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| juliank | o/ | 15:00 |
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| Skia | o7 | 15:01 |
| juliank | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 15:01 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 15:01:30 UTC. The chair is juliank. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 15:01 |
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| juliank | #topic Lightning rounds | 15:01 |
| ogayot | o/ | 15:01 |
| juliank | #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-06-27/ | 15:01 |
| slyon | o/ | 15:02 |
| cpete | o/ | 15:03 |
| tobhe | o/ | 15:03 |
| mkukri | o/ | 15:04 |
| adrien | \o (my ability to attend completely might be hampered today) | 15:04 |
| bdmurray | o/ | 15:09 |
| dviererbe | skia: "maybe fixed" :D | 15:09 |
| juliank | #topic Release incoming bugs | 15:11 |
| juliank | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-oo-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:11 |
| juliank | bug 2065040 | 15:12 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2065040 in snapd (Ubuntu) "Drop UBUNTU_CODENAME from /etc/os-release. Use VERSION_CODENAME instead" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2065040 | 15:12 | |
| Skia | dviererbe: yeah, time will tell :D | 15:12 |
| juliank | bdrung: I don't agree with this, the <vendor>_CODENAME is super useful to have to guide downstreams, such that you can still look at UBUNTU_CODENAME there for tools | 15:13 |
| juliank | e.g. PPAs continue to work on Mint and such | 15:13 |
| juliank | I know there are several things using it for just that, but I don't remember which ones :) | 15:14 |
| bdrung | that is an argument I cannot rebut | 15:14 |
| juliank | I'm setting it to Opinion | 15:15 |
| juliank | #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:15 |
| juliank | bug 2067672 | 15:16 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Bug 2067672 in OEM Priority Project "[SRU] Openssl copyright/changelog.Debian.gz file points at non-existent location" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2067672 | 15:16 | |
| adrien | basically the question is: can this be accepted as an SRU for openssl? | 15:16 |
| adrien | some people are bothered/annoyed or maybe see that as very problematic | 15:16 |
| juliank | I don't think it should be released as a standalone SRU | 15:16 |
| adrien | but still, that's openssl | 15:16 |
| juliank | But it should be folded with the next openssl SRU or security update | 15:17 |
| adrien | therefore it can be years | 15:17 |
| bdrung | I would suggest combining it with the next security update | 15:17 |
| juliank | So it can be uploaded now and staged in proposed | 15:17 |
| schopin | It's marked as High prio by OEM. | 15:17 |
| adrien | 3.0.x has been expectedly with fewer and fewer issues | 15:17 |
| schopin | ANd I'm not sure how security would feel about shipping this in one of their upload. Someone should check with them? | 15:17 |
| adrien | can do that | 15:18 |
| schopin | (not volunteering) | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | One consideration when making a decision like this is how many people have the package installed and the size of the package. | 15:18 |
| adrien | note that we won't be shipping the same change in OO, even now | 15:18 |
| adrien | it doesn't apply anymore IIRC (I should check nonetheless :) ) | 15:18 |
| schopin | bdmurray: I'd normally not consider this, but we're talking about the copyright file so maybe urgency is different in that case? | 15:19 |
| bdmurray | schopin: That could be. | 15:19 |
| juliank | The copyright file is still there it's just hard to find but we never end up actually breaking any license rules | 15:20 |
| bdrung | one alternative: do the SRU now but keep it in -proposed until the next update comes around? | 15:20 |
| juliank | Yes we should upload it and verify it | 15:20 |
| adrien | IIRC people in the security team don't like updates lingering in proposed | 15:20 |
| juliank | And add block-proposed-noble | 15:21 |
| bdmurray | That's exactly what block-proposed-$ is for | 15:21 |
| adrien | that goes back to checking with them | 15:21 |
| juliank | adrien: This is the standard procedure to stage those updates. | 15:21 |
| bdmurray | yes that | 15:21 |
| juliank | In any case yes first of all we need to have a fixed oracular | 15:21 |
| adrien | yes but it doesn't meant it's enjoyed by every party :D | 15:21 |
| juliank | Otherwise someone will shout at the uploader | 15:22 |
| adrien | oracular is fixed but differently | 15:22 |
| juliank | In what sense? | 15:22 |
| adrien | hmmm, maybe not actually | 15:23 |
| bdrung | let's take that outside of this meeting. I'll discuss/sponsor the oracular fix afterwards (as last patch pilot action) | 15:24 |
| juliank | the changelog says it links libssl-dev to openssl etc, but that's obviously not correct legally | 15:24 |
| juliank | Anyway no other incoming bugs for us! | 15:24 |
| juliank | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:24 |
| juliank | #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:25 |
| adrien | juliank: there's another issue: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl/+bug/1297025 | 15:25 |
