| sem | when zsync fails downloading in the middle, is there a way to invoke it again without having to read the seed file since it just read it | 00:05 |
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| oerheks | sem depends on the server. resume or not. | 00:05 |
| sem | well it can resume the download from the part file | 00:06 |
| oerheks | that is oke. | 00:06 |
| sem | but it has to read the local .iso all over again and that takes a long time | 00:06 |
| oerheks | oh .. not real resume | 00:06 |
| sarnold | can it read the file off disk faster than it can download it from the server? | 00:07 |
| sem | downloading might be faster... definitely less of a hassle | 00:07 |
| sem | i thought i would save canonical some money | 00:07 |
| sem | this way | 00:07 |
| KarenTheDorf | Probabally faster to read than re-download. But It Depends. | 00:08 |
| sem | especially since zsync fails in the middle about half the time and it has to read the .iso all over again, plus the .part file, and it goes slow. maybe its because i have hdd | 00:08 |
| sem | it still hasn't finished during all of me talking about it | 00:09 |
| * KarenTheDorf is also in the "spinning media in 202X" club. It's sucky. | 00:09 | |
| sarnold | ouch :/ | 00:11 |
| sem | it's still going | 00:11 |
| sem | but unlike zsync, if I use torrents to download daily images, instead of seeing a 90% complete .iso, it usually downloads the whole thing again | 00:11 |
| oerheks | sem, your iso transfer is not paid by canonical | 00:12 |
| oerheks | yes, torrents are sublime | 00:12 |
| sem | so i guess you are saying that if my goal is to save canonical money, i should prefer the torrent even though it 'wastes' some... resource? by downloading again | 00:13 |
| sem | it might use less energy to just download it again rather than read the file in zsync especially if it has to do it twice | 00:13 |
| sarnold | sem: when I saw "downloads the whole thing again" behaviour from torrents it meant that ecryptfs was *not* ready for prime trime | 00:14 |
| oerheks | don' t worry about that, choose a safe method | 00:14 |
| sarnold | s/trime/time/ wow what a typo :) | 00:14 |
| sarnold | sem: i'd worry about your drives being bad if a torrent throws away old contents | 00:15 |
| sem | sarnold, my theory was that the hashes of last week's oracular daily were different enough from this weeks that it didn't see any identical chunks | 00:15 |
| sarnold | sem: oh, that's very likely | 00:16 |
| oerheks | oh, daily | 00:16 |
| sem | zsync must use a different method to know that the iso is 90% similar | 00:16 |
| oerheks | those should not interfere, different download name/number | 00:16 |
| sem | i'll try it again next time, and see if the torrent is able to use an old .iso | 00:17 |
| oerheks | https://torrent.ubuntu.com/tracker_index | 00:18 |
| sem | i guess they don't make torrents of the daily's... makes sense | 00:23 |
| oerheks | jups | 00:23 |
| oerheks | no, just not listed | 00:23 |
| sem | this is the command i use whenever i have to test out something in the daily: $ cd / && sudo zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/oracular-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync && sudo rm oracular-desktop-amd64.iso.zs-old && echo "removed .zs-old" | 00:23 |
| oerheks | oh no, you are right https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 00:24 |
| oerheks | no. | 00:41 |
| sem | no? | 00:41 |
| oerheks | yes. | 00:41 |
| sem | ok :) | 00:41 |
| oerheks | https://imgur.com/gallery/todays-medicine-IfJw3N2 | 00:42 |
| sem | heh | 00:43 |
| mint | ? | 01:05 |
| === antonispgs5 is now known as antonispgs | ||
| Psi-Jack | So, an interesting other issue I've run into, and I'm not really sure why this is happening, and this is exactly why I previously primarily used Discord in Flatpak. When I fire up Steam, just *starting* the Steam client and not even running anything, my Discord "Rich Presence" starts to report very unusual things that it's not supposed to nor | 01:49 |
