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iconoclasthero | @janc @guiverc i just tried it and got the same resunts but i have the logs now and a function os besides the 22.04 install. in looking at what went wrong, there's a bunch of python3 stuff that had unmet dependencies. | 01:36 |
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iconoclasthero | aside from the realistic possibility that those just don't exist yet and "not offer the release upgrade" actually means "it might not actually work when you try it", the possibility that guiverc saw some issues that might have been related to this... | 01:38 |
iconoclasthero | are there a couple places to look to see if this has been reported so that I can make a note of it in case it hasn't been logged? | 01:39 |
iconoclasthero | this is where things went wrong https://bpa.st/B4NQ | 01:48 |
Bashing-om | !info python3.12 noble | 02:02 |
ubottu | python3.12 (3.12.3-1, noble): Interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 3.12). In component main, is important. Built by python3.12. Size 636 kB / 735 kB | 02:02 |
Bashing-om | iconoclasthero: Mot knowlegeable about what the back ground here is - but might be good to check what version of python3 you have installed. | 02:04 |
JanC | seems related to waydroid | 02:05 |
iconoclasthero | oh i was trying to do-release-upgrade last night | 02:05 |
iconoclasthero | i just remembered seeing something about what to do with bugs and whatnot... and it is at the BEGINNING of the 20000 lines of output I have, not the end. | 02:05 |
JanC | https://bpa.st/B4NQ#1L28-L28 | 02:06 |
iconoclasthero | oh that f----ng waydroid. | 02:07 |
iconoclasthero | i did an apt uninstall waydroid before i started the upgrade. | 02:07 |
iconoclasthero | i have no idea how to get rid of that thing, lol | 02:08 |
JanC | it sounds like you removed part of it & things break because other parts are still there | 02:08 |
JanC | all the SyntaxWarning lines are harmless (for now; they need fixing for some future Python version, hence the warning) | 02:10 |
JanC | and the dependency problems are because of the problem with waydroid | 02:10 |
iconoclasthero | yeah, so i'm in a different os but chrooted into it | 02:11 |
iconoclasthero | here's what find turned up | 02:11 |
iconoclasthero | https://bpa.st/3TMA | 02:11 |
iconoclasthero | there's something in the sources list i can remove but i didn't bother because i thought it was uninstalled | 02:11 |
iconoclasthero | or that one https://bpa.st/CZZA | 02:15 |
JanC | waydroid.rtupdate might be the one causing your troubles, but there might be other ones... | 02:21 |
* JanC goes off to sleep | 02:22 | |
iconoclasthero | i asked on the waydroind matrix | 02:24 |
iconoclasthero | maybe i'll have an answer in the morning. | 02:24 |
uruk | Daron | 02:44 |
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orlock | Does the nginx version available for Ubuntu include any patch level information in it's version output? | 03:09 |
orlock | Seeing just nginx/1.18.0 in some headers, not sure i can rely on that for backported patches (or the abscence of) like ssh | 03:11 |
pnutzh4x0r | you can view the nginx package information here: https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/nginx | 03:16 |
pnutzh4x0r | according to the changelog, there are a number of security related patches | 03:17 |
orlock | Yeah, i'm familiar, just dealingwith two different third parties (one doing security checks, the others a webhost) | 03:38 |
orlock | just wondering if the patch levels will appear in the version information available via http.. i'll contact the provider anyway | 03:39 |
orlock | i can see ssh is patched, just havent had the nginx experience to know if i can rely on the public header data for this or not | 03:40 |
tomreyn | orlock: you should never rely on banners / version info presented, but use the package manager and tools such as debsums to verify version and integrity. | 04:08 |
ravage | i think a production nginx should have "server_tokens off;" 🙂 | 04:09 |
tomreyn | https://ubuntu.com/security/cves?package=nginx&version=jammy lists patch status for nginx in jammy (22.04 LTS) | 04:14 |
tomreyn | according to which all vulnerabilities with a CVE ID which have been attributed to this package have been fixed. | 04:16 |
orlock | yes.. i'm intimately familiar with the Ubuntu CVE database :-D ... stupid external "security posture" companies dont understand patch backporting | 04:23 |
