| MisterMom | cbreak, thats what i thought but just wondered if something was changed. is grub the default for 24.04 ? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| cbreak | I think so, yes | 00:04 |
| cbreak | I'm using something else | 00:04 |
| MisterMom | ok i wont tell lol, thanks for your help. | 00:05 |
| MisterMom | im gonna go try this again now | 00:07 |
| webchat54 | Estou tendo problemas com o Ubuntu | 00:35 |
| tomreyn | !pt | webchat54 | 00:38 |
| ubottu | webchat54: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada. | 00:38 |
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| Emanuel | headless PI and can't get teamviwer to run because there is no frame buffer. Other than buying dummy plugs what can I do? | 00:56 |
| oerheks | Emanuel, you clearly did not do any research https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu+teamviewer+on+headless https://www.bing.com/search?q=ubuntu+teamviewer+on+headless | 01:25 |
| Emanuel | oerheks, I did my research and that did not work for me | 01:25 |
| Emanuel | "xserver-xorg-video-dummy" is isnstalled and I made xorg.conf diles | 01:26 |
| oerheks | that works wit x11 session, not wayland | 01:26 |
| oerheks | standard ubuntu runs wayland; logout change session and login again | 01:27 |
| Emanuel | oerheks, Thank you I will try that | 01:28 |
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| === chris14_ is now known as chris14 | ||
| SamuelMarks | hi | 02:43 |
| SamuelMarks | Just rebooted Ubuntu 24.04 after upgrading all its dependencies; now the login-screen size is really small and I can't click or ENTER into the password box. I'm in a non X non Wayland tty now on irssi. | 02:44 |
| SamuelMarks | How do I fix? - Tried another `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` to no avail | 02:44 |
| tomreyn | SamuelMarks: are you using nvidia proprietary graphics drivers? | 03:00 |
| tomreyn | you can reboot to grub, select the "Advanced" options and then boot a previous kernel version. this should at least let you work normally again for now. but you'll need to work out what caused the graphics driver to fail, i.e. review your logs (journalctl -b) | 03:02 |
| SamuelMarks | tomreyn - nope, amd and I need to recompile rocm because that still isn't working on my GPU | 03:06 |
| SamuelMarks | Oh also I'm on the new kernel | 03:06 |
| tomreyn | oh, it's probably somehow related to rocm, then. | 03:07 |
| SamuelMarks | 6.9.2 kernel | 03:07 |
| SamuelMarks | Nah I haven't even gotten it to compile yet; let alone installed it | 03:07 |
| tomreyn | noble's kernel is a 6.8 | 03:08 |
| SamuelMarks | yeah I upgrade I run mainline | 03:08 |
| SamuelMarks | let me try rebooting in 6.8 | 03:08 |
| SamuelMarks | oh that's surprising; I'm in 6.8.0 with graphics working | 03:11 |
| * SamuelMarks is downloading 6.9.3 to see if that fixes it | 03:12 | |
| Komu | Lerni | 03:24 |
| tomreyn | hello Komu, what do you mean? | 03:26 |
| Mestapheles | anyone notice issues with apparmor_parser hogging cpu, especially after startup since upgrading to 24.04? it's made working on my 8 yr old laptop pointless. | 03:46 |
| Mestapheles | apparmor_parsor and snap, horrible cpu hogs | 03:47 |
| === mekkis_ is now known as mekkis | ||
| alazy | I'm confused about how to get nvidia drivers. Running 24.04 with Nvidia 535.171.04. https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa shows 550.78 and 550.40.07 are available but 'ubuntu-drivers devices' tops out at nvidia-driver-545. Meanwhile, apt shows various nvidia packages at version 555. Am I looking at the wrong source for updated drivers? | 04:12 |
| psx | alazy did you add that ppa? | 04:14 |
| psx | for the love of the holy mother of god, how do I close a note in sticky? The only option I get is delete, no minimize or closing of one particular note (https://github.com/linuxmint/sticky) | 04:16 |
