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| lords | how to update to lubuntu 24.04 through the terminal? | 02:46 |
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| lotuspsychje | !upgrade | lords | 02:46 |
| ubottu | lords: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade | 02:47 |
| lords | thanks | 02:47 |
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| taeaad | I have gpgsecurity@microsoft.com as one of my trusted software providers. Is this a default setting? | 09:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | if you have microsoft packages it's possible | 09:21 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | I don't believe default tho? | 09:23 |
| sixwheeledbeast | thinking Visual Studio? | 09:24 |
| taeaad | sixwheeledbeast: OK let me see what I have. | 09:25 |
| taeaad | Could be MS Teams. | 09:26 |
| sixwheeledbeast | yep that as well | 09:27 |
| taeaad | Is there a way to check which repos are used by which programs? So e.g. which are checking packages.microsoft.com? | 09:30 |
| ravage | you can try https://github.com/ericj112/ppa-tool | 09:35 |
| taeaad | ravage: Thanks. | 09:38 |
| fdan | hi there, i use this kernel version. i want to download cpupower and cpufreq-info binary | 09:39 |
| fdan | kernel version: 5.15.0-71-generic | 09:39 |
| fdan | anyone? | 09:44 |
| Lemon_Pick | I don't access to this level. | 09:49 |
| Lemon_Pick | or manufacturing. | 09:50 |
| Lemon_Pick | So I won't have to lie above my actual lies. | 09:50 |
| Lemon_Pick | So the coffee won't need to be gone, cold. | 09:52 |
| stenno | good day, after changing configuration in /etc/netplan/00-installer-config.yaml, what do i have to do in order for those changes to apply? | 11:36 |
| stenno | i tried `systemctl restart systemd-networkd`, but that was not it | 11:36 |
| stenno | i ended up rebooting the whole machine, so the changes were applied during reboot | 11:36 |
| vortexx | fdan: yes with that kernel you can use the cpufrequtils | 11:47 |
| lowtierlearner2 | does -setcache=# work as a wine launcher option, like it does on windows programs/shortcuts ? I tested it and it doesn't crash but it doesn't speed things up either, so I figured I ask since chat is dead. If anyone was talking I'd continue working on it myself, but something to talk about is nice. | 12:35 |
| leftyfb | !wine | lowtierlearner2 | 12:36 |
| ubottu | lowtierlearner2: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu | 12:36 |
| lowtierlearner2 | WINE is a compatibility layer. that still doesn't tell me if -setcache is implemented or seen as unsafe enough to not be included in WINE. Thank you for the automated response, I can google the rest. | 12:39 |
| leftyfb | or completely ignore the mention of the dedicated #winehq channel to ask for help | 12:40 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:29 |
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| segfaultfizzbuzz | okay so i had this horrible lag problem with xorg on the latest stable ubuntu (Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS) and nvidia (rtx4070+nvidia-driver-555) so i switched to wayland... everything was great until i suspended my computer | 15:28 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | now when i wake my machine, it only kinda works--the icons are missing, text is missing from menus (such as the shutdown menu), and there are other such issues | 15:29 |
| leftyfb | reboot and don't suspend | 15:32 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | right, that fixes it, but uh, i need to suspend to live my life | 15:32 |
| leftyfb | save your life? | 15:33 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | what...? | 15:33 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | i need to be able to suspend | 15:33 |
| kk1234 | segfaultfizzbuzz just leave it on 24/7 | 15:33 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | what lol noo | 15:33 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | rebooting is such a pain | 15:33 |
| leftyfb | shut it down, don't suspend | 15:33 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | seriously, wayland suspend is a wontfix then...??? | 15:34 |
