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iconoclasthero@janc @guiverc i just tried it and got the same resunts but i have the logs now and a function os besides the 22.04 install.  in looking at what went wrong, there's a bunch of python3 stuff that had unmet dependencies.01:36
iconoclastheroaside from the realistic possibility that those just don't exist yet and "not offer the release upgrade" actually means "it might not actually work when you try it", the possibility that guiverc saw some issues that might have been related to this...01:38
iconoclastheroare there a couple places to look to see if this has been reported so that I can make a note of it in case it hasn't been logged?01:39
iconoclastherothis is where things went wrong https://bpa.st/B4NQ01:48
Bashing-om!info python3.12 noble02:02
ubottupython3.12 (3.12.3-1, noble): Interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 3.12). In component main, is important. Built by python3.12. Size 636 kB / 735 kB02:02
Bashing-omiconoclasthero: Mot knowlegeable about what the back ground here is - but might be good to check what version of python3 you have installed.02:04
JanCseems related to waydroid02:05
iconoclastherooh i was trying to do-release-upgrade last night02:05
iconoclastheroi just remembered seeing something about what to do with bugs and whatnot...  and it is at the BEGINNING of the 20000 lines of output I have, not the end.02:05
JanChttps://bpa.st/B4NQ#1L28-L2802:06
iconoclastherooh that f----ng waydroid.02:07
iconoclastheroi did an apt uninstall waydroid before i started the upgrade.02:07
iconoclastheroi have no idea how to get rid of that thing, lol02:08
JanCit sounds like you removed part of it & things break because other parts are still there02:08
JanCall the SyntaxWarning lines are harmless (for now; they need fixing for some future Python version, hence the warning)02:10
JanCand the dependency problems are because of the problem with waydroid02:10
iconoclastheroyeah, so i'm in a different os but chrooted into it02:11
iconoclastherohere's what find turned up02:11
iconoclastherohttps://bpa.st/3TMA02:11
iconoclastherothere's something in the sources list i can remove but i didn't bother because i thought it was uninstalled02:11
iconoclastheroor that one https://bpa.st/CZZA02:15
JanCwaydroid.rtupdate might be the one causing your troubles, but there might be other ones...02:21
* JanC goes off to sleep02:22
iconoclastheroi asked on the waydroind matrix02:24
iconoclasthero maybe i'll have an answer in the morning.02:24
urukDaron02:44
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orlockDoes the nginx version available for Ubuntu include any patch level information in it's version output?03:09
orlockSeeing just nginx/1.18.0 in some headers, not sure i can rely on that for backported patches (or the abscence of) like ssh03:11
pnutzh4x0ryou can view the nginx package information here: https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/nginx03:16
pnutzh4x0raccording to the changelog, there are a number of security related patches03:17
orlockYeah, i'm familiar, just dealingwith two different third parties (one doing security checks, the others a webhost)03:38
orlockjust wondering if the patch levels will appear in the version information available via http.. i'll contact the provider anyway03:39
orlocki can see ssh is patched, just havent had the nginx experience to know if i can rely on the public header data for this or not03:40
tomreynorlock: you should never rely on banners / version info presented, but use the package manager and tools such as debsums to verify version and integrity.04:08
ravagei think a production nginx should have "server_tokens off;" 🙂04:09
tomreynhttps://ubuntu.com/security/cves?package=nginx&version=jammy lists patch status for nginx in jammy (22.04 LTS)04:14
tomreynaccording to which all vulnerabilities with a CVE ID which have been attributed to this package have been fixed.04:16
orlockyes.. i'm intimately familiar with the Ubuntu CVE database :-D ... stupid external "security posture" companies dont understand patch backporting04:23
orlockand if you really want to get paranoid, you can't even rely on the package managers for proper versioning04:25
bparkeroh you absolutely can't04:26
bparkerthey do lie04:26
bparkermore than you want04:26
orlockand more than that, you never know when some admin's gone and installed directly from a tarball for "reasons" and the running binary isnt the one from the distro repo04:27
bparkercough xz04:28
orlockyeah extreme case, i was mor thinking about an admin who wants some bleeding edge widget and now your nginx server's running from a binary somewhere in the depths of /usr/local/ and even through your packages update, the binary being run is never touched...04:30
orlockHell, for the longest time, the URL for the source code to ping was wrong in most distros04:30
orlockalmost certainly not what it was even being built against, but is it too much to ask that the source URL in the man page actually reflects reality? :-D04:31
