| oerheks | DrManhattan, see https://launchpad.net/~fingerprint/+archive/ubuntu/fingerprint-gui | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| oerheks | for supported devices | 00:01 |
| oerheks | if you do a research about your laptop/device, you could find out | 00:02 |
| DrManhattan | oerheks, yeah, I hear you. I don't think my fingerprint device is supported. It's encrypted and it requires a proprietary driver from Lenovo that I don't think exists | 00:06 |
| oerheks | encription on devices is on the wishlist, but in progress | 00:09 |
| oerheks | systemd | 00:09 |
| DrManhattan | Oh well, no magic IRC wand for me | 00:11 |
| curl | what' | 00:54 |
| curl | what's the biggest irc server nowadays ? | 00:55 |
| curl | I used to be on freenode > #programming quite a lot back in the day | 00:55 |
| oerheks | not an ubuntu support issue | 00:55 |
| curl | But I saw it was moved to libera chat | 00:55 |
| curl | Yet I can't find the old #programming server anywhere | 00:55 |
| JanC | IRC servers aren't relevent anyway, networks are | 00:55 |
| curl | https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/o063fc/freenode_commits_suicide_is_no_longer_a_serious/ | 00:56 |
| JanC | you probably want to join the ##programming channel | 00:56 |
| oerheks | please, take that elsewere | 00:56 |
| curl | I'm just trying to figure out | 00:56 |
| curl | Yes @JanC | 00:56 |
| curl | I'm just trying to join the ##programming channel haha | 00:57 |
| oerheks | !register | 00:57 |
| ubottu | For information on registering your IRC nick, see https://libera.chat/guides/registration - For any further help, ask in #libera | 00:57 |
| curl | I think /join ##programming worked | 00:59 |
| curl | Thanks @JanC! | 00:59 |
| sarnold | curl: https://irc.netsplit.de/networks/ | 01:00 |
| bparker | wow, hostile much | 01:06 |
| bparker | let's all be nice | 01:08 |
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| aadesh | hlo | 01:55 |
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| apurva | hi All I am new member of Ubuntu Cult | 03:29 |
| mybalzitch | that was short lived | 04:47 |
| bparker | I'm shocked you haven't been banned for using that nick | 04:47 |
| mybalzitch | shocked and appaled. | 04:48 |
| RegularPaste | shock the monkey? | 05:11 |
| firethelazor | hi room | 05:54 |
| firethelazor | would some one help me with a project | 05:55 |
| firethelazor | or is this not the channel for that | 05:55 |
| enigma9o7 | Well this is the channel for ubuntu support. So it would kinda depend what you mean by a project. If that project is something like installing something ubuntu you're having difficulty with or something, sure that would apply. But if the project is collecting honey from bees, then no. | 06:03 |
| ghodawalaaman | enigma9o7: "collecting honey from bees" sound fun | 06:38 |
| ghodawalaaman | 〠🍯_🍯〠 | 06:38 |
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| nwoob | I have some problem in my ubuntu system, can someone help me please | 08:22 |
| enigma9o7 | You'll really have to provide more clues. | 08:32 |
| toddc | !details | nwoob | 08:34 |
| ubottu | nwoob: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel. | 08:34 |
| shadowhawk | hello | 09:00 |
| shadowhawk | is there an off topic ubuntu chat? | 09:00 |
| nwoob | my ubuntu Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS | 09:00 |
| nwoob | randomely gives me black screen for a second | 09:00 |
| enigma9o7 | Yes shadowhawk. | 09:01 |
| enigma9o7 | For example #ubuntu-offtopic | 09:01 |
| nwoob | I don't know how to fix this, please help | 09:01 |
| enigma9o7 | Are you sure you're not blinking? | 09:01 |
| nwoob | kernel is 6.5.0-1024-oem | 09:01 |
| nwoob | i'm sure enigma9o7 | 09:01 |
| shadowhawk | thanks enigma9o7 | 09:02 |
| nwoob | I have thinkpad t14 gen 4 AMD laptop | 09:02 |
| enigma9o7 | Have you considered using that time for an extra long blink? | 09:02 |
| nwoob | no it throws me off guard | 09:03 |
| nwoob | jokes aside, please help | 09:04 |
