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cpaelzerFYI to the MIR folks in ~32 min, slyon will be so kind to handle the meeting controls as I'll be distracted in another meeting - thanks in advance.13:58
slyono/ I'll run the MIR meeting today, as paelzer is busy.14:30
slyon#startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status14:30
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slyonPing for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe )14:30
slyon#topic current component mismatches14:30
slyonMission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams14:30
dviererbeo/14:30
slyon#link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg14:30
slyon#link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg14:30
sarnoldgood morning14:31
slyonthis looks all known, with some component-mismatches left in -proposed for jamespage14:31
slyonthat is: python-inflect and python-arrow14:31
jamespagehere14:31
slyonwe're still early in the cylce, so there should be enough time to get those resolved.14:32
jamespageI have someone in my team who is going to prepare those MIR's14:32
sarnoldwoot14:32
slyonnice, thanks!14:32
slyon#topic New MIRs14:32
slyonMission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing14:32
slyon#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir14:32
slyonbug #206930814:32
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2069308 in xdg-terminal-exec (Ubuntu) "MIR xdg-terminal-exec" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206930814:32
slyonone new MIR for review, do we have volunteers?14:33
slyonAlso, this seems to be written by non-desktop people, to be owned by Desktop. Do we have agreement on this (cc seb128, jbicha, didrocks). If so – please state your consent on the LP bug.14:34
slyonLooks like we have no volunteers for the review. So I can take it for next week (considering the owning team will be clarified by then).14:35
slyon#topic Incomplete bugs / questions14:35
slyonMission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams14:35
slyon#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir14:36
slyonbug #2066272 has some smaller ask for jbicha around testing14:36
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2066272 in libpanel (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libpanel" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/206627214:36
slyonbug #2015538 – tracking update. Still needs someone doing the upstream work14:36
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2015538 in dbus-broker (Ubuntu) "[MIR] dbus-broker" [Undecided, Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/201553814:36
slyonno other recent updates14:37
slyon#topic Process/Documentation improvements14:37
slyonMission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues14:37
slyon#link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls14:37
slyon#link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues14:37
slyonhttps://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues/59 is new14:38
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Issue 59 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "Test rebuilds: What exactly do they mean and where are they?" [Open]14:38
jbichaslyon: nteodosio is Ubuntu Desktop and yes, we approve of the xdg-terminal-exec MIR14:38
slyonjbicha: cool. I wasn't aware!14:38
slyoncpaelzer, didrocks: please give you comments on https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues/59 – I'll also add some details after the meeting (especially links to the test-rebuilds). So we might be able to improve that section.14:39
-ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Issue 59 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "Test rebuilds: What exactly do they mean and where are they?" [Open]14:39
slyonbut we can do that async I guess.14:39
slyon#topic MIR related Security Review Queue14:40
slyonMission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable?14:40
slyonSome clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place.14:40
slyon#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir14:40
slyon#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir14:40
slyonInternal link14:40
slyon#link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/59414:40
slyonsarnold: how are things looking for MIR security reviews?14:40
sarnoldslyon: currently, a little sad :( no takers yet for provd or sysprof, and turnover may make it challenging to find time :(14:41
slyonokay. Let's try keeping an close eye on that then. Currently, the queues look alright, so there's still a buffer. But we need to find capacity going forward.14:42
slyon#topic Any other business?14:43
sarnoldnone here14:43
* slyon feels like (almost) having a monologue :D14:43
slyonokay. this was a quick meeting then, with little things being brought up. Let's hope people do not just realize towards the end of the cycle that they need their MIRs :)14:44
slyonLet's get some 15 min back everyone. Thanks all o/14:44
sarnoldslyon: oh but it's a *good* monologue, right upthere with saint crispin's speech14:44
slyonhehe14:44
sarnoldthanks slyon, all :)14:44
slyon#endmeeting14:44
meetingologyMeeting ended at 14:44:51 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-06-18-14.30.moin.txt14:44
rbasako/19:00
amurrayo/19:00
sil2100o/19:00
sil2100I'll start in a moment19:01
