| Tingo | DarkenedGent: if your apt update command installed new Kernel or Updated a Kernel then you must need to reboot machine to run/boot Ubuntu with New Kernel.. otherwise it will be running on OLD kernel untill dont reboot.. | 00:00 |
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| tomreyn | also, not sure you know this: in case you're removing the disk while its online, this could be causing this. make sure to remove it while the system is off, or ensure that all of bios/uefi, controller/mainboard and storage support hot removal. | 00:04 |
| tomreyn | OS, too | 00:04 |
| KarenTheDorf | How do I shut the "There was one update that couldn't be installed" message when logging into a text console? (It is fine, I don't want to 'upgrade' firefox from the mozilla ppa to the ubuntu stub package that just installs the firefox snap) | 00:46 |
| oerheks | KarenTheDorf, override by installing x | 00:47 |
| oerheks | else, wait for the teams to check the update. | 00:47 |
| DarkenedGent | tomreyn: If this doesn't work just like a hw raid card meaning if a disk fails the system will continue to run and boot then i'll be moving back to hw raid cards. | 00:48 |
| oerheks | it is calles phased updats | 00:48 |
| KarenTheDorf | Well I assume Ubuntu isn't going to stop shipping a stub firefox package that just runs "snap install firefox" any time soon. :D | 00:48 |
| DarkenedGent | Pretty pointless if the system can't boot after loosing a drive when in a raid1 array | 00:48 |
| KarenTheDorf | This is nothing to do with phased updates. | 00:48 |
| leftyfb | KarenTheDorf: apt-cache policy firefox | nc termbin.com 9999 | 00:49 |
| oerheks | just update , and you'll be fine | 00:49 |
| KarenTheDorf | It's unattended updates getting mad I have an apt_preferences entry. | 00:49 |
| leftyfb | KarenTheDorf: please post the resulting URL here | 00:49 |
| oerheks | snaps do not say "couldn't be installed" | 00:49 |
| KarenTheDorf | https://termbin.com/5uah | 00:50 |
| tomreyn | DarkenedGent: i think it normally would, and yours is not behaving as as it's supposed to. but i can't tell why (short of info, but also not keen on investigating now, thus my suggestion to file a bug report) | 00:50 |
| leftyfb | KarenTheDorf: please pastebin the entire message about "update couldn't be installed" along with what you typed to get the message | 00:50 |
| leftyfb | KarenTheDorf: btw, firefox isn't the package it's complaining about | 00:51 |
| leftyfb | you have the "latest" according to your configuration | 00:51 |
| KarenTheDorf | "1 update could not be installed see /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades.log" (tail of that log: https://termbin.com/ynt1). My system is in the state I want it, I just want it to stop nagging me about it. | 00:53 |
| leftyfb | KarenTheDorf: what command did you run to get it to show that message? | 00:53 |
| leftyfb | "or due to local apt_preferences" this is self-inflicted | 00:54 |
| === karenw is now known as KarenTheDorf | ||
| KarenTheDorf | Sorry, machine crashed. I don't run any particular command, I just log in to a text console and it's one of the things printed before getting the shell prompt. I am aware it's self inflicted I just wondered how to get rid of the nagging not fix the problem itself since it's not a problem. | 01:02 |
| oerheks | Your termbin does not show what update | 01:03 |
| oerheks | useless | 01:03 |
| KarenTheDorf | It's not firefox from this line? "2024-06-10 13:17:30,479 INFO Package firefox is kept back because a related package is kept back or due to local apt_preferences(5)." | 01:04 |
| leftyfb | KarenTheDorf: remove unattended-upgrades | 01:04 |
| oerheks | apt install -f | 01:04 |
| KarenTheDorf | oerheks: https://termbin.com/vyms | 01:05 |
| oerheks | so, nothing for firefox snap to do | 01:06 |
| KarenTheDorf | But it sounds like this isn't something I can do so I'll stop asking. | 01:06 |
| leftyfb | KarenTheDorf: remove unattended-upgrades | 01:06 |
| KarenTheDorf | leftyfb: Thanks. (I'll think about that one, unattended upgrades is probabally worth ignoring the nagging) | 01:06 |
| leftyfb | not if you're doing regular updates on your own | 01:06 |
| === KarenTheDorf is now known as Guest1967 | ||
| === karenw is now known as KarenTheDorf | ||
| yyds | question about xorriso. | 01:43 |
| yyds | I unpacked ubuntu-24.04-desktop-amd64.iso, imported autoinstall.yaml and then packaged it into output.iso. However, output.iso is normal in bios and cannot be booted on uefi. | 01:43 |
| === TheCaptain8982 is now known as TheCaptain898 | ||
| yyds | the original packaging command, how to do that? | 01:45 |
| tomreyn | i would not know. what i know is that the ubuntu iso's are crafted to be "hybrid", allowing booting in both classic bios and uefi mode. | 01:47 |
| leftyfb | yyds: xorriso -as mkisofs -r -V 'Ubuntu 22.04 LTS AUTO (EFIBIOS)' -o ../ubuntu-22.04-autoinstall.iso --grub2-mbr ../BOOT/1-Boot-NoEmul.img -partition_offset 16 --mbr-force-bootable -append_partition 2 28732ac11ff8d211ba4b00a0c93ec93b ../BOOT/2-Boot-NoEmul.img -appended_part_as_gpt -iso_mbr_part_type a2a0d0ebe5b9334487c068b6b72699c7 -c '/boot.catalog' -b '/boot/grub/i386-pc/eltorito.img' -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 | 01:48 |