| alazy | psx: I must have. I'm dusting off a system I haven't used for a while. I have /etc/apt/sources.list.d/graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa.sources | 04:19 |
| psx | alazy sorry if this is obvious: sudo apt update? | 04:25 |
| alazy | psx: done that. apt update completes with no errors and includes Hit:5 http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu noble InRelease while the contents of graphics-drivers-ubuntu-ppa.sources = "Enabled: yes\nTypes: deb\nURIs: http://ppa.launchpad.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu\nSuites: noble\nComponents: main\nSigned-By: /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/graphics-drivers_ubuntu_ppa.gpg | 04:31 |
| Bashing-om | alazy: What card are we talking about ? pastebin the result - lspci -k | grep -iEA5 'vga|3d'- and let's see what the recommended driver is. | 04:40 |
| alazy | The only thing that seems out of place is that I can't navigate to the http://launchpat.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu URI in the .sources file, only to https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa where I see "deb https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/graphics-drivers/ppa/ubuntu noble main" as the recommended sources.list entry. | 04:42 |
| alazy | It's a 750 TI OC, Maxwell-generation. | 04:42 |
| alazy | More precisely, GM107 [GeForce GTX 750 Ti] (rev a2) | 04:44 |
| lotuspsychj3 | alazy: usualy the nvidia drivers on the ubuntu graphics ppa, are newer/latest then on the ubuntu repos | 04:44 |
| lotuspsychj3 | alazy: in most cases your ubuntu-drivers list, will show you the best/reccomended drivers for your specific card | 04:45 |
| alazy | lotuspsychj3: Yes, I'd like the newer drivers from the ppa. apt shows me 555 drivers but ubuntu-drivers does not. I don't understand the disconnect. | 04:48 |
| lotuspsychj3 | alazy: if you added the ubuntu ppa correctly, they should also show in your list | 04:49 |
| alazy | The 555 driver should show in the output of ubuntu-drivers list? But it doesn't. | 04:52 |
| Bashing-om | alazy: Yeah - you are right - Nvidia does recommend the 550 version driver: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/224350/en-us/ . | 04:52 |
| lotuspsychj3 | alazy: did you sudo apt update after ppa addy? | 04:53 |
| alazy | Yes, no apt errors. | 04:53 |
| lotuspsychj3 | hmmz weird | 04:54 |
| lotuspsychj3 | tha ubuntu graphics ppa, should give no conflicts usualy | 04:54 |
| lotuspsychj3 | alazy: what about in your additional drivers list? | 04:55 |
| alazy | output of ubuntu-drivers list includes nvidia-driver-{390,470,535,545}. | 04:59 |
| alazy | Should I expect ubuntu-drivers to reflect the ppa, or only base ubuntu? Because the 550 and 555 driver packages show up in apt. I've just heard that manually installing nvidia drivers any way but the 'ubuntu' way is often painful. | 05:01 |
| Bashing-om | alazy: Nvidia do say to use our "distribution's native package management format"// see under the Additional Information tab of the ups link. | 05:04 |
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| === NickH_ is now known as NickH | ||
| jaco | hello | 06:18 |
| jaco | which link is used for posting sceenshot | 06:19 |
| Komu | jaxo: just look at the paste link in #channel descirbtion | 06:36 |
| Komu | whar is THE learn link for systemd? | 06:40 |
| === ducasse_ is now known as ducasse | ||
| khazakar | Komu> systemD docs :) | 07:32 |
| Vooloo | I can't login using SSH keys to my remote server after upgrading to 22.04. Apparently RSA keys are out so I generated ed25519 keys in puttygen. Added it into .ssh/authorized_keys, tried to login but got refused, and the auth.log says: "userauth_pubkey: key type ssh-rsa not in PubkeyAcceptedAlgorithms" it seems to think my key is still rsa?? | 08:28 |