| leftyfb | suspend = time wasted trying to deal with suspend issues shutdown = boots without issue | 15:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | segfaultfizzbuzz: i'm affraid you will find little sympathy or help for suspend. It has never been a reliable power management feature, even for windows. If you're machine is new enough, it shouldn't take that long to boot from a cold start compared to suspend. If it does, then there are other things to investigate. | 15:35 |
| kk1234 | segfaultfizzbuzz I've been keeping a ubuntu netbook (like 8W power consumption) on for the last 15 years nothing bad has happened to it, yet | 15:35 |
| leftyfb | segfaultfizzbuzz: In the 30+ years I've been using computers, zero OS's have ever got suspend problem-free | 15:35 |
| kk1234 | 24/7 | 15:35 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | wow really? windows and macOS work fine for me, and xorg suspend worked for me on ubuntu just last week | 15:36 |
| pragmaticenigma | wouldn't put macOS on there... Apple controls the hardware to the software... they can make it work | 15:36 |
| leftyfb | "work fine for me" doesn't mean they are problem-free. You might not notice the issues, but they are there. Other people do have issues with ti | 15:36 |
| leftyfb | it* | 15:36 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | well okay, but furthermore this seems to be a graphical issue, and a fairly superficial one at that...? | 15:37 |
| leftyfb | segfaultfizzbuzz: it's a suspend + nvidia issue | 15:37 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | but the gui state can be reconstructed from scratch after waking right? | 15:38 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | like it doesn't need to recall whatever was in VRAM prior to sleeping | 15:39 |
| pragmaticenigma | nvidia, till recently, hasn't been friendly with wayland. The features to make nvidia and wayland play nicely together have only just started to be releaed, and are not in the latest release of Ubuntu. Go to nearly any linux distribution channel and ask, you will get an overwhelming response of people saying the same thing. Stop trying to suspend your machine. | 15:39 |
| leftyfb | reboot and don't suspend. Feel free to report a bug on launchpad | 15:39 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | ok but can i ask about this from a like functional programming-y kind of perspective | 15:39 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | if you needed to do something like render DRM content without reloading it after waking from sleep, then i could understand that making sense | 15:40 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | ...or, put another way, isn't there somewhere in wayland a "refresh_my_gui_from_scratch()" function? | 15:41 |
| pragmaticenigma | you're talking nonsense giberish now | 15:41 |
| leftyfb | reboot and don't suspend. Feel free to report a bug on launchpad | 15:41 |
| JanC | I agree that suspend should work right | 15:41 |
| kk1234 | segfaultfizzbuzz I bet it's way more complicated than that, I mean hardware + systemland + userland working in unison | 15:41 |
| kk1234 | segfaultfizzbuzz to achieve a problem free suspend/wake | 15:42 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | okay well i will stop asking about this now--but there really ought to be a command somewhere in wayland which rebuilds the gui from scratch (like "reboot wayland instead of my entire computer") and it could do that rebuild on wake | 15:42 |
| lotuspsychje | segfaultfizzbuzz: did you try rolling back to a support nvidia driver version to test your suspend on? | 15:43 |
| JanC | segfaultfizzbuzz: probably better to fix the lag problem | 15:43 |
| leftyfb | segfaultfizzbuzz: rebooting the computer will be quicker | 15:43 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | lotuspsychje: i can't because i am trying to get jax to work (and was successful) | 15:43 |
| pragmaticenigma | segfaultfizzbuzz, there is nothing there like that... what you have effectively described is only possible from a cold start or reboot | 15:44 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | pragmaticenigma: ...but in the old days i would be able to boot to a terminal, run startx, and then quit x to go back to a terminal, and then run startx again if i wanted to... | 15:45 |