| leftyfb | -boot-info-table --grub2-boot-info -eltorito-alt-boot -e '--interval:appended_partition_2:::' -no-emul-boot . | 01:48 |
| leftyfb | change the naming and iso accordingly | 01:49 |
| leftyfb | and maybe the partition uuid | 01:49 |
| yyds | leftyfb: thank you so much. | 01:50 |
| === antonispgs8 is now known as antonispgs | ||
| === chris14_ is now known as chris14 | ||
| KarenTheDorf | Okay, so after investigation into the message from unattended-upgrades on text login, I discovered it's from `/etc/update-motd.d/92-unattended-upgrades`. I removed execute permission from that file, and now the nagging has gone away but without removing unattended-upgrades. (It still reports '0 updates available' which is from a different file) | 01:52 |
| leftyfb | KarenTheDorf: it's possible future updates of the unattended-upgrades package might fix the permissions on that file | 01:53 |
| KarenTheDorf | Yeah, I couldn't find a better way to disable it. Removing the file would have the same issue. | 01:54 |
| === lubuntu is now known as chonechavex | ||
| Psi-Jack | So a curious question if anyone got any ideas. When I plug/unplug my USB-C based dock I want to run, as the running user, a script that stops, starts, or restarts a user systemd service. | 02:13 |
| rbox | you could probably write a user service thats tied to whatever hardware being inserted | 02:15 |
| rbox | i've run system services when plugging in devices | 02:16 |
| Psi-Jack | Hmmm.. Interesting. Got a starting point on how I'd start that? | 02:16 |
| yyds | leftyfb: It works on ubuntu-24, thanks again. | 02:17 |
| rbox | i feel like bindsto was what i used? | 02:17 |
| Psi-Jack | I'm basically trying to stop and start waynergy.service as a user systemd service based on being plugged/unplugged from the dock. Because undocked, it doesn't need to be running, Docked, I prefer it to be running. | 02:17 |
| Psi-Jack | Sven00: Please don't DM me with "answers from AI". | 02:21 |
| === SoniEx2 is now known as Soni | ||
| Psi-Jack | There we go, got the USB device I need specifically. Bus 002 Device 030: ID 0711:5601 Magic Control Technology Corp. USB Station | 02:36 |
| Psi-Jack | rbox: Hmm.. Did you also happen to use a udev event trigger of some kind? | 03:00 |
| rbox | no, the service shoudl handle it all | 03:00 |
| rbox | although i think it needed a systemd "tag" in udev | 03:01 |
| Psi-Jack | Hmm.. I'm only seeing methods that depend on udev. Either by way of /etc/udev/rules.d with a ENV{SYSTEMD_WANTS}, or some method I can't find ... Well, really any documentation on ~/.config/udev/events.d/ | 03:02 |
| closertopop | hello | 04:21 |
| gry | hi closertopop | 04:24 |
| closertopop | planning a trip abroad, how about you | 04:25 |
| gry | i might get penalized if i share my trip stories here, what about #ubuntu-offtopic ? this is only for ubuntu support | 04:26 |
| closertopop | offtopic chat seems more appropriate. thanks | 04:26 |
| Liowenex | So | 04:39 |
| Liowenex | Ubuntu 24.04 | 04:39 |
| Liowenex | I don't want a swap.img, how do i replace that stupid idea with a traditional swapfile? | 04:39 |
| Psi-Jack | Huh.. How come alsamixer only shows the one sound device that I don't actually use, but all the others are not even visible to it somehow? I have the realtek (not used, onboard), CM106 USB audio system (Primary), Arctis Nova Pro headset (passthrough to CM106 as well, which is why I'm looking into this issue, it's not passing audio through). | 04:52 |
| fbagnato | Hello all, I have just installed Ubuntu 24.04 on a MacBook Pro (Mid 2010) and am having freezing where the only way out is to turn off the laptop and turn it back on. Where do I start to work out the cause of the freezing? | 04:55 |
| Liowenex | fbagnato: Have you checked your thermals? | 04:56 |
| Psi-Jack | Haha, nevermind. I was ssh'd into my laptop. | 04:56 |
| fbagnato | no I haven't........I ran the dmesg command and see a lot of nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: 00100000 [] ch 3 [001fa70000 gnome-shell[1509]] subc 3 class 8597 mthd 1304 data 1d1c1b1a and nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: DATA_ERROR 00000012 [RT_LINEAR_WITH_ZETA] | 04:57 |
| fbagnato | I don't know if the messages are indicative of the cause? | 04:58 |
| Psi-Jack | hmm. But I am definitely having issues with the snap version of bitwarden not syncing from my server. | 04:59 |
| === diceLibrarian2 is now known as liceDibrarian | ||
| Psi-Jack | Yeah, wow.. Bitwarden's just... "spinning. | 05:09 |
| Liowenex | Probably a good idea to not use the open-source NVIDIA driver..., fbagnato | 05:11 |
| fbagnato | Liowenex: Do you mean download the Linux driver from the NVIDIA website? | 05:11 |
| Liowenex | No | 05:11 |
| Liowenex | Open the Start menu | 05:12 |
| Liowenex | And search for Additional Drivers | 05:12 |
| fbagnato | Yes | 05:12 |
| fbagnato | ok...I will try that now | 05:12 |
| Liowenex | Never get the NVIDIA drivers from NVIDIA's website.... | 05:12 |
| Liowenex | That's a receipe for disaster | 05:12 |
| fbagnato | ok...I have opened "Software & Updates" and the "Additional Drivers" tab and the only driver that shows is the Wifi drivers | 05:14 |
| Liowenex | What graphics card do you have? | 05:14 |
| fbagnato | I'll check | 05:14 |
| Psi-Jack | Wow.. This is the first "modern" distro that doesn't come with inxi out of the box. | 05:15 |