| bdrung | I am still on dracut vs systemd | 15:25 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 1297025 in openssl (Ubuntu) "Either the changelog.gz is missing or there is an erroneous link in the libssl1.0.0 package" [Medium, Triaged] | 15:25 | |
| adrien | bdrung: ok, thanks | 15:25 |
| juliank | 17 packages needing attention, 12 packages not yet considered late | 15:26 |
| juliank | pyopenssl is with adrien still | 15:26 |
| tobhe | i've been looking into execnet for sphinx. the tests randomly fail on ppc64 | 15:26 |
| juliank | apport is with schopin sitll | 15:26 |
| schopin | yes | 15:27 |
| juliank | sphinx vs bugwarrior remains with liushuyu | 15:27 |
| juliank | sphinx vs execnet with tobhe | 15:27 |
| mkukri | tobhe: you can also trigger with migration-reference/0 and if that also fails it will migrate :D | 15:27 |
| juliank | openssh is just waiting ignoring | 15:27 |
| tobhe | mkukri: might be worth it. I did some research and saw that at least one of the tests was disabled in debian at some point until someone refactored things and turned it back on | 15:28 |
| liushuyu | bugwarrior is waiting on https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1029032#15 (a new package needs to be added, and adrien is still waiting for a sponor in Debian) | 15:28 |
| juliank | debhelper vs autopkgtest: bdmurray | 15:28 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Debian bug 1029032 in wnpp "ITP: python-google-api-core -- Google API client core library" [Wishlist, Open] | 15:28 | |
| mkukri | tobhe: it's really simple, just put &trigger=migration-reference/0 at the end of the url | 15:29 |
| juliank | dpkg bugs: bdrung did you have a quick check since you uploaded it if that's caused by dpkg in a trivial way to spot or something to distribute? | 15:29 |
| bdrung | juliank, the failures caused by me are normally easy to spot: missing environment variables DEB_* | 15:30 |
| juliank | bdrung: Yes, they all seem to be DEB_HOST_ARCH being undefined, so I'll uh leave that with you to fix up | 15:30 |
| bdrung | yes, DEB_HOST_ARCH is caused by me. give them to me. | 15:31 |
| juliank | vim has migrated | 15:31 |
| schopin | bad bdrung, causing archive-wide breakage. | 15:31 |
| schopin | ;) | 15:31 |
| bdrung | ...says Mr. Archive Breaker :D | 15:32 |
| juliank | libcgi-pm-perl cpete | 15:32 |
| bdrung | we are a good team | 15:32 |
| juliank | btrfs-progs: dbungert | 15:32 |
| bdmurray | We should have an archive breaker trophy or something | 15:32 |
| cpete | ack | 15:32 |
| juliank | And that's all | 15:32 |
| dbungert | juliank: I still have gcc-13, would you assign this to someone else? | 15:32 |
| juliank | #topic AOB | 15:32 |
| bdmurray | next Thursday is a holiday in the US | 15:33 |
| bdmurray | Monday is a holiday in Canada | 15:33 |
| juliank | dbungert: Oh it did not migrate so you are investigating the candidate status and update_output.txt? | 15:33 |
| dbungert | correct | 15:33 |
| bdrung | I don't think that we reached the level of last cycle (where we had armhf time_t and xzutils) | 15:33 |
| juliank | ack | 15:33 |
| juliank | So btrfs-progs: danilogondolfo | 15:33 |
| danilogondolfo | juliank, ok, but it should migrate soon, the last test passed hehe | 15:34 |
| juliank | So last time we started from the back, this time from the front, I guess next time we start from the middle? | 15:34 |
| juliank | And then we like go wide, alternating up and down the list of people | 15:34 |
| juliank | :D | 15:34 |
| waveform | I vote hilbert curve... | 15:35 |
| juliank | Gotta keep proposed-migration fair | 15:35 |
| schopin | Or we use the ordering bot that we used to use for the status reports? | 15:35 |
| juliank | Could also pick at random | 15:35 |
| mkukri | we could keep statistics of historical assignments and automate the new ones based on that | 15:35 |
| juliank | Indeed | 15:35 |
| bdmurray | with a weighting for new hires | 15:36 |
| juliank | mkukri: I take it you volunteer to write the statistics? | 15:36 |
| bdmurray | and people without upload rights | 15:36 |
| juliank | :D | 15:36 |
| schopin | You mean give more assignments the longer your tenure? I'm all for it :P | 15:36 |
| juliank | I actually wonder if this is possible as a JIRA report, mclemenceau_, tag them all proposed migration and see who worked on how many in the past 4 weeks? | 15:36 |
| adrien | I had to drop at the wrong time but it's possible to upload python-google-api-core in ubuntu directly with minor tweaks to the package I sent for inclusion in debian if anyone wants to do that | 15:37 |
| mkukri | im not sure where to source the data, irc log sounds like a pain | 15:37 |
| mkukri | but assuming jira is accurate it might be easy | 15:37 |
| adrien | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1029032#25 | 15:37 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Debian bug 1029032 in wnpp "ITP: python-google-api-core -- Google API client core library" [Wishlist, Open] | 15:37 | |
| juliank | cool | 15:38 |
| juliank | I lost a bit track of that | 15:38 |
| mclemenceau_ | Ack juliank, I can definitely look into that. that seems possible | 15:40 |
| juliank | cool | 15:42 |
| juliank | #endmeeting | 15:46 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:46:35 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-06-27-15.01.moin.txt | 15:46 |
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