| leftyfb | segfaultfizzbuzz: honestly, suspend was supposed to be a "solution" to the issue of old computers taking a long time to POST and boot the OS. That's not really an issue these days, especially with linux. | 15:45 |
| JanC | leftyfb: rebooting doesn't restore state, so it's obviously not the same | 15:45 |
| leftyfb | just open the apps again. Literally takes seconds, not minutes | 15:45 |
| JanC | and most applications can't restore state | 15:46 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | lefty: interesting... so maybe then ubuntu should stop supporting suspend entirely | 15:46 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | it's like, if you are going to support it, then do a good job, and if not, then don't | 15:46 |
| JanC | and some applications literally take minutes to start (especially to restore state manually) | 15:46 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | JanC: understood | 15:46 |
| JanC | suspend should just work, and if it doesn't that's a bug | 15:47 |
| leftyfb | file a bug | 15:47 |
| JanC | but "horrible lag problem with xorg" is a bug too | 15:47 |
| JanC | which seems to have been the original problem here | 15:48 |
| pragmaticenigma | segfaultfizzbuzz, you're mixing things together that have no relation to one another. and in your description, you're tearing down an entire process only to "RESTART" it... it starts from point zero again. You can't do that when the system is already live... you have to sequentially tear down all the things that are running and rebuild them. And modern system aren't layered that way anymore. That's why the boot up is so much faster, as | 15:48 |
| pragmaticenigma | many things are now started in parallel. resulting in better system stability as things that used to stack on top of each other are no longer stacked, such that if something lower in the stack failed then, it segfaulted the entire machine, whereas today the system is likely able to recover that stack independent of the others and continue to run or at the very least, safely get itself to shut down | 15:48 |
| JanC | to me, it sounds like there is either a problem with the nvidia driver of with the graphics hardware... | 15:48 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | i am imagining that copying memory from VRAM to system RAM is a security hazard and should be disallowed in gui code, which is why i am thinking that rerendering the gui from scratch should be no big deal because the flow of information ought to be strictly to the GPU | 15:49 |
| JanC | both Wayland & Xorg can re-render the GUI easily | 15:49 |
| pragmaticenigma | it's a known issue with Gnome terminal (not specifically that program, just manifiests itself noticably there) and Nvidia. You could try a different terminal emulator in an X session, which others have claimed resolved their issues. | 15:49 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | JanC: yeah so, just add a line of code which says "when wake from sleep run wayland_rerender()" | 15:50 |
| JanC | I'm pretty sure it already does that | 15:51 |
| pragmaticenigma | It does not do that... and drawing anything to screen is far more complex than the scope of this channel is really intended for. | 15:52 |
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| JanC | pragmaticenigma: is that an officially supported (by Ubuntu) driver you are using? | 15:58 |
| JanC | I mean segfaultfizzbuzz | 15:58 |
| pragmaticenigma | In most modern system the act of suspending: Clocks down the CPU, and usually only leaves one core operational to be able to continue the ability of the system to keep the RAM alive. Few if any other operations are allowed in the suspended state, outside of wake events. | 15:59 |
| pragmaticenigma | JanC, The driver they are using and instructions the used to install it made use of the official Ubuntu repositories. However, they are attempting to run the latest driver. And in most other forums, I read (and noted yesterday) that the recommendation is to use the 470 driver not the latest 555 series driver, if the Gnome Terminal issue becomes a concern. The solution to their problem is to either run the 470 series driver, or use wayland. | 16:01 |
| pragmaticenigma | !latest | per the sage advice of many, segfaultfizzbuzz | 16:02 |
| ubottu | per the sage advice of many, segfaultfizzbuzz: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa. | 16:02 |