| Psi-Jack | should it have access to. srt-brap, and pressure-vessel-wrap are two things of note that one by one gets reported in it, and there's about 2~5 other things happening with it, until it clears status. | 01:49 |
| Psi-Jack | Also, Steam presence somehow reporting that I'm running a game, however, details of it are incorrect, graphics are incorrect... I mean steampresence.py did better, and honored my status of Invisible, while this is not. | 01:50 |
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| webchat21 | I hard-shutdown my laptop and now X window manager won't start (even after reboot). Just a bash prompt, can't xdg-open anything. | 04:22 |
| webchat21 | Oops wasn't done typing, but could use some help if anyone's there | 04:23 |
| webchat21 | ~$ firefox | 04:24 |
| webchat21 | Error: no DISPLAY environment variable specified | 04:25 |
| Bashing-om | webchat21: A thought - hard shut down and now the file system is corrupt; ext4 as the file system then try and see what ' fsck ' reports for the system health. | 04:26 |
| webchat21 | Typing that warned me that executing it will cause severe filesystem damage | 04:30 |
| webchat21 | It does say something is mounted, though. Hope that means good health | 04:32 |
| Bashing-om | webchat21: Yeah - can not operate on a mounted system - moving target ! // must run a file system check/repair from an alternate - a liveUSB or another installed butu . ' sudo fdisk -lu ' to know the target. | 04:32 |
| Bashing-om | webchat21: Now there is a rudimentary "fsck" available in grub's boot menu. | 04:34 |
| webchat21 | How do I tell if I'm in grub or bash? I think I'm in bash | 04:35 |
| Bashing-om | webchat21: Well, did you log into the system ? | 04:35 |
| webchat21 | Yes | 04:36 |
| webchat21 | Guess I'll have to make a liveUSB tomorrow then. Sad trombone noises. | 04:36 |
| webchat21 | Internet down here too. Typing from phone and data. | 04:37 |
| webchat21 | Thank you bashing-om | 04:37 |
| Bashing-om | webchat21: thyen you are at a TTY, // reboot and as soon as the bios screen appears spam the escape key to get grub's attention > advanced options > recovery kernel selection. | 04:38 |
| webchat21 | Ok! Trying now... | 04:39 |
| Bashing-om | webchat21: escape key assumes a UEFI system --- legacy systyem is the shift key that grub looks for. | 04:40 |
| webchat21 | I select "advanced options for Ubuntu" and see 6 options, 3 of them being recovery mode. They use different Linux versions is what separates them it seems. Choose highest number version? | 04:42 |
| Bashing-om | webchat21: Yeah - means you have 3 kernels installed however. | 04:43 |
| webchat21 | I can fsck from here, but will that do the damage as warned earlier? | 04:44 |
| Bashing-om | webchat21: At this point the file system is not mounted // will do no damage here :D // watch the result - likely to tell you that you must next run a "manual file system check". | 04:47 |
| webchat21 | It says it's mounted and cannot continue | 04:49 |
| Bashing-om | webchat21: Does bot meet my recolection // lemme reboot here and I check from my sytstem if you do not care to wait for my result. | 04:56 |
| Bashing-om | bot/not* | 04:56 |
| webchat21 | I'll wait. Thank you | 04:57 |
| Bashing-om | back in a bit. | 04:57 |
| Bashing-om | webchat21: Ouch - ^ Is so // No idea of when this changed / what is the value of an option that one can not use ? // well back to plan B and manke up a liveUSB :( | 05:06 |
| webchat21 | Thank you anyway bashing-om. I'm surprised you took the time to help me | 05:07 |
| webchat21 | If I get things working again I'll come back here to tell how it was done | 05:07 |
| lotuspsychje | webchat21: secureboot disabled? | 05:09 |
| webchat21 | Idk what that is, so I guess yes | 05:09 |
| lotuspsychje | webchat21: can yo still enter grub recoverymode? wich ubuntu release/flavour is this? | 05:09 |
| webchat21 | Yes can enter grub. Ubuntu 22.04 LTS | 05:10 |
