
| aiena | neoli gnome etc may write to the disk so its best not to let any other bg processes write to the disk | 10:04 |
| neoli | thanks aiena | 10:07 |
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| === gschanuel5378 is now known as gschanuel537 | ||
| aiena | Is there any ubuntu docuentation on booting from an initramfs shell | 11:36 |
| JanC | aiena: when you are in initramfs you already started "booting"; do you want to (try to) continue booting or do you want to reboot from there? | 11:56 |
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| bockring | あなたは日本語でチャットをすることができますか？ | 12:51 |
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| ael | miau | 13:21 |
| === wdb5 is now known as wdb | ||
| neoli | I backup my computer, but I only copied my home directory, including hidden files. I now plan to nuke the notebook installing 24.04 from the live usb. Is there any other file or directory I need to backup before I nuke? maybe something from /etc/apt? | 14:07 |
| Asif | Looking for help with a newly reported bug with systemd/gmd3, can anyone point me in the right direction ? | 14:18 |
| lotuspsychje | Asif: can you elaborate whats heppening please | 14:31 |
| Asif | Sure, on logout we can see username and password in plain text on the console screen before it switches back to the login window | 14:42 |
| Asif | I have opened a bug report. 2066363 | 14:43 |
| neoli | the command history, does it print every command from every open tab? cause I use several tabs at once. And what about root and sudo commands? | 15:12 |
| Asif | its not a command history, just last 2 username/passwords | 15:12 |
| neoli | in recovery mode logged in as tty1, how do I copy the output of dpkg -l to an external usb stick? | 15:28 |
| neoli | same for history | 15:28 |
| webchat35 | Hello, not sure this is right forum. But I'm wondering if there is a setting to allow the scaling set under display setting, to also be available at login screen in Ubuntu 24.04. | 15:31 |
| webchat35 | I have a high DPI screen and run at 200% scale. But during login everything is super tiny :/ | 15:31 |
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| === ubuntu is now known as Guest409 | ||
| cbreak | webchat35: with kubuntu, there's a button to apply the current user's settings to sddm labeled "Apply Plasma Settings" | 15:54 |
| cbreak | if you use gnome with gdm I think, there might be something similar somewhere in the settings, maybe, although nome is usually stingy with customization | 15:55 |
| lotuspsychje | Asif: can you: apport-collect 2066363 , from your terminal to pull in logs into your bug ID please? | 17:17 |
| rustisafungus | i am on an up-to-date latest stable ubuntu using an up-to-date nvidia driver (if that is relevant) and i am finding that **vim** of all things in my terminal has periodic lags. i don't have any installed programs which appear to be causing this lag (top is showing negligible cpu usage)... what is going on? | 17:29 |
| rustisafungus | that is to say, i will be using vim and press a button,... 90% of the time it responds immediately, but 10% of the time it can take maybe a quarter of a second to half a second to respond! | 17:30 |
| rustisafungus | and i am working with small text files for this, so it isn't some kind of filesize thing | 17:30 |
| lotuspsychje | rustisafungus: wich ubuntu release is this, with wich nvidia driver version? | 17:30 |
| leftyfb | rustisafungus: ( uname -a ; cat /etc/os-release ) | nc termbin.com 9999 | 17:31 |
| rustisafungus | https://paste.rs/tBRQW.txt <-- that's your release and driver info | 17:33 |
| rustisafungus | this seems to be happening in other terminal apps as well--i am typing here in a terminal irc client and am getting intermittent lag. it's rather annoying actually, i would say about every five seconds or so i am lagging | 17:34 |
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| lotuspsychje | rustisafungus: xorg or wayland? since when did you have these lags? nvidia-smi to see your nvidia driver version and can we see a paste of your full dmesg plz? | 17:41 |
| oxfuxxx | hey | 17:42 |
| gimbleguy | oxfuxxx: hello | 17:44 |
| rustisafungus | lotuspsychje: full dmesg: https://paste.rs/qS7hJ.txt | 17:44 |
| rustisafungus | i only started noticing these lags today | 17:44 |
| rustisafungus | https://paste.rs/Xe3OZ.txt <-- nvidia-smi | 17:45 |
| rustisafungus | echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE reports x11 | 17:46 |
| lotuspsychje | rustisafungus: did you manualy install nvidia 555 to experiment? | 17:46 |
| CosmicDJ | rustisafungus: is the nvidia-555 an official driver or did you install manually? | 17:46 |
| rustisafungus | i used these commands to install my nvidia driver: | 17:47 |
| rustisafungus | https://paste.rs/QsnCA.txt | 17:48 |
