| ActionParsnip | Oh and can anyone here clean up the spam on answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu at all, please? | 00:04 |
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| oerheks | thanks.. | 00:06 |
| iconoclasthero | any idea where to find this missing dep? ../meson.build:102:17: ERROR: Dependency "webkit2gtk-4.0" not found, tried pkgconfig and cmake | 00:22 |
| oerheks | for what ubuntu version? | 00:23 |
| oerheks | 4.0 is kinda old, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit2gtk | 00:24 |
| iconoclasthero | noble. | 00:26 |
| iconoclasthero | it's what is being used in the current version of gnome web. | 00:27 |
| oerheks | what are you building? | 00:27 |
| iconoclasthero | like is there a .deb i can download or do i have to build it. | 00:27 |
| iconoclasthero | ostensibly gnome web. | 00:27 |
| iconoclasthero | but i just want to build the search-provider. | 00:27 |
| iconoclasthero | /usr/libexec/epiphany-search-provider | 00:29 |
| iconoclasthero | i set out to create one for chrome. | 00:29 |
| iconoclasthero | then i saw that. | 00:29 |
| iconoclasthero | so i just want to recomplie it to have it do everything but when it comes up with a url it opens chrome instead. | 00:29 |
| oerheks | i have no idea .. | 00:30 |
| iconoclasthero | i almost assuredly don't need that webkit but i don't know how to strip out the build file to just make the search provider. | 00:30 |
| vortexx | iconoclasthero: apt install libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev will probably solve your missing file issue | 00:30 |
| iconoclasthero | s/most assuredly/possibly | 00:30 |
| oerheks | libwebkit2gtk-4.0-dev is in jammy solely | 00:31 |
| oerheks | not noble | 00:31 |
| oerheks | 4.4 | 00:31 |
| iconoclasthero | ok, i've never actually "backported" something with apt. will that get me out of this problem...just to get the library to build against? | 00:32 |
| Diagon | 24.04 graphic help? https://termbin.com/ta0w | 00:44 |
| Diagon | Dual intel/nvidia (i915/nouveau?), no way in BIOS to select either GPU. | 00:44 |
| Diagon | Running X, not sure which GPU is being used. Interminable Bootup, similar login. | 00:44 |
| oerheks | that owuld need the ancient 340 driver = nouveau | 00:46 |
| Diagon | apparently it's the 390 proprietary driver, but I'd be happy with nouveau | 00:47 |
| oerheks | i hardly find any difference | 00:47 |
| oerheks | youtube 30fps, so .. | 00:47 |
| Diagon | I don't have a proprietary driver installed. I'm not sure if nouveau is being used. | 00:48 |
| Diagon | details at that link. | 00:48 |
| oerheks | ubuntu-drivers autoinstall | 00:48 |
| oerheks | if it does not match, you know | 00:49 |
| Diagon | the drivers are already installed | 00:49 |
| === VIAblet is now known as V1A | ||
| ubuntu-studio | Help | 01:14 |
| ubuntu-studio | ? | 01:15 |
| oerheks | hi ubuntu-studio , there is #ubuntu-studio too.. | 01:17 |
| oerheks | but be patient, weekend hours | 01:17 |
| ubuntu-studio | can they help me? thanks | 01:19 |
| ubuntu-studio | ah thanks | 01:20 |
| ubuntu-studio | Just got here through LiveUSB. I have deleted partition (Ubuntu/studio) from Linux Mint and after that run command (sudo grub update) and then restart, I lost grub options where I want to boot mint. Help? | 01:20 |
| oerheks | no mint help | 01:21 |
| oerheks | see topic, seek their support | 01:21 |
| ubuntu-studio | k thanks!] | 01:21 |
| oerheks | * just boot usb and use full disk | 01:22 |
| ubuntu-studio | I/*--+ | 01:25 |
| ubuntu-studio | I,ll wait thanks | 01:25 |
| oerheks | no updates available.. why? | 02:15 |
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| === remy_ is now known as remy | ||
| Root-Atlas | hello? | 05:00 |
| Bashing-om | Root-Atlas: You have a Ubuntu question ? | 05:01 |
| ghodawalaaman | What is Ubuntu? | 06:22 |
| ghodawalaaman | is it some kind of food? | 06:22 |
| enigma9o7 | Nope ghodawalaaman it is a Swahili word used in South Africa for "a quality that includes the essential human virtues; compassion and humanity." | 06:25 |