| Bashing-om | webchat21: A file system check is but the first line of attack / but one has to have a firm foundatuion from which to push. | 05:10 |
| webchat21 | Do I have to be connected to see messages, or if I'm gone I'll never see them again | 05:20 |
| Bashing-om | webchat21: Unless you are on a bouncer for the IRC connection - messgaes are gone --- however this channel is logged :D | 05:22 |
| Psi-Jack | Heh, so that's hilarious. For some reason some very specific Yaru-*-dark themes don't work in Flatpak apps. Specifically Yaru-blue-dark doesn't work, while Yaru-sage-dark works fine. | 06:15 |
| tuxinator | Hi all | 06:17 |
| tuxinator | ok, this is strange, can't do realm join to a kerberos domain if mdns is disabled in nsswitch, any explanation? | 06:18 |
| Psi-Jack | What the duck?!? My volumes all just jumped down to 21% again, out of the blue. | 06:23 |
| rustyy | hey guys, where do i find dbgsym package for a linux kernel package from esm/pro repository? | 07:31 |
| rustyy | is there a esm/pro dbgsym repo? | 07:32 |
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| oem | hey people | 11:12 |
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| loganlee | is it worth to upgrade 20.04.3 LTS to newest version? | 11:59 |
| loganlee | i've used it for a very long time so it might break after upgrading or something... | 12:01 |
| loganlee | third party repos and flatpak etc etc | 12:02 |
| leftyfb | loganlee: 20.04 will be unsupported by the community come April 2025. I would highly recommend taking the time to backup your files and take notes of what you have installed and plan on upgrading to 24.04 in late August | 12:02 |
| loganlee | :-O | 12:02 |
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| loganlee | should i comment out third party repos in apt that no longer works? | 12:25 |
| loganlee | before upgrading | 12:25 |
| leftyfb | always | 12:27 |
| gry | :) | 12:27 |
| leftyfb | you should comment out and remove the packages from the 3rd party repos as well as they will not get upgraded and could cause issues | 12:27 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:42 |
| sem | hello BluesKaj | 12:47 |
| === mateus-morais0 is now known as mateus-morais | ||
| BluesKaj | hi sem | 12:55 |
| loganlee | upgrading to 22.04 *fingers crossed* | 12:57 |
| sem | good luck | 12:59 |
| loganlee | ty | 12:59 |
| loganlee | just disabled third party repos without actually removing the packages | 12:59 |
| ogra_ | FWIW, you shouldnt need to comment out 3rd party repos, update-manager should do this by default anyway (though doing it manually you would prevent to hit any bugs of update-manager i guess) | 13:00 |
| loganlee | sure | 13:01 |
| lotuspsychje | but left over packages from ppa's might still conflict right? | 13:02 |
| mgedmin | might | 13:02 |
| ogra_ | IIRC update-manager tries to reverse-resolve these packages and remove them *if* the repo is known ... but not sure it still does this | 13:03 |
| lotuspsychje | i would still go for the safe route as leftyfb adviced | 13:04 |
| mgedmin | it very much depends on what the packages are; back in the day when I used the gnome ppa to upgrade half of my system, I had terrible issues during release upgrades | 13:10 |
| mgedmin | more typical PPAs that install new packages otherwise not found in ubuntu archives (or backports from newer ubuntu releases) have never caused me trouble during upgrades | 13:11 |
| lotuspsychje | think its always a safe routine, before upgrading to backup, make system up to date and sort ppa's/conflicting packages in front | 13:12 |
| mgedmin | by "sort" you mean ppa-purge? | 13:13 |
| lotuspsychje | mgedmin: well, at least sort apt errors out before upgrading | 13:13 |
| mgedmin | oh yeah | 13:14 |
| ogra_ | that kind of hits you in the face anyway since you need to upgrade yuor current release to all latest SW | 13:17 |
| ogra_ | so hard to miss apt errors there i guess 🙂 | 13:17 |
| lotuspsychje | its true during upgrade the user can still be asked a lot of questions | 13:18 |
