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| squashfs | anyone experienced with alma linux. is it good for home servers? | 09:06 |
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| ogra_ | weird question to ask in an ubuntu channel 🙂 | 09:09 |
| squashfs | doesn't matter linux is linux they require nick verification in alma | 09:10 |
| squashfs | basically i want to set up my own pc and link it to domain for website instead of relying on 3rd party | 09:12 |
| squashfs | is ubuntu server more secure than rhel server | 10:52 |
| ravage1 | We do not play the best distribution game here | 10:53 |
| squashfs | that means no | 10:54 |
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| oerheks | polling gives one logical answer | 11:26 |
| znf | What's the timeline for 24.04.1 ? | 14:20 |
| oerheks | august | 14:20 |
| znf | damn | 14:20 |
| oerheks | see ' future' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam | 14:20 |
| znf | Hetzner doesn't offer 24.04 yet, and no do-release-upgrade until .1 | 14:20 |
| znf | that means I have to install it painfully via IPMI | 14:21 |
| znf | Has the noble mini.iso been updated to actually offer 24.04 ? | 14:21 |
| oerheks | check the releasenotes before you try | 14:21 |
| znf | No mention of mini.iso yet | 14:22 |
| znf | man, I miss the old debian-installer mini.iso, that thing just worked | 14:22 |
| oerheks | https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mini-iso/noble/daily-live/ | 14:22 |
| oerheks | i would just use server for that too | 14:23 |
| znf | Booting a >1GB ISO image over IPMI is just incredibly painful | 14:23 |
| oerheks | i read some reports that the mini iso downloads 4 images something | 14:24 |
| znf | that would be perfectly fine if it actually worked | 14:24 |
| znf | mounting the ISO remotely via IPMI on a non-single-digit latency link is just incredibly painful | 14:25 |
| znf | what's `noble-live-server-arm64+largemem.iso` for? | 14:25 |
| znf | aka: what's "large" in this case? | 14:26 |
| znf | Over 4TB? | 14:26 |
| znf | or should I use that for 512GB, too? | 14:27 |
| znf | oh wait | 14:27 |
| znf | arm64, I'm blind | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | znf, you are aware that mini.iso has never been supported in ubuntu and effectively gave you a "debian configured ubuntu" install (i.e. copmpletely broken and unsupportable) | 14:35 |
| znf | I've installed hundreds of servers with the old mini.iso, never once I've seen it "completely broken" | 14:36 |
| ogra_ | well, it had all debian defaults set ... like no locked root account, different package selection etc etc | 14:38 |
| ogra_ | it was just a by-product of building d-i but has never been offered as official install media | 14:38 |
| znf | that was perfectly fine for me and countless other people :) | 14:39 |
| ogra_ | well, d-i is gone and done ... (luckily) ... | 14:39 |
| znf | meanwhile, subiquity has a weird partitioning system, weird networking setup, weird identity setup, and the worst offender is the size of the ISO | 14:39 |
| ogra_ | file bugs 😉 | 14:40 |
| znf | nah, I'd rather not waste 1+ hour per bug to explain how/why, and then be offered a "won't fix" abel | 14:40 |
| znf | the partioner doesn't allow you to create a mbr/dos table, only gpt... | 14:41 |
| znf | when you do EFI, there's no way to tell the installer what size the esp partition to be, it's the installer's way or no way | 14:41 |
| ogra_ | well, not sure a bug report "i need to be able to size the EFI partition" actually needs 1h to file ... but your coice indeed 🙂 | 14:42 |
| znf | adding multiple esp's (when you're doing raid1, for example), is very *not* intuitive, I know how to do it, but every one of my team mates that I've shown how were baffled and they wouldn't have figured it out in a million years by themselves | 14:43 |
| znf | when presented with multiple network interfaces, if only 1 is connected, the subiquity installer will set up all of the non-connected NICs to "dhcp" in the resulting netplan configuration... this has the awesome effect of having to wait like 10 minutes for the first boot if you happen to have 4+ NICs | 14:43 |
| znf | when configuring a NIC static/manual, the installer requires you to specify the subnet in CIDR notation, for some reasons, I still don't understand why it can't just ask for IP address in CIDR notation and just assume the subnet from that | 14:44 |
| mybalzitch | you know what they say about assumptions | 17:12 |
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| znf | mybalzitch, it's networking... it's pretty "standard" at this point | 23:18 |
| sdeziel_ | znf: I agree it's annoying (I reported this paper-cut long ago) | 23:21 |
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| sdeziel | znf: heh, ~6 years ago: https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1777732 | 23:22 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-server- Launchpad bug 1777732 in subiquity "Manual network config uselessly asks for a 'Subnet'" [Wishlist, Triaged] | 23:22 | |
| znf | that's why I don't bother making bug reports | 23:23 |
| znf | think I saw yours when I was looking to report it | 23:23 |
| znf | and it was already 3+ years old | 23:23 |
| sdeziel | I try to report bugs when I cannot (or don't have time to) contribute patches | 23:25 |
| znf | it feels like the whole subiquity server installer was designed by someone that barely touched bare-metal systems and all their experience is on VMs and containers | 23:28 |
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