| enigma9o7 | It is also the name of an operating system started by some south african guy. | 06:25 |
| enigma9o7 | Who obviously liked the word and ideas it encompasses. | 06:26 |
| ghodawalaaman | interesting | 06:27 |
| ghodawalaaman | isn't Ubuntu means "a big lizard"? enigma9o7 | 06:27 |
| enigma9o7 | Nope, it really means humanity towards others. | 06:28 |
| enigma9o7 | the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity | 06:28 |
| ghodawalaaman | The word "Ubuntu" is a term from the Nguni Bantu languages of Southern Africa (including Zulu and Xhosa). It is often translated as "I am because we are" or "humanity towards others." Ubuntu represents the idea that humans are interconnected and that our well-being is deeply tied to the well-being of others in our community. It emphasizes values | 06:32 |
| ghodawalaaman | such as compassion, respect, and communalism, highlighting the importance of relationships and mutual care. | 06:32 |
| ghodawalaaman | enigma9o7: yup you are right | 06:32 |
| enigma9o7 | well, i said swahili, when it appears to be zulu/xhosa | 06:36 |
| enigma9o7 | which actually makes more sense for safa | 06:36 |
| enigma9o7 | Now that we've got all that established tho, this channel is really about the operating system. | 06:37 |
| ghodawalaaman | lol | 06:37 |
| ghodawalaaman | yeah | 06:37 |
| TomyWork | I tried telling grub to boot with the previous kernel version (6.5.0-35) by default (my dock doesn't work with -41) using 'GRUB_DEFAULT="Ubuntu, with Linux 6.5.0-35-generic"'. didn't work, I'm on -41 again, unless I manually select the older kernel :/ | 07:04 |
| TomyWork | (this is the bug I'm trying to work around btw: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-hwe-6.5/+bug/2070020 ) | 07:07 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2070020 in linux-oem-6.5 (Ubuntu) "Lenovo dock no longer working after upgrade from 6.5.0-35 to 6.5.0-41" [Undecided, Confirmed] | 07:07 | |
| EnlGmA | check my pic on https://8abe6d5dac507009440c84b7c031c46a.serveo.net | 07:08 |
| TomyWork | how about no | 07:09 |
| EnlGmA | ok | 07:13 |
| enigma9o7 | the globe maxes out 2 cpu cores | 07:14 |
| parrot_ | check my pic on https://8abe6d5dac507009440c84b7c031c46a.serveo.net | 07:14 |
| enigma9o7 | You guys look similar. | 07:15 |
| TomyWork | it's spam | 07:15 |
| TomyWork | thanks for making me aware of serveo.net btw. I have a friend who currently rents a cheap VPS to achieve the same and the free versino of serveo might save him that money :) | 07:16 |
| witch | i can see issue with it. such provider's server might be already blocked from accessing many services | 07:19 |
| N4T4N | HI | 07:28 |
| N4T4N | ALO | 07:29 |
| N4T4N | ALO | 07:29 |
| TomyWork | witch, what do you mean "accessing"? | 07:56 |
| TomyWork | it's a reverse proxy, not a regular one | 07:56 |
| TomyWork | brb, rebooting to downgrade kernel | 07:57 |
| === LarsErik1 is now known as LarsErikP | ||
| TomyWork | how do I blacklist a kernel version? "apt remove linux-image-6.5.0-41-generic" triggers removal of linux-generic-hwe-22.04 and linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04 in addition to linux-image-6.5.0-41-generic, which is not what I want, obviously :) | 08:57 |
| sixwheeledbeast | blacklist? You could stop apt installing it. You could tell bootloader to load a different version. Generally you would only "blacklist" a kernel module due to an incompatibility. What is the issue you are trying to workaround. | 09:03 |
| === LarsErik1 is now known as LarsErikP | ||
| sixwheeledbeast | oic, well I suppose you didn't correctly change grub | 09:06 |
| TomyWork | sixwheeledbeast, too late for that and those two linux-generic-hwe packages dont offer a downgrade except to a 5.x | 09:07 |
| sixwheeledbeast | manually install the kernel version that works, then tell grub to use it | 09:08 |
| TomyWork | did that, didnt work | 09:08 |
| TomyWork | I set GRUB_DEFAULT to the name of the kernel | 09:08 |