| multifractal | The software update dialog just popped up. In additon to a list of security updates and other updates, it's also showing me "Ubuntu pro security updates" for several packages. Since i'm not paying for pro, does this mean these packages will remain with security vulnerabilities? | 13:47 |
| ogra_ | pro is free | 13:50 |
| ogra_ | (for any non-commercial use) | 13:51 |
| Psi-Jack | For up to 5 computers anyway. | 13:51 |
| ogra_ | and yes, if you do not sign up for pro, the universe packages will stay vulnerable ... like they always did for the last 20<y | 13:51 |
| Psi-Jack | In pro, they are more "security maintained?" | 13:52 |
| ogra_ | (well, you might get community CVE fixes for some, but they are really rare, which is why this pro feature was designed) | 13:52 |
| p4ooo | hello. When I launch python3 it shows me "Python 3.10.12 (main, Nov 20 2023, 15:14:05) [GCC 11.4.0] on linux". But apt install python3 says that "python3 is already the newest version (3.10.6-1~22.04)." . how can I fix this? It seems that two conflicting versions are installed | 13:52 |
| ogra_ | not "more" ... they are security maintained for all high and critical CVEs | 13:53 |
| ogra_ | like all main packages | 13:53 |
| Psi-Jack | Huh. Okay. I'm not very familiar with Ubuntu these days, but I'm going all-out in using it as a desktop for like the first time in ~10 years. | 13:53 |
| ogra_ | universe has always only gotten best effort security fixes from the community while in main all high and critical CVEs were always fixed .... pro simply extends that to all of universe now | 13:54 |
| Psi-Jack | I see. | 13:55 |
| ogra_ | but you can stick with the old way if you like | 13:55 |
| Psi-Jack | Well, I hooked up both computers on Ubuntu Pro when I installed. | 13:55 |
| ogra_ | oh, and for ubuntu community members it is actually 50 machines ... | 13:56 |
| ogra_ | (if you are an approved member) | 13:56 |
| Psi-Jack | Eh? Their Ubuntu Pro site says 5. | 13:56 |
| ogra_ | for "normal" people 🙂 | 13:56 |
| Psi-Jack | So, what's it take to get this approval for 50? | 13:57 |
| ogra_ | if you are approved community member you get extra benefits ... like the @ubuntu.com mail address and ... well, 50 tokens for pro | 13:57 |
| ogra_ | https://ubuntu.com/community/membership | 13:57 |
| ravage1 | but you should not apply because you want benefits | 13:58 |
| ravage1 | that's the wrong order | 13:58 |
| Psi-Jack | Hah. Of course not. | 13:58 |
| ogra_ | well, you can ... but you still need to prove sustained contribution 🙂 | 13:58 |
| Psi-Jack | Well, I've been known to be part of the community I eat my own dogfood in, when it's something I value. And lately, I value good healthy community that's helpful to each other and not judgementally toxic, which seems to be harder to find, these days. | 14:01 |
| Psi-Jack | Though, I kinda wish Ubuntu's chat wasn't limited to IRC. Matrix has been a long growing thing and a lot of communities are flocking to Matrix and/or Discord. | 14:02 |
| ravage1 | it isn't | 14:02 |
| ogra_ | ubuntu is too | 14:03 |
| Psi-Jack | Ohhh, I see now. On their own domain too. I see. #matrix-ops:ubuntu.com? | 14:03 |
| ravage1 | https://ubuntu.com/community/communications/matrix | 14:03 |
| ogra_ | https://ubuntu.com/community/communications/matrix | 14:03 |
| ogra_ | heh, ravage1 beats me | 14:04 |
| ravage1 | even through my matrix bridge :D | 14:04 |
| ogra_ | hah | 14:04 |
| Psi-Jack | heh | 14:06 |
| Psi-Jack | Well, good to know for sure. Thank you. | 14:07 |
| Psi-Jack | It's weird. I really do like this "Yaru" theme that I believe is Ubuntu's own creation, if my understanding is correct? But Yaru-blue-dark specifically does not work in Flatpak, while Yaru-sage-dark and most others (not all), do. | 14:09 |
| Psi-Jack | Heh, I guess one of the benefits, additionally, of me going back to Ubuntu is the sane ability to use my apt-cacher-ng hosts I already have setup, and without even having to *do* anything manually to use them because of auto-apt-proxy and DNS is already setup. | 14:12 |