| Liowenex | Which one, Psi-Jack? | 05:15 |
| Psi-Jack | inxi, it's a great diagnostics tool. inxi -G for example shows you about your GPU. | 05:15 |
| Liowenex | Yes, which distro? | 05:16 |
| Psi-Jack | Ubuntu. | 05:16 |
| Liowenex | Also doesn't come with glxinfo normally | 05:16 |
| Liowenex | Whch is part of mesa-utils | 05:16 |
| Psi-Jack | Not quite as useful. :) | 05:16 |
| Psi-Jack | Sometimes useful, just not as much. | 05:16 |
| Liowenex | glxinfo -B is nice | 05:17 |
| fbagnato | Liowenex: I have 2. 1) NVIDIA Geforce GT 330M and 2) Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller | 05:17 |
| Liowenex | Right | 05:17 |
| fbagnato | Listed in that order | 05:19 |
| Bashing-om | !info nvidia-graphics-drivers-340 | 05:28 |
| ubottu | Package nvidia-graphics-drivers-340 does not exist in noble | 05:28 |
| Bashing-om | !info nvidia-graphics-drivers-340 focal | 05:28 |
| ubottu | 'focal' is not a valid release | 05:28 |
| Bashing-om | !info nvidia-graphics-drivers-340 jammy | 05:28 |
| ubottu | Package nvidia-graphics-drivers-340 does not exist in jammy | 05:29 |
| fbagnato | Does that mean that my video card is not supported in Ubuntu 24.04? | 05:29 |
| Bashing-om | fbagnato: Perhpas - I still looking at the options you may have --- that is a very old card. | 05:31 |
| ravage1 | i am almost sure that the nouveau driver supports your card | 05:31 |
| ravage1 | you do not need the proprietary driver | 05:31 |
| ravage1 | and the nvidia driver version 340 is too old to support newer kernels like in 24.04 | 05:32 |
| fbagnato | Bashing-om: OK I will await your advice | 05:33 |
| fbagnato | ravage1: OK, so that is not an option for 24.04. When you say nouveau supports my card, could it still be the cause of the freezing? | 05:34 |
| ravage1 | it is possble but not very likely | 05:34 |
| ravage1 | if the mac book also has an internal intel gpu then it probably only used that anyway | 05:35 |
| ravage1 | but i never owned a macbook 🙂 | 05:35 |
| fbagnato | Where would I start to work out the cause? I ran sudo dmesg and saw those repeated nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: 00100000 [] ch 3 [001fa70000 gnome-shell[1509]] subc 3 class 8597 mthd 1304 data 1d1c1b1a and nouveau 0000:01:00.0: gr: DATA_ERROR 00000012 [RT_LINEAR_WITH_ZETA] entries hence why I thought it could be the cause | 05:36 |
| Bashing-om | fbagnato: as ravage1 says - there is no other driver support for that card after 20.04 release, other than the nouveau driver :( | 05:37 |
| ravage1 | try: sudo nano /etc/default/grub | 05:38 |
| ravage1 | set: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="nomodeset" | 05:38 |
| ravage1 | (replace the existing line) | 05:38 |
| ravage1 | sudo update-grub | 05:38 |
| ravage1 | then reboot | 05:38 |
| fbagnato | ravage1: I will try that and test | 05:39 |
| Psi-Jack | So yeah. Snap version of BitWarden fails. Flatpak works. AppImage ... Is being extremely weird about wanting something in /tmp to be root-owned which makes no sense at all. | 05:39 |
| ravage1 | also found this package. not sure if you need it but sounds useful for your hardware | 05:39 |
| ravage1 | !info macfanctld | 05:39 |
| ubottu | macfanctld (0.6+repack1-2, noble): fan control daemon for Apple MacBook / MacBook Pro computers. In component universe, is extra. Built by macfanctld. Size 14 kB / 48 kB | 05:39 |
| ravage1 | Psi-Jack: installed the snap about 2 weeks ago. working fine so far | 05:40 |
| Psi-Jack | Hmm, That's weird. Bitwarden actual host, or self-hosted? | 05:40 |
| ravage1 | self-hosted | 05:40 |
| Psi-Jack | And I'm talking the desktop client, you as well? | 05:41 |
| ravage1 | oh. im talking about the cli | 05:41 |
| Psi-Jack | Heh. | 05:41 |
| ravage1 | i use the browser as my gui | 05:41 |
| Psi-Jack | That's why i asked. I very heavily use the desktop client and browser extension. | 05:41 |
| ravage1 | (extension in firefox) | 05:41 |
| ravage1 | i only need the cli for scripting | 05:41 |
| Psi-Jack | But right now the current Bitwarden client on Snap.. Is failing. | 05:41 |
| ravage1 | let me test | 05:42 |
| Psi-Jack | If you don't mind. ,Can always kill it after. :) | 05:42 |
| Psi-Jack | Oh sheash.. | 05:42 |
| Psi-Jack | Maybe this is the issue The "installation" notes on the bottom of the description. | 05:42 |
| ravage1 | oh well yes | 05:43 |
| ravage1 | you need to do that | 05:43 |
| Psi-Jack | heh. Pain in the arse I swear. LOL | 05:43 |
| ravage1 | they could actually ask for an auto connect on the discourse | 05:43 |
| ravage1 | im sure they would get that granted | 05:43 |
| Psi-Jack | Yeah. Or like... What was it. Some app I installed one time wanted a whole list of things to add.. Was it Rambox I think? It just needed all kinds of permissions. | 05:44 |
| Psi-Jack | Manually. | 05:44 |
| ravage1 | ok so the app is running and im logged in | 05:46 |
| Psi-Jack | Yeah, I got logged in and synced, after the password-manager-service was hooked up. | 05:46 |
| Psi-Jack | Finally. LOL | 05:46 |
| Bashing-om | !cookie | ravage1 | 05:47 |
| ubottu | ravage1: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! | 05:47 |
| Psi-Jack | ravage1: 🍪 | 05:48 |
| ravage1 | he found it himself 😄 | 05:48 |
| ravage1 | but waiting for the return of fbagnato | 05:48 |