| TomyWork | I have 'GRUB_DEFAULT="Ubuntu, with Linux 6.5.0-35-generic"' in /etc/default/grub.d/pin-6.5.0-35.cfg | 09:09 |
| sixwheeledbeast | didn't work isn't verbose enough. What didn't work. Did the older kernel version load or is it still -41 | 09:10 |
| TomyWork | and "grep 6.5.0-35 /boot/grub/grub.cfg" shows 'set default="Ubuntu, with Linux 6.5.0-35-generic"' and 'if [ "x$default" = 'Ubuntu, with Linux 6.5.0-35-generic' ]; then default='Advanced options for Ubuntu>Ubuntu, with Linux 6.5.0-35-generic'; fi;' | 09:10 |
| TomyWork | but grub still selects -41 by default | 09:10 |
| TomyWork | well... I guess it's grub | 09:10 |
| sixwheeledbeast | is -35 available on the system | 09:11 |
| TomyWork | could it be UEFI? | 09:11 |
| TomyWork | sixwheeledbeast, yes | 09:11 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you updated grub after? | 09:12 |
| TomyWork | yes, like i said it even shows up in /boot/grub/grub.cfg | 09:13 |
| TomyWork | oh this is buggy | 09:13 |
| TomyWork | you see "if [ "x$default" = 'Ubuntu, with Linux 6.5.0-35-generic' ]"? | 09:13 |
| TomyWork | it's missing an x | 09:13 |
| TomyWork | should be "if [ "x$default" = 'xUbuntu, with Linux 6.5.0-35-generic' ]" | 09:14 |
| TomyWork | I'll just set that manually for now and look for/write a bug report later | 09:15 |
| TomyWork | rebooting | 09:18 |
| sixwheeledbeast | never looked in that file to edit it... I am surprised x-hack is used. It's probably something else. | 09:21 |
| TomyWork | it worked | 09:21 |
| ogra_ | TomyWork, you are right, this is buggy, but your fix should hav the x outside of the quotes i guess ... | 09:22 |
| TomyWork | ogra_, doesn't matter | 09:27 |
| TomyWork | well, in a posix-compatible shell it doesn't matter. grub.cfg is "shell-like" according to google, so your suggestion might also not work. mine works either way | 09:29 |
| younder | Who uses a posix compatible shell anyhow. Dec Vt220 seems the de-facto standard for terminal emulators | 09:33 |
| TomyWork | younder, troll elsewhere | 09:33 |
| younder | ? | 09:34 |
| TomyWork | sorry, thought you were just throwing terms around to troll | 09:34 |
| TomyWork | vt220 is a terminal, not a shell. two distinct components that might communicated but arent interchangeable | 09:35 |
| TomyWork | communicate* | 09:35 |
| TomyWork | https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Shell_002dlike-scripting.html#Quoting doesn't say whether chaining literals like that is possible or not, so I'll stick with putting it in one literal :) | 09:36 |
| younder | sorr, brain fart, sh is the closes to a posix shell - it runs dash. Which is fast. Bash is in input logic shell and is powerful. | 09:38 |
| TomyWork | none of that matters here though and sh isn't universally dash | 10:03 |
| TomyWork | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/2070250 done writing my bug report btw | 10:04 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2070250 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "update-grub fails to set submenu item as default by name" [Undecided, New] | 10:04 | |
| TomyWork | https://git.savannah.gnu.org/gitweb/?p=grub.git;a=blob;f=util/grub.d/10_linux.in;h=cc393be7eda9ab79cd0207434924c06fbd27bb6d;hb=HEAD#l104 it's an upstream bug, yay | 10:18 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:37 |
| frib | I have a bluetooth chip 8087:07da in my laptop. I'm on ubuntu 22. The chip is not detected in settings. How can I install drivers for it? | 11:39 |
| j_w_t | @frib The drivers are already int he kernel... https://linux-hardware.org/?id=usb:8087-07da | 11:48 |
| halloy8792 | Goddag | 11:56 |
| === Guest2918 is now known as ghodawalaaman | ||
| FKAShinobi | Is there any way to view swf files on 22.04? | 12:35 |
| ioria | FKAShinobi, have you tried flasharch (as snap) ? | 12:47 |
| FKAShinobi | ioria: I disabled the snap store. I'll take a look | 12:48 |
| ioria | FKAShinobi, 'snap find swf' | 12:48 |