| enigma9o7 | I wish I could, but no ideas. If you could narrow it down to what causes it, instea dof random. Or maybe find some info in the journal? have you looked at "journalctl" and tried to find wher eit happened? | 09:05 |
| enigma9o7 | maybe next time it happens, note the exact time and check the journal then | 09:06 |
| nwoob | it happened now, check last entries of journal | 09:09 |
| nwoob | https://bpa.st/YX3Q enigma9o7 | 09:09 |
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| shadowhawk | hey | 09:53 |
| shadowhawk | my app store wont load properly | 09:53 |
| shadowhawk | wont show categories | 09:53 |
| shadowhawk | hmm | 09:57 |
| nwoob | shadowhawk: you will not get help here, i'm asking for help from past 3-4 days | 10:07 |
| shadowhawk | gee | 10:07 |
| shadowhawk | geez | 10:07 |
| shadowhawk | im googling now, but i dunno... | 10:07 |
| shadowhawk | maybe ill make a reddit post | 10:07 |
| nwoob | that might help you | 10:09 |
| shadowhawk | looks like i cant apt install new software | 10:10 |
| shadowhawk | repos out of date, me thinks | 10:10 |
| shadowhawk | its become clear that i need to upgrade | 10:11 |
| shadowhawk | but its not letting me | 10:11 |
| nwoob | might be out of date apt cache | 10:11 |
| nwoob | try sudo apt update | 10:12 |
| shadowhawk | i did | 10:12 |
| nwoob | what happens? | 10:12 |
| shadowhawk | I got into Software Updater | 10:12 |
| shadowhawk | going to install the updates | 10:12 |
| shadowhawk | and see how it goes | 10:12 |
| nwoob | ok | 10:12 |
| shadowhawk | failed to download package files | 10:13 |
| shadowhawk | wtf... | 10:13 |
| shadowhawk | i cant even upgrade | 10:13 |
| shadowhawk | without doing a clean install... | 10:13 |
| shadowhawk | i give up for now | 10:14 |
| noobaroo | I already asked in #wayfire and #sway with no luck, I guess no one uses the smaller WMs, this wasn't my first goto but I am using Ubuntu and im getting spammed with notifications from this chat whilst #wayfire and #sway have gotten zero | 10:17 |
| noobaroo | I'm on Ubuntu 24.04 with ZFS file system, just installed a week ago, I'm trying to use Wayfire WM but apps dont open unless they are completely third party (non-gnome) | 10:18 |
| noobaroo | gnome-text-editor wont open, file manager (nautilus) wont open, etc | 10:18 |
| noobaroo | And the things that do open take forever to open and when they do, Im missing minimize/maximize buttons and gnome-terminal is a default theme with blank white background with super small text | 10:19 |
| JanC | did you try launching the applications from a terminal & see if there are any error messages shown there? | 10:21 |
| noobaroo | JanC Looks like it works from the terminal, nautilus opens instantly with a oneliner warning message that is probably there for everyone, and gnome-system-monitor also opens instantly and with zero output | 10:25 |
| noobaroo | What could be the problem here? AFAIK the wf-panel just runs .desktop files right? | 10:25 |
| JanC | maybe it's really bad at that? | 10:26 |
| JanC | I wonder if it tries to use something that isn't there or such, and that has to wait for a time-out... | 10:26 |
| JanC | maybe ask whomever makes wf-panel what it expects/uses | 10:27 |
| noobaroo | Thanks for your help JanC | 10:29 |
| noobaroo | No one has said anything at all to anyone in the #wayfire chat, but a bot just sent me a link https://github.com/WayfireWM/wayfire/wiki/Tips-&-Tricks#gtk3-applications-slow-startup-or-desktop-files-not-opening | 10:30 |
| noobaroo | Very weird how a bot sent me a link half an hour after my question and no one triggered it to | 10:30 |
| noobaroo | But I actually already entered that systemctl command in before I even joined IRC, and it didn't seem to help | 10:31 |
| JanC | they might have triggered it outside the channel | 10:31 |
| JanC | maybe it needs to run at startup to work? | 10:32 |
| JanC | also check the bug they link to, it might also have useful info | 10:33 |
