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bdrung#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team15:03
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bdrung#topic Lightning rounds15:03
bdrung#link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-05-30/45411/615:03
bdmurraySkia: What was the kernel bug regarding autopkgtest that might have been related to bug 2063094?15:05
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2063094 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "unattended-upgrades is running forever" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206309415:05
bdmurrayadrien: There was a thought that bug 2056461 might be related to your unattended-upgrades bug.15:08
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2056461 in linux (Ubuntu) "autopkgtest-virt-qemu on noble images sometimes hangs doing copydown" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205646115:08
Skiathere, you found it, sorry for the delay, I was busy posting my status late :/15:09
Skia(I also lost some time diving into adrien's new excuse page, it looks great!)15:10
adrienoh, that's a bit surprising15:10
adrienhost kernel is 6.1.0-15-amd6415:10
adrienSkia: :)15:11
bdmurrayI was seeing it on noble as was apw15:11
adrienit's not the first time I see that issue but I can't tell when was the first time15:11
adrienbdmurray: considering that seb had a very different backtrace, I wouldn't be surprised there are several bugs15:11
bdmurrayHrm, I'm not seeing bug 2056461 in the changelog for our linux package though...15:12
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2056461 in linux (Ubuntu) "autopkgtest-virt-qemu on noble images sometimes hangs doing copydown" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205646115:12
adrienalso, I'll be running dbus-monitor for a while; we'll see if something changes from there15:14
bdmurraySkia: Could you check with the kernel team about the fix?15:14
Skiasure15:15
bdrungdone with reading and ready to move on?15:16
bdmurrayI've finished reading15:17
bdrung#topic Release incoming bugs15:17
bdrung#link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:17
bdrungbug #206699515:18
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2066995 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-gtk keeps prompting to report crashes in a loop" [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206699515:18
schopinNo oo incoming?15:18
bdrung(doing nn before oo)15:18
bdrungthat bug needs triaging.15:19
bdrungschopin, could you have a look at it?15:20
schopinhem, that's a weird one?15:21
bdrungyes15:22
bdrungshould we keep it in incoming until next week to have it triaged by then?15:23
schopinOK with me. I'll spend some time looking over the logs in details.15:23
bdrungok. next: bug #206712015:24
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2067120 in apport (Ubuntu) "apport-retrace crashed with subprocess.CalledProcessError in check_call(): Command '['dpkg', '-x', '/srv/vms/apport-retrace/Ubuntu 24.04/apt/var/cache/apt/archives//base-files_13ubuntu9_amd64.deb', '/tmp/apport_sandbox_zj9wto2z']' returned non-zero exit status 2." [High, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206712015:24
bdrung@bdmurray, i suggested a fix for what i could see. Can you test if that fixes it for you as well?15:25
bdrungIMO we can tag this one as foundations-todo15:25
bdmurraybdrung: I will test it today15:25
bdrungokay. tagged.15:26
bdrungbug #206309415:27
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2063094 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "unattended-upgrades is running forever" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206309415:27
bdrungthis is the bug @Skia talked about previously15:31
bdrungshould we tag it? it looks important enough to me and @adrien provided logs (i did not look into unattended-upgrades-bt.tar.xz)15:32
ogayotI also think we should tag it15:33
bdrungtagged15:34
SkiaI think it's bdmurray that mentionned it, I don't have any context on this one, but I only know that it might be linked to LP#2056461 that I investigated from a very different angle15:34
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2056461 in linux (Ubuntu) "autopkgtest-virt-qemu on noble images sometimes hangs doing copydown" [Undecided, In Progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/205646115:34
schopindo we have enough to debug it?15:34
bdmurrayBased of what adrien said I'm somewhat concerned issues are being conflated here15:34
adrienI'm a bit surprised with the stacks I've been seeing: I would have assumed they don't take CPU time15:35
adrienmaybe the same operation fails repeatedly and is re-tried however15:36
adrienbut I was also planning to wait for Julian to look at the traces before thinking more about the issue15:36
bdrungadrien, will you carry that bug forward?15:36
bdrungnext: bug #206707115:37
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2067071 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "cannot upgrade from 23.10 to 24.04, error in _install_t64_replacement_packages" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206707115:37
bdrungoh, i see "TypeError: apport_excepthook() missing 1 required positional argument: 'exc_tb'" in there15:37
bdrungthe python stack trace looks simple enough to debug that. any objections to tagging it?15:38
adrienbdrung: no, I don't have time for that, especially since I'm not familiar with that and also since python-auth2client will be quite some work15:38