| JanC | so these are known bugs in the upstream drivers, or what? | 16:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | None that have been confirmed, the driver was released a week ago, not enough time in the wild to mass enough people capable of filing a bug report | 16:02 |
| JanC | well, you mention running the 470 is recommended, so there must be known bugs? | 16:03 |
| JanC | either bugs in Gnome terminal or in the driver... | 16:05 |
| JanC | also, bugs in in the driver related to suspend | 16:05 |
| pragmaticenigma | I'd have to track down all the same research I did yesterday to find it... The problem is that the issue appears in Gnome Terminal, and only after a significant amount of time has past with the Gnome Terminal window left open. To me that suggests a memory leak, but why only the nvidia driver? So if it is a bug, it's in the Nvidia driver more than likely. | 16:05 |
| JanC | well, in theory it's also possible that Gnome Terminal does something different depending on driver features & the bug is there | 16:07 |
| pragmaticenigma | which is where the downgrade becomes the suggested option. personnally I have never seen much reason to run the latest driver for my graphics. Most of the updates are specific to updating application profiles to make things more compatible with the driver, not performance. | 16:07 |
| JanC | but considering the suspend issues, that really seems like a driver bug | 16:07 |
| pragmaticenigma | suspend issue is suspend issue... I have no idea if wayland has all its ducks in a row for that feature. if I was on the team, that'd be the furthest thing down on my todo list to worry about | 16:08 |
| JanC | suspend is an important feature for many users | 16:09 |
| pragmaticenigma | suspend is complex, in most cases, it's supposed to instruct the CPU to clock down and go to one core, just enough power to continue the instructions to keep the DRAM alive and refreshed. But every motherboard, CPU and firmware vendor out there interprets the specifications from Intel and Microsoft differently, so suspend as a dozen supported modes and guessing the right one is difficult, though improving | 16:09 |
| pragmaticenigma | I haven't been able to use standby on any of my systems, because the ones that it has worked, the wireless mouse's activity check routine is enough to trigger the machine to wake up. | 16:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | And with most CPUs capable of different clock speeds and voltages dependent on workload, my beefiest new machine typically sips less power than my machine of 10 years age | 16:11 |
| pragmaticenigma | when left to idle in the ON state | 16:12 |
| JanC | mouse wake-up (USB wake-up really) is usually an option in the firmware | 16:12 |
| pragmaticenigma | in this case, disabling that feature means the computer completely ignores all wake up attempts since the keyboard and mouse are on the same wireless receiver | 16:12 |
| JanC | anyway, my point was: if this is an officially supported driver in Ubuntu, they should file bug reports about all of them (starting with the "lag problem") | 16:13 |
| pragmaticenigma | Nvidia drivers are not official... haven't been for a long time, they're proprietary | 16:13 |
| JanC | they are in restricted, so "official" | 16:14 |
| JanC | although depends on nvidia to fix issues... | 16:14 |
| pragmaticenigma | Official in so much as Ubuntu makes it possible to install them... doesn't mean their fully supported | 16:14 |
| pragmaticenigma | exactly | 16:14 |
| JanC | still should be filed as bugs IMO | 16:15 |
| JanC | there is always a possibility the bug is in how some software use the driver | 16:16 |
| JanC | hm, lotuspsychje just points out this driver is not officially in Ubuntu yet, so that means it's completely unsupported | 16:17 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | okay,... well anyway at least thanks for recommending reboots as some spackle to handle this for now | 16:27 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | i think i will go update my bios. pray that i don't brick my computer, see ya folks | 16:27 |
| segfaultfizzbuzz | i chickened out, couldn't bring myself to touch the bios lol | 16:34 |