| Vooloo | No supported authentication methods available [preauth] | 08:29 |
| ravage | Vooloo: try to generate a key on the remove server "ssh-keygen -f yourkey" | 08:32 |
| ravage | put the yourkey.pub in authorized_keys and copy yourkey to your computer | 08:32 |
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| Vooloo | ravage: No supported authentication methods available [preauth] | 08:44 |
| Vooloo | Do I need to update a sshd config? | 08:45 |
| ravage | they try the maintainers version of the sshd_config | 08:45 |
| ravage | *then | 08:45 |
| ravage | it should be in your (etc/ssh dir | 08:45 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I don't believe RSA is depreciated yet. Will take longer to generate but i think mine are all 4096 | 08:46 |
| cbreak | Vooloo: make sure you're using your key. When trying to connect, use -v to get verbose output | 08:47 |
| cbreak | ssh should tell you which keys it offered. | 08:47 |
| Vooloo | I am using putty | 08:47 |
| cbreak | does it not have verbose mode? | 08:48 |
| cbreak | make sure it even uses your new key | 08:48 |
| cbreak | also, do NOT ever generate a key on the server | 08:48 |
| cbreak | the server should not know the private key | 08:48 |
| Vooloo | I can't find a verbose mode. I tried generating key on client with puttygen and on the server. I am pretty sure it is using my key | 08:51 |
| Vooloo | How do I find maintainers version of sshd_config after upgrade? | 08:52 |
| ravage | it is in /etc/ssh | 08:52 |
| ravage | should also be in /usr/share/openssh/sshd_config | 08:53 |
| cbreak | the one that's actually used is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config | 08:58 |
| ioria | Vooloo, what's your version of putty ? | 09:01 |
| Vooloo | 0.81 | 09:02 |
| Vooloo | server config looks the same | 09:02 |
| ioria | Vooloo, grep -i PubkeyAccepted /etc/ssh/sshd_config | 09:04 |
| Vooloo | Nothing | 09:04 |
| Vooloo | #PubkeyAuthentication yes | 09:06 |
| ioria | Vooloo, temporary, you can to use the deprecate rsa: adding the line to sshd_config; https://askubuntu.com/questions/1409105/ubuntu-22-04-ssh-the-rsa-key-isnt-working-since-upgrading-from-20-04 | 09:08 |
| Vooloo | That doesn't work either. I still get No supported authentication methods available [preauth] | 09:11 |
| Vooloo | Am I missing a pam module or something? | 09:11 |
| ioria | Vooloo, with the new ed25519 keys ? or with thew old rsa keys ? | 09:12 |
| Vooloo | Both | 09:14 |
| Vooloo | Oh wait, I think I removed the old rsa key, one sec | 09:14 |
| Vooloo | Okay the old key works | 09:16 |
| Vooloo | So yeah I dont know about why these new keys are not working | 09:17 |
| Vooloo | And I generated a new RSA 4096 in puttygen, so the method works | 09:20 |
| ioria | a silly thing to say, but you can download a previous version of putty (like 0.78) and test | 09:21 |
| ioria | or add +ssh-ed25519 in PubkeyAcceptedAlgo both client and server | 09:26 |
| Vooloo | Ok thanks this works for now | 09:38 |
| ioria | ok | 09:47 |
| masber | hi, I have google authenticator on my phone and I use it to get the one time password, is there an equivalent for the command line? I don't want to unlock my phone and click google authenticator to find out the new token every time I have to connect to the VPN | 09:59 |
| masber | hi, I have google authenticator on my phone and I use it to get the one time password, is there an equivalent for the command line? I don't want to unlock my phone and click google authenticator to find out the new token every time I have to connect to the VPN | 09:59 |
| ravage | first of all that makes not a 2nd factor anymore. there are password managers that offer an API like bitwarden to access those OTPs | 10:01 |
| ravage | https://www.nongnu.org/oath-toolkit/man-oathtool.html seems to offer that too | 10:02 |