| Psi-Jack | Is there a good RSS-feed news source for ubuntu-related news? | 14:14 |
| Psi-Jack | Though, isn't running auto-apt-proxy, when run manually, supposed to tell you what servers it's found? | 14:27 |
| Psi-Jack | Yes.. yes it is... But it's failing for me for some reason, hmmm. | 14:28 |
| Psi-Jack | That's.. So weird. auto-apt-proxy works on all my debian servers in my PVE cluster, but not on my desktop subnet, yet dns resolution shows it up just fine. | 14:36 |
| Psi-Jack | Ahhhh... hostname --domain is returning blank. | 14:40 |
| lotuspsychje | Psi-Jack: we got a not official #techrss here on libera if you like with linux/ubuntu rss news | 14:41 |
| Psi-Jack | lotuspsychje: I'm using Nextcloud News with NewsFlash app, along with ... This weirdly named mastodon client Tuba. LOL | 14:41 |
| lotuspsychje | come to the #ubuntu-discuss channel if you like Psi-Jack | 14:43 |
| TheNumb | Hey folks, been seeing some odd behavior on GCP archive mirrors in various regions, seems like bionic is missing. Have you seen any reports like that in the last hour or so? | 16:24 |
| ravage1 | that sounds like a question to the google support? | 16:25 |
| TheNumb | Those mirrors seem to be maintained by canonical, looking at ASN. | 16:26 |
| TheNumb | But maybe, yeah | 16:26 |
| capy | Hi | 16:26 |
| lotuspsychje | welcome capy | 16:27 |
| oerheks | !bionic | 16:28 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver) was the 28th release of Ubuntu. Support ended May 31st, 2023. See !eol, !pro and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2023-May/000290.html | 16:28 |
| oerheks | ..was.. | 16:28 |
| ravage1 | https://cloud.google.com/compute/docs/eol/ubuntu-eol | 16:28 |
| oerheks | dead Jim | 16:29 |
| TheNumb | Well, we’ve got an Ubuntu pro contract so… | 16:29 |
| ravage1 | then you are wrong here anyway | 16:29 |
| ravage1 | we are not canonical nor google | 16:29 |
| TheNumb | Yup, seems like it | 16:29 |
| TheNumb | I know, just asking around in case someone else reported mirror weirdness | 16:30 |
| oerheks | pro does not include desktops and such | 16:30 |
| TheNumb | The regular mirror archives are slow for me today but meh, what can you do. | 16:30 |
| TheNumb | Thanks anyways! | 16:31 |
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| Psi-Jack | oerheks: What? Pro does not include desktops and such? Why would Ubuntu Desktop then offer Pro upon post-installation? | 17:47 |
| leftyfb | Psi-Jack: what? | 17:47 |
| leftyfb | Psi-Jack: https://imgur.com/a/krgu1f8 Ubuntu pro works just fine on desktops | 17:48 |
| oerheks | not all packages get updates after 5 years? | 17:49 |
| leftyfb | also https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/6Tkcx2yy9K/ | 17:49 |
| oerheks | - esm | 17:49 |
| oerheks | so, bionic is kinda dead? | 17:49 |
| leftyfb | as far as community support goes, definitely | 17:49 |
| leftyfb | after community support ends, you'll need to contact Canonical for any further support | 17:50 |
| oerheks | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1452497/what-are-esm-apps-and-how-do-they-relate-to-ubuntu-pro | 17:50 |
| Psi-Jack | okay, so I have an issue where AppArmor is denying access to a user systemd service, steam-presence.service, to name="run/flatpak/app/com.discordapp.Discord/discord-ipc-0" and I'm guessing similarly the Discord snap would have the same issue as a result. | 18:03 |
| leftyfb | Psi-Jack: I would try the discord snap and not assume it'll have the same issue as flatpak which isn't officially supported on ubuntu | 18:04 |
| Psi-Jack | I mean, sure, I can try it. But it's already been mentioned in other news that it has been. :) | 18:05 |
| Psi-Jack | I think for discord it would need the "system-observe" permission enabled specifically. | 18:05 |
| Psi-Jack | Yeah, same issue happens with the Discord snap. | 18:14 |