orlock | and if you really want to get paranoid, you can't even rely on the package managers for proper versioning | 04:25 |
bparker | oh you absolutely can't | 04:26 |
bparker | they do lie | 04:26 |
bparker | more than you want | 04:26 |
orlock | and more than that, you never know when some admin's gone and installed directly from a tarball for "reasons" and the running binary isnt the one from the distro repo | 04:27 |
bparker | cough xz | 04:28 |
orlock | yeah extreme case, i was mor thinking about an admin who wants some bleeding edge widget and now your nginx server's running from a binary somewhere in the depths of /usr/local/ and even through your packages update, the binary being run is never touched... | 04:30 |
orlock | Hell, for the longest time, the URL for the source code to ping was wrong in most distros | 04:30 |
orlock | almost certainly not what it was even being built against, but is it too much to ask that the source URL in the man page actually reflects reality? :-D | 04:31 |
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no | hello | 04:59 |
no | hello | 04:59 |
no | hello | 04:59 |
ice9 | does anybody face this issue too? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bug/2065473 | 05:27 |
-ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2065473 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Some apps (KDE) takes long time to show up in dock" [Undecided, New] | 05:27 | |
ibrahim | what's up | 07:20 |
ibrahim | anyone | 07:20 |
ibrahim | helloo | 07:20 |
xxy | could i upgrade ubuntu22.04 to 24.04 directly ? reinstalling Applications is cumbersome and laborious | 07:39 |
RikMills | xxy: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-24-04-lts-noble-numbat-release-notes/39890 | 07:41 |
RikMills | "Users of 22.04 LTS however will be offered the automatic upgrade when 24.04.1 LTS is released, which is scheduled for the 15th of August." | 07:41 |
xxy | RikMills: ok, then i wait a while, it's soon | 07:42 |
mybalzitch | living life in the dev lane | 08:11 |
marcnava | Hola! | 09:15 |
okeskous | Hello | 09:19 |
bizmate | hi, any alternative to validrive for ubuntu (check if usb is fake and how much storage it can support? | 09:28 |
vortexx | https://blog.qualys.com/vulnerabilities-threat-research/2024/07/01/regresshion-remote-unauthenticated-code-execution-vulnerability-in-openssh-server if you have public facing sshd instances, time to mitigate by changing LoginGraceTime to 0 in /etc/ssh/sshd_config | 09:53 |
vortexx | I imagine an updated sshd package will show up soon | 09:53 |
vortexx | (other mitigation could be to make sshd listen only on VPN IPs instead of being public facing) | 09:54 |
aryangroyper1488 | hacker voice im in | 11:19 |
aryangroyper1488 | :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDdd | 11:19 |
fweht | can i only encrypt my disk at installation time or also later? | 11:36 |
ravage | not on the fly | 11:37 |
ravage | usually a reinstall is much faster than doing that manually | 11:37 |
fweht | i see, thanks! | 11:38 |
BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:52 |
Guest87 | hi all few minutes ago ubuntu didn't start. It asked me login and password in black screen e only text command prompt | 12:45 |
Guest87 | i put correct password, but i don't know the username to use.. maybe the generic i use that is "user" | 12:46 |
Guest87 | a screen similar to this: https://images.app.goo.gl/v2XUgkqn46FY3TBx5 | 12:47 |
Guest87 | i didn't shot a pic | 12:48 |
Guest87 | anyway operating system didn't start | 12:48 |
Guest87 | now i'm by pendrive with option "try ubuntu" | 12:49 |
koenraad | What version of Ubuntu will be installed on WSL with wsl --install ?? | 13:39 |
mcphail | koenraad: when I did this a few days ago it was 22.04 | 13:42 |
koenraad | mcphail thank you, I just confirmed on Ubuntu official MS Store page. | 13:43 |
Guest46 | hi all | 14:14 |
Guest46 | ubuntu doesn't start | 14:14 |
Guest46 | i try to purge nvidia | 14:15 |
Guest46 | but it doesn't start yet | 14:15 |
Guest46 | https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-nbBRVAXJHR2Up0GP0mVXdUrfCllTdEl/view?usp=drive_link, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-mYcblckZr19QhX1U7i0x4Re-lDlH2tD/view?usp=drive_link | 14:15 |
Guest46 | is anybody there? | 14:25 |
zaggynl | no | 14:25 |
Guest46 | why | 14:25 |
zaggynl | I kid, it's just that no one has replied yet, it may take some time | 14:26 |