| PeGaSuS | stupid question: which file do I need to edit, so the `adduser` command always sets 711 on the `/home/<username>` folder? | 10:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | Pretty sure this covers it https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/user-management | 10:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | /etc/adduser.conf | 10:33 |
| PeGaSuS | thanks! | 10:36 |
| noob88 | Hey all, have most of you installed the new version of Ubuntu, 24.04? How do you like it? | 10:37 |
| ravage | noob88: if you dont have any Ubuntu support question but want to talk about Ubuntu please use #ubuntu-discuss | 10:38 |
| noob88 | ravage thanks! | 10:39 |
| noob88 | ravage one thing I was curious about, just reading the docs,,,I currently have 22.04 installed and there was something about not being able to update until August - is this correct? | 10:40 |
| ravage | upgrades from the previous LTS (22.04) are enabled with the first point release (24.04.1). and that will probably be in August yes | 10:42 |
| noob88 | Okay, gotcha - thanks. | 10:42 |
| noob88 | Could I over-ride this by just upgrading to the non-LTS first and then trying to upgrade to 24.04? | 10:43 |
| ravage | you can use "do-release-upgrade -d" but make sure you have a backup. it will probably break things | 10:43 |
| ravage | backup and a fresh installation is the wiser way to get to 24.04 right now | 10:44 |
| noob88 | ravage hmm...you mean fresh installation in August when it comes out right? | 10:52 |
| noob88 | Or, you mean, back up; wipe system and fresh install of 24.04? | 10:53 |
| ravage | if you want to get 24.04 now do a clean install. or wait until August for the upgrade. always have backup no matter what you do | 10:53 |
| noob88 | ravage thanks | 10:55 |
| noob88 | Any advice for a "clean install"? | 10:55 |
| ravage | boot ISO. wipe disk. | 10:55 |
| CosmicDJ | you could keep your /home though | 10:56 |
| CosmicDJ | (if that's an extra mountpoint) | 10:56 |
| ravage | that is still untested too | 10:56 |
| MyWay | hi, after upgrading my desktop to 24.04 from 23.10 I'm getting an error "failed to open /EFI/ubuntu: not found", then the system boots but screen resolution is 800x600 instead of usual one | 10:58 |
| ravage | MyWay: that are probably separate issues. nvidia card? then i would start with reinstalling the driver | 11:00 |
| MyWay | yes, nvidia | 11:00 |
| ravage | sudo apt-get remove --purge '^nvidia-.*' | 11:00 |
| ravage | then run "sudo ubuntu-drivers install" | 11:00 |
| MyWay | thanks ravage, that worked | 11:03 |
| MyWay | I'm also getting this when trying to open settings: [ 262.463434] gnome-control-c[7164]: segfault at 357 ip 00007ed0ca75b76e sp 00007fff575b6380 error 4 in ld-linux-x86-64.so.2[7ed0ca75a000+2b000] likely on CPU 4 (core 0, socket 0) | 11:08 |
| ravage | MyWay: check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center and if you don't see your bug there run "ubuntu-bug gnome-control-center" | 11:13 |
| jaco | pls want link for posting screenshot in chat | 11:17 |
| jaco | https://imgur.com/lrrxmeQ | 11:21 |
| ravage | the external package repo is broken | 11:22 |
| jaco | is the above report in the terminal of screenshot normal? | 11:22 |
| ravage | remove packages installed from it and remove the file probably from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 11:22 |
| jaco | ravage: so what do i do to solve it | 11:23 |
| jaco | https://imgur.com/lrrxmeQ | 11:26 |
| tbaggerofsteam | hi | 11:26 |
| jaco | HELLO | 11:27 |
| jaco | is there a problem from my terminal? | 11:28 |
| tomreyn | jaco: the apt repository for balena etcher you are using does not support your ubuntu release | 11:28 |
| tomreyn | as far as i know there is currently no apt repository for balena etcher, just a downloadable .deb | 11:29 |