| rustisafungus | note that this is also a windows10pro/ubuntu dual boot system | 17:48 |
| rustisafungus | my lag i would say is actually closer to a full second... it's rather intense | 17:49 |
| ravage | and why 555? | 17:53 |
| ravage | which version is recommended if you open additional drivers | 17:53 |
| CosmicDJ | is there even a nvidia-driver-555 package? IIRC the latest non-ppa is 550 | 17:54 |
| lotuspsychje | 555 is beta, and will get better wayland support | 17:54 |
| lotuspsychje | not in repos yet, nor ubuntu graphics ppa | 17:55 |
| ravage | And I had the lag problem on 24.04 Xorg too | 17:55 |
| ravage | switching to Wayland fixed it | 17:55 |
| ravage | but I would try a supported version of the driver First | 17:55 |
| rustisafungus | i had installed the 535 nvidia driver before this and it had the same problem | 17:59 |
| rustisafungus | ravage: oh interesting, so this is something people are trying to nail down? | 18:00 |
| rustisafungus | i've been wayland-curious but haven't tried it yet, i kept reading that people had issues,... i guess i'll try it now lol | 18:03 |
| rustisafungus | alright, brb reboot | 18:04 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | wow um, i think switching to wayland fixed the problem. | 18:06 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | thanks for the tip! | 18:06 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | i had actually saved an edit to some source code using vim which was incorrect due to the lag | 18:07 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | i guess please make wayland the default then, this was quite a pain! ;-) | 18:12 |
| pragmaticenigma | segfaultfizzbuzz, it's already in progress | 18:15 |
| Asif | @lotuspsychje I will get that added | 18:15 |
| lotuspsychje | Asif: tnx, that will be more handy for the developers to trace your issue/bug | 18:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | segfaultfizzbuzz, Also, wayland should be the default. When you login there's the option to select between a X.org session and Wayland session, and on a fresh install it should be set to Wayland. | 18:17 |
| lotuspsychje | pragmaticenigma: segfaultfizzbuzz claimed earlier he had vim lags after installing the beta nvidia 555 driver | 18:19 |
| Asif | @lotuspsychje The system is in an air-gapped environment. Is there a way to collect the logs offline and upload ? | 18:20 |
| pragmaticenigma | segfaultfizzbuzz, ( lotuspsychje ) which graphics card? | 18:21 |
| leftist | maybe i should have used a different email cause i still have not received the reg email...grrr | 18:21 |
| lotuspsychje | Asif: if no internet available nearby, maybe best to upload the logs manualy when a developer asks for it then | 18:21 |
| Asif | Sure, will do | 18:22 |
| lotuspsychje | pragmaticenigma: https://paste.rs/qS7hJ.txt | 18:22 |
| pragmaticenigma | I might be over looking it, but no where in that dump is the graphics card model number which is what I'm looking for | 18:26 |
| az8 | hi, I am facing a problem installing ubuntu. The installer doesn't display any image, I get a blank screen. However it works if I boot in Safe Mode. I am able to install ubuntu in safe mode, but after rebooting, I face the same issue, blank screen. | 18:57 |
| az8 | I suspect a graphic card driver problem. I have a AMD/ATI HD7850 | 18:57 |
| az8 | idk how to make this graphics card work with ubuntu, is there a way? | 18:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | az8, If you have onbaord graphics for that machine, see if that display output is working? | 19:01 |
| az8 | it doesn't have onboard graphics | 19:05 |
| az8 | the card is a Pitcairn - HD7850. I am searching online, and it seems like it is a complicated card to get to work with Linux | 19:06 |
| az8 | But I think I had it working before | 19:06 |
| bprompt | !nomodeset | az8 | 19:14 |
| ubottu | az8: Systems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there. | 19:14 |
| bprompt | az8: maybe give that a shot, sometimes it can be an issue with the ACPI as well, and you can give a shot at those acpi boot switches | 19:15 |
| bprompt | az8: that said, usually AMD's site has Linux drivers for some models, usually a .tgz or .tar.gz file, unpack it and run the .run file | 19:16 |
| az8 | bprompt I checked, and there is a driver for my card, dating back to 2015. I will see if I can boot the PC with nomodeset, if so I will try the proprietary drivers | 19:22 |
| bprompt | az8: try without the amdgpu drivers first, try to settle if you can for the native, because I have in the past use the amdgpu drivers from AMD's site, and it made no difference whatsoever in performance to the installation driver that I had | 19:23 |
| az8 | in the website, for my card it says fglrx 15.302 | 19:26 |