| Psi-Jack | Thanks for confirming BTW. That actually is helpful. It's just weird. This is my first time actually using Ubuntu in like... ~10 years, actually actually using that is. | 05:48 |
| Psi-Jack | I'm giving snaps a thorough look over as well. | 05:49 |
| Psi-Jack | Cause, snaps have vastly changed over the years. | 05:49 |
| ravage1 | still far from perfect but much improved | 05:50 |
| ravage1 | and the fastest way to get your app to people | 05:50 |
| Psi-Jack | It actually is, from what I'm seeing. Still a bit of a PITA at times, but I have Flatpak as a backup. | 05:50 |
| ravage1 | at least in the Ubuntu cosmos | 05:51 |
| Psi-Jack | I'm still not entirely sure how I feel about it yet. All the loopbacks are insane. | 05:51 |
| fbagnato | ravage1: I am testing the nomodeset now. | 05:51 |
| ravage1 | built some for fun so far: https://snapcraft.io/publisher/nbuechner | 05:51 |
| ravage1 | it really depends on the app | 05:52 |
| Psi-Jack | Though it's funny. Discord (which does not seem to be working with Rich Presence as a snap just like the Flatpak was like), Firefox, Ferdium, and BitWarden, are all mounted nsfs now, but my nvim snap for neovim is not mounted this way. | 05:52 |
| Psi-Jack | nvim uses the "classical" so it's on squashfs. 😵💫 | 05:53 |
| ravage1 | snap is always squashfs | 05:53 |
| ravage1 | the classic option just disables most of the sandboxing | 05:53 |
| Psi-Jack | Right. | 05:55 |
| Psi-Jack | And being nvim is a text editor, that I could use pretty much anywhere on the system for any purpose, I get it's reason for being unsandboxed. | 05:55 |
| Psi-Jack | I just needed neovim 0.10 for my favorite plugin, nvchad. | 05:56 |
| Psi-Jack | So, hence.... I'm trying out Ubuntu literally head first, into everything that Ubuntu is today. | 05:56 |
| Psi-Jack | I'm kinda tired of constant updates breaking random things. | 05:57 |
| fbagnato | ravage1: So far hasn't locked up. Still testing | 05:59 |
| ravage1 | Psi-Jack: thats why i came to Ubuntu too | 06:01 |
| Psi-Jack | ravage1: Weird ainnit? Been using Linux for 30 years, and.. I'm just tired, I want things to work, and stay working. | 06:02 |
| === EriC^^_ is now known as EriC^^ | ||
| Psi-Jack | Then again, part of the problem's been this horrific rush of a push to Wayland. That's what's offputting me the most. | 06:07 |
| ravage1 | back to Xorg atm. but mostly because nvidia is not ready for it yet | 06:08 |
| Psi-Jack | Not my specific issue, I'm on AMD RX and Intel UHD. It's Barrier/Input-Leap that's not ready for Wayland yet. | 06:08 |
| Psi-Jack | And so I suspect... Ubuntu will be at least maintaining GNOME on X11 for the next ~6 years. heh | 06:09 |
| fbagnato | ravage1: Still hasn't frozen. I checked dmesg and those nouveau messages are no longer there | 06:10 |
| ravage1 | sounds promising 🙂 | 06:10 |
| fbagnato | it does :) | 06:10 |
| Psi-Jack | heh, tomorrow, after some now much needed sleep, I will begin the steam testing. | 06:10 |
| Psi-Jack | G'night all! :) | 06:10 |
| ravage1 | good night | 06:10 |
| fbagnato | Good night | 06:11 |
| Psi-Jack | rbox: If you still have any of that stuff you done, and have any of it handy, please let me know. I'd love to see what you've done and how you've done it, so I can try to do it too. My dock would be very much nicer for it. | 06:11 |
| fbagnato | ravage1: Unless it's a thermal issue as per Liowenex questioned? | 06:11 |
| fbagnato | I will wait and see | 06:11 |
| fbagnato | ravage1: If I need it how do I install macfanctld? I searched for it in the App store but couldn't find it. | 06:26 |
| ravage1 | sudo apt install macfanctld | 06:27 |
| fbagnato | Excellent. Thanks for that :) | 06:28 |
| fbagnato | ravage1: I think the nomodeset avoids the freezing. Should I be reporting the nouveau bug to Ubuntu? | 07:06 |
| ravage1 | nomodeset fixes a lot of old gpu bugs | 07:09 |
| ravage1 | I'm not even sure if your Nvidia GPU is the problem | 07:09 |
| fbagnato | hmmm....do I lose functionality with the nomodeset? | 07:10 |
| ravage1 | No | 07:10 |
| fbagnato | ok..that's good, because it seems to be running ok. One of the test windows I have open is a Firefox Youtube Aquarium 4K video with sound and it is running fine | 07:11 |
| fbagnato | I have about 8 windows/programs open and it is not freezing | 07:11 |
| ravage1 | nice 🙂 | 07:12 |
| fbagnato | I keep going to the laptop and trying to make it freeze and it is rock solid. Thanks for your help :) | 07:12 |
| fbagnato | Linux can be daunting to a Windows user | 07:13 |
| fbagnato | I like it though :) | 07:13 |
| === Vercas3 is now known as Vercas | ||
| Rhonda | I am upgrading from 22.04 to 24.04. And I had yesterday the issue on a different host that the interface name changed, got an np0 added to the end. For that host it was okay because I could reach it, but for the upgrade today I don't have a remote management interface. | 08:10 |
| Rhonda | Is there any way to "calculate" or predict what the interface will be called after the reboot? | 08:10 |
| toddc | Rhonda: https://serverfault.com/questions/965873/how-to-determine-predictable-name-of-network-interface you can also disble it so it stays the same. also the first device on the pci would be eno1 | 08:18 |
| toddc | Rhonda: old way assigned by eth0 eth1 not by location on the board the new way is based on location so it is much esier to locate network devices | 08:20 |
