=== pr3sonic is now known as highrate === five618480335 is now known as five61848033 === kai9 is now known as kai [02:43] the 24.04 graphical installer is crashing for me with https://gist.githubusercontent.com/slingamn/6e04954ca367f3d4d3309f71881cb340/raw/801ef45095e19acb5a323ec72c550a113caaf1b2/gistfile1.txt , has anyone seen this before? [02:43] Jul 04 02:27:08 ubuntu gnome-shell[2663]: DING: [xcb] Unknown sequence number while processing queue [02:55] "safe graphics" seeems to have fixed it [03:20] is there a way to force subiquiti to do a MBR install? [03:21] MBR? what is this, 1980s? [03:26] slingamn: i think if you create the partition table before starting the server install you can do that, but i'm not certain. [03:27] gpt/efi is bloat [03:28] thanks [03:28] this system is really old (it's a lga 775 motherboard from...2007?) and my initial install was unbootable [03:29] "no system disk"...i think the bios doesn't like the gpt + bios boot partition [03:29] slingamn: check BIOS of System.. if it has SecureBoot option Disable it.. [03:30] it doesn't [03:30] this is a https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/details/hp-compaq-dc7900-convertible-minitower-pc/3784892 [03:35] that's... old hardware [03:35] yeah :-D just scratching an itch really [03:37] it has a Core 2 Quad Q9500, 8 GB of DDR2, and a Radeon R7 450 4 GB [03:37] quite a large pocket calculator [03:38] very power hungry too [03:38] that said [03:38] slingamn: which OS are you trying to install on it ? [03:38] it ran 22.04 desktop quite smoothly for the proverbial "web browsing and office" workload [03:38] i'm trying to do 24.04 desktop now [03:39] i think precreating the MBR table might have worked [03:39] (it also ran Win10 decently and could even play some games) [03:43] a trick i've used on this generation of hardware is to `cryptsetup reencrypt` the filesystem with adiantum [03:43] or specifically xchacha12,aes-adiantum-plain64 === deepSleep is now known as Guest8741 [03:54] installing an ssd might be the better hack [03:54] oh, i did :-) [03:54] it has a 160 GB SATA SSD [03:55] and also a 1 TB spinnydisk left over from when i bought it [03:56] then i would hope you could use aes-xts-plain [03:56] it's a CPU performance issue [03:56] Core 2's don't have AES-NI [03:57] oh right that came later [03:57] they also don't have POPCNT or SSE4.2 which causes some interesting incompatibilities [03:57] precreating the MBR table worked in the sense that subiquiti did a proper MBR install, but it still won't boot...not sure what the deal is [03:58] i'm going to try 22.04.4 as a sanity check [03:58] where does it get stuck? [03:59] install completes successfully, on reboot the bios prints "No system disk or disk error" [03:59] and it's set to boot off the correct device? [03:59] does the bios boot menu confirm that? [03:59] it doesn't distinguish the drives, but that's a good idea, let me try unplugging the spinnydisk [04:01] btw thanks for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-8.0/+bug/1857584 [04:01] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1857584 in mysql-8.0 (Ubuntu Hirsute) "MySQL X protocol port 33060 listening on network by default" [Undecided, Fix Released] [04:02] hehe, my pleasure. i'm not sure why this got no cve, really [04:04] oh nice [04:04] unplugging the drive fixed it [04:04] this mainboard is bad lol [04:05] maybe if you just remove the boot flag off the partitions on this disk it will be fine? [04:06] i deleted the partition table entirely...this mainboard does a weird thing where it remembers the "storage configuration" [04:06] and if you add or remove a drive, it prompts you to confirm the change [04:06] so i think it somehow got convinced that the spinnydisk was the correct boot drive [04:08] hmm it would probably have to store that in nvram, and shortening the cmos battery with the right jumper might solve it IF it can't be done in the bios setup utility. [04:08] yeah that sounds right [04:08] i think i can just plug the drive back in and it'll work [04:12] that didn't work, but swapping which SATA ports the drives were using did === deepSleep is now known as Guest496 === root is now known as Guest6947 === deepSleep is now known as Guest2064 === deepSleep is now known as Guest4745 === deepSleep is now known as Guest36 === zaki_fl is now known as zaki === deepSleep is now known as Guest4134 === EriC^^48 is now known as EriC^^ === deepSleep is now known as Guest6465 === deepSleep is now known as Guest6394 [06:34] hello [06:35] hello [06:44] hi all, any suggestions about the below? