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| jbicha | o/ | 14:30 |
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| cpaelzer | hi | 14:30 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 14:31 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 14:31:01 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 14:31 |
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| cpaelzer | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe ) | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 14:31 |
| dviererbe | o/ | 14:31 |
| cpaelzer | these all look known from last week | 14:32 |
| joalif | o/ | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | abseil -> googletest on desktop | 14:32 |
| eslerm | o/ | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | IIRC they said they will have a look | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | but there was jbicha saying hi | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | maybe he knows a current state | 14:32 |
| slyon | o/ | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | the other are python-inflect and pytohn-arrow pointing to pytohn-typeguard and typeshed | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | that was openstack and jamespage | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | I didn't see a reply | 14:33 |
| jbicha | I haven't looked into abseil -> googletest yet | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | no problem jbicha, as long as it is in your todo-queue we are ok | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | the cycle is early still :-) | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | I'll send a mail to jamespage in case he missed the IRC pings | 14:34 |
| sarnold | good morning | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | mail sent | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | going on | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | I've got mine reivewed of last week | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | many others wnated to do their assignment this week IIRC | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | let us look what is new | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysprof/+bug/2066269 | 14:37 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2066269 in sysprof (Ubuntu) "[MIR] sysprof" [Undecided, New] | 14:37 | |
| cpaelzer | ah, that is why jbicha is here :-) | 14:37 |
| jamespage | o/ | 14:37 |
| sarnold | jbicha is always here :) | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | true | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | but even more | 14:37 |
| jbicha | I plan to finish filling out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/TestPlans/Sysprof and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/TestPlans/GnomeBuilder today | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | awesome | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | I can have a look at a review tomorrow | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | If the test process is complete by then that would be great | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | assigned myself | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:39 |
| jbicha | cpaelzer: oops, I forgot to subscribe ubuntu-mir to #2066262 and #2066272 (done now): those are deps of sysprof | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | uh | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | thanks jbicha | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | more reviews to share then | 14:40 |
| jbicha | bug 2066272 bug 2066262 | 14:40 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2066272 in libpanel (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libpanel" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2066272 | 14:40 | |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2066262 in libdex (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libdex" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2066262 | 14:40 | |
| cpaelzer | liiking for volunteers now | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | "looking" | 14:40 |
| joalif | i can have one | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | I also like review volunteers though | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | libdex or libpanel - any preference joalif? | 14:41 |
| slyon | I'm off next week, but could take one for the week after. | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | btw jamespage - I saw your "o/" - sorry for sending you a mail - have you seen the two mismatches above? | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | ok slyon, I think that is better than no reviewer :-) | 14:41 |
| joalif | libdex please | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | done | 14:42 |
| joalif | thanks | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: maybe you can come to the "needs security review" yes/no this week - to enqueue it there before you are out? | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | only if it is a trivial call to make, and anything in depth is fine for when you are back | 14:43 |
| slyon | my "distro day" for this week is almost over, not sure if I can make that | 14:43 |
| sarnold | good idea :) | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | WDYT slyon - is that possible - or is that breaking your planned tasks before you leave? | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: ok, give it a best effort try if you can | 14:43 |
| slyon | ok | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | not wasting time discussing it further, you see sarnold would appreciate it :-) | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | no recent incomplete bug updates, going on | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Process/Documentation improvements | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | two recent contribs by eslerm | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/57 | 14:45 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 57 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "vendored code: use only necessary vendored code" [Open] | 14:45 | |