| archpc | quick question, how do I get the default Noble mirror list? or change it to a USA mirror | 16:34 |
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| leftyfb | archpc: edit /etc/apt/sources.list | 16:36 |
| ravage | https://p.haxxors.com/noble.txt should be good as a default if your did not add anything in there yourself | 16:36 |
| oerheks | there is a copy /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list to /etc/apt/source.list and enable universe again | 16:38 |
| archpc | leftyfb, I would, but it's on a VPS and they had their own sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources, and it's 404'ing a lot | 16:41 |
| archpc | ravage, thanks :D | 16:41 |
| leftyfb | archpc: contact your VPS for support then | 16:42 |
| oerheks | sources.list.d/lists are not affected | 16:43 |
| * archpc gets in touch with his provider | 16:52 | |
| Guest28 | Hi. Puzzle me this, if I am on KDE and Wayland, and I have multiple monitors, how can I turn one of them off from command line? And back on? From command line. | 17:19 |
| neoli | to use transmission I need to open a port, but does it have to be tcp or udp? Im using iptables | 17:48 |
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| oerheks | with UFW it would be simply: sudo ufw enable transmission | 17:58 |
| oerheks | !iptables | 17:58 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | 17:58 |
| leftyfb | neoli: have you enabled ufw or implemented iptables? Neither are enabled by default on ubuntu and should not require opening anything | 17:59 |
| JanC | shouldn't that factoid (also) mention nftables nowadays? | 18:00 |
| oerheks | install gufw as gui | 18:00 |
| leftyfb | gross | 18:00 |
| oerheks | yes, from 20.04 it is nftables | 18:00 |
| oerheks | or 20.10? | 18:01 |
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| neoli | I wonder as a newbie about the differences between using oerheks ś command and iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport 3389 -j ACCEPT | 18:17 |
| neoli | your command opens all port and mine just one? | 18:18 |
| oerheks | ufw is the standard tool in ubuntu. | 18:18 |
| oerheks | yes, convenient. | 18:18 |
| neoli | can ports be used to attack my computer? | 18:18 |
| oerheks | that is where ufw / firewall is for. | 18:19 |
| leftyfb | neoli: have you enabled ufw on your default install of ubuntu? | 18:19 |
| oerheks | and there is additional fail2ban | 18:20 |
| leftyfb | which isn't needed at all if they are at home behind a router without any ports forwarded nor doing any sort of reverse tunneling or proxying | 18:20 |
| leftyfb | there's a lot of back and forth here about ufw, iptables, nftables, "attack"ing and no confirmation that they even have a firewall enabled on the machine or even need it | 18:21 |
| geeky | so the black screen problem is unique to 24.04 | 18:37 |
| geeky | it seems fedora 40 works fine, but the default 24.04 (gnome) and kubuntu 24.04 are both going to black screen when trying to usb boot. 23.10 doesn't seem to be having that problem either. | 18:39 |
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| aiena | I was playing around in the initramfs shell. I noticed that I if I mount the real root partition to /root there and then run `exec switch_root /root` the linux system boots up fine but if I mount the rootfs to /mnt and use `exec switch_root /mnt` switch_root tries to mount /sy,/proc etc still to /root and I get a kernel panic any idea why this happens? | 19:05 |
| leftyfb | aiena: why are you trying to mount root manually? | 19:07 |
| aiena | just learning the boot process | 19:07 |
| aiena | I am interested in how pivot_root switch_root and run_init etc. work | 19:08 |
| leftyfb | pivot_root is a magical thing :) | 19:09 |
| aiena | i also realised in the process that single user mode is actually after the main rootfs is mounted too. | 19:09 |
| aiena | is pibot_root still used | 19:09 |
| leftyfb | I used it for some real break-glass remote stuff a while back | 19:10 |
| aiena | or was it only impt during the intrd days | 19:10 |
| leftyfb | I don't know. I played with it back in 2019 and it worked 95% for my needs | 19:10 |
| aiena | unofrtunaltely never used it | 19:10 |
| leftyfb | still got the PR up called "nuke from orbit" :) | 19:10 |
| aiena | was fascinated with unmkinitramfs | 19:10 |