| jaco | tomreyn: what do i do | 11:29 |
| tomreyn | ah, i see ravage already answered it. | 11:29 |
| tomreyn | remove the (balena) ethcher file from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 11:30 |
| tomreyn | this requires sudo | 11:30 |
| jaco | thank you all for the other day i was able to successfully install the ubuntu 23 with dual boot | 11:30 |
| tomreyn | 23? | 11:31 |
| jaco | tomreyn: how do i do that please? | 11:31 |
| jaco | 23.10 | 11:32 |
| tomreyn | run this in terminal: nautilus admin:///etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 11:32 |
| tomreyn | then delete the *etcher.list file | 11:32 |
| tomreyn | then close the file browser | 11:32 |
| tomreyn | then run sudo apt update again | 11:33 |
| jaco | https://imgur.com/BeTv1Xo | 11:36 |
| jaco | this is what i am getting | 11:36 |
| jaco | is the yellow warning okay? | 11:37 |
| ravage | you can ignore that for now | 11:37 |
| ravage | or run the command it shows with sudo | 11:37 |
| tomreyn | the apt issue is now solved, though | 11:37 |
| jaco | thank u | 11:37 |
| tomreyn | although you might need to uninstall balena etcher | 11:38 |
| jaco | tomreyn: where are you chatting from? | 11:38 |
| tomreyn | a computer | 11:38 |
| jaco | location? | 11:39 |
| tomreyn | my desk | 11:39 |
| jaco | haha | 11:39 |
| jaco | dodging my question | 11:39 |
| tomreyn | i'm in germany, but let's do social chat in -offtopic instead (but not right now, i don't feel so social currently) | 11:40 |
| jaco | what is balena etcher? | 11:40 |
| jaco | its okay | 11:40 |
| tomreyn | a software you have or had installed from a third party repository. | 11:40 |
| jaco | okay | 11:40 |
| jaco | do i have to uninstall it fully | 11:42 |
| tomreyn | from what i read, it doesn't work on 24.04 LTS currently, so you might as well uninstall it (if it's still installed) | 11:42 |
| tomreyn | sudo apt purge balena-etcher | 11:43 |
| jaco | Unable to locate package balena-etcher | 11:44 |
| jaco | this is the outcome | 11:44 |
| tomreyn | ok, so it's not installed, all fine | 11:44 |
| jaco | good | 11:44 |
| jaco | Warning: The unit file, source configuration file or drop-ins of apt-news.service changed on disk. Run 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload units. | 11:45 |
| jaco | Warning: The unit file, source configuration file or drop-ins of esm-cache.service changed on disk. Run 'systemctl daemon-reload' to reload units. | 11:45 |
| jaco | so i leave this warning | 11:46 |
| tomreyn | a tip for getting support in the future: tell people which ubuntu version you're using, and use termbin.com to show output of commands, e.g.: sudo apt-get update |& nc termbin.com 9999 | 11:47 |
| tomreyn | also, learn a bit about the shell (see the last link): | 11:47 |
| tomreyn | !terminal | 11:47 |
| ubottu | The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | 11:47 |
| jaco | thank you | 11:49 |
| tomreyn | you're welcome | 11:50 |
| MyWay | thanks ravage | 12:01 |
| === sfenik98 is now known as sfenik9 | ||
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:23 |
| tekNorah | hello? | 13:43 |
| tomreyn | hello tekNorah | 13:48 |
| tomreyn | do you have an ubuntu support question? | 13:49 |
| tekNorah | thanks for the reply, now I know I'm connected! | 13:49 |
| tekNorah | Has the nick registration process changed from https://libera.chat/guides/registration ? | 13:50 |
| tekNorah | When I try, it says: "command not found" | 13:50 |
| tomreyn | not that i know of. you could double-check and get help with it in #libera | 13:50 |
| tekNorah | I also asked in #support | 13:50 |
| tekNorah | but, not sure if anyone is active there | 13:51 |
| tomreyn | i think you are meant to type irc commands into your irc client, not a terminal emulator | 13:51 |