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1519517/fix-boot-device-compatibilities-for-zenbook-14-on-ubuntu === deepSleep is now known as Guest6937 === deepSleep is now known as Guest6685 === deepSleep is now known as Guest5346 === deepSleep is now known as Guest2274 === paran0n1 is now known as paran0n === Alpha is now known as Guest3860 === Guest3860 is now known as Alpha [08:22] is the ubuntu philosophy to always prefer snap when a package is available on both, apt and snap? === fling_ is now known as fling [08:43] no [08:48] cockpit keeps saying upgrades are available when the update manager said they are phased. What does that mean? I mean I know Ubuntu deferred them for any number of reasons, I also know how to get around it. I just don't know why === deepSleep is now known as Guest86 [09:56] !phasedupdates | younder [09:56] younder: Since Ubuntu 21.04, APT may hold back some updates on some systems while they are being phased in. This is called "phased updates". See https://ubottu.com/y/phased and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates for more info. === deepSleep is now known as Guest5048 === EriC^^_ is now known as EriC^^ === five618480332 is now known as five61848033 === Juesto is now known as Juest === bagmay904__ is now known as bagmay904 [11:38] exit [11:57] hi everyone [12:21] Hi all [12:33] hello [12:43] hi [12:44] o [13:24] hi [13:25] hey [13:25] ok [13:25] so I have got a question [13:25] is lubuntu the same safu like ubuntu?=) [13:32] Same, but lxqt simon_ [13:32] Hi os doesn't start [13:32] how can i resolve? [13:32] Guest74: is this a new install? which ubuntu version? where do you get stuck? [13:32] no new [13:33] Guest74: can you give more details? The more you can tell us the better idea we'll get [13:33] mm accel photos settings [13:33] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-mYcblckZr19QhX1U7i0x4Re-lDlH2tD/view?usp=sharing, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-nbBRVAXJHR2Up0GP0mVXdUrfCllTdEl/view?usp=sharing, https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-oJZDOetE1iiiiPW4Tea0qkx-tReN0BP/view?usp=sharing [13:33] thnx [13:33] tomreyn 22.04 [13:33] now i'm from live usb [13:34] os from hd doesn't start [13:34] sem it ask me username and password at start up [13:36] tomreyn i try to purge nvidia [13:36] Guest74: your attachments aren't working for me. Is it booting up to a text console? Did you make any changes recently? [13:36] i tried sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop [13:36] but it doesn't work [13:37] sem they are just photo of the screen [13:37] like this https://images.app.goo.gl/CYBjdc86gMe8zGnw5 [13:38] did you run sudo apt update beforehand? [13:38] sem i didn't any changes, just regular use [13:38] Best of luck -- this page might be useful https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/nvidia-drivers-installation [13:39] What do you mean by "Guest74: tomreyn i try to purge nvidia" [13:40] tomreyn i regularly update all both from "Software" "Ubuntu software" and "Updates and software" which ubuntu automatically suggest me to do [13:41] A person adiviced me to write that command maybe for the graphical card [13:41] ok, but i recommend running sudo apt update whenever you haven't run it that same day, before you want to install software [13:41] sem [13:42] tomreyn i just do it by graphical way [13:42] normally, sure, taht's fine, but right now you're doing it on the shell [13:43] so update apt sources at least once before you try to install anything else [13:43] Guest74: try what tomreyn is saying