| noobaroo | Maybe :/ I know nothing about xdg-desktop-portal, I was using Wayfire on Kubuntu for about a week with no issues at all, but I had 0 gnome apps installed | 10:34 |
| noobaroo | But I have heard some things online already about how this could be related to xdg-desktop-portal and someone in Arch Linux Forums said that they disabled xdg-desktop-portal-gnome and switched to xdg-desktop-portal-gtk and that fixed it | 10:35 |
| noobaroo | But I have both installed and neither are user-activable, they are both auto, and both are not running they fail | 10:35 |
| noobaroo | I did install xdg-desktop-portal-wlr and its running, but doesn't seem to have any effect | 10:35 |
| nwoob | I get this error when i check journalctl logs https://bpa.st/YX3Q, it makes my display to go black for a second randomly | 10:36 |
| nwoob | can someone tell me why is this happening. | 10:36 |
| JanC | "[drm:link_enc_cfg_validate [amdgpu]] *ERROR* link_enc_cfg_validate: Invalid link encoder assignments - 0x1c" sounds like there might be a graphics driver bug? | 10:52 |
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| babula | whoops, having some problems with ubuntu, it had changed when i was slept (another hacker attack?!)... it says "desktop icons ng is running under x11 wayland". how do i change this? | 11:15 |
| babula | the dark color theme is still on, but some of the window borders etc. have changed to white. | 11:19 |
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| mikols023 | hello | 11:52 |
| tomreyn | babula: where does it say "desktop icons ng is running under x11 wayland"? what's the problem you're seeing, if any? | 12:15 |
| tomreyn | nwoob: which error are you referring to? the log you posted has 29 lines. | 12:16 |
| tomreyn | nwoob: also discuss which hardware (graphics/video chipset) and ubuntu + kernel version you have there. | 12:20 |
| babula | tomreyn: when booting the computer. the os doesn't work as well now. | 12:24 |
| tomreyn | hmm, i think we'll need more info than this. | 12:24 |
| tomreyn | can you describe "the os doesn't work now" in more detail? | 12:25 |
| babula | some functions don't work, like in the file manager crashes when trying to use 'move to' -function. | 12:28 |
| babula | also it's quite slow in things. | 12:29 |
| babula | some hacker attack like i said. | 12:29 |
| tomreyn | probably not. but i haven't read the full story. | 12:32 |
| nwoob | tomreyn: I log i posted has 29 lines but only one error right? | 12:34 |
| nwoob | I have thinkpad t14 gen 4 AMD AMD® Ryzen 7 pro 7840u w/ radeon 780m graphics × 16 | 12:35 |
| nwoob | graphics: GFX1103_R1 (gfx1103_r1, LLVM 15.0.7, DRM 3.54, 6.5.0-1024-oem) | 12:35 |
| nwoob | ubuntu Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS | 12:35 |
| nwoob | kernel 6.5.0-1024-oem | 12:36 |
| nwoob | tomreyn: these are the details | 12:36 |
| nwoob | create a bug in ubuntu launchpad https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/2070096 | 12:36 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2070096 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Graphics driver issue: Display goes black for a second at random" [Undecided, New] | 12:36 | |
| tomreyn | nwoob: was this kernel preinstalled? have you tried without the oem kernel? are you using the the amdgpu driver which came with ubuntu, or did you download and install it from amd.com? | 12:40 |
| nwoob | I have all the drivers installed that came with ubuntu | 12:41 |
| nwoob | kernel might got updated when ubuntu launched updates | 12:42 |
| nwoob | I don't know how to try without oem kernel | 12:42 |
| nwoob | can you guide me | 12:42 |
| jeremy31 | nwoob: There is a known issue with AMD graphics and kernel 5.15.0-112 and likely -115 | 12:43 |
| tomreyn | nwoob: https://gist.github.com/tomreyn/8d7675840d7bc7389b32e4d8887ca449 | 12:43 |
| nwoob | but my kernel is 6.5.0 jeremy31 | 12:43 |
| nwoob | I think this issue came after i installed updated from ubuntu which was specific to T14 | 12:44 |