| FKAShinobi | iora: I entered: sudo snap install flasharch and it installed. It doesn't seem to work though. Do I need to do anything for dependencies or something? It partially works in VNC, so I know the files are completely corrupted. | 12:59 |
| FKAShinobi | By not work, I mean it doesn't decode. | 13:00 |
| ioria | FKAShinobi, sy, i don't use it; try with another file | 13:00 |
| user1 | hello | 14:38 |
| deadmorozz | hi | 14:41 |
| Guest1235 | using add-apt-repository to add a ppa repo, apt-get update is blowing up on me complaining about a weak algorithm used to sign the packages. how do I tell it I want this repo and its packages anyway? | 14:59 |
| lotuspsychje | Guest1235: can you pastebin what you see for errors, so the volunteers can take a look for you? | 15:02 |
| lotuspsychje | !paste | 15:02 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 15:02 |
| Guest1235 | in case that paste request was intended for me: | 15:05 |
| Guest1235 | https://gist.github.com/hesco/a96951db948b2852db0d01a9bbdc0e87 | 15:05 |
| Guest1235 | thank you, lotuspsychje. I see now that that request was intended for me. | 15:07 |
| lotuspsychje | Guest1235: seems like your rmescandon ppa gives a 404 error | 15:09 |
| lotuspsychje | Guest1235: The repository 'https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/rmescandon/yq/ubuntu noble Release' does not have a Release file. | 15:09 |
| lotuspsychje | Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. | 15:09 |
| lotuspsychje | Guest1235: usualy the volunteers will advice to use packages from the ubuntu vanilla repos, and cant advice much on external ppa's | 15:10 |
| lotuspsychje | Guest1235: maybe if you share what your end goal is, volunteers can thing along with you and advice better solutions | 15:11 |
| Guest1235 | thanks for your time on this. This error is showing up when my puppet manifest is run. Its part of an Exec[] resource in a home-spun puppet class called utilities::yq. | 15:16 |
| Guest1235 | As I recall, there are two implementations of yq, and I had quite a challenge sorting out the syntax for yq's use until I settled on this version for my deployments. | 15:18 |
| Guest1235 | This is what it looks like when run with puppet: | 15:24 |
| Guest1235 | https://gist.github.com/hesco/a96951db948b2852db0d01a9bbdc0e87#file-00120-puppet-output | 15:24 |
| oerheks | https needs apt-transport-https | 15:37 |
| oerheks | !info apt-transport-https | 15:38 |
| ubottu | apt-transport-https (2.7.14build2, noble): transitional package for https support. In component universe, is optional. Built by apt. Size 4 kB / 35 kB | 15:38 |
| Guest1235 | pretty sure apt-transport-https is installed in my base image before I launch the container, at any rate it is there my the end of the build, before I test the `apt-get update` from the cli. | 16:10 |
| oerheks | always check if the ppa has candidates for noble https://launchpad.net/~rmescandon/+archive/ubuntu/yq | 16:15 |
| oerheks | this one not | 16:15 |
| oerheks | for ondrej, re-add that ppa? | 16:18 |
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| === TheCaptain8980 is now known as TheCaptain898 | ||
| atreo | people, did you realise that the text editor gedit in ubuntu 24.04 doesn't undo correctly, when you undo, especially large text, it fuses it with the precious one haha then redo and undo does it only half way haha | 16:51 |
| pragmaticenigma | didn't know anyone still used gedit | 16:54 |
| atreo | pragmaticenigma: what do you use for text editing? | 16:58 |
| kut | gedit? | 16:58 |
| atreo | pragmaticenigma: kut gnome-text-editor | 16:59 |
| kut | i use nano or mousepad | 17:00 |
| kut | but familiar with gedit. i put a question mark since you had just said gedit | 17:00 |
| atreo | its the default text editor in ubuntu | 17:00 |
| kut | i'm using xfce4 so it's mousepad on this environment | 17:02 |
| kut | i dont like the min/max/close buttons on the left like gnome does, reminds me of macs | 17:02 |
| pragmaticenigma | kut: that's a long time ago | 17:03 |
| kut | so i'm old | 17:04 |