and let us know if you get any messages [13:43] now i'm from live usb [13:43] tomreyn [13:43] ok [13:43] i have to write it in terminal? [13:44] did you chroot into the on-disk installation from the live system? [13:44] but now i'm on live usb [13:44] are these screenshots from the live usb system or the on-disk system? [13:44] i don't know what is "chroot" [13:44] tomreyn the photos are from istalled ubuntu [13:45] now i'm from live usb because ubuntu doesn't start [13:45] Guest74: if I were you, I'd shut down the liveusb and boot back into the system. It will be easier to fix from the terminal once you login than from the live usb [13:45] You can login on the installed system right? It asks for username and password? [13:46] can i access the terminal referred to installed ubuntu from here? [13:46] Not easily [13:46] because after it's uncomfortable to chat from smartphone [13:46] I understand [13:46] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ [13:46] terminal now [13:47] i think what you mean to say is that the installed ubuntu does not reach the graphical login, but you are able to switch to y TTY and login there and work there using shell commands, right? === gabes222 is now known as gabes22 [13:47] Honestly it will be easier to chat from the smartphone than try and fix it from the liveusb [13:47] can i access from live usb to user@user-X580VN [13:47] ? [13:47] sem [13:47] ok [13:48] i come back from smartphone and now reboot [13:48] Unless tomreyn has a different opinion? [13:48] i agree [13:48] going though chroot will be more difficult than using the smartphone to chat [13:48] @tomrei [13:48] tomreyn i don't know what is TTY [13:48] the terminal [13:48] text interface [13:49] i just ask if i can access position of ubuntu installed from live usb, but sem told it's worst. therefore i come back from smartphone [13:49] sounds like a good decision to me [13:50] ok see u later [13:52] tomreyn: do you think ubuntu-drivers will work for guest74 's situation? [13:54] I came back [13:54] tomreyn sem [13:54] Guest51: are you able to login with your normal username and password? [13:54] sem: possibly. we don'T really know what the issue is, yet. but it might be the issue that the nvidia proprietary driver series needs to be changed. several people seem to have run into such issues lately. [13:55] +1 [13:55] I also tried shift at the start.... , network.... and root (Shell) suggested by lotuspsychj3 [13:55] It ASKED Enter or CTRL+D [13:56] I didn t know What to do [13:56] sem yes [13:56] Usually i just put password at start [13:57] Ok it's good that you can log in. What happens if you run 'sudo apt update' [13:57] Just to see what condition the system is in [13:57] if you can fully boot and switch to the tty from there using ctrl-alt-f... it's actually better than using the recovery console which lotuspsychje pointed you to. [13:58] !tty [13:58] To get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [13:59] Ah good call [13:59] I thought the system had dropped them into a virtual terminal automatically [14:00] that's also possible [14:00] well, not an emulated terminal then, but a real one [14:01] Guest51: so how didto the shell now? did you fully boot then login with username and password on the text interface? or did you do what lotuspsychje suggested - as you just described? [14:01] https://drive.google.com/file/d/10j_6I1lDA90MCQNgyuUKUFz94Ikoc8xV/view?usp=drivesdk [14:01] sem [14:02] tomreyn i don t understand What press forse TTY [14:02] you're already working on tty1 according to this screenshot [14:02] so all good [14:03] you have a fully booted system (just without the graphical desktop) [14:03] you have a PPA configured which does not support your ubuntu release (jammy, 22.04) [14:04] this ppa is nilarimogard/webupd8 [14:04] you need to remove or disable it. [14:05] So what should I do? [14:05] it's configuration will be in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [14:05] look for the configuration file and rename it to *.disabled [14:05] How to do this? [14:05] cd /etc/apt/sources.list.d [14:06] I m just in Black screen [14:06] ls *webupd* [14:06] this will probably list one file? [14:07] With or without asterisks? [14:07] with [14:08] It appears. nilarimogard-ubuntu-webupd8-jammy.list [14:09] and after prompt again [14:09] Now? [14:09] mv nilarimogard* *.disabled [14:09] tomreyn [14:10] does this command print any output? [14:10] Impossible to move [14:11] Permission denied [14:11] try with sudo [14:11] press up cursor key to get the same command again [14:11] then edit it [14:12] May e i wrong same space between the asterisk or words of command? [14:12] Ok [14:12] you have nilarimogard* then a single blank space, then *.disabled [14:13] Now maybe it take the commando, coz none message, just another empty line of prompt command [14:13] ls nilarimogard* [14:13] tomreyn [14:13] does it say its file name ends with .disabled now? [14:14] tomreyn i don t know where to see that [14:15] type the command i just provided: ls nilarimogard* [14:15] that's: L S space nilarimogard* [14:15] Impossible to Access 'nilarimogard*', file or directory doesn't exist [14:15] can you take another scrrenshot [14:17] https://drive.google.com/file/d/10mkJbS4wjAmIcKJ7FIzjCYRBij5fTFam/view?usp=drivesdk [14:17] tomreyn [14:18] please note down this url for later - you should learn at least the very basics of the shell. it's useful! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [14:18] please do: ls *.disabled [14:19] does it show the file there? [14:19] Did i wrong to type What u told me? tomreyn [14:19] i think you typed properly, and the mistake is probably on my end [14:20] Yes, it appears a line with. '*.disabled' [14:20] yes, my mistake, sorry. [14:21] Don't worry, sorry for all the trouble, I don't understand anything about computers [14:21] sudo mv '*.disabled' nilarimogard-ubuntu-webupd8-jammy.list.disabled [14:21] sorry for making you type so much [14:22] you can alternatively just remove the file, you most likely wont need it anyways [14:22] sudo rm -- '*.disabled' [14:23] I don t undestand [14:23] just type this: sudo rm -- '*.disabled' [14:24] I have to do even sudo rm -- '*.disabled' [14:24] is this a question? then i don't know what it means. [14:24] Or just previous one that is sudo mv '*.disabled' nilarimogard-ubuntu-webupd8-jammy.list.disabled [14:24] Guest51: yes, this command will delete the file which is causing your problem [14:25] you can omit this: sudo mv '*.disabled' nilarimogard-ubuntu-webupd8-jammy.list.disabled [14:25] or "skip" rather [14:25] Ok then do i have to type even this command sudo rm -- '*.disabled'? [14:25] yes [14:25] Tell me What IS better [14:26] sudo rm -- '*.disabled' [14:26] i already did [14:26] right [14:26] Tell me u what is better [14:26] sudo rm -- '*.disabled' [14:27] You will know it worked if it "completes silently". Then you can do "ls" to verify that the file isn't there any more [14:27] U Said in alternative [14:27] So i didn t understand [14:27] right, i should not have provided an alternative, this was complicating it for you [14:27] so please pretend as if i did not [14:28] and just run sudo rm -- '*.disabled' [14:28] [16:21:54] sorry for making you type so much [14:28] [16:22:15] you can alternatively just remove the file, you most likely wont need it anyways [14:28] Guest51: I understand. the alternative was to rename the file with the mv command, but that is not any better in this case, just another way [14:29] this is getting a bit tedious [14:30] The command line gets easier over time, but at first every thing is new. It's all part of learning [14:32] Guest51: are you still on it? [14:32] tomreyn yes [14:33] ok. typing sudo rm -- '*.disabled' should not take too long, though [14:34] Excuse me but i have even to use translator at each line, it s so difficiult forse me, i don t understand well the meanings of Your phrases and have to go on and back from transaltor, excuse me [14:34] Photos, drive, etc... All from Phone, excuse me again [14:34] oh ok, that's fine then [14:35] Anyway it Said impossible to remove, file or directory doesn t exist [14:36] tomreyn [14:36] good. now run sudo apt update and post another screenshot [14:36] Hello [14:37] How can I disable /cdrom from appearing in apt update? [14:38] momken: comment out the respective lines on top of /etc/apt/sources.list [14:38] or, if you're using a graphical desktop, you can use the update-manager configuration tool to disable this source [14:39] i forgot what this tool is called exactly [14:39] https://drive.google.com/file/d/11-jaf9XMg1Ar7q9FqiZihYIjO8oJxMxr/view?usp=drivesdk [14:40] tomreyn [14:40] Guest51: okay, apt is happy now, good! now install those pending updates: sudo apt full-upgrade [14:40] tomreyn ok, after? [14:41] tomreyn it worked, thanks dude [14:41] Guest51: it's not likely that this fixed your graphics issue, yet, but to be sure, do a reboot. [14:42] momken: you're welcome [14:43] tomreyn it finishes [14:43] Now? [14:44] Guest51: it's not likely that this fixed your graphics issue, yet, but to be sure, do a reboot. [14:44] CTRL+ALT+CANC? [14:44] tomreyn [14:45] ctrl-alt-delete or type sudo reboot [14:46] tomreyn [14:46] No works [14:46] :-( [14:47] It request me again login [14:47] Textual user and pass [14:47] this was to be expected [14:47] login [14:47] then sudo apt purge nvidia* [14:47] Done [14:47] don't miss the asterisk [14:48] done [14:48] sem: your turn ;) [14:48] Heh alright here is what we'll try next ... [14:48] Updates, installed, to be remove and not updtared are all with "0" [14:49] **updated [14:49] tomreyn now? [14:50] Guest0: sem will provide the next steps [14:50] Guest0: just to make sure we are on the same understanding, we successfully updated the computer and removed all drivers that didn't work [14:50] @sem now? [14:50] Guest0: now our task is to reinstall a graphics driver and reboot, and hopefully that will work ok [14:51] How? [14:51] Guest0: first, are you able to translate this page, and we'll follow it together: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/nvidia-drivers-installation [14:52] Oh My God, so long page [14:52] First do this command and take a picture: sudo ubuntu-drivers list [14:52] It's ok, we won't need all of it [14:53] Please tell me What to do because page is long and complicated and often translator is imprecise [14:54] I also have some problems at My eyes :-( [14:54] Guest0 I'll walk you through it, don't worry [14:56] Guest0: First do this command and take a picture: sudo ubuntu-drivers list [14:57] I'll be right back [14:58] https://drive.google.com/file/d/110novDDO9WBf62vp-vhp1pCsU4R8JN9l/view?usp=drivesdk [14:59] sem [14:59] Ok [15:00] Ok reading [15:02] Ok, next we will try the automatic installer, which should auto detect which graphics card you have and install the correct driver. Do this command and take a picture: sudo ubuntu-drivers install [15:04] So difficult for me take and share photo each time, when possible to avoid tell it me pls [15:04] Ok, in that case, [15:05] Run the command and just let me know what messages you get === thegodsq- is now known as thegodsquirrel [15:05] Anyway so much Lines, so the first ones i cannot show u [15:05] The pictures help a lot [15:05] Yes [15:05] I know [15:06] Too many lines, only the last ones are visible, is this a problem? [15:06] sem [15:07] Should be ok if I can get the overall picture [15:07] A lot of lines is sometimes normal [15:07] And usually the most important ones are at the end [15:10] I'll be right back again [15:11] https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-04R53W0KtFZfTNqGRo9449ppl5726I8/view?usp=drivesdk [15:12] Ok reading [15:12] sem [15:12] Ok everything looks good. So now, cross your fingers and do: sudo reboot [15:12] 🤞 [15:14] Not works [15:14] Again textual login [15:15] Ok, that means we have to install a different driver, but we can do a little faster now [15:15] If there are long operations to do i have to go out [15:16] But i can remain some other minutes [15:16] Ok, in that case I'll tell you the outline first: we'll look up which driver your graphics card needs. What is your graphics card called? [15:16] Once we know, we can