zaggynl | so what happened and why are you trying to purge the nvidia package? | 14:26 |
Guest46 | ok i wait, i just need pc for several things | 14:26 |
Guest46 | ubuntu started with that page | 14:27 |
Guest46 | i guess it's caused by graphical card i use this command | 14:27 |
Guest46 | sudo apt purge nvidia | 14:27 |
Guest46 | after it suggested me another one like in photo | 14:27 |
zaggynl | you already ran the purge command? | 14:27 |
Guest46 | yes | 14:27 |
Guest46 | now i'm from live usb | 14:28 |
zaggynl | er, that might have removed most of the ubuntu-desktop package | 14:28 |
Guest46 | i used it in command prompt when it started asking me username and password in text screen | 14:28 |
Guest39 | Please add back the old installer as option because the new one used in Noble is so broken it isn't funny anymore. Crashes all the time on prebuilt NUCs. No other distro does this. Been a mess since before release and even the daily builds still crash so much. Just booting into the live installer already causes many crashes. Really amazing in a way | 14:29 |
zaggynl | from the ubuntu install, try sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop | 14:29 |
Guest39 | to mess up this badly. Just revert it or give us the option to use the old installer. | 14:29 |
Guest46 | @Guest39 i don't understand what shoudl i do | 14:30 |
Guest46 | zaggynl you mean when computer start? | 14:31 |
zaggynl | yeah | 14:31 |
Guest46 | ok | 14:31 |
Guest46 | i hope someone read my previous messages | 14:31 |
Guest46 | In the meantime I'll try to do this | 14:32 |
Guest0 | zaggynl https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-oJZDOetE1iiiiPW4Tea0qkx-tReN0BP/view?usp=drivesdk | 14:40 |
lotuspsychj3 | Guest0: system up to date? | 14:43 |
momken | hello | 14:43 |
momken | I have shared a folder in Ubuntu | 14:44 |
momken | Using samba | 14:44 |
Guest11 | lotuspsychj3 i'm from pc | 14:45 |
Guest11 | lotuspsychje | 14:45 |
Guest11 | i always check updates before using OS | 14:45 |
Guest11 | from the ap "Software" from the other app "Ubuntu software" the store | 14:46 |
Guest11 | and those one it suggest me by the other app "Updates software" | 14:46 |
Guest11 | may i use terminal by live usb but for istalled version? | 14:47 |
Guest11 | because if not, i have to restart each time | 14:47 |
Guest11 | and go back again here | 14:47 |
lotuspsychj3 | Guest11: did you install external ppa's to your system? | 14:48 |
Guest11 | i don't know what ppa's are | 14:49 |
lotuspsychj3 | Guest11: ppa's are sources, added by installing other software that exist outside the ubuntu repos | 14:49 |
Guest11 | i dind't change any settings in "Updates software" app | 14:50 |
Guest11 | i usually install just from ubuntu software and software | 14:51 |
Guest11 | rarely i installed other software from out of them | 14:51 |
lotuspsychj3 | Guest11: can you pastebin what happens when you enter this command: sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade | 14:51 |
Guest11 | yes but now i'm from live usb | 14:51 |
Guest11 | can i access command prompt from here referred to istalled ubuntu? | 14:51 |
Guest11 | prompt is now ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ | 14:52 |
Guest11 | in stead on installed version i have user@user-X580VN | 14:53 |
Guest11 | how to access that position here by pc? if not it's a problem to restart and go back again each time by live usb | 14:53 |
Guest11 | i have to change boot priority, wait each time, ecc.... | 14:53 |
Guest11 | lotuspsychj3 | 14:54 |
lotuspsychj3 | Guest11: you can try the recoverymode on your (not booting) computer and try fix broken packages from the menu | 14:54 |
Guest11 | lotuspsychj3 how to do this? | 14:55 |
Guest11 | i just have request for username and password at start of computer | 14:55 |
lotuspsychj3 | !recovery | Guest11 | 14:55 |
ubottu | Guest11: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode | 14:55 |
lotuspsychj3 | Guest11: you can also join this support channel with your phone or another device for example, while volunteers help you live | 14:56 |
Guest11 | ok but by phone is so difficult | 14:59 |
Guest11 | If booting into recovery mode does not work you can still use your installation CD (if it is a live cd) as described in LivecdRecovery. | 15:00 |
Guest11 | lotuspsychj3 | 15:01 |
Guest0 | lotuspsychj3 pleasw give me again the link, i m from phone | 15:06 |
lotuspsychj3 | Guest0: hold shift at boot to enter GRUB | 15:07 |