| cpaelzer | https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/56 | 14:45 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 56 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "bug state: make MIR approvals expire/Invalid after two years if packa…" [Open] | 14:45 | |
| cpaelzer | both blocked on the older libseed spelling | 14:46 |
| jamespage | cpaelzer: seen | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | thanks jamespage | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | I like both PRs, short, concise and to the point | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: has approved one already | 14:46 |
| slyon | just approved the 2nd one | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | thanks | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | I'll give both a check tomorrow | 14:47 |
| eslerm | thank you slyon and cpaelzer | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | and if I'm +1 as well merge them and fix the silly spelling check issue | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | thank you all | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | going on ... | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place. | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | Internal link | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | I think we had no recent additions | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | any update on those in the queue for longer? | 14:48 |
| slyon | I reviewed bug #2067373 today. I think it can be queued for security already, while desktop works out the kinks | 14:48 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2067373 in provd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] provd" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2067373 | 14:48 | |
| cpaelzer | ok, I'm sure sarnold can add that there right? | 14:48 |
| sarnold | yup! | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: maybe an expectation on when s3transfer and boto3 will get started? | 14:48 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: I expect one should start this week, unsure of how many more | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | as long as they not continue to just wait we are ok atm I guess | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | but you can expect some more to come to your queue | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | like 3 of sysprof we've seen above are likely | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | with that in mind, going on ... | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | nothing from the server team atm | 14:51 |
| sarnold | nothing from me | 14:51 |
| slyon | nothing from me | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | joalif: jamespage: jbicha: eslerm: anything from you? | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | countdown in 10 | 14:52 |
| joalif | nothing | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | 12 | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | 8 | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | 47 | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | 51 | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | kind of now ... | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | ok, thanks | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | I think we are good for today | 14:52 |
| joalif | thanks cpaelzer all :) | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | about everyone got something to work on | 14:52 |
| eslerm | nothing :) | 14:52 |
| slyon | thanks all! | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | but no one got an insane amount | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | that is how it should be | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | thanks! | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 14:53 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 14:53:05 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-06-04-14.31.moin.txt | 14:53 |
| dviererbe | Thanks everyone! | 14:53 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 14:53 |
| slyon | sarnold: FYI: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpanel/+bug/2066272/comments/2 | 15:11 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2066272 in libpanel (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libpanel" [Undecided, New] | 15:11 | |
| slyon | so (probably) no need for queueing it early | 15:12 |
| amurray | o/ | 18:59 |
| seb128 | hey | 19:02 |
| amurray | hey seb128 | 19:03 |
| seb128 | hey amurray :) | 19:03 |
| rbasak | o/ | 19:03 |
| seb128 | Steve was supposed to chair but sent an apologies email | 19:03 |
| seb128 | Lukasz was supposed to be backup but doesn't seem around? (let me ping him in private in case) | 19:04 |
| seb128 | rbasak, around? | 19:05 |
| rbasak | Yes | 19:05 |
| seb128 | amurray, rbasak, I think it's only the 3 of us, worth having a quick meeting still? | 19:06 |
| amurray | yeah I think so | 19:06 |
| seb128 | our chair and backup chair are missing, amurray you would be next in the list following the membership order | 19:06 |
| amurray | no worries | 19:06 |
| seb128 | do you want to chair/start the meeting? | 19:06 |
| seb128 | thx | 19:06 |
| amurray | #startmeeting Ubuntu Technical Board | 19:07 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 19:07:25 UTC. The chair is amurray. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 19:07 |
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| amurray | #topic Apologies | 19:07 |
| amurray | vorlon sent apologies via email for the next few meetings | 19:07 |
| amurray | #topic Action review | 19:08 |
| amurray | ACTION: rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy | 19:08 |
| rbasak | I've been working on this. | 19:08 |
| rbasak | I've been editing the draft. | 19:08 |
| rbasak | The most recent significant changes are: | 19:08 |
| rbasak | 1. The requirement for the documented test plan | 19:09 |