| az8 | wich are the closed source ones, I think | 19:27 |
| az8 | isn't amdgpu opensource? | 19:27 |
| bprompt | az8: hmmmm can't recall, I think is what I installed back then | 19:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | az8, doubtful the amdgpu drivers will support an 11+ year old GPU though | 19:28 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | pragmaticenigma: asus rtx 4070 gpu ... it was fixed by using wayland | 19:35 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | pragmaticenigma: if you tell me how to dump the graphics card model number i'll do it | 19:36 |
| bprompt | segfaultfizzbuzz: in the terminal ----> sudo lshw -C video <---- | 19:36 |
| pragmaticenigma | segfaultfizzbuzz, just knowing that it's Nvidia 4070 series is all that I needed. I've seen some people trying to use the latest Nvidia drivers on really old GTX cards and it's kind of like... there's not much going to happen by doing that | 19:37 |
| pragmaticenigma | segfaultfizzbuzz, I have doubts that wayland was the solve, but if it's working better for you, then I guess whatever it was is no longer an issue | 19:38 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | here is lspci | grep VGA 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 2786 (rev a1) | 19:38 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | pragmaticenigma: https://paste.rs/r0E0m.txt | 19:39 |
| antonio__ | Test | 19:41 |
| bprompt | antonio__: Failed! | 19:42 |
| antonio__ | Olá todos.. | 19:42 |
| bprompt | !es | antonio__ | 19:42 |
| ubottu | antonio__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 19:42 |
| pragmaticenigma | segfaultfizzbuzz, if you find yourself needing to return to a X.org session... the current advice is to downgrade to the 470 driver. | 19:42 |
| antonio__ | Em português? | 19:43 |
| bprompt | !pt | antonio__ | 19:43 |
| ubottu | antonio__: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada. | 19:43 |
| pragmaticenigma | segfaultfizzbuzz, the other solution I did see, was to make sure you're running the latest Firmware/BIOS for your machine. | 19:44 |
| antonio__ | Ok.. | 19:44 |
| PeGaSuS | erm.. there's a small typo on that ubottu message. it's "comunidade local portuguesa" and not "comunidade local portuguêsa", though | 19:54 |
| az8 | PeGaSuS, true | 19:56 |
| az8 | probably just added an "a" to português | 19:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | isn't the difference a dialect between Brazil and Portugal? | 19:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | meaning both are technically correct? | 19:59 |
| PeGaSuS | I don't think so. I think it's "portuguesa" in both dialects? | 20:02 |
| PeGaSuS | I just need to confirm with our brasilian friends :D | 20:03 |
| pragmaticenigma | The ê is commonly accented in Brazil, while in Europe it is not | 20:03 |
| pragmaticenigma | There's a lot of spelling and diacratic differences between the two regions, I would go with both are acceptable, but if anything, the channel ends in -br which is the country code of Brazil, and there they use the ê | 20:07 |
| PeGaSuS | we also have words with `ê`. but brasilians say "língua portuguesa" as in "portuguese language" | 20:07 |
| pragmaticenigma | the resident knowledge expert on ubotu could tell you were you'd need to suggest or request a fix, is out for the day. Check in with lotuspsychje when you see them active, they seem to have a finger on the pulse for ubotu | 20:09 |
| PeGaSuS | sure thing :) | 20:10 |
| az8 | bprompt, nomodeset works. I can boot ubuntu that kernel option | 20:56 |
| az8 | noapic, nolapic made no difference | 20:56 |
| bprompt | az8: hmm | 20:58 |
| bprompt | az8: meaning is not the acpm then, just a matter of graphics mode for the drivers | 20:59 |
| bprompt | az8: I have an amd videocard as well, and as I said, I saw no difference in performance from the installation driver | 21:00 |
| de-facto | Hello, is CUDA confirmed to be working on Ubuntu 24.04? | 21:27 |
| de-facto | thinking about upgrading from 22.04 to 24.04 but need CUDA | 21:27 |
| bprompt | !cuda | 21:32 |
| bprompt | de-facto: https://idroot.us/install-cuda-ubuntu-24-04/ | 21:33 |
| webchat27 | Hi! i have a problem with cups... For some reason lpstat -h 127.0.0.1631 -p works as expected, but lpstat -h xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:631 -p with external ip does not, Any idea where should i start looking? | 21:33 |
| webchat27 | i tried to make a wireshark log and this response from might be relevant, but i have no idea where to go from here | 21:35 |
| de-facto | sudo sh cuda_12.4.1_550.54.15_linux.run <--- hmm wouldnt it be better to use the ubuntu packages? | 21:35 |
| webchat27 | Server: CUPS/2.4 IPP/2.1..X-Frame-Options: DENY..Content-Security-Policy: frame-ancestors 'none' | 21:35 |