Guest0 | Doest open anything | 15:07 |
Guest0 | lotuspsychj3 ok now open | 15:08 |
Guest0 | Now? | 15:08 |
Guest0 | lotuspsychj3 | 15:08 |
Guest0 | Resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary | 15:09 |
lotuspsychj3 | Guest0: enable network, then pick root(shell) | 15:11 |
Guest0 | Enter for maintenance or CTRL+D to continue? | 15:12 |
Guest0 | lotuspsychj3 | 15:12 |
Guest0 | lotuspsychj3 i don t know what choose | 15:16 |
Guest0 | I don t know how to go on | 15:20 |
Guest0 | May someone tell me wha | 15:23 |
Guest0 | what i have to choose to go on? | 15:24 |
Guest0 | lotuspsychj3 are u there? | 15:27 |
Guest0 | lotuspsychje Sorry for the inconvenience, if you want we'll try another time | 15:37 |
zmef | hello all! i was wondering where/how I woulf go about getting some swag for the Illinois Ubuntu LoCo for Software Freedom Day. I thought i read somewhere where unverified LoCo's were eleigible for some stickers and such, Any thoughts? | 15:38 |
ravage | zmef: check https://matrix.to/#/#loco:ubuntu.com | 15:40 |
zmef | ty | 15:40 |
ravage | that is a good place to start a room and get in contact with others | 15:40 |
Guest0 | May someone else help me? | 15:50 |
belovedsandworm | no. you get no help. | 16:07 |
leftyfb | belovedsandworm: that was uncalled for | 16:14 |
Guest29 | ubuntu 24.04 lts seems to be affected by the openssh server ( sshd ) vulnerability, should i do a manual upgrade or wait? not using sshd very often | 16:26 |
Guest29 | ssh -V gives version 9.6p1 | 16:27 |
ravage | updates are already out | 16:27 |
Guest29 | sudo update && upgrade didnt update it at least…? | 16:28 |
Guest29 | https://blog.qualys.com/vulnerabilities-threat-research/2024/07/01/regresshion-remote-unauthenticated-code-execution-vulnerability-in-openssh-server | 16:29 |
Guest29 | im referring to this | 16:29 |
ravage | 1:9.6p1-3ubuntu13.3 is the fixed version | 16:29 |
ravage | and thats what i got on my noble install | 16:29 |
ravage | https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssh/openssh_9.6p1-3ubuntu13.3/changelog | 16:29 |
Guest29 | The vulnerability resurfaces in versions from 8.5p1 up to, but not including, 9.8p1 due to the accidental removal of a critical component in a function. | 16:29 |
ravage | > ssh -V | 16:30 |
ravage | OpenSSH_9.6p1 Ubuntu-3ubuntu13.3, OpenSSL 3.0.13 30 Jan 2024 | 16:30 |
Guest29 | thats an older version than 9.8p1 or am I misunderstandint sometjing | 16:32 |
ravage | that is the version you get with 24.04 | 16:32 |
ravage | and it has that issue fixed | 16:32 |
ravage | see the package changelog | 16:33 |
Guest29 | alright, what sbout ubuntu server? seems to be running 9.3p1 aug 2023? | 16:33 |
ravage | it has the same package | 16:34 |
Guest29 | my  noble server has 9.3p1 Ubuntu-1ubuntu3.3 | 16:36 |
Guest29 | fresh update | 16:36 |
ravage | good | 16:36 |
Guest29 | so its patched there too, im just confused with the naming | 16:36 |
Guest29 | thanks | 16:36 |
kk1234 | Guest29 it got patched already, try apt changelog openssh-client | apt changelog openssh-server | 16:36 |
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Guest29 | ok cheers for this. patches by Marc on June 26th :) | 16:38 |
Elliria | This might help with the names: https://askubuntu.com/questions/620533/what-is-the-meaning-of-the-xubuntuy-string-in-ubuntu-package-names | 16:43 |
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alperen | Selam | 17:45 |
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jsmooth | I have php internal web server running via 'artisan' (Laravel PHP Framework), I'm trying to access it via phone browser by typing in the IP on the same WiFi network. Instead of going to the server, it's searching for hte IP. | 18:02 |
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joas | alguien español que pueda ayudarme? | 18:53 |
oerheks | !es | 18:53 |
ubottu | En la mayorÃa de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 18:53 |
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zphinx | Does snap-store-proxy have a buglist anywhere? i found an issue with the built in nginx server in the snap, where it tries to bind on an ipv6 ip, and crashes if no ipv6 is found | 19:53 |
leftyfb | zphinx: which snap package? There are no official nginx server snap packages from what I can tell | 20:10 |
zphinx | leftyfb: not an nginx snap in and of itself, the nginx built into the snap-store-proxy snap | 20:11 |