| nwoob | but i don't know how to find that update and uninstall it | 12:44 |
| tomreyn | nwoob: other than the -oem kernels, which are patched to make as many components of some computer models work out of the box, there are also the more widely used GA and HWE kernel variants, which this article discusses. | 12:45 |
| tomreyn | /var/log/apt/history.log should hint on what was installed / updated when | 12:46 |
| babula | tomreyn: what do you think about that? | 12:48 |
| tomreyn | babula: about what exactly? | 12:51 |
| babula | tomreyn: what i said above. | 12:52 |
| tomreyn | babula: i think that something doesn't work on your computer, for unknown reasons, and that you are likely just jumping to a conclusion of "must have been hacked", which statistically, is not impossible, but rather unlikely. | 12:53 |
| tomreyn | most of the time the person who hacked you is yourself | 12:53 |
| babula | tomreyn: hmm, i have had this hacker problem since 1998 or 1999. | 12:53 |
| tomreyn | sorry to hear this | 12:54 |
| nwoob | tomreyn: I ran the command mentioned in gist you send | 12:59 |
| nwoob | https://bpa.st/ETXQ | 12:59 |
| nwoob | command is there in paste. It reuslts in both generic and hwe. Does that mean I have both stack? | 13:00 |
| nwoob | is there something worng or it is how its supposed to be | 13:00 |
| tomreyn | nwoob: this shows that neither of these kernel images (tracking packages) are installed. | 13:01 |
| tomreyn | if they were, it would say so | 13:01 |
| nwoob | ok | 13:01 |
| nwoob | so is it wrong if none is installed? | 13:02 |
| tomreyn | try installing linux-image-generic-hwe-$(lsb_release -sr) and make sure you select this very package ofrom the "advanced / other" grub menu next time you boot | 13:03 |
| tomreyn | it's not wrong that they aren't installed, you can keep using oem kernels, they are supposed to work fine, too. | 13:03 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 13:07 |
| babula | tomreyn: actually it started already in 1995 or 1996 when I had an Amiga and got an internet connection, had some strange things with it like "flickering" mouse pointer. | 13:07 |
| tomreyn | babula: since this is a support channel, i don't think we can help with this, unfortunately, unless you have technical details. | 13:12 |
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| babula | tomreyn: how do i get the technical details? | 13:56 |
| lolnoob23 | hello | 14:01 |
| tomreyn | babula: that depends on what exactly is malfunctioning, on which system (OS, OS version, hardware, firmware) | 14:02 |
| babula | tomreyn: can you tell a commandline to fetch the information? | 14:12 |
| babula | like i said, gtk is forced to use x11. | 14:12 |
| tomreyn | "gtk is forced to use x11" is not a malfunction. | 14:13 |
| tomreyn | if you don't want gnome-shell to use x11, choose to use wayland on login | 14:13 |
| zitat | i tried to install ubuntu 24.04 server on rpi5, but instead of an installer, i got some sort of cloudinit thing. did i use the wrong image? | 15:11 |
| ravage | https://ubuntu.com/download/raspberry-pi | 15:15 |
| zitat | looks like the "live installer" is cloudinit | 15:20 |
| ravage | there is no live version for the pi | 15:21 |
| ravage | you flash the mahge | 15:21 |
| ravage | *image | 15:21 |
| ravage | see link above | 15:21 |
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| tpaa | Which packages should I recompile to gain significative gains in performance in a zen4 cpu? I would like to use avx2 avx512 and zen4 instruction set advantages to gain performance but I know its not profitable to recompile the entire system. | 16:28 |
| tpaa | I mean, i would like to gain performance in cryptsetup, but i dont think recompiling cryptsetup package itself would do the job, right? | 16:39 |
| babula | tomreyn: hmm, the os didn't say that when logging in earlier, also some things have changed in the os. | 17:21 |