| PeGaSuS | any hints on a way to remap some key combo to output a specific char? on this `fr` keyboard, I don't have the lesser/greater symbols. I'd like to switch the Alt+Z from "«" to "<" instead | 18:17 |
| PeGaSuS | and Alt+X from "»" to ">" | 18:17 |
| lotuspsychje | !info input-remapper | PeGaSuS | 18:21 |
| ubottu | PeGaSuS: input-remapper (2.0.1-1, noble): Input device button mapping tool (metapackage). In component universe, is optional. Built by input-remapper. Size 2 kB / 9 kB | 18:21 |
| PeGaSuS | thanks | 18:25 |
| Psi-Jack | So, this is what's changed from 22.04 to 23.10 and up causing issues: https://ubuntu.com/blog/ubuntu-23-10-restricted-unprivileged-user-namespaces | 18:45 |
| oerheks | Psi-Jack, contact the flatpak publisher? | 18:50 |
| Psi-Jack | It's not flatpak. | 18:50 |
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| oerheks | we have no saying in that, nor launchpad can help with bugreports | 18:51 |
| Psi-Jack | https://github.com/JustTemmie/steam-presence it's this, specifically, run as a user systemd service, that's being denied to discord-ipc-9 | 18:51 |
| Psi-Jack | 0* | 18:51 |
| oerheks | oh, Discord snap. | 18:51 |
| Psi-Jack | Yep. | 18:52 |
| oerheks | prp stuff, lolz | 18:52 |
| Psi-Jack | steam-presence is also designed to look for and speak to XDG_RUNTIME_DIR/snap.discord/discord-ipc-0 | 18:52 |
| === sotaoverride is now known as Guest9046 | ||
| CosmicDJ | hm this is weird, I can't seem to run any steam proton games anymore, error is always: "Jun 12 21:47:11 ubnt steam_steam.desktop[9906]: /home/cdj/snap/steam/common/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/GameA/GameA.exe: 11: Syntax error: "(" unexpected (expecting ")")" anyone seen this before? | 19:48 |
| CosmicDJ | hm... I switched the proton version to smth else and now it works, still weird... | 19:51 |
| Psi-Jack | "something else?" | 19:53 |
| CosmicDJ | Psi-Jack: from GE-Proton 9.7 to Proton 9.0-2 | 19:57 |
| Psi-Jack | Gah... I haven't learned enough AppArmor to figure this out yet. I want to grant rw access to the discord-ipc-0 socket. heh | 20:08 |
| dude23945853745 | Hello! Can anyone elaborate where did screenshots.ubuntu.com gone? I'm using Kubuntu 22.04 with KDE plasma 5.24.7. Problem is that plasma-discover doesn't load some screenshots. My pihole logs show resolution tries of t which does not have any dns records except of ns1.canonical.com. I found almost identical working site screenshots.debian.net, which seems to be original, and ubuntu version was a copy of it. Is there any way | 20:27 |
| dude23945853745 | to tell plasma-discover to use debian site instead? Maybe someone could point where screenshots source is defined? | 20:27 |
| JanC | dude23945853745: I wonder why it disappeared | 20:49 |
| JanC | dude23945853745: did that actually work in Plasma Discover before, or did you just start using it? | 20:53 |
| dude23945853745 | I don't remember =/ | 20:53 |
| JanC | dude23945853745: did you ask that in #kubuntu also? | 20:56 |
| dude23945853745 | Yes, nobody answered yet | 20:56 |
| JanC | maybe file a bug report against plasma-discover and then the package maintainers can find out where it should load the images from... | 21:00 |
| dude23945853745 | I'll try it later, thanks | 21:01 |
| genevy | Good evening, when trying to install the fortclient.deb package on Ubuntu 24.04 it returns an error stating that the libraries are obsolete | 22:24 |
| ravage1 | !info openfortivpn | 22:25 |
| ubottu | openfortivpn (1.21.0-2build2, noble): Fortinet client for PPP+SSL VPN tunnel services. In component universe, is optional. Built by openfortivpn. Size 57 kB / 155 kB. (Only available for linux-any.) | 22:25 |
| genevy | !info fortclient | 22:27 |
| ubottu | Package fortclient does not exist in noble | 22:27 |
| oerheks | their forum might be a help, https://community.fortinet.com/t5/Support-Forum/Ubuntu-24-04-Forticlient-VPN-installation-w-DNS-resolution-fix/td-p/312896 | 22:28 |