| rbasak | 2. The section on specific mechanism for implementation for snaps via snap channels. | 19:09 |
| rbasak | These are marked in green in the draft. | 19:09 |
| rbasak | Final call: if you haven't provided feedback yet, I'm going to assume you're OK with the current wording (as a draft for publication for consultation; there would still be a final TB ratification step). | 19:10 |
| rbasak | Also please note that I've renumbered the requirements and started calling them "principles" to help with clarity | 19:10 |
| amurray | sounds reasonable | 19:10 |
| amurray | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1apUKR4gtOrfPGCWmtoebaQUhoy-fG8Cyo3VKJyhnpD0/edit | 19:11 |
| amurray | new changes lgtm fwiw | 19:12 |
| seb128 | +1 from me also | 19:12 |
| rbasak | Thanks! | 19:12 |
| rbasak | I've also been speaking to some internal stakeholders such as snap upstream. | 19:13 |
| rbasak | Assuming no objections from them, I'll publish to Discourse in the next couple of weeks or so. | 19:13 |
| rbasak | My draft to post to Discourse is in progress in the same doc. | 19:13 |
| amurray | sounds good - thanks rbasak | 19:13 |
| amurray | (argh sorry I just realised I have a hard stop in 15 mins so will speed things up a bit - apologies) | 19:14 |
| amurray | ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 19:14 |
| rbasak | This is a lower priority so I've not touched it. Please carry over. | 19:14 |
| seb128 | (sounds fine, I don't expect there is any pending topic that should turn it into a long meeting) | 19:14 |
| amurray | #action rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 19:14 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 19:14 |
| amurray | ACTION: rbasak to get the DMB election going | 19:14 |
| rbasak | In progress! | 19:15 |
| rbasak | Hopefully you've all seen the call for nominations. | 19:15 |
| rbasak | I will send a reminder out tomorrow. | 19:15 |
| amurray | yep - thanks rbasak | 19:15 |
| seb128 | I've seen it :) | 19:15 |
| amurray | ACTION: vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays | 19:15 |
| amurray | will carry over | 19:15 |
| amurray | #action vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays | 19:15 |
| meetingology | ACTION: vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays | 19:15 |
| amurray | ACTION: seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 19:15 |
| seb128 | carry over | 19:16 |
| amurray | #action seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 19:16 |
| meetingology | ACTION: seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 19:16 |
| amurray | will carry over vorlon's other 2 items then as well | 19:16 |
| seb128 | +1 | 19:16 |
| amurray | #action vorlon to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification re the number of contacts listed for the flavor | 19:16 |
| meetingology | ACTION: vorlon to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification re the number of contacts listed for the flavor | 19:16 |
| amurray | #action vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays | 19:16 |
| meetingology | ACTION: vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays | 19:16 |
| amurray | (this one seems to have got dropped from the previous agenda without any outcome as I recall so I readded it) | 19:17 |
| amurray | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) | 19:17 |
| amurray | #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-March/thread.html | 19:17 |
| amurray | heh March... | 19:17 |
| amurray | #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-June/thread.html | 19:17 |
| seb128 | :) | 19:18 |
| amurray | nothing that I can see | 19:18 |
| amurray | (nor for May etc) | 19:18 |
| amurray | #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs | 19:18 |
| amurray | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bugs?field.assignee=techboard | 19:18 |
| amurray | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/techboard | 19:18 |
| amurray | also nothing there | 19:18 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 19:18 |
| seb128 | sil2100, hey, just on time for the meeting wrap :) | 19:19 |
| amurray | oh hey sil2100 | 19:19 |
| sil2100 | Apologies, I completely lost count of time | 19:19 |
| sil2100 | Oh no | 19:19 |
| amurray | all good - main thing to know would be to raise any issues you have may with the third-party repo requirements doc asap | 19:20 |
| sil2100 | I'll check the meeting logs, but anything high-profile I should know about? | 19:20 |
| sil2100 | ACK | 19:20 |
| amurray | #topic Select a chair for the next meeting (next from https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members) | 19:20 |
| sil2100 | Let me open it up and have quick look now | 19:20 |
| amurray | #agreed next meeting chair: sil2100, backup: amurray | 19:21 |
| meetingology | AGREED: next meeting chair: sil2100, backup: amurray | 19:21 |
| seb128 | I guess that would be sil2100 with backup rbasak? | 19:21 |
| sil2100 | o/ | 19:21 |
| seb128 | amurray, you just chaired this one so you shouldn't be on the hook again | 19:21 |
| rbasak | +1 | 19:22 |
| amurray | I'm not fussed (fwiw for the next while I will likely have to finish after 30mins like today so if I do chair they will be efficient meetings again) | 19:22 |
| amurray | #agreed next meeting chair: sil2100, backup: rbasak | 19:22 |
| meetingology | AGREED: next meeting chair: sil2100, backup: rbasak | 19:22 |
| amurray | #topic AOB | 19:23 |
| rbasak | I'm fine either way but it's probably better it being defined :) | 19:23 |
| seb128 | no other topic from me | 19:24 |
| sil2100 | Nothing from me o/ | 19:24 |
| amurray | ok - thanks folks | 19:25 |
| amurray | #endmeeting | 19:25 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 19:25:07 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-06-04-19.07.moin.txt | 19:25 |
| seb128 | thanks amurray! efficient meetings are the best meetings ;-) | 19:25 |
| amurray | cheers | 19:26 |
| rbasak | Thanks! | 19:26 |
| sil2100 | Thanks! | 19:26 |
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