| Rhonda | Nope, it's not eno1. It's currently already eno1np0. On the other hand the device was enp65s0f0 and is now enp65s0f0np0 | 08:27 |
| dTal | Aside: I don't understand why "predictable" network names also had to be "indecipherable, gibberish" network names. Couldn't the same system of taking into account bus address etc simply have been used to impose a deterministic *ordering* of eth0, eth1 etc? | 08:31 |
| Liowenex | So | 08:38 |
| Liowenex | Installing the lowlatency kernel seems to have fixed Ubuntu's 24.04 random crashing | 08:38 |
| Liowenex | Specifically linux-image-lowlatency-hwe-22.04 | 08:38 |
| Liowenex | I did initially try to fix it by going to 6.9.3 with the mainline utility, but that made it worse... | 08:40 |
| === SheRejoined is now known as She | ||
| === TheCaptain8985 is now known as TheCaptain898 | ||
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:49 |
| dvergata1 | hi guys I'm running into an issue recenlty with newest ubuntu docker image, meaning I've been adding user lets call him simply user and in 22.04 LTS when I was running `sudo -H -u user bash -i -c 'whoami'` I was getting the `user` value now when I have switched to 24.04 this same command is returning for me `ubuntu` value | 13:06 |
| ananke | dvergata1: how are you adding the user? did you verify if said user exists afterwards? | 13:09 |
| dvergata1 | yes | 13:10 |
| dvergata1 | it is added and exists | 13:10 |
| dvergata1 | added like this useradd --shell /bin/bash -u 1000 -d /home/user -o -c "" -m user | 13:11 |
| dvergata1 | and when I'm running from my entrypoint script that was working before this sudo command I'm getting wrong user name | 13:12 |
| dvergatal | hmmm let's talk from this account | 13:13 |
| ananke | dvergata1: why are you hardcoding userid? you may be overlapping existing user 'ubuntu' with uid 1000 | 13:13 |
| dvergatal | ananke: hmmm because previously it behaved diffrently but you are right | 13:15 |
| dvergatal | i need to check it | 13:15 |
| ananke | unless you have some dire need to have specific UIDs, don't hard code them, as it lends itself to issues | 13:16 |
| JanC | still remains the question why the 'ubuntu' user is (still?) there though? | 13:18 |
| realivanjx | i noticed that after updating my ubuntu 24.04 some blue colors are getting purple-ish at least on my brave browser. what settings i can check to tweak the colors? | 13:19 |
| dvergatal | JanC: I have no idea | 13:21 |
| realivanjx | nvm, i think it is just the brave browser messing up with blue color. does not happen on firefox for the same website | 13:26 |
| JanC | dvergatal: it's also usually recommended to use 'adduser' instead of 'useradd' (on Debian & Ubuntu) | 13:27 |
| JanC | AFAIK it would warn about double UIDs for example :) | 13:28 |
| dvergatal | JanC: ahaa | 13:28 |
| dvergatal | JanC: OK finally it is working as expected | 13:28 |
| dvergatal | I'm not adding this user `user`, instead switched to ubuntu user | 13:29 |
| ananke | useradd would be fine, if one didn't try to specifc uid. not to mention, adduser is not part of the containers | 13:29 |
| JanC | ('adduser' is a frontend to 'useradd') | 13:29 |
| dvergatal | but why there is even this ubuntu user? | 13:29 |
| ananke | dvergatal: so you don't have to add it yourself? :) | 13:30 |
| dvergatal | ananke: yeah it was a previous workaround to add this user called user because it was always a random user... | 13:30 |
| dvergatal | and now it contains this ubuntu user somehow | 13:30 |
| dvergatal | instead | 13:31 |
| ananke | you can add a simple check to verify if one exists | 13:31 |
| dvergatal | ananke: if ubuntu user exist or what? | 13:31 |
| dvergatal | or any user in home? | 13:32 |
| ananke | [ id -u 1000 ] && echo do nothing, user exists || echo make my own user here | 13:32 |
| dvergatal | ahhh nice one | 13:32 |
| dvergatal | thx | 13:32 |
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| ananke | and 'id -u 1000 -n' will give you its username | 13:33 |
| dvergatal | thx:D | 13:33 |
| dvergatal | man is always learning | 13:34 |
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| DarkenedGent | Trying to install 24.04 off a usb key and the insaller seams to be getting stuck. I have a feeling it's from a old software raid setup that was on this server previously. Any ideas? https://imgur.com/a/0w4Ju9n | 16:16 |
| ioria | DarkenedGent, not a raid expert, but sounds degraded | 16:35 |
| DarkenedGent | ioria: This is a install that is happening over the last setup. I don't need any of the existing raid configs, i'll be redoing all the disk partitioning and raid configs. | 16:40 |
| ioria | DarkenedGent, can you start the installer in live mode, like 'try ubuntu without install' ? | 16:41 |
| ravage1 | DarkenedGent: sudo wipefs -a /dev/yourdevice(s) | 16:42 |
| ravage1 | from the try ubuntu mode | 16:42 |
| ravage1 | then reboot and try again | 16:42 |
| DarkenedGent | That would require me having to boot an OS, add these drives to it, and then running that command. | 16:42 |
| ravage1 | no? | 16:43 |
| leftyfb | you should be able to do that with either the desktop live installer or the server installer | 16:43 |
| DarkenedGent | The installer fails to load, if you take a look at the screenshot i posted above. | 16:43 |