| oerheks | pretty recent https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openfortivpn | 22:30 |
| ravage1 | the open source client works much better | 22:30 |
| oerheks | seeing trouble on their forum, yes | 22:31 |
| genevy | thanks, i'll try to use the procedure in the forum | 22:41 |
| webchat21 | Hi. I hard shutdown my Ubuntu laptop and now X server won't start up on rebooting. I think the overall filesystem is fine. I have no window system and I'm a noob. What I've googled has not helped me start X again | 23:17 |
| sarnold | webchat21: try a reboot before investing too much time into it | 23:17 |
| webchat21 | I've done about 10 of those | 23:17 |
| sarnold | webchat21: my laptop won't boot into graphics every now and then and I used to spent ten or fifteen minutes trying to sort it out without success, but a reboot works almost always | 23:18 |
| sarnold | oh :( | 23:18 |
| sarnold | try journalctl -e and less /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- you might find something in one of these | 23:19 |
| sarnold | ~/.xsession-errors *might* have something, that's less likely though | 23:19 |
| kostkon | webchat21 is it X or wayland? | 23:20 |
| kostkon | ok | 23:20 |
| sarnold | heh | 23:20 |
| sarnold | if he comes back, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/2068738 might also be worth an exploration | 23:22 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2068738 in linux (Ubuntu Jammy) "AMD GPUs fail with null pointer dereference when IOMMU enabled, leading to black screen" [High, In Progress] | 23:22 | |
| sarnold | webchat21: check this out, does this look related? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/2068738 | 23:24 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2068738 in linux (Ubuntu Jammy) "AMD GPUs fail with null pointer dereference when IOMMU enabled, leading to black screen" [High, In Progress] | 23:24 | |
| webchat21 | That sounds like an error baked into the code. X would run fine (until I did the hard shutdown), so I don't think it's that | 23:27 |
| sarnold | my guess is that you got a kernel update somewhere before that hard shutdown | 23:28 |
| sarnold | can you select a previous kernel from grub? I think you need to hold down the left shift key to get the grub menu | 23:29 |
| oerheks | not related to hard shutdown, boot in recovery mode etc | 23:29 |
| webchat21 | I'll try using another kernel | 23:29 |
| webchat21 | I used fsck already and filesystem seems ok too | 23:30 |
| webchat21 | 3 kernels don't change it, they all successfully boot to a tty. | 23:34 |
| sarnold | bugger | 23:34 |
| webchat21 | But no window manager. Would it be easier just to get another window manager? | 23:34 |
| sarnold | only if it's only your window manager that's affected | 23:35 |
| webchat21 | I'll try | 23:35 |
| sarnold | it might be easier to create a new user account | 23:35 |
| sarnold | and test that | 23:35 |
| webchat21 | I'll try that first | 23:35 |
| sarnold | it's *way* easier to undo :) | 23:35 |
| webchat21 | Adding user didn't work will try getting different window manager | 23:42 |
| Psi-Jack | Sheash.. Had to, for the moment, disable userns confinement until I can figure out how to work with it properly. | 23:42 |
| webchat21 | I uninstalled and reinstalled a minimal x setup. I can use a browser now thanks to this https://askubuntu.com/questions/213678/how-to-install-x11-xorg#259480 | 23:51 |
| webchat21 | It's noticably not the same but I'll work out the kinks and the problem is solved. So thank you sarnold and others | 23:52 |
| sarnold | lol yeah openbox is a *huge* change .. | 23:52 |
| sarnold | I remember liking it well enough when I ran it :) | 23:52 |
| sarnold | but it's a big change | 23:52 |
| webchat21 | Is there an easy way to get back the default that comes with Ubuntu 22.04? | 23:53 |
| sarnold | webchat21: try apt install ubuntu-desktop^ -- note that caret, that means to install the task, not the metapackage | 23:58 |
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