| leftyfb | webchat27: why do you need cups listening on anything other than localhost? | 21:35 |
| webchat27 | i am trying to print from multiple machines | 21:36 |
| leftyfb | ok? | 21:36 |
| leftyfb | webchat27: what does that have to do with cups listening on an interface/ip other than localhost? | 21:36 |
| JanC | you can always try if it works on the live CD... | 21:37 |
| leftyfb | webchat27: are you trying to print from 1 machine, to another machine and have the 2nd machine send the job to the printer? | 21:37 |
| webchat27 | yeah basically using that machine as a poor mans print server | 21:38 |
| JanC | de-facto: you can always try if CUDA works on the live CD... | 21:38 |
| leftyfb | webchat27: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install-and-configure-a-cups-print-server#:~:text=By%20default%20on%20Ubuntu%2C%20CUPS,addition%20of%20a%20Listen%20directive. | 21:38 |
| JanC | live image (CD/USB/whatever) | 21:39 |
| webchat27 | To instruct CUPS to listen on an actual network adapter’s IP address, you must specify either a hostname, the IP address, or (optionally) an IP address/port pairing via the addition of a Listen directive | 21:39 |
| de-facto | nope cant try that right now, its remote, i can upgrade or wait | 21:39 |
| webchat27 | so i've used 0.0.0.0 as the ip address | 21:39 |
| webchat27 | for testing | 21:40 |
| de-facto | just wanted to ask if there are good/bad experiences with 24.04 and cuda | 21:40 |
| leftyfb | webchat27: 0.0.0.0 is not a valid ip address | 21:40 |
| webchat27 | welp | 21:40 |
| leftyfb | webchat27: you could also try reading the rest of the documentation | 21:41 |
| webchat27 | I mean i am definitely going to... | 21:41 |
| webchat27 | idk why I expected 0.0.0.0 to work... | 21:41 |
| leftyfb | webchat27: you might find the exact answer you're looking for | 21:42 |
| JanC | you can boot live images on a remote system too, but it's more complicated of course... | 21:42 |
| JanC | or other images (probably easier) | 21:43 |
| de-facto | you can *listen* on a port with IP address 0.0.0.0 which means all interfaces iirc | 21:44 |
| webchat27 | yeah that is what i expected, not with cups... | 21:44 |
| leftyfb | de-facto: that won't work | 21:44 |
| webchat27 | exact nic ip adress worked liek a charm... | 21:44 |
| leftyfb | or if you read 3 sections down from the link I provided, it would have told you to comment out Listen and just specify "Port 631" which would make it listen on all interfaces | 21:45 |
| webchat27 | i had that in the config file | 21:47 |
| webchat27 | it did not work... | 21:47 |
| leftyfb | you had what exactly? | 21:47 |
| webchat27 | with the specific nic adress it does work | 21:47 |
| de-facto | looks like the package versions for nvidia and cuda are mostly the same for jammy compared to noble https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&keywords=nvidia&searchon=names | 21:48 |
| webchat27 | Listen 0.0.0.0:631 | 21:48 |
| webchat27 | Listen /var/run/cups/cups.sock | 21:48 |
| webchat27 | Port 631 | 21:48 |
| webchat27 | and this did not work | 21:49 |
| leftyfb | of course not, it's not valid and nothing in the documentation provided suggests such a config | 21:49 |
| de-facto | webchat27, just the port without any IP | 21:49 |
| leftyfb | nor does it match what I suggested from the documentation 4 minutes ago | 21:49 |
| webchat27 | uhm that was before I asked | 21:50 |
| leftyfb | 2024 May 28 17:45:40 <leftyfb>or if you read 3 sections down from the link I provided, it would have told you to comment out Listen and just specify "Port 631" which would make it listen on all interfaces | 21:51 |
| webchat27 | Listen 10.1.1.1:631 works | 21:51 |
| webchat27 | Port 631 does not (The listen line is deleted when this is there) | 21:51 |
| leftyfb | define "does not" work | 21:51 |
| leftyfb | what error did you get in the cups logs? | 21:51 |
| leftyfb | when you tried specifying "Port 631" and commented out any reference to ^Listen | 21:52 |
| webchat27 | no errors in the log but also no output for lpstat -h10.1.1.1:631 -p when running on a remote machine | 21:52 |
| webchat27 | but with Listen 10.1.1.1:631 all 3 printers are showing up | 21:53 |
| leftyfb | it does work with just Port 631 and Listen commented out. I just tested it | 21:54 |
| webchat27 | weird... | 21:55 |
| webchat27 | anyway this will be good enough for the nigh, thank you leftyfb and have a good night | 21:58 |
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| kalumi | heya | 22:37 |
| kalumi | anyone here? | 22:37 |
| kalumi | I have a lot of questions about customization in my Distro (specfically MInt XFCE) | 22:38 |
| rbox | !mint | 22:39 |
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