| kut | maybe i just like mice and rats | 17:04 |
| pragmaticenigma | What I'm saying is the window controls haven't been left side for quite a while | 17:04 |
| sixwheeledbeast | left side best side | 17:04 |
| oerheks | not helpfull | 17:05 |
| kut | not at all | 17:05 |
| kut | i dont need convincing | 17:05 |
| pragmaticenigma | atreo: I use what ever the default text editor is in Ubuntu or any other distro. gedit went away a long time ago, the default for the latest version of Ubuntu is Gnome Text Editor, which is not gedit | 17:07 |
| atreo | ok | 17:07 |
| kut | gnome-disk is my fav app | 17:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | typically only use it for reading a text file. if I'm working on programming code I use an IDE, and if I'm composing a document I use LibreWrite or similar word processor | 17:09 |
| bondking | The snap version of firefox is somewhat broken | 17:09 |
| kut | how so | 17:10 |
| bondking | is it possible to install the extended support version of firefox without adding a ppa? | 17:10 |
| bondking | kut it doesn't support smart card certificates, for example | 17:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | bondking: wouldn't recommend it... firefox is updated, even the ESR, way too frequently to not be using something that regularly checks for updates | 17:10 |
| oerheks | bondking, known issue, this ppa is a bit behind.. https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=noble | 17:12 |
| sixwheeledbeast | there is a repo as well as the ppa | 17:12 |
| bondking | ok, understood. do these seem like the correct terms to acomplish this? https://bpa.st/GKCA | 17:13 |
| bondking | I'd prefer to do it in the most straightforward way possible. I have bad luck when it comes to PPAs | 17:13 |
| oerheks | one could add some mozilla source, https://news.itsfoss.com/mozilla-firefox-deb/ | 17:14 |
| xangua | mozilla has it's own deb repository now | 17:14 |
| oerheks | good luck | 17:14 |
| xangua | or you can just download firefox esr from it's site bondking | 17:14 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I switched to librewolf anyway and solved most issues | 17:15 |
| oerheks | just installing that package does not give updates | 17:15 |
| oerheks | sixwheeledbeast, also with smart card certificates ?? | 17:15 |
| kut | what happened to iceweasel or ice wolf | 17:15 |
| pragmaticenigma | iceweasel became icecat | 17:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | and is still releasing udpates | 17:16 |
| kut | oh shit i love catssssss | 17:16 |
| bondking | oerheks: the .deb or the ppa? | 17:16 |
| kut | lol my kb | 17:16 |
| oerheks | the .deb | 17:16 |
| kut | is there an off topic channel | 17:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | icewolf I think became librewolf | 17:16 |
| bondking | oh, I see. so the PPA will allow me to get updates and the .deb will just give me *that* version | 17:17 |
| oerheks | jups | 17:17 |
| pragmaticenigma | kut: #ubuntu-offtopic | 17:17 |
| oerheks | !discuss | 17:17 |
| ubottu | Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 17:17 |
| kut | why not in the topic | 17:17 |
| kut | already too long? | 17:17 |
| bparker | it says 'Support Channel' | 17:17 |
| bparker | not off-topic channel :) | 17:18 |
| sixwheeledbeast | just general issues with ff bloat and default settings, no idea about card certs | 17:18 |
| kut | so i should go to xubuntu instead? | 17:18 |
| sixwheeledbeast | AIUI you can use firefox itself to update if you just download the website version, but I'm not sure if it's automatic. | 17:19 |
| oerheks | huh? | 17:20 |
| oerheks | lolz | 17:20 |
| bondking | gotta level with you, I'm not loving snaps | 17:20 |
| oerheks | no, firefox (deb) does not update itself. | 17:21 |
| === deltreey8 is now known as deltreey | ||
| petrj | hey canonical folks, any eta on publishing linux/riscv64 image to docker hub? https://github.com/docker-library/official-images/pull/16978#issuecomment-2187003376 | 17:25 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Pull 16978 in docker-library/official-images "Update Debian" [Merged] | 17:25 | |