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ice9does anybody face this issue too? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bug/206547305:27
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2065473 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Some apps (KDE) takes long time to show up in dock" [Undecided, New]05:27
ibrahimwhat's up07:20
ibrahimanyone07:20
ibrahimhelloo07:20
xxycould i upgrade ubuntu22.04 to 24.04 directly ? reinstalling Applications is cumbersome and laborious07:39
RikMillsxxy: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-24-04-lts-noble-numbat-release-notes/3989007:41
RikMills"Users of 22.04 LTS however will be offered the automatic upgrade when 24.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for the 15th of August."07:41
xxyRikMills: ok, then i wait a while, it's soon07:42
mybalzitchliving life in the dev lane08:11
marcnavaHola!09:15
okeskousHello09:19
bizmatehi, any alternative to validrive for ubuntu (check if usb is fake and how much storage it can support?09:28
vortexxhttps://blog.qualys.com/vulnerabilities-threat-research/2024/07/01/regresshion-remote-unauthenticated-code-execution-vulnerability-in-openssh-server  if you have public facing sshd instances, time to mitigate by changing LoginGraceTime to 0 in /etc/ssh/sshd_config09:53
vortexxI imagine an updated sshd package will show up soon09:53
vortexx(other mitigation could be to make sshd listen only on VPN IPs instead of being public facing)09:54
aryangroyper1488hacker voice im in11:19
aryangroyper1488:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdd11:19
fwehtcan i only encrypt my disk at installation time or also later?11:36
ravagenot on the fly11:37
ravageusually a reinstall is much faster than doing that manually11:37
fwehti see, thanks!11:38
BluesKajHi all11:52
Guest87hi all few minutes ago ubuntu didn't start. It asked me login and password in black screen e only text command prompt12:45
Guest87i put correct password, but i don't know the username to use.. maybe the generic i use that is "user"12:46
Guest87a screen similar to this: https://images.app.goo.gl/v2XUgkqn46FY3TBx512:47
Guest87i didn't shot a pic12:48
Guest87anyway operating system didn't start12:48
Guest87now i'm by pendrive with option "try ubuntu"12:49
koenraadWhat version of Ubuntu will be installed on WSL with wsl --install ??13:39
mcphailkoenraad: when I did this a few days ago it was 22.0413:42
koenraadmcphail thank you, I just confirmed on Ubuntu official MS Store page.13:43
Guest46hi all14:14
Guest46ubuntu doesn't start14:14
Guest46i try to purge nvidia14:15
Guest46but it doesn't start yet14:15
Guest46https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-nbBRVAXJHR2Up0GP0mVXdUrfCllTdEl/view?usp=drive_link, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-mYcblckZr19QhX1U7i0x4Re-lDlH2tD/view?usp=drive_link14:15
Guest46is anybody there?14:25
zaggynlno14:25
Guest46why14:25
zaggynlI kid, it's just that no one has replied yet, it may take some time14:26
zaggynlso what happened and why are you trying to purge the nvidia package?14:26
Guest46ok i wait, i just need pc for several things14:26
Guest46ubuntu started with that page14:27
Guest46i guess it's caused by graphical card i use this command14:27
Guest46sudo apt purge nvidia14:27
Guest46after it suggested me another one like in photo14:27
zaggynlyou already ran the purge command?14:27
Guest46yes14:27
Guest46now i'm from live usb14:28
zaggynler, that might have removed most of the ubuntu-desktop package14:28
Guest46i used it in command prompt when it started asking me username and password in text screen14:28
Guest39Please add back the old installer as option because the new one used in Noble is so broken it isn't funny anymore. Crashes all the time on prebuilt NUCs. No other distro does this. Been a mess since before release and even the daily builds still crash so much. Just booting into the live installer already causes many crashes. Really amazing in a way14:29
zaggynlfrom the ubuntu install, try sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop14:29
Guest39to mess up this badly. Just revert it or give us the option to use the old installer.14:29
Guest46@Guest39 i don't understand what shoudl i do14:30
Guest46zaggynl you mean when computer start?14:31
zaggynlyeah14:31
Guest46ok14:31
Guest46i hope someone read my previous messages14:31
Guest46In the meantime I'll try to do this14:32
Guest0zaggynl https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-oJZDOetE1iiiiPW4Tea0qkx-tReN0BP/view?usp=drivesdk14:40
lotuspsychj3Guest0: system up to date?14:43
momkenhello14:43
momkenI have shared a folder in Ubuntu14:44
momkenUsing samba14:44
Guest11lotuspsychj3 i'm from pc14:45
Guest11lotuspsychje14:45
Guest11i always check updates before using OS14:45
Guest11from the ap "Software" from the other app "Ubuntu software" the store14:46
Guest11and those one it suggest me by the other app "Updates software"14:46