| ravage1 | any other live linux like grml will do too | 16:43 |
| darkdrgn2k | so i accidently replaced my /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 file and as you can imagine everything stopped working. | 16:45 |
| leftyfb | darkdrgn2k: reinstall | 16:46 |
| realivanjx | how to remove x11 from ubuntu 24.04 desktop? sometimes something changes my /etc/gdm3/custom.conf and disables wayland without my knowledge (either steam, lutris, or mesa, not sure) | 16:46 |
| darkdrgn2k | i booted the ubuntu server iso, mounted the root disk and replaced the file | 16:46 |
| darkdrgn2k | specifically /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2which is the one that it links to | 16:47 |
| darkdrgn2k | but now im getting __vdso_gettimeofdaySegmentation fault (core dumped) | 16:47 |
| ioria | DarkenedGent, so , or you boot first another linux livecd , wipe the disk and reload ubuntu, or try some kernel parameter | 16:47 |
| leftyfb | darkdrgn2k: reinstall | 16:48 |
| darkdrgn2k | leftyfb, what if that is not an option | 16:49 |
| darkdrgn2k | i assume its libc6 | 16:49 |
| leftyfb | realivanjx: removing "x11" isn't going to prevent a 3rd party application from making changes to your system | 16:50 |
| leftyfb | darkdrgn2k: why isn't it an option? | 16:50 |
| darkdrgn2k | cause it seems like overkill to fix one file. | 16:50 |
| DarkenedGent | ioria: ya, I can do that. It's just really stupid that is what needs to be done. I pulled the drives and booted the installer and once it came up I put them back in. Havn't gotten to the disk part yet of the installer so we'll see what happens when I get there | 16:57 |
| ioria | ok | 16:58 |
| ioria | DarkenedGent, i suggest you start the 'try mode' nevertheless | 17:00 |
| DarkenedGent | try mode? | 17:03 |
| ioria | DarkenedGent, 'try ubuntu without install' | 17:05 |
| ioria | DarkenedGent, https://www.linuxbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/Select-Install-Ubuntu-During-Installation-1024x640.png | 17:07 |
| darkdrgn2k | ok grabbed libc6_2.35-0ubuntu3.8_amd64.deb and extracted it over /mnt works great now thanks | 17:13 |
| leftyfb | darkdrgn2k: can I ask, why were you messing with anything in /lib64 to begin with? | 17:14 |
| darkdrgn2k | was making an custom initrd and used the wrong variable, copeid the files to /lib64 instead of /stg/lib64 or whatever | 17:16 |
| darkdrgn2k | cd sbin | 17:16 |
| Psi-Jack | Huh, weird.. After system updates to my tabtop, uinput module won't load. No rhyme or reason why, but it just won't load anymore. | 17:52 |
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| taeaad | What does fnmode set to 3 do? | 18:15 |
| taeaad | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard#Change_Function_Key_behavior only describes 0, 1, 2. | 18:15 |
| taeaad | It seems like the same as mode 2, but guessing here, maybe I'm wrong. | 18:16 |
| bprompt | taeaad: well, reading that, it doesn't have a 3 mode | 18:17 |
| bprompt | taeaad: is just 0, 1, or 2 | 18:17 |
| oerheks | 3 - auto (Default) | 18:17 |
| oerheks | https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Apple_Keyboard | 18:17 |
| oerheks | not all manuals show 3 | 18:18 |
| bprompt | taeaad: I'd like to point out, you can do lots of keyboard remapping with autokey, which I do btw | 18:20 |
| bprompt | !info autokey | taeaad | 18:20 |
| ubottu | taeaad: Package autokey does not exist in noble | 18:20 |
| bprompt | it doesn't? hmmmm | 18:21 |
| Psi-Jack | Oh, Ubuntu's kernel setup doesn't make uinput a module, but baked in, eh? heh | 18:21 |
| oerheks | !find autokey | 18:21 |
| ubottu | Found: autokey-common, autokey-gtk, autokey-qt | 18:21 |
| bprompt | hmmmm that info bit needs to regex the string or something | 18:22 |
| bprompt | !info autokey-qt | taeaad | 18:22 |
| ubottu | taeaad: autokey-qt (0.95.10-2.1, noble): desktop automation utility - Qt version. In component universe, is optional. Built by autokey. Size 130 kB / 645 kB | 18:22 |
| bprompt | taeaad: but in essence, using autokey, you can tell it to "trap" any key and do whatever you want instead when pressed, or key combination | 18:24 |
| taeaad | oerheks: Thanks, that explains it. | 18:37 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 18:37 |
| taeaad | I'm not sure that Qt is fully enabled on my system. | 18:37 |
| taeaad | Though I don't fully understand Qt to start off with, I just noticed that VLC doesn't have Qt enabled in settings. | 18:38 |
| oerheks | on Kubuntu? | 18:39 |
| taeaad | Xubuntu. | 18:39 |
| bprompt | taeaad: some apps provide a qt widget support, many don't | 18:39 |
| taeaad | What is the idea behind Qt, for me it's just confusing. | 18:40 |
| oerheks | QT is part of KDE, i guess | 18:40 |
| taeaad | OK. | 18:41 |
| taeaad | I do have all those autokey options in apt. | 18:42 |
| Psi-Jack | oerheks: Well, KDE uses Qt, anyway, not a part of. | 18:42 |
| Psi-Jack | KDE Plasma, and KDE Apps that is, since KDE is now to be considered the group of developers working on it. | 18:43 |
| oerheks | i know one can use those tools to build, but i find them mostly in KDE. | 18:43 |
| Psi-Jack | There's plenty of things that use Qt without KDE. | 18:43 |
| bprompt | well, QT is not part of KDE, but is regularly run with kde apps | 18:43 |
| Psi-Jack | bprompt: 👍 Exactly. | 18:43 |
| Psi-Jack | KDE Plasma/Apps uses Qt as GNOME uses GTK4. | 18:44 |