| pragmaticenigma | petrj: This is a support channel... for development concerns stick to the forum for that specific feature or item | 17:26 |
| petrj | pragmaticenigma: not even #ubuntu-next? | 17:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | petrj: Also, this is a community run channels. There are people here present from Canonical in these channels, but they do not monitor for development issues and concerns. | 17:28 |
| petrj | copy, will raise on forum/ML | 17:28 |
| bondking | thanks for the help guys. After getting rid of the useless snap and installing the PPA my card works! :) | 17:32 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 17:33 |
| petrj | https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2498704&p=14194938 (first time for everthing ig :D) | 17:38 |
| petrj | pragmaticenigma: thanks for the pointers | 17:38 |
| bondking | Its strange, though. So, I clicked 'Uninstall' in the App Center but the old Firefox app and icon still seem to be here. I click it and the browser still opens :/ | 17:40 |
| pragmaticenigma | Snaps are, unfortunately, funny that way | 17:40 |
| bondking | not cool snap | 17:42 |
| oerheks | logout login | 17:43 |
| kut | how do i get apps to open up when i unlock the screen? i have them on login but i dont log out and in again, i just lock the screen and come back the next day. didn't see that as an option on the dropdowns | 17:44 |
| bondking | oerheks: but I'd have to leave IRC! | 17:44 |
| oerheks | oh dear | 17:45 |
| bondking | ok here goes. pray for me bros. and, if i don't return, warn others about the dangers of snaps | 17:46 |
| bondking | its still there :( | 17:49 |
| arex | hola | 17:54 |
| arex | hey | 17:55 |
| pragmaticenigma | kut: locking the screen should not be closing apps. they should all remain active when you enter your password to resume your work | 18:01 |
| kut | it doesn't close the apps but I may as I'm working. I would like it to act like I logged on again when I unlock to restart those apps | 18:05 |
| pragmaticenigma | kut: what you're asking doesn't make any sense | 18:06 |
| kut | when I unlock I would like the apps I have set to start on login to start again, meaning if they were closed, they would reopen | 18:07 |
| kut | if I log off that ends some apps so I just want to resume as if I had logged in again | 18:07 |
| pragmaticenigma | bondking: the Firefox snap is deeply buried into the system. My guess is to avoid someone randomly uninstalling it and then having absolutely no web browser on the system. There might be the benefit of rebooting, which would force the unmounting of the virtualized disk that snaps use to run from. Otherwise I think any further steps are beyond the help to be given, without making your machine un-supportable. | 18:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | kut: that isn't possible. the "locking" of the desktop is a completely different thing from the "login" part | 18:09 |
| oerheks | one must write a script to do so | 18:09 |
| bondking | I did reboot after uninstalling but it was still there | 18:09 |
| kut | ok, so a script, gotcha. is there a way to run it automatically on unlock? | 18:09 |
| oerheks | just close apps on lock.? | 18:10 |
| kut | I do sometimes but dont want to log off | 18:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | kut: No, I don't know what the suggestion is going on about. There is no way to attach or hook to the desktop locking. | 18:10 |
| enigma9o7 | All things are possible. | 18:11 |
| enigma9o7 | you could probably use dbus-monitor | 18:12 |
| pragmaticenigma | how does that help? | 18:13 |
| enigma9o7 | I'd have to figure it out, but it would be a way to attch/hook the desktop locking (or unlocking). | 18:13 |
| enigma9o7 | something like dbus-monitor --session "type='signal',interface='org.gnome.ScreenSaver'" | 18:14 |
| enigma9o7 | or better to listen to LockedHint maybe | 18:14 |
