| sarnold | good morninig | 14:32 |
|---|---|---|
| cpaelzer | hidiho | 14:32 |
| slyon | o/ | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | slowly ... | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 14:34 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 14:34:03 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 14:34 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe ) | 14:34 |
| dviererbe | o/ | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: that is still the set of openstack cases | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: you can be happy that we are so far away from any freeze, so it isn't urgent | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | but I kind of get deja-vu seeing it every week | 14:35 |
| slyon | cpaelzer: IIRC it was delegated to some people from his team. | 14:35 |
| jamespage | I have volunteers to work the MIR for those - I will raise them and assign so its clear | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | I thought so as well, but expected to have bugs by now then | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | perfect | 14:35 |
| slyon | Maybe a dummy LP bug should be created and linked, so that we don't have to go over that every week | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | let me throw you two bugs then jamespage | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | and you can assign as you go with them | 14:36 |
| jamespage | thanks - I'll push them out accordingly | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | uh | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | they exist | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | but are not picked up | 14:36 |
| sarnold | that'll just change the section of the meeting, no? :) | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | checking ... | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-typeguard/+bug/2068033 | 14:36 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2068033 in python-typeguard (Ubuntu) "[MIR] python-typeguard" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 14:36 | |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/typeshed/+bug/2068035 | 14:36 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2068035 in typeshed (Ubuntu) "[MIR] typeshed" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 14:36 | |
| slyon | I supposed ~ubuntu-mir needs to be subscribed? | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | yep, done by now | 14:37 |
| slyon | sarnold: yeah, but if it's a bug stating "TBD", we can just skip over it without thinking about it :) | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | nothing else in this list for today | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | exactly @slyon | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | We had wsdd come into the queue earlier, but I grabbed and handled it as seb128 asked for this to go to security asap | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | which it is by now | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | none | 14:38 |
| slyon | \o/ | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | last update was on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libpanel/+bug/2066272 which was a review done | 14:39 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2066272 in libpanel (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libpanel" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 14:39 | |
| cpaelzer | nothing else that is super recent | 14:39 |
| * slyon is afraid that things are feeling too calm this (early) cycle | 14:39 | |
| cpaelzer | hehe | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | AFAICS many teams do more 24.04.x work, so it won't show here for oracular | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | but in e.g. increased SRU activity | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | but that is gut feeling, not data | 14:39 |
| slyon | yeah libpanel has some TODOs for jbicha | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | yep | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | wsdd also had some needs (as expected) | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | but ok in general | 14:40 |
| slyon | tests not running properly, otherwise LGTM | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Process/Documentation improvements | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/60 tries to address https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues/59 | 14:40 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Pull 60 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "clarify recent-build requirements" [Open] | 14:40 | |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Issue 59 in canonical/ubuntu-mir "Test rebuilds: What exactly do they mean and where are they?" [Open] | 14:40 | |
| cpaelzer | have a look, if we can get 1-2 +1 I can merge right away | 14:41 |
| slyon | +1 | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | Thanks, anyone still reading or should I merge (this is a fairly calm change, just clarifying better) | 14:42 |
| sarnold | +1 | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | thanks, merged | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place. | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | Internal link | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: did you see wsdd come in already? | 14:44 |
| sarnold | cpaelzer: I added it a few seconds ago | 14:44 |
| sarnold | (thanks to your hint) | 14:44 |
| slyon | sarnold: There's also bug #2069308 as of today, which should go to security review already, as the requested changes are fairly simple packaging things | 14:44 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2069308 in xdg-terminal-exec (Ubuntu) "MIR xdg-terminal-exec" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2069308 | 14:44 | |
| sarnold | hunh i'm not sure I knew xterm wasn't in main, heh | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | this one is in https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir but not yet in the jira board | 14:46 |