Guest11may i use terminal by live usb but for istalled version?14:47
Guest11because if not, i have to restart each time14:47
Guest11and go back again here14:47
lotuspsychj3Guest11: did you install external ppa's to your system?14:48
Guest11i don't know what ppa's are14:49
lotuspsychj3Guest11: ppa's are sources, added by installing other software that exist outside the ubuntu repos14:49
Guest11i dind't change any settings in "Updates software" app14:50
Guest11i usually install just from ubuntu software and software14:51
Guest11rarely i installed other software from out of them14:51
lotuspsychj3Guest11: can you pastebin what happens when you enter this command: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade14:51
Guest11yes but now i'm from live usb14:51
Guest11can i access command prompt from here referred to istalled ubuntu?14:51
Guest11prompt is now ubuntu@ubuntu:~$14:52
Guest11in stead on installed version i have user@user-X580VN14:53
Guest11how to access that position here by pc? if not it's a problem to restart and go back again each time by live usb14:53
Guest11i have to change boot priority, wait each time, ecc....14:53
Guest11lotuspsychj314:54
lotuspsychj3Guest11: you can try the recoverymode on your (not booting) computer and try fix broken packages from the menu14:54
Guest11lotuspsychj3 how to do this?14:55
Guest11i just have request for username and password at start of computer14:55
lotuspsychj3!recovery | Guest1114:55
ubottuGuest11: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode14:55
lotuspsychj3Guest11: you can also join this support channel with your phone or another device for example, while volunteers help you live14:56
Guest11ok but by phone is so difficult14:59
Guest11If booting into recovery mode does not work you can still use your installation CD (if it is a live cd) as described in LivecdRecovery.15:00
Guest11lotuspsychj315:01
Guest0lotuspsychj3 pleasw give me again the link, i m from phone15:06
lotuspsychj3Guest0: hold shift at boot to enter GRUB15:07
Guest0Doest open anything15:07
Guest0lotuspsychj3 ok now open15:08
Guest0Now?15:08
Guest0lotuspsychj315:08
Guest0Resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary15:09
lotuspsychj3Guest0: enable network, then pick root(shell)15:11
Guest0Enter for maintenance or CTRL+D to continue?15:12
Guest0lotuspsychj315:12
Guest0lotuspsychj3 i don t know what choose15:16
Guest0I don t know how to go on15:20
Guest0May someone tell me wha15:23
Guest0what i have to choose to go on?15:24
Guest0lotuspsychj3 are u there?15:27
Guest0lotuspsychje Sorry for the inconvenience, if you want we'll try another time15:37
zmefhello all! i was wondering where/how I woulf go about getting some swag for the Illinois Ubuntu LoCo for Software Freedom Day. I thought i read somewhere where unverified LoCo's were eleigible for some stickers and such, Any thoughts?15:38
ravagezmef: check https://matrix.to/#/#loco:ubuntu.com15:40
zmefty15:40
ravagethat is a good place to start a room and get in contact with others15:40
Guest0May someone else help me?15:50
belovedsandwormno. you get no help.16:07
leftyfbbelovedsandworm: that was uncalled for16:14
Guest29ubuntu 24.04 lts seems to be affected by the openssh server ( sshd ) vulnerability, should i do a manual upgrade or wait? not using sshd very often16:26
Guest29ssh -V gives version 9.6p116:27
ravageupdates are already out16:27
Guest29sudo update && upgrade didnt update it at least…?16:28
Guest29https://blog.qualys.com/vulnerabilities-threat-research/2024/07/01/regresshion-remote-unauthenticated-code-execution-vulnerability-in-openssh-server16:29
Guest29im referring to this16:29
ravage1:9.6p1-3ubuntu13.3 is the fixed version16:29
ravageand thats what i got on my noble install16:29
ravagehttps://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssh/openssh_9.6p1-3ubuntu13.3/changelog16:29
Guest29The vulnerability resurfaces in versions from 8.5p1 up to, but not including, 9.8p1 due to the accidental removal of a critical component in a function.16:29
ravage> ssh -V16:30
ravageOpenSSH_9.6p1 Ubuntu-3ubuntu13.3, OpenSSL 3.0.13 30 Jan 202416:30
Guest29thats an older version than 9.8p1 or am I misunderstandint sometjing16:32
ravagethat is the version you get with 24.0416:32
ravageand it has that issue fixed16:32
ravagesee the package changelog16:33
Guest29alright, what sbout ubuntu server? seems to be running 9.3p1 aug 2023?16:33
ravageit has the same package16:34
Guest29my  noble server has 9.3p1 Ubuntu-1ubuntu3.316:36
Guest29fresh update16:36
ravagegood16:36
Guest29so its patched there too, im just confused with the naming16:36
Guest29thanks16:36
kk1234Guest29 it got patched already, try apt changelog openssh-client | apt changelog openssh-server16:36
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Guest29ok cheers for this. patches by Marc on June 26th :)16:38
ElliriaThis might help with the names: https://askubuntu.com/questions/620533/what-is-the-meaning-of-the-xubuntuy-string-in-ubuntu-package-names16:43