| enigma9o7 | anyway it is possible somehow, you stated there's no way, there will be a way | 18:14 |
| enigma9o7 | there's always a way | 18:14 |
| pragmaticenigma | enigma9o7: sure, but in the scope of what's readily available and not knowing the skill level of the person asking for assistance and the that unless you're prepared to support that person from the very beginning to the very end... be my guest. What you described sounds like it's going to take awhile | 18:16 |
| kut | how many tacos would it take for you to spend time to figure it out | 18:16 |
| enigma9o7 | oh sure, but the point is its not impossible | 18:16 |
| pragmaticenigma | kut: it would be faster for you to adjust your workflow, than to figure out how to make some scripting to work and stable enough not to cause other issues. | 18:17 |
| enigma9o7 | but that's not nearly as much fun of course | 18:17 |
| kut | what workflow, launching apps manually when i unlock? | 18:17 |
| pragmaticenigma | kut: consider a growht opportunity to research that on your own. This is a support channel, focused on supporting what is readily avaiable on your system as it is provided from the official Ubuntu sources. What you are asking for is beyond the scope of support, since it is for something that does not exist in your system. It is an exercise for you as the user to go out and explorer and develop your own solution, and understand that such | 18:23 |
| pragmaticenigma | a solution is unlikely to be supported here. The biggest issue with just giving you a solution, is that you will not learn anything about how it was done, and more than likely, will not be invested enough to know how to undo the thing and the person that does no, may not longer be a part of this forum at that time. | 18:23 |
| kut | it's beyond the scope so I'm asking for an alternative if there's one | 18:24 |
| kut | but you say it's not possible so | 18:25 |
| pragmaticenigma | there is no built-in option or package to be installed to provide such functionality at this time. If building your own is beyond your abilities, you can try putting a feature request in the bug ticketing system on launchpad. | 18:26 |
| kut | ok thanks | 18:26 |
| oerheks | put your question on askubuntu | 18:26 |
| kut | site or channel? | 18:27 |
| pragmaticenigma | niether, I really don't know what is up with those quips... askubuntu has the same rules as this channel. | 18:29 |
| kut | ok | 18:29 |
| oerheks | site | 18:31 |
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| spinningCat | hey why there is 13gb cache here https://ibb.co/JjsGqmv | 20:11 |
| spinningCat | should I clean that?, | 20:11 |
| enigma9o7 | In memory? | 20:12 |
| enigma9o7 | Every time you reboot it "cleans" that. | 20:12 |
| spinningCat | yeah | 20:12 |
| enigma9o7 | But unused memory is used to cache stuff to speed things up, so you want it full, not empty. | 20:12 |
| spinningCat | so my memory is fully occupied now? | 20:12 |
| enigma9o7 | Yes, none wasted it appears. Good job. | 20:13 |
| spinningCat | i have swap used too actually | 20:16 |
| spinningCat | interesting that gave me performance problems sometimes os just froze few time and It didnt respond | 20:17 |
| enigma9o7 | Yeah, well you could clear that manually if you really wanted, and it'd save you time later going back to those swapped things, but then you wouldn't have so much free memory for new apps, so better just to let the OS handle it and swap it back when you use it. | 20:17 |
| spinningCat | So there is a transfer between swap and memory. If It is necessary os just empty memory and occupy swap right? | 20:18 |
| enigma9o7 | yeah, if something needs real memory, and you dont have the free space, it'll move something to swap | 20:19 |
| spinningCat | so when app is closed and memory is freed. It gets back what it is moved? | 20:20 |
| enigma9o7 | nah, it doesnt automatically move stuff from swap back to regular memory until you try to use it | 20:20 |
| spinningCat | ah okay | 20:20 |