| tomreyn | i.e. type them here where you chat | 13:51 |
| tekNorah | ok, lemme try again here | 13:52 |
| tomreyn | (or better, yet, use the "server" tab, if your irc client provides one) | 13:52 |
| tekNorah | I am using the Goguma App on Amdroid | 13:54 |
| tekNorah | *Android | 13:54 |
| tomreyn | i'm not familiar with that, but generally, "you could [..] get help with [IRC] in #libera" | 13:55 |
| tekNorah | thanks! | 13:55 |
| teknorah | I'm registered! | 14:14 |
| tomreyn | !yay | 14:16 |
| ubottu | Glad you made it! :-) | 14:16 |
| === andreios_ is now known as Andreios | ||
| Nitrigaur | Sometimes when I boot into Ubuntu Linux 24.04, my wireless adapter is not detected at all. A reboot often fixes this, but I wonder what might cause this? | 16:19 |
| rbox | crappy hardware | 16:20 |
| Nitrigaur | I have a Dell Latitude 5520 | 16:20 |
| rbox | ok...? | 16:21 |
| Nitrigaur | rbox, I'm not sure it's a hardware issue. | 16:21 |
| rbox | why are you not sure? | 16:21 |
| Nitrigaur | This is a dual boot system and I've never have Wifi fail on me when I boot into Win10. | 16:21 |
| tomreyn | only AFTER you did and then booted into ubuntu | 16:22 |
| rbox | does it happen when you switch back and forth between windows and linux? | 16:22 |
| Nitrigaur | tomreyn, interesting, any clue what might cause this? | 16:23 |
| tomreyn | windows | 16:23 |
| Nitrigaur | rbox, sometimes, but I mostly boot into Linux anyway. About 90% Linux and maybe 10% Windows. | 16:23 |
| rbox | and is the 10% when it goes screwy | 16:24 |
| rbox | lol | 16:24 |
| Nitrigaur | rbox, not quite. It also happens when the last OS I have booted before this session is Linux. | 16:25 |
| Nitrigaur | I don't see any errors in dmesg, it's just not detected. | 16:25 |
| tomreyn | there are two common causes of this situation: (1) you're using windows with its default setup to not shutdown properly but "fast", potentially leaving some hardware components in a state their firmware (or the bios) are not able to handle well (2) your bios or wireless firmware is buggy, does not initialize or de-inintialize the hardware properly on boot/shutdown | 16:29 |
| Nitrigaur | Is there a way to re-init the hardware detection process? Even modprobe fails on those occasions. | 16:31 |
| tomreyn | https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-windows-10-fast-startup | 16:32 |
| tomreyn | you can configure windows do shutdown properly | 16:32 |
| tomreyn | * to | 16:32 |
| Nitrigaur | It might have to do with the Intel Wireless Firmware or Dell's BIOS. | 16:33 |
| Nitrigaur | tomreyn, thanks for the link, but Fastboot is already off. | 16:33 |
| tomreyn | so it looks like your's is case 2 | 16:33 |
| Nitrigaur | Unfortunately. Oh, well, until now a reboot usually fixes things. It's just inconvenient when I'm in a hurry. | 16:34 |
| tomreyn | "fastboot" and "fast startup" are different things by the way | 16:35 |
| Nitrigaur | tomreyn, In that case I'll check the next time I'll boot into Windows, but since it also happens when the previous sessions was Linux (it usually is), it's probably firmware/ EFI. | 16:37 |
| tomreyn | "fastboot" refers to the bios 'feature' of booting with least possible hardware initialization, and "fast startup" is a set of windows configurations to support fast booting and fast improper shutdowns. | 16:37 |
| tomreyn | your reasoning seems convincing. | 16:38 |
| Nitrigaur | thx :-)\ | 16:38 |
| tomreyn | you might also want to https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2021/06/incorrect-time-windows-11-dual-boot-ubuntu/ | 16:40 |
| Nitrigaur | Anyhow, around september next year I'll wipe the Windows partitions and add the space thus freed to my lvm pool. I'm not running Win11 and I'm not planning to. Too much of a privacy sink. Bigger even than Win10 already is... | 16:41 |