| zitat | if i want to boot into the installer, i need the boot_media/casper/initrd, right? | 17:24 |
| bootissues | Issue: All of a sudden my Ubuntu installation stopped booting normally. It was installed and worked perfectly for a while and now after a reboot it doesn't: all I get is black screen that is lit but is black. Symptoms: grub menu still appears, I can use it. Plymouth animation screen never appears now, it blanks immediately after grub. If I set | 17:52 |
| bootissues | "nomodeset" in grub I see boot proceeding and boot log displayed on the screen, however it stalls later without entering graphical interface. I can even use ctrl+alt+del to reboot it then, so it's not freezing, it just can't start a graphical session. It even says gdm service has started. I'm using AMD GPU. | 17:52 |
| zitat | can i somehow start the installer from an installed, running system? | 17:54 |
| lotuspsychje | zitat: what do you want that for exactly? | 18:15 |
| zitat | lotuspsychje, for making a custom install of ubuntu server on rpi5. i don't want to use a premade image | 18:17 |
| rbox | because there is going to be a difference? | 18:17 |
| zitat | rbox, exactly | 18:18 |
| rbox | lol | 18:19 |
| babula | tomreyn: can you reply? | 18:23 |
| lotuspsychje | !patience | babula | 18:27 |
| ubottu | babula: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or https://ubuntuforums.org or https://askubuntu.com/ | 18:27 |
| enigma9o7 | babula, if you want to login to wayland session, after you enter your username before you enter your password, click the gear icon near the bottom right of gdm3 screen. | 18:33 |
| enigma9o7 | If there is something else you want help with, be specific about it. | 18:34 |
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| babula | enigma9o7: hmm ok, why does the os have changed to i need to change it? | 19:34 |
| oerheks | maybe you installed nvidia drivers ? from some source? | 19:38 |
| enigma9o7 | babula, i don't understand the question. I don't know what has changed on your system, I was just telling you how to login to a wayland session, if that's what you want to do. | 20:06 |
| ruser | how do i relete journalctl entries that are timestemmped into the future? | 20:06 |
| ruser | s/relete/delete | 20:06 |
| ruser | e.g. 2060 | 20:06 |
| ruser | Alternatively, how do i delete journalctl entries for a specific boot in the future ( RTC clock was set wrong and showed year 2060) | 20:10 |
| ruser | can i just clear out /var/log/journal/ | 20:11 |
| oerheks | journalctl --vacuum-time=1s | 20:11 |
| ruser | oerheks: that keeps anything into the future and removes old ones | 20:11 |
| oerheks | journalctl --rotate | 20:11 |
| oerheks | well, then set bios in the future, disconnect internet cable to avoid timesync | 20:11 |
| ruser | okay, fair | 20:12 |
| ruser | that might be a doable solution :) | 20:12 |
| oerheks | 2061 i guess | 20:12 |
| oerheks | but that would create logentries too.. | 20:12 |
| ruser | ha | 20:13 |
| oerheks | .. /var/log/journal/ You can delete them, and reboot. | 20:14 |
| ruser | oerheks: okay, so removing /var/log/journal was the right more | 20:17 |
| ruser | well, in my case i renamed the machine id | 20:17 |
| ruser | oerheks: thanks for the help | 20:19 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 20:19 |
| Bombo | is there a tool for linux that does animates subtitles like this: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7F5WUjrK-rs | 20:30 |
| bparker | did you try a search engine first | 20:32 |
| bparker | also I wish people would stop animating subtitles. It makes them less accessible, which is the purpose of subtitles. It just makes them harder to read. | 20:32 |
| enigma9o7 | They appear embedded? | 20:33 |
| enigma9o7 | If so that would also make them harder to turn off. | 20:33 |
| enigma9o7 | What video editor do you use now, Bombo? | 20:33 |
| enigma9o7 | Assuming you're attempting to embed them. | 20:34 |
| enigma9o7 | Or do you mean you want to play back videos with animated subtitles? | 20:34 |