| bprompt | but if I had to choose a QT widget or a GTK one, QT is better IMO | 18:44 |
| taeaad | The Ubuntu Studio peeps use KDE, but when they switched I was a bit disappointed, but of course the topic is a bit subjective. I just like speed. | 18:44 |
| taeaad | Or maybe, "speed everywhere". | 18:45 |
| taeaad | Is autokey-common a better option then? | 18:45 |
| Eickmeyer | In KDE Plasma: "alt-shift-F12" disables effects and it becomes super-speedy. | 18:45 |
| taeaad | Eickmeyer: What about systems with limited hardware, like (very) old laptops? | 18:46 |
| bprompt | taeaad: autokey-common better to? | 18:46 |
| taeaad | Apt says there is: autokey-gtk, autokey-qt, autokey-common | 18:46 |
| Eickmeyer | taeaad: Considering the benchmark of KDE Plasma was an increase of 50MB over Xfce, the RAM usage of Plasma is greatly exaggerated. | 18:46 |
| taeaad | Eickmeyer: OK, thats good to know. | 18:47 |
| oerheks | "alt-shift-F12" noted | 18:47 |
| bprompt | taeaad: hmmm I run kde apps, however I don't run Kwin or a kde session, though my window manager is Kwin, I use LXQT, is like a LXDE but with QT widgets, runs fast | 18:47 |
| bprompt | taeaad: autokey-common are the core files for the app, not optionals per se, from there you can use either the GTK or QT version of it | 18:48 |
| bprompt | taeaad: but I use autokey-qt quite a bit for remapping and a few others stuff, since it does Python scripting too, I have well over 40 snippets in it | 18:50 |
| Psi-Jack | I have issue with volume settings not persisting accross reboots. My USB Audio Device, which is my primary audio connection to my speakers, is constantly dropping to 21% every reboot. | 18:53 |
| Psi-Jack | That is, the actual hardware mixers shown in alsamixer for the actual sound device itself. | 18:54 |
| bprompt | Psi-Jack: no using pulseaudio? | 18:57 |
| Psi-Jack | bprompt: No should be all default 24.04 setup which I believe has fully moved on to Pipewire now. | 19:02 |
| Psi-Jack | Yeah, I see pipewire and wireplumber, so yeah, pipewire stack,. | 19:02 |
| Psi-Jack | But yeah, even setting the volume as I like, at 94% on each hardware mixer channel, and running alsactl store, it's right back to 21% on boot. | 19:03 |
| bprompt | Psi-Jack: hmmm I recall some fellow having "hisssing" issues in Pipewire in Kubuntu, he installed PulseAudio, and kaboom, everything began to work, they may have moved to PipeWire, doesn't mean is fully integrated though | 19:05 |
| Psi-Jack | I've had zero issues with Pipewire in Fedora, Arch Linux, Linux Mint (manually migrated), openSUSE, etc.. | 19:06 |
| Psi-Jack | With this specific issue, this is alsactl specific. | 19:06 |
| magga- | hey guys im trying to set a custom name for my bluetooth speakers but im not able. i tried this: https://bpa.st/SJ4Q - but that didnt work. anyone suggestions? :) | 19:07 |
| Psi-Jack | Huh, alsa-utils.service is masked? | 19:07 |
| Psi-Jack | Ahh, funny, alsa-utils.services links to /dev/null | 19:09 |
| Psi-Jack | Annnd ConditionPathExists=/etc/alsa/state-daemon.conf -- File does not exist. hmmm | 19:10 |
| bprompt | Psi-Jack: no soup for U! | 19:10 |
| Psi-Jack | Okay, So alsa-restore.service is the responsible service for this. | 19:11 |
| Psi-Jack | But... What the.... It's ... saving... state to /run/alsa? WTF?!? This doesn't make sense.. | 19:13 |
| chandoo | Hi I am having issues with apt update and upgrade | 19:13 |
| chandoo | W: Failed to fetch https://repo.download.nvidia.com/jetson/t210/dists/r32.7/InRelease Could not resolve 'repo.download.nvidia.com' | 19:13 |
| chandoo | W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. | 19:13 |
| Psi-Jack | chandoo: Sounds like a network problem. | 19:14 |
| chandoo | when i click the link i can download the file | 19:14 |
| chandoo | Psi-Jack, can you help me fixing it from cmd line, i am using jetson nano with wifi | 19:15 |
| chandoo | ifconfig shows the ip | 19:16 |
| Psi-Jack | chandoo: If you're running cmd, you're doing it wrong. (This is not Windows) | 19:16 |
| chandoo | sorry i mean command line, bash | 19:16 |
| Psi-Jack | I also don't use Nvidia, so I would not be able to provide sufficient help to know if I'm actually helpful or not. | 19:17 |
| Psi-Jack | I'd thought that drivers direct from nvidia.com was always the worst thing in the world. | 19:17 |
| Psi-Jack | Notoriously, they had been. | 19:17 |
| chandoo | it was working before, I think after setup some thing got messed up | 19:18 |
| chandoo | let me search plain ubuntu wifi config from command line | 19:18 |
| Psi-Jack | "after setup?" | 19:18 |
| leftyfb | chandoo: did you confirm that other sites are resolving fine? | 19:21 |
| bprompt | chandoo: btw repo.download.nvidia.com is returning a ping | 19:21 |
| bprompt | at least from my end | 19:21 |
| leftyfb | chandoo: can you ping repo.download.nvidia.com ? | 19:22 |
| sky026 | hi all | 19:22 |
| chandoo | ping not working on any site | 19:22 |
| chandoo | but wifi says connected and got an ip as well | 19:22 |
| leftyfb | chandoo: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? | 19:23 |
| chandoo | leftyfb, No cannot | 19:23 |
| leftyfb | chandoo: what is your local ip address? | 19:23 |
| Psi-Jack | So, as I said, network issue. :) | 19:23 |