| tomreyn | (i'd fix the HW clock issue on windows' end, because, in my opinion, that's where the problem is introduced.) | 16:42 |
| Nitrigaur | tomreyn, I agree. | 16:43 |
| tomreyn | you can run windows in a VM if you like. also for gaming, if you have two graphics cards and the computer is fast enough + supports virtualization features. | 16:43 |
| Nitrigaur | tomreyn, that's true, but this laptop only has Intel Iris XE for graphics and since I won't accept the install terms for Win11 anyway, that is moot. | 16:46 |
| Xe | fwiw the license agreement isn't legally enforceable in most jurisdictions | 16:46 |
| tomreyn | i didn't mean to convince you to run windows 11 | 16:47 |
| Nitrigaur | Haha, I'm glad :-) | 16:47 |
| Nitrigaur | Xe, true, if it violates the GDPR, it's not enforceable where I live. | 16:48 |
| tomreyn | proton works pretty well nowadays, too, lots of games work just fine. | 16:49 |
| Nitrigaur | I hope that the upgrade path from 23.10 to 24.04.04 becomes stable soon. | 16:49 |
| tomreyn | 24.04.04 ? that'll take a good while to be released | 16:49 |
| Nitrigaur | tomreyn, yes, Proton can be amazing, but Steam is not my primary gaming platform. that's GOG. | 16:50 |
| tomreyn | you can use proton without steam, such as through lutris. | 16:50 |
| tomreyn | or https://github.com/GloriousEggroll/wine-ge-custom | 16:51 |
| Nitrigaur | tomreyn, good to know :-) | 16:51 |
| tomreyn | upgrading from 23.10 to 24.04 is already supported, if you were wondering about this | 16:52 |
| Nitrigaur | tomreyn, I meant 24.0.1 (silly of me ;-) ) | 16:52 |
| tomreyn | oh i see | 16:53 |
| Nitrigaur | tomreyn, it might be supported, but upgrading crashed my system and I had to fix things in the recovery console and through reconfiguring some deb package configurations before the upgrade eventually worked. Not exactly smooth and that's why I'll hold off on that for my mother's laptop for now. | 16:55 |
| Nitrigaur | tomreyn, all in all it cost me about two hours troubleshooting. Not too bad, but not great either. | 16:56 |
| tomreyn | did you have third party software or software versions installed as debian packages?apt | 16:57 |
| tomreyn | - apt | 16:57 |
| Nitrigaur | tomreyn, no. The only thing that differed from a vanilla install when it comes to software, where ppa's of LibreOffice 2024 and Kicad 7. Nothing else. | 16:58 |
| Nitrigaur | Both were official packages. The snaps on offer were absolute garbage. | 16:59 |
| Nitrigaur | where -> were | 16:59 |
| tomreyn | well, ppa's are (usually) third party, unsupported by ubuntu / canonical | 17:00 |
| tomreyn | they may be supported by the PPA provider, but that does not usually include the ubuntu release upgrade process | 17:01 |
| Nitrigaur | tomreyn, true, but these came directly from the developers. | 17:01 |
| Nitrigaur | After the tribulations of the upgrade 24.04 is running smoothly for me. No complaints so far. | 17:02 |
| tomreyn | that's nice. :) | 17:04 |
| Komu | !systemd docs | 19:18 |
| rbox | Komu: irc isn't a search engine | 19:19 |
| bprompt | !systemd | Komu | 19:19 |
| ubottu | Komu: systemd is the default init system for Ubuntu 15.04 onwards. For information on transitioning from upstart to systemd, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers For a guide to basic service management with systemd, see https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units | 19:19 |
| Komu | found it thx :D | 19:19 |
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| moldyadmin | test | 21:50 |
| moldyadmin | Anoos | 21:50 |
| moldyadmin | P**** | 21:50 |
| arraybolt3 | moldyadmin: is there something we can help you with? | 21:51 |
| moldyadmin | (testing a bouncer with a friend, apologies.) | 21:51 |
| arraybolt3 | ah, ok | 21:51 |
| amanullah | hi | 23:07 |
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