sil2100#startmeeting Ubuntu Technical Board19:01
meetingologyMeeting started at 19:01:33 UTC.  The chair is sil2100.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology19:01
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sil2100#topic Apologies19:01
sil2100As last time, vorlon sent apologies for the next few meetings19:01
sil2100#topi Action review19:02
sil2100Let me go through the list from last meeting19:02
sil2100Action: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification19:03
sil2100rbasak: any progress?19:03
rbasakThis is pending finalisation of the snap implementation details. I'm making good progress on this. You'll see some updates in the doc, particularly in the area of behaviour on release upgrade.19:03
rbasakUh19:03
rbasakSorry, wrong answer.19:03
rbasakNo progress on the inactivity expiration policy, sorry.19:03
rbasakI've been focused on the other thing ;)19:03
sil2100Let's carry this one over and chat a bit about the third party repo bits19:04
sil2100#action rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification19:04
meetingologyACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification19:04
sil2100So I don't see a carry-pover action item for the aforementioned topic19:04
rbasakACTION: rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy19:04
rbasakThat one19:04
sil2100I did read through it after last meeting at least and in that stage the ready parts felt good for me19:04
sil2100rbasak: that's not the up-to-date action list19:05
sil2100https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-06-04-19.07.moin.txt19:05
rbasakAh OK19:05
rbasakI think that should have been carried over19:05
sil2100I think we forgot to update the Agenda page?19:05
sil2100Let me add it now then!19:05
sil2100#action rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy19:05
meetingologyACTION: rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy19:05
sil2100rbasak: does it need a re-read if I checked it right after last TB meeting?19:06
amurraysorry I think I forgot to update the wiki after the last meeting19:06
sil2100amurray: that's fine :) The meeting logs are actually always conveniently there19:06
rbasaksil2100: if you care about specifics about the handling of snap channels on release upgrade. That's the only area of substantial change.19:07
rbasakNote that it's still a draft at this stage. If you don't keep up, there will still be an opportunity to provide feedback before a final version.19:07
sil2100ACK o/19:08
sil2100Thank you!19:08
sil2100Let's move on19:08
rbasakThough I'm trying to get the substantial stuff settled asap.19:08
sil2100Action: vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays19:08
sil2100Let's carry over19:08
sil2100#action vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays19:08
meetingologyACTION: vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays19:08
sil2100Next one as well as we don't seem to have seb128 around today o/19:09
sil2100#action seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations19:09
meetingologyACTION: seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations19:09
seb128carry over please19:09
sil2100Yay!19:09
seb128I'm around, sorry I arrived a few minutes late and didn't want to disturbe the meeting which was already started :p19:09
sil2100Good to have you around o/19:09
seb128:)19:09
sil2100Next one is for vorlon, so I'll also carry it over19:09
sil2100Actually, let me take this one from Steve: vorlon to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification re the number of contacts listed for the flavor19:10
sil2100I'll try to tackle it while he's gone19:10
sil2100#action sil2100 to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification re the number of contacts listed for the flavor19:10
meetingologyACTION: sil2100 to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification re the number of contacts listed for the flavor19:10
sil2100#topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item)19:11
sil2100#link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-June/thread.html19:11
sil2100Nothing new there19:11
sil2100I see we had a bit of spam in moderation19:11
sil2100But nothing besides that19:11
sil2100#topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs19:12
sil2100I see no new bugs for us to act on19:12
sil2100#topic Select a chair for the next meeting (next from https://launchpad.net/~techboard/+members)19:12
sil2100Next meeting chair would be rbasak, with seb128 as reserve?19:13
sil2100Is that fine with everyone?19:13
seb128yes! :)19:13
sil2100#agreed Next meeting chair: rbasak, backup: seb12819:13
meetingologyAGREED: Next meeting chair: rbasak, backup: seb12819:13
sil2100#topic AOB19:13
sil2100Anything to discuss?19:13
rbasakack19:14
seb128not from me19:14
amurraynothing from me19:14
sil2100I suppose we should all keep a lookout for progress on the third party repository document19:14
sil2100rbasak keep us posted!19:14
sil2100And thank you for driving that!19:15
sil2100Okay, if there's nothing else, and no outside requests or queries, let me end the meeting for today19:15
sil2100#endmeeting19:15
meetingologyMeeting ended at 19:15:39 UTC.  Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-06-18-19.01.moin.txt19:15
sil2100Thank you everyone!19:15
amurraythanks sil210019:15
seb128thanks sil2100!19:16

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