| bprompt | chandoo: sometimes you can have a "wifi" connection per se, however so-called "no internet" status, meaning, you're connected to a router or access point, that's not routing anywhere | 19:24 |
| bprompt | Psi-Jack: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/210113/default-sound-volume-for-all-alsa-devices check the "sudo alsactl store" bit maybe =) | 19:25 |
| Psi-Jack | This seems to be a very Ubuntu-specific issue as of 24.04 or so. | 19:26 |
| Psi-Jack | alsa-*.service files are wonky on the new version here, causing alsa state to not actually be saved or restored, at all. | 19:26 |
| bprompt | Psi-Jack: agree | 19:30 |
| bprompt | *cough* pulseaudio *cough* | 19:30 |
| Psi-Jack | Yeah no. Pipewire is massively better. Having been there, done that. | 19:31 |
| Psi-Jack | Heh, sheash, even switching to alsa-state instead of alsa-restore didn't solve it. | 19:35 |
| Psi-Jack | I think I know what the problem is.... For some reason CM106 was set to S/PDIF Digital output. | 19:36 |
| Psi-Jack | Boom! That was it. | 19:39 |
| Psi-Jack | And this... is why I like having pavucontrol. | 19:39 |
| Psi-Jack | Basically for those unfamiliar. When you have an audio device's profile set to Digital Output, or even Pro Audio, the volume is not effected by normal means anymore as it's intended for the digital receiver to handle audio amplification at that point., according to ALSA specifics. So saving and restoring volumes in this same manner is set to | 19:44 |
| Psi-Jack | "digital" defaults in this situation. | 19:44 |
| Psi-Jack | Probably I ended up accidently selecting the Digital Output at some time in the audio devices. (My system has many sound output & input devices), which I normally use gnome extensions, Quick Settings Audio Device Hider/Renamer to filter/name for easier use. | 19:46 |
| Psi-Jack | Huh... Okay... installing steam-installer fails with: Depends: steam-libs-i386 (= 1:1.0.0.79~ds-2) but it is not installable | 19:56 |
| Psi-Jack | I guess to not use the Steam snap, I need multiverse, eh? | 20:00 |
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| Psi-Jack | Is there a GUI, similar to Flatseal is for Flatpak, for Snap to manage/see permissions and such? | 20:07 |
| ravage1 | do not use the steam snap | 20:08 |
| leftyfb | why not? | 20:08 |
| ravage1 | too many bugs | 20:08 |
| Psi-Jack | ravage1: That's like saying "Do not breath air". | 20:08 |
| ravage1 | just use "sudo apt install steam" or download the .deb from their website | 20:09 |
| Psi-Jack | ravage1: Ironic. That fails, just as I said earlier. :p | 20:09 |
| ravage1 | then this is not a default desktop install | 20:09 |
| Psi-Jack | It is. | 20:09 |
| Psi-Jack | For one, installing "steam" specifically states that you need to install "steam-installer" and "steam-devices" specifically, in 24.04. | 20:11 |
| ravage1 | sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 ; sudo apt update | 20:11 |
| Psi-Jack | There we go! | 20:11 |
| oerheks | snaps settings are in gnome > settings > applications > <app> | 20:14 |
| Psi-Jack | I did notice Steam (the snap), would not allow me to add any storage locations, which is why I asked earlier about the GUI for snap permissions. | 20:14 |
| Psi-Jack | oerheks: Hmmm. Interesting. | 20:16 |
| oerheks | and as of 2023, you should be able to https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/steam-snap-status-improvements/39796 | 20:16 |
| oerheks | not installed steam myself, so cannot check | 20:17 |
| Psi-Jack | oerheks: Yep. the moment I tried to access "storage" it literally threw errors just opening. | 20:17 |
| ravage1 | you run shaders on your GPU kind of unrestricted with a closed source GPU driver. snap wont save you here anyway. so you can skip the pretended security and go for the deb | 20:19 |
| Psi-Jack | Then again, so did the native. Hmmm | 20:19 |
| Psi-Jack | ravage1: I use AMD RX. | 20:19 |
| ravage1 | same | 20:19 |
| Psi-Jack | Hmm, ProtonUp seems to only be in Flatpak though. heh | 20:21 |
| Psi-Jack | Argh. Same problem I had before, Far Cray 3, specifically, just does not run . Yet I got this particular game title to run flawlessly in openSUSE. Just not Fedora, Arch Linux, and now Ubuntu. | 20:41 |
| oerheks | what if you copied it to internal hdd? | 20:42 |
| Psi-Jack | oerheks: Er.. It's not installed on anything but. : | 20:43 |
| Psi-Jack | It's in my ~/Games/Steam directory locally installed on ext4. | 20:43 |
| oerheks | oh oke, i assumed external | 20:44 |
| Psi-Jack | Yeah no. I don't do that kind of weirdness. :) | 20:44 |
| Psi-Jack | Ahh, overlay renderer is one issue, I forgot to disable that. | 20:45 |
| Psi-Jack | Yeah, I don't get it. Why it works specifically and only on openSUSE> | 20:52 |
| Psi-Jack | Does not make sense. LOL | 20:53 |
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| Psi-Jack | Okay, WEIRD! I don't even have gamemode yet setup properly, but wrapping it with gamemoderun %command% specifically actually stepped it through to get the Ubisoft Connect installer to run and finally run the game! | 21:10 |
| root | hi | 21:16 |
| root | wsg | 21:16 |
| root | i am mr.root | 21:16 |
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| Guest557 | hey hey | 21:17 |
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| vivian | hi | 23:21 |
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