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jsmoothI have php internal web server running via 'artisan' (Laravel PHP Framework), I'm trying to access it via phone browser by typing in the IP on the same WiFi network. Instead of going to the server, it's searching for hte IP.18:02
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joasalguien español que pueda ayudarme?18:53
oerheks!es18:53
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.18:53
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zphinxDoes snap-store-proxy have a buglist anywhere? i found an issue with the built in nginx server in the snap, where it tries to bind on an ipv6 ip, and crashes if no ipv6 is found19:53
leftyfbzphinx: which snap package? There are no official nginx server snap packages from what I can tell20:10
zphinxleftyfb: not an nginx snap in and of itself, the nginx built into the snap-store-proxy snap20:11
leftyfbzphinx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapstore-server20:13
zphinxthanks20:15
blasterhi I recently installed windows alongside my ubuntu installation and I am having trouble restoring grub.  I ran boot-repair and this was my output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7Twrrp7FKj/20:22
NetSysFirethis is ubuntu server 24.04, very freshly installed. and i noticed that systemctl start sshd.service doesnt work - and the ssh.service has an Alias=sshd.service. however! this does only apply when ssh.service is enabled, which it isnt. only the .socket is enabled and thus renders the Alias nonfunctional since systemd only creates a symlink for aliases on enable20:34
leftyfbNetSysFire: what is your question or what isn't working for you?20:35
NetSysFirethis is more of a bug report and i am unsure where to even put this20:36
NetSysFireright now systemctl verb sshd.service will not work on fresh installs due to what i described and now the question is if this needs to be handled by ubuntu or openssh upstream20:36
leftyfbNetSysFire: you can 100% use "sudo systemctl restart ssh" to restart the ssh service after making changes to your sshd_config20:38
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NetSysFireyes. but it is intended that systemctl restart sshd works due to the Alias=. it doesnt because its not enabled, only the ssh.socket is20:39
leftyfbNetSysFire: you can mask the ssh.socket and disable and then re-enable the ssh service to go use the service directly without the sockedt20:39
NetSysFirei do not need support. i solved this for me. but the fact that the Alias= is nonfunctional is something thats definitely unintended20:40
leftyfb!bug | NetSysFire20:41
ubottuNetSysFire: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.20:41
NetSysFireis there a sane way to report this bug without having to make yet another account? i am tired of having to make accounts for things i do exactly once in my life and am absolutely not in the mood to go through this right meow20:55
ravageno20:55
NetSysFirenot even reporting in -bugs?20:55
ravageno20:55
ravagethere is exactly one way to report bugs. and that is through launchpad20:56
oerheksonly crash reports can be filed without account. whoopsie20:58
ArgorokThere are any GUI app to modify iso files that keep their state? (Onky add/remove/modify files I wanna, do not mess with flags, bootable and such)21:09
ArgorokUsing kubuntu 24.0421:10
oerhekscubic can do that, not sure it is suitable for Noble21:11
oerhekselse this project, not ours but interesting https://fai-project.org/21:13
NetSysFireyeah, not gonna create an account i only use once to report this minor-ish bug. i already solved this for myself though as i said. o/21:14
ArgorokI dont wanna mess with ubuntu iso. I am using ubuntu and wanna mess with other isos21:22
gordonjcpArgorok: what are you trying to achieve?21:24
oerheksfirst you want to, then you dont21:26
oerheksthat fai tool mentioned many distros21:27
hwtinker309electl22:01
AavarI tried to install vscode from snap. but when I try to run it I get a grey window that dissapears and the error "mkdir: cannot create directory ‘’: No such file or directory". I have tried to remove the snap and reinstall, but it has the same result22:30
ravagetry codium22:32
Aavarravage: same error with codium.22:33
junyxWhat's the point of defragmentation? Does it save disk space?22:58
JanCthe main point is access speed on hard disks (and sometimes it might reduce wear)23:01
JanCon SSDs it's almost useless in most cases23:02
junyxThanks JanC23:05
JanCbasically, HDDs are slow to jump from one location on the disk to another (this is called "seeking"), so when the parts of a file are spread all over the disk, it becomes slow to read/write the file; defragmentation moves all those parts together so that they can be read/written sequentially, which is much faster23:10
JanCit's most problematic when a large file is spread in small fragments all over the place, which is something modern filesystems try to avoid as much as possible23:11
junyxThanks JanC23:59

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