leftyfb | zphinx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapstore-server | 20:13 |
zphinx | thanks | 20:15 |
blaster | hi I recently installed windows alongside my ubuntu installation and I am having trouble restoring grub. I ran boot-repair and this was my output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7Twrrp7FKj/ | 20:22 |
NetSysFire | this is ubuntu server 24.04, very freshly installed. and i noticed that systemctl start sshd.service doesnt work - and the ssh.service has an Alias=sshd.service. however! this does only apply when ssh.service is enabled, which it isnt. only the .socket is enabled and thus renders the Alias nonfunctional since systemd only creates a symlink for aliases on enable | 20:34 |
leftyfb | NetSysFire: what is your question or what isn't working for you? | 20:35 |
NetSysFire | this is more of a bug report and i am unsure where to even put this | 20:36 |
NetSysFire | right now systemctl verb sshd.service will not work on fresh installs due to what i described and now the question is if this needs to be handled by ubuntu or openssh upstream | 20:36 |
leftyfb | NetSysFire: you can 100% use "sudo systemctl restart ssh" to restart the ssh service after making changes to your sshd_config | 20:38 |
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NetSysFire | yes. but it is intended that systemctl restart sshd works due to the Alias=. it doesnt because its not enabled, only the ssh.socket is | 20:39 |
leftyfb | NetSysFire: you can mask the ssh.socket and disable and then re-enable the ssh service to go use the service directly without the sockedt | 20:39 |
NetSysFire | i do not need support. i solved this for me. but the fact that the Alias= is nonfunctional is something thats definitely unintended | 20:40 |
leftyfb | !bug | NetSysFire | 20:41 |
ubottu | NetSysFire: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. | 20:41 |
NetSysFire | is there a sane way to report this bug without having to make yet another account? i am tired of having to make accounts for things i do exactly once in my life and am absolutely not in the mood to go through this right meow | 20:55 |
ravage | no | 20:55 |
NetSysFire | not even reporting in -bugs? | 20:55 |
ravage | no | 20:55 |
ravage | there is exactly one way to report bugs. and that is through launchpad | 20:56 |
oerheks | only crash reports can be filed without account. whoopsie | 20:58 |
Argorok | There are any GUI app to modify iso files that keep their state? (Onky add/remove/modify files I wanna, do not mess with flags, bootable and such) | 21:09 |
Argorok | Using kubuntu 24.04 | 21:10 |
oerheks | cubic can do that, not sure it is suitable for Noble | 21:11 |
oerheks | else this project, not ours but interesting https://fai-project.org/ | 21:13 |
NetSysFire | yeah, not gonna create an account i only use once to report this minor-ish bug. i already solved this for myself though as i said. o/ | 21:14 |
Argorok | I dont wanna mess with ubuntu iso. I am using ubuntu and wanna mess with other isos | 21:22 |
gordonjcp | Argorok: what are you trying to achieve? | 21:24 |
oerheks | first you want to, then you dont | 21:26 |
oerheks | that fai tool mentioned many distros | 21:27 |
hwtinker309elect | l | 22:01 |
Aavar | I tried to install vscode from snap. but when I try to run it I get a grey window that dissapears and the error "mkdir: cannot create directory ‘’: No such file or directory". I have tried to remove the snap and reinstall, but it has the same result | 22:30 |
ravage | try codium | 22:32 |
Aavar | ravage: same error with codium. | 22:33 |
junyx | What's the point of defragmentation? Does it save disk space? | 22:58 |
JanC | the main point is access speed on hard disks (and sometimes it might reduce wear) | 23:01 |
JanC | on SSDs it's almost useless in most cases | 23:02 |
junyx | Thanks JanC | 23:05 |
JanC | basically, HDDs are slow to jump from one location on the disk to another (this is called "seeking"), so when the parts of a file are spread all over the disk, it becomes slow to read/write the file; defragmentation moves all those parts together so that they can be read/written sequentially, which is much faster | 23:10 |
JanC | it's most problematic when a large file is spread in small fragments all over the place, which is something modern filesystems try to avoid as much as possible | 23:11 |
junyx | Thanks JanC | 23:59 |
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