bdmurrayLet's hold leave the uanttended-upgrades bug for next week then15:39
bdmurrayenr0n: Are there any duplicates of bug 2067071?15:39
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2067071 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "cannot upgrade from 23.10 to 24.04, error in _install_t64_replacement_packages" [High, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206707115:39
enr0nYeah we should definitely take this. I wanted Julian's input on why the _cand would be None15:39
enr0nbdmurray: maybe, but I have not had time yet to go through all the recent bug reports15:39
bdrungtagged15:40
bdrung#link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-oo-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:40
bdrungbug #206320415:40
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2063204 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Desktop-Live ships /etc/netplan/01-network-manager-all.yaml in addition to /usr/lib/netplan/00-network-manager-all.yaml" [Medium, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206320415:40
bdrunglooks like there is a foundation discussion how to address it. objections to tagging it?15:42
bdrungtagged then.15:45
bdrungbug #196939415:45
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 1969394 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "'Settings & Livepatch' button opens 'settings' tab, not livepatch" [Low, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/196939415:45
bdmurraythat might be more desktop15:46
bdrungSeems more like an UI task that we can leave to the desktop team15:46
bdrungbug #206346715:46
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2063467 in needrestart (Ubuntu) "needrestart should mark services as needing a restart in systemd" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206346715:46
bdrungleaving it for next week for juliank to be back15:48
bdrungbug #206735015:48
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2067350 in glibc (Ubuntu) "Removal of 31-bit (s390) glibc packages" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206735015:48
bdrunglooks valid to me. schopin should we tag it?15:49
schopinas far as glibc is concerned I'm OK with this, but I'd like doko's ACK on it for the gcc part?15:50
bdrungschopin, can you get dokos response in the ticket? then let's keep it till next week.15:50
bdrungbug #201553815:51
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015538 in dbus-broker (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dbus-broker" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201553815:51
bdrungleave that to the desktop team15:51
bdrung#link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-mm-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:51
bdrungbug #204151815:51
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041518 in gtk+3.0 (Ubuntu) "/usr/share/apport/apport-gtk:5:_g_log_abort:g_log_writer_default:g_log_structured_array:g_log_structured_array:g_log_structured_standard" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204151815:51
bdrungthat is for the desktop team as well15:52
bdrungbug #204183115:52
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2041831 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "/usr/bin/update-manager:11:g_type_check_instance_is_fundamentally_a:g_object_ref:gdk_event_copy:pygi_boxed_copy_in_place:arg_boxed_to_py_cleanup" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/204183115:52
bdrungsame here15:52
bdrung#link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:52
bdrungnothing for foundations15:52
bdrung#link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs15:53
bdrungsame here. nothing for foundations15:53
bdrung#topic Team proposed-migration report15:53
bdrung#link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs15:53
adrienI started on the python-oauth2client and I think removal is doable but it will take some time as revdeps are not updated in packages :/15:55
bdrungfwupd-efi: vorlon (carry over from last week)15:56
bdrungpyopenssl: adrien (carry over from last week)15:56
bdrunggcc-13-cross: vorlon (carry over from last week)15:57
bdrunglibsub-override-perl: cpete (carry over from last week)15:57
bdrungncurses: zhsj15:58
bdrungopenssl vs nodejs: that screems adrien or should i pick someone else?15:59
adrienbdrung: "yeah"15:59
zhsjack15:59
bdrungdracut: me16:00
adrienit's expected that openssl 3.2 will fix it16:00
adrien(IIUC)16:00
bdrungnetplan.io: the netplan team16:00
bdrungsystemd vs the rest of the world: enr0n (carry over from last week)16:01
bdrungcryptsetup: schopin16:02
bdrungcurl vs nodejs: ogayot16:02
ogayotbdrung: ack16:02
bdrungsphinx: mkukri16:03
mkukriack16:03
bdrungapt: juliank16:03
mkukriisnt juliank ooo?16:04
bdrungdhcpcd: dbungert16:04
dbungertack16:05
bdrungjuliank, is ooo but will be back next week16:05
schopin(belated ack for cryptsetup)16:06
bdrunglzo2: dviererbe16:06
dviererbeack16:06
bdrungnow reaching the fresh ones16:07
bdrungall that did not get one can be happv16:07
bdrung#topic AOB16:07
bdrungspeak now or forever hold your peace16:08
bdrung#endmeeting16:08
meetingologyMeeting ended at 16:08:59 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-05-30-15.03.moin.txt16:08
Skiathanks!16:09
adrienmkukri: I take it that cryptsetup thing is not related to openssl >= 3.2 ?16:21
mkukrimerging cryptsetup requires new openssl. unless someone else uploaded a cryptsetup the regression should be unrelated16:28
adrienmkukri: ok, thanks16:44

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