| oerheks | openshot comes in mind | 20:35 |
| bparker | there are no good open source video editors IMO | 20:37 |
| bparker | especially for professional users, not even close | 20:37 |
| enigma9o7 | openshot and kdenlive work for non professionals | 20:37 |
| bparker | kden crashes all the time for me, it's completely unusable | 20:37 |
| enigma9o7 | I guess for professional you might consider divinci resolve. | 20:37 |
| bparker | always has been | 20:38 |
| bparker | even the latest | 20:38 |
| bparker | especially when trying to do subtitles | 20:38 |
| enigma9o7 | perhaps submit a bug report | 20:38 |
| bparker | I'm only interested in software that already works | 20:38 |
| enigma9o7 | Your contribution is surely missed. | 20:38 |
| oerheks | one should let the player handle subtitles. but openshot surely can do funny stuff | 20:41 |
| oerheks | also bombo asked in multiple channels, they have better ideas | 20:42 |
| oerheks | 🤪 | 20:42 |
| Bombo | i just found these web based subtitle sites, where one could upload their video etc, but... | 20:43 |
| Bombo | yes i use openshot (kdenlive tried that too) | 20:44 |
| bparker | enigma9o7: I spend enough time preparing and filing Qt bug reports every other day... at some point you get tired of it and just want to use software that works. | 20:44 |
| bparker | people are always quick to criticize when it's not happening to them | 20:45 |
| enigma9o7 | Ah, well your contribution is surely appreciated. | 20:45 |
| Bombo | would be cool if it woould work with ffmpeg too, provide a .srt then add animations for the tiktok kids ;) | 20:45 |
| bparker | tiktokers use open source? | 20:45 |
| bparker | doubt | 20:45 |
| Bombo | no but they view videos with animated subs | 20:46 |
| babula | enigma9o7: i get that error message, the os is slowing doown, also some programs don't work well. | 20:53 |
| enigma9o7 | Can only deal with one problem at a time. If you're retrying to debug an error message, provide details - what's the message, how do you generate it, what have you tried already, etc. | 20:54 |
| enigma9o7 | As to the other issues, ask about them seperately. What does "OS slowing doown" even mean, need to be specific. Some programs don't work well? That's useless, what program, and what specificially isn't working, etc. If you want help, need to be specific. | 20:55 |
| babula | lotuspsychje1: why do people reply so slow in here? | 20:56 |
| oerheks | babula, why are you responding so slow? and what error message? must have been hours ago | 20:58 |
| oerheks | >> maybe you installed nvidia drivers ? from some source? | 20:58 |
| gordonjcp | enigma9o7: openshot isn't a very good video editor, because it doesn't appear to have a way to actually edit video | 21:05 |
| gordonjcp | enigma9o7: kdenlive is a horrible clunky mess that lacks some pretty basic functionality | 21:06 |
| babula | oerheks: ah, you have excellent people here! | 21:11 |
| babula | oerheks: https://bpa.st/VIPA | 21:15 |
| babula | i don't want to copypaste every line, there aren't many of them but i'm not in the condition to do so. | 21:17 |
| babula | oerheks: ^ | 21:17 |
| enigma9o7 | it appears to me you did copypaste every line for this channel for the past few pages. | 21:18 |
| oerheks | something weird, simular, thinkpad 16 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-oem-6.5/+bug/2070094 | 21:19 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2070094 in linux-oem-6.5 (Ubuntu) "Thunderbolt video broken after Kernel 6-5-0-1024-oem update" [Undecided, New] | 21:19 | |
| babula | oerheks: yes i did, you seemed too wacked to scroll up. | 21:20 |
| oerheks | not sure how you got the -oem kernel.. | 21:20 |
| babula | oerheks: i have these hacker problems, i don't have a working firewall. | 21:29 |
| babula | kernel editing seems to be in fashion again! | 21:29 |
| babula | sometimes happens | 21:29 |
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