| aiena | and starting poking around how the initramfs we never see actually boots up the thing we see | 19:11 |
| aiena | the invisible magical linux kernel helper | 19:11 |
| aiena | leftyfb: I fooled grub into giving me the initramfs shell by removing the root=UUID=xxx parameter to the kernel in grub | 19:14 |
| aiena | made a grub2 menuentry with that so I dont have to edit it all the time | 19:14 |
| aiena | now I am exploring switch_root run_init etc there | 19:14 |
| aiena | leftyfb: the funny thing is the man page says 'switch_root moves already mounted /proc, /dev, /sys and /run to newroot..' since newroot is /mnt it should have mounted proc to /mnt/proc | 19:18 |
| aiena | err moved the mount of /proc to /mnt/proc | 19:18 |
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| gaelheart | fresh install. app center doesnt show debian packages only snap | 19:28 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: fresh install of what release of ubuntu? | 19:29 |
| gaelheart | 24.04 LTS | 19:29 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: which package are you searching for? | 19:30 |
| pyeverything | could you please help me with this issue? https://stackoverflow.com/questions/78551598/nvidia-tao-deploy-docker-importerror-libcuda-so-1-cannot-open-shared-object ImportError: libcuda.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 19:31 |
| gaelheart | i tried searching for various packages, it just says not found | 19:32 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: please give a specific example | 19:32 |
| aiena | pyeverything: I think you need to ask the creators of that docker container for help | 19:35 |
| gaelheart | i searched for the word youtube for example and many others | 19:35 |
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| aiena | gaelheart: hmm theres no package called youtube search for a something more sane like say "gvim" | 19:36 |
| aiena | also what command are you using to search for packages | 19:36 |
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| aiena | or are you searching through the gui? | 19:36 |
| gaelheart | "No results found for gvim" | 19:36 |
| gaelheart | gui app store | 19:36 |
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| gaelheart | apt works | 19:37 |
| sybariten | so, a couple of editor related questions. "jed" isn't typically shipped with ubuntu, is it? | 19:37 |
| leftyfb | the software store only shows apps that have icons (.desktop file) as part of their package manifest | 19:37 |
| leftyfb | gvim is not a valid package name | 19:37 |
| gaelheart | i tried on another local account. didnt work | 19:37 |
| gaelheart | let me try gimp. one sec | 19:38 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: also try pidgin | 19:38 |
| gaelheart | no results for gimp | 19:39 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: in a terminal run: ( sudo apt update ; apt-cache policy pidgin )| nc termbin.com 9999 | 19:39 |
| leftyfb | gimp is in the apt repo as well as snap | 19:39 |
| gaelheart | no results for pidgin | 19:39 |
| gaelheart | sudo apt update ; apt-cache policy pidgin )| nc termbin.com 9999 | 19:40 |
| gaelheart | bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)' | 19:40 |
| leftyfb | ( sudo apt update ; apt-cache policy pidgin )| nc termbin.com 9999 | 19:40 |
| leftyfb | you missed the leading ( | 19:40 |
| gaelheart | WARNING: apt does not have a stable CLI interface. Use with caution in scripts. | 19:41 |
| gaelheart | https://termbin.com/fnwx | 19:41 |
| leftyfb | you seem to be missing something | 19:41 |
| leftyfb | apt-cache policy gimp | 19:41 |
| leftyfb | or apt-cache policy pidgin | 19:41 |
| gaelheart | can i reinstal the app store somehow? | 19:41 |
| leftyfb | you probably don't have the universe repo enabled | 19:41 |
| gaelheart | udo apt-cache policy gimp | 19:42 |
| gaelheart | gimp: | 19:42 |
| gaelheart | Installed: 2.10.36-3ubuntu0.24.04.1 | 19:42 |
| gaelheart | Candidate: 2.10.36-3ubuntu0.24.04. ... etc | 19:42 |
| leftyfb | apt-cache policy gimp | nc termbin.com 9999 | 19:43 |
| leftyfb | ... etc is important information | 19:43 |
| gaelheart | i added .. etc | 19:43 |
| leftyfb | apt-cache policy gimp | nc termbin.com 9999 | 19:44 |
| gaelheart | long output | 19:44 |