| sarnold | so, due to turnover, we won't have the throughput that we did last cycle; I'll try to find some assistance but things are feeling tight | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | so much for things being too calm | 14:46 |
| sarnold | aye, a bit more calm would be just the thing :) | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | and indeed the backlog starts to front-load | 14:46 |
| sarnold | yay for that | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | 5 waiting to be grabbed | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | do you need help in raising a concern, or is it not that bad yet? | 14:47 |
| slyon | I guess the xdg-terminal-exec can be handled with lower priority. They didn't mention a specific deadline IIRC | 14:47 |
| sarnold | not that bad yet, holidays have also interrupted the regular communication channels | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | ok | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | let us watch that if that means 4 weeks for review (not nice but ok) or 12 weeks (a problem I guess) | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | for now, leaving this in the hands of sarnold | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 14:48 |
| sarnold | just a small bit .. | 14:49 |
| slyon | sil2100 and myself were wondering about pulseaudio this morning.. | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: what is the status of pulseaudio that you wondered about? | 14:49 |
| slyon | src:pulseaudio is in main, but most binaries have been dropped, somehow they are still being pulled in images, which leaves us in a strange situation. | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | I miagine sarnold is typing more than a small bit as it still goes on | 14:49 |
| sarnold | sometimes questions are floating in space about "hey one of our partners wants such-and-such included, how do we do it?" -- while our giant pile of TODOs is well-suited for our review needs, it feels like a poor fit for "how do I get something included into ubuntu" or "how do I get a new package supported by canonical" | 14:50 |
| slyon | Does anybody know if we still need pulseaudio in main at all? or what's happening here? CC jbicha, didrocks | 14:50 |
| jbicha | slyon: we definitely need some pulseaudio stuff in main, it's being handled (hopefully today) | 14:50 |
| slyon | jbicha: oh, good to know! So binaries were demoted by accident? | 14:51 |
| jbicha | I haven't been able to find any logs that explain how some binaries got demoted everywhere but on armhf | 14:51 |
| sarnold | does anyone else see a need for a more packager-oriented guide? or is the current review documentation sufficient for the task, if not ideal? | 14:51 |
| slyon | sarnold: I wonder if this could be one section of the new packaging-guide? cc dviererbe | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | jbicha: thanks, we'll wait for what you find then | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: I wanted to write the same | 14:52 |
| sarnold | I don't intend for us to solve this today ;) but I just thought I'd put the idea out there, to see if anyone else sees this, or may see this over the course of the cycle | 14:52 |
| jbicha | also I believe pulseaudio did not show up on component-mismatches because the binaries were still in main on armhf | 14:52 |
| slyon | sarnold: I agree that having a higher level overview would be good. | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: but not so much in re-writing the same to have redundancy and mismatches. More to write an intro for those not knowing much about it referring to our page for the gritty details | 14:52 |
| slyon | which then references the ubuntu-mir template with all the specific TODOs | 14:52 |
| slyon | exactly | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: might be able to carry that into the backlog of the packaging guide which is in the Foundations Jira? | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | there are many stories about what could be written about, this would be one more | 14:53 |
| sarnold | a "new packaging guide" sounds like an excellent place to put this :) | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | or dviererbe? | 14:53 |
| slyon | I'll reach out to dviererbe, trying to get that into some backlog :) | 14:54 |
| sarnold | I tend to stumble over these conversations in places where the question may be overlooked entirely | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | thanks | 14:54 |
| sarnold | and hanging it on osmething like a new packaging guide feels likely to reach the right audience | 14:54 |
| sarnold | thanks | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | correct | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | any other AOB? | 14:54 |
| sarnold | nothing else | 14:54 |
| slyon | nothing | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | nothing from me either | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | jbicha: joalif: jamespage: last chance to add something else ... :-) | 14:55 |
| jbicha | nothing from me, thanks | 14:55 |
| joalif | nothing from me | 14:56 |
| === pushkarnk1 is now known as pushkarnk | ||
| cpaelzer | ok a countdown from the https://oeis.org/ to close it out | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | 42 | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | 14 | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | 5 | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | 2 | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | 1 | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | 1 | 14:56 |
| cpaelzer | see you all | 14:57 |
| sarnold | yay a return to an old tradition :D | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | indeed | 14:57 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, all | 14:57 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 14:57 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 14:57:08 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-06-25-14.34.moin.txt | 14:57 |
| slyon | thanks all! o/ | 14:57 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!