| spinningCat | if it is active It gets back | 20:20 |
| spinningCat | I understoodit seems there is nothing to worry about | 20:21 |
| pragmaticenigma | pretty much | 20:22 |
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| bondking | how is one supposed to get libraries for python 3 with Ubuntu 24.04? | 22:09 |
| bondking | sorry, python 2 | 22:09 |
| oerheks | python2 is EOL.. | 22:13 |
| oerheks | do not use deadsnakes ppa, if you run into issues, reinstall, no support | 22:14 |
| oerheks | oh, no 2,7, pewww https://launchpad.net/~deadsnakes/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=noble | 22:15 |
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| oerheks | :-) | 22:47 |
| vlt | bondking: Yes, Python 2 is EOL, so, please, you have to know exactly what you’re doing. But pyenv works very well if you need an isolated installation of a specific Python version. Create a venv and pip install away :D | 22:48 |
| oerheks | vm.. | 22:49 |
| oerheks | dump 2.7 | 22:49 |
| tomreyn | chances are generative AI can nowadays automatically rewrite python 2 code for python 3 (but hopefully someone with a clue will review the results) | 22:52 |
| oerheks | wait for python4 | 22:52 |
| oerheks | only-ai generated | 22:53 |
| oerheks | oops, offtopic | 22:53 |
| bondking | vlt: I tried pyenv but I keep getting the error about python being externally managed and how I should install through the repos (i.e. python#-lib) but of course Ubuntu has abandoned python2 | 23:15 |
| babula | hmm, having some problems installing with pip! | 23:19 |
| babula | https://bpa.st/XTMQ | 23:20 |
| babula | "error: externally-managed-environment" | 23:20 |
| oerheks | try pip3 ? | 23:21 |
| enigma9o7 | oh yikes don't use sudo pip to install stuff | 23:21 |
| oerheks | and pip is risky, reinstall if you run into problems | 23:21 |
| enigma9o7 | even if you choose to --break-system-packages don't do it with sudo. | 23:21 |
| oerheks | trust the package maintainer | 23:22 |
| enigma9o7 | if you just do it as yourself, it won't actually break system packages for the whole systme, just mess stuff up for yourself | 23:22 |
| enigma9o7 | but what you should really do is "sudo apt install python3-subliminal" | 23:22 |
| oerheks | . Subliminal is a python 2.7+ library .. drop it | 23:23 |
| enigma9o7 | python3-subliminal is certainly for the python3 version packaged in ubuntu, oerhawks. | 23:24 |
| tomreyn | while it's probably not relevant so far, please also point it out when you're using a non ubuntu kernel, as you seem to be doing. | 23:25 |
| oerheks | oh oke | 23:25 |
| oerheks | maybe not even ubuntu | 23:26 |
| enigma9o7 | How can you tell they're not using ubuntu kernel? I don't see any obvious clues in their screenshot.... and python 3.12 is indeed the version of python with noble, so nothing weird there.... | 23:28 |
| tomreyn | the hostname follows the pattern of automatically assigned hostnames on windows, so it's likely a WSL 1 container or 2 VM | 23:30 |
| enigma9o7 | Thanks. Hadn't used WSL/WSL2 so that didn't stand out for me. | 23:31 |
| babula | i like pip and pipx! | 23:37 |
| babula | really easy to use and works! | 23:38 |
| oerheks | but you have issues now. don't use sudo | 23:39 |
| babula | joonas@joonas-MS-7D95:~$ pip install subliminal | 23:40 |
| babula | error: externally-managed-environment | 23:40 |
| enigma9o7 | babula, did you read the first thing it says? You pasted a link to it earlier. its better to use apt to install the distro package. so "sudo apt install python3-subliminal" or are you having some problem with that? | 23:42 |
| enigma9o7 | If you must use pip, you have to tell it to --break-system-packages or it wont work. Because it's an externally managed environment, meaning its using another package manager to install stuff, which can break your OS or interfere with system packages, cuz apt doesn't know about it. | 23:42 |
| oerheks | and you troll you love ' i love pipx' | 23:43 |
| oerheks | 🤪 | 23:43 |
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