| gaelheart | sudo apt-cache policy gimp | nc termbin.com 9999 | 19:44 |
| gaelheart | https://termbin.com/1aq0 | 19:44 |
| leftyfb | ok, and when searching gimp in the software center nothing is coming up? Are you waiting a bit for the results to show? | 19:44 |
| gaelheart | sudo apt-cache policy gimp | 19:44 |
| gaelheart | gimp: | 19:44 |
| gaelheart | Installed: 2.10.36-3ubuntu0.24.04.1 | 19:44 |
| gaelheart | Candidate: 2.10.36-3ubuntu0.24.04.1 | 19:44 |
| gaelheart | Version table: | 19:44 |
| gaelheart | *** 2.10.36-3ubuntu0.24.04.1 500 | 19:44 |
| gaelheart | 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu noble-updates/universe amd64 Packages | 19:44 |
| leftyfb | Can you screenshot the window with the search results? | 19:44 |
| * leftyfb sigh | 19:44 | |
| aiena | gaelheart: oh the app store thingy I have never really used | 19:45 |
| leftyfb | Can you screenshot the window with the search results? | 19:46 |
| gaelheart | i took a screenshot | 19:46 |
| leftyfb | please past a link to the screenshot | 19:46 |
| leftyfb | you can use something like imgur.com | 19:46 |
| aiena | I just use the terminal for literally everything. Even forcing snap updates. | 19:46 |
| gaelheart | one sec | 19:46 |
| leftyfb | aiena: while I agree with this, that isn't what they're asking for help with | 19:47 |
| oerheks | maybe a snapd update pending.. | 19:47 |
| leftyfb | oerheks: one step at a time, I'm getting there :) | 19:47 |
| gaelheart | https://imgur.com/a/mVnQYcU | 19:50 |
| leftyfb | gaelheart: sudo snap refresh # you don't have to paste the output. If there's an error, please let us know | 19:51 |
| gaelheart | no error. says up to date | 19:52 |
| gaelheart | synaptic package manager works | 19:53 |
| gaelheart | i dont need to use app center but its very convenient | 19:58 |
| leftyfb | not really | 19:58 |
| leftyfb | it's a LOT slower than just using the terminal | 19:58 |
| oerheks | just giving meta packages.. | 19:58 |
| oerheks | not sure how to reset app center, pkill it? | 19:59 |
| gaelheart | ok ill kill it | 19:59 |
| gaelheart | nope still no results | 20:01 |
| gaelheart | i rebooted didnt work | 20:02 |
| gaelheart | maybe i should just reinstall ubuntu | 20:08 |
| gaelheart | yeah Im gonna reinstall i think | 20:11 |
| gaelheart | bizarre | 20:11 |
| neoli | Nftables is not installed by default in 24.04, is that wanted? | 20:16 |
| leftyfb | it's not needed | 20:16 |
| leftyfb | neoli: have you enabled UFW or implemented any firewall rules? | 20:16 |
| gaelheart | reinstalled. | 20:44 |
| gaelheart | still dont work | 20:45 |
| gaelheart | no results for debian packages | 20:46 |
| stenno | does the domain resolve to the correct ip? maybe there is a dns issue? | 20:47 |
| sybariten | do you know what your SUDO_EDITOR is typically set to as default? | 21:00 |
| oerheks | see env_editor https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/noble/en/man5/sudoers.5.html | 21:13 |
| oerheks | the only part where sudo_editor is used | 21:13 |
| oerheks | You can set or change the SUDO_EDITOR environment variable. If you use bash, edit the .bashrc file. | 21:15 |
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| canurabus | hi all. In /sbin, there are two ldconfig files: "ldconfig" and "ldconfig.real". The former is a wrapper script that calls the latter. Does anyone know what the wrapper script is actually doing? It seems to test some env vars and then uses `dpkg-trigger` (i dont know what that is)... | 21:42 |
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| cbreak | canurabus: it prevents running ldconfig in several situations | 22:01 |
| canurabus | Is it dangerous to remove ldconfig and rename ldconfig.real -> ldconfig? context: im building a minimal container image based off of the ubuntu base image. The minimal image isn't able to run the ldconfig wrapper script | 22:03 |
| micka83 | hi | 22:09 |
| game | hey | 23:13 |
| game | anyone here? | 23:13 |
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| oerheks | " does ubuntu work on a EEE pc 32 bit " 🤪 | 23:45 |
| oerheks | https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1d3p30c/does_ubuntu_work_on_a_asus_eeepc_with_only_2_gigs/ | 23:46 |
| leftyfb | not any supported releases :) | 23:51 |
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