use ubuntu-drivers to install that driver specifically [15:17] I just Wanna know. If i want to install again all Ubuntu, do i have to create a new pendrive with the latest Version from Ubuntu.com site or using that one i already have but i createt it more than one year ago [15:17] Either way will work, but it's better to create a new one with the latest version [15:18] It might solve your problem to reinstall the latest version if you want to do it that way [15:18] I guess Nvidia geforce GTX [15:19] Ok, do this: lspci -knnd ::0300 | nc termbin.com 9999 [15:19] This will give more information about the gfx card [15:19] Yes but i always updated Ubuntu and all software [15:20] This is a weird problem for sure [15:21] But not uncommon with nvidia [15:21] Intel Corporation HD Graphics 630 [8086:591b] (rev 4) [15:23] Subsystem: Asustek computer inc. HD graphics 630 [1043:1b20] [15:23] Looks like it's not seeing the graphics card at all [15:23] Kernel driver in use: 1915 [15:23] Kernel modules: i95 [15:24] Maybe there is a problem with your hardware :/ [15:24] Not 1915 before, but "kernel driver in use: i915" [15:24] sem why? [15:25] The problem is lspci should show you your nvidia gfx card if the system detected it [15:25] Before Intel corporation there are other infos i forgot to write [15:26] So if it is not detected, that might be a problem with the hardware? Does anything else say nvidia [15:26] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300] [15:26] Maybe someone else will have a suggestion... I'm not sure what to do [15:26] No [15:27] Hopefully your graphics card is ok and there is something else we can do [15:27] Ok no problems [15:27] Thanks sem [15:27] But at this point, your computer is not detecting the graphics card for whatever reason [15:28] If i install again Ubuntu formatting, will i resolve === pushkarnk1 is now known as pushkarnk [15:29] If I install Ubuntu from scratch, will it solve the problem? [15:29] sem [15:31] Are u there sem? [15:34] Back [15:35] If it is a hardware problem, reinstalling won't help [15:36] But you can use the live-usb to test ... It might not work. But if you run that lspci command in the live usb and you see the nvidia gfx card, then reinstalling may fix it [15:38] Ok i m accessing by live usb [15:41] sem [15:41] I just wanted to understand how to redo the USB pendrive to be able to install Ubuntu with the latest version since now the operating system doesn't work [15:41] https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop [15:42] from here i download the file to create the usb for install ubuntu again totally [15:42] but now i'm from the same usb i should use for the installation, so i don't know how to do :-( [15:43] What system are you using to create the USB? Can you use another computer? [15:43] i just have another old pc with lubuntu [15:43] but i don't know if it works properly and good [15:44] the firts time i create the pendrive usb to install ubuntu i did it from windows [15:44] guide says: What you’ll need [15:44] A laptop or PC with at least 25GB of storage space. [15:44] A flash drive (12GB or above recommended). [15:44] i just have another pendrive of 8 GB not 12 GB [15:44] :-( [15:45] https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/install-ubuntu-desktop#1-overview [15:45] Hmm, 8 gb may be ok [15:46] I would try it anyway [15:46] the current version is 24.04. [15:46] Why didn't you update it when I was using the operating system which was 22.04? [15:46] i always did all updates [15:46] in 3 ways [15:46] the app "Software" with coloured icon [15:46] upgrade path LTS > LTS is not out yet. [15:47] In my experience it doesn't update to major versions on its own [15:47] The app "Ubuntu software" with orange icon [15:47] when 24.04.1 comes out, august. [15:47] and by Updates and software that ubuntu was suggesting me automatically [15:47] only 23.10 > 24.04 is out. [15:48] ok oerheks thanks [15:49] sem thanks a lot for all your work [15:49] i ll try tomorrow or when i can, to reinstal ubuntu by creating new pendrive usb with 24.04 [15:50]