[06:37] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> 👌then can give a try to prove the theory ☺️
[07:00] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> will wait till everything finished then can give a try ..
[10:45] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> I have forked/renamed sources for kirigami-addons, kwayland and libkscreen preety much done if we need them to ease landing of Plasma 6
[10:46] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> nice, thanks
[10:47] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> kaccounts-integration, and signond may have been sidestepped by not building kf6-purpose with option kaccounts I think
[10:47] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> as long as we are happy with not having the online accounts KCM in plasma for a bit
[10:48] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> @RikMills I am going to have a pile of uploads for you later. SRU's I need to fix version and they never got uploaded, stupid packageset and my inability to do my job.
[10:48] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> sure
[10:49] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Yeah, we have enough things to make sure works without adding that painful stack.
[10:49] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> on plasma 6 ibqaccessibilityclient in ubuntu now has a duel build for Qt5 and Qt6, so that is not a problem here
[10:50] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> I think bismuth can be killed as it will be useless for plasma 6 and seems no upstream port
[10:51] <mparillo> As far as the online accounts KCM, my primary use case was GDrive integration, and that has been unreliable for years. 
[10:52] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Yeah, we dropped kio-gdrive off the default install a while back
[10:53] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> For an interim release I think we can sacrifice a few things to get plasma in
[10:54] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> FYi, Debian have only plasma-workspace and plasma-desktop left to package, and I think they are WIP
[10:55] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Yeah, I think arraybolt is doing the copyright for Deltaone on those.
[10:55] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Rather him than me! :D
[10:56] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Right?!?! lol
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:53] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> @RikMills https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/angelfish/+ref/kubuntu_noble_archive angelfish is ready.
[11:59] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> I have been asking for our packageset to be updated for upload rights for months now and continued to be ignored. It just occurred to me that I am not going to be able to upload much of anything with qt6 stuff. I am feeling a bit defeated.
[12:00] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> gbp-archive only works for things that are UNRELEASED in the changelog (re @sgmoore: @RikMills https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/angelfish/+ref/kubuntu_noble_archive angelfish is ready.)
[12:01] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> gbp-archive worked fine. It got rejected because the sighner doesn't have rights to upload
[12:01] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> story of my life
[12:02] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> I mean it now has noble, so I can't use gbp-archive to prepare the upload (re @sgmoore: gbp-archive worked fine. It got rejected because the sighner doesn't have rights to upload)
[12:03] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> oh, Simon never complained about that. I will remove the noble and tag. Apologies.
[12:04] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Yeah, it can be worked around, but it is a faff
[12:04] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> he probably doesn't use ka
[12:05] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> true
[12:07] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Fixed
[12:11] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> @RikMills also going to need oracular uploads.. :( will fix the repo.
[12:13] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> is profile angelfish /usr/bin/angelfish flags=(unconfined) really all that is needed for the profile?
[12:14] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Well I had it more restrictive, but things didn't work. So I looked at all the gnome apps canonical did and that is what they had...
[12:15] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Nice. :)
[12:15] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> lol
[12:17] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> angelfish uploaded
[12:18] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> thank you, oracular archive is ready.
[12:25] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> KF6? (re @sgmoore: thank you, oracular archive is ready.)
[12:27] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> kf6 ppa doesnt have pub key
[12:30] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> It does, but the weaker one is now rejected in oracular (re @myfenris: kf6 ppa doesnt have pub key)
[12:32] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> uploaded (re @sgmoore: thank you, oracular archive is ready.)
[12:41] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> @fenris edit the ppas source file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[12:41] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> owh its rejected .. (re @RikMills: It does, but the weaker one is now rejected in oracular)
[12:42] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> W: GPG error: https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks6/ubuntu oracular InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: E4DFEC907DEDA4B8A670E8042836CB0A8AC93F7A (untrusted public key algorithm: rsa1024) The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 17FB29293721A2CD
[12:42] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> E: The repository 'https://ppa.launchpadcontent.net/kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks6/ubuntu oracular InRelease' is not signed.
[12:43] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> to which key to edit? (re @RikMills: @fenris edit the ppas source file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d)
[12:44] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> replace the pgp signed bloc with this: (re @myfenris: to which key to edit?)
[12:46] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> https://irc-attachments.kde.org/87af4fda/ppasig.txt
[12:46] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> make sure to keep the one space indent
[12:46] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> launchpad admins are working to fix this, but it is taking a while
[12:47] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> I ran into this a few days ago, which is why I know how to work around it
[12:48] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> thanks
[12:48] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> but it would not trigger any update/upgrade :)
[12:49] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> temp workaround works (re @RikMills: I ran into this a few days ago, which is why I know how to work around it)
[12:51] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> on purpose? or need to wait for the plasma6 too (re @myfenris: but it would not trigger any update/upgrade :))
[12:51] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> on purpose? or need to wait for the plasma6 packages too (re @myfenris: but it would not trigger any update/upgrade :))
[12:52] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> If you have any frameworks kf6 packages installed, they would upgrade (what is built so far) (re @myfenris: on purpose? or need to wait for the plasma6 packages too)
[12:52] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> If you don't have any installed, then it will do nothing
[12:53] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> for sure i don't have any kf6 🙈
[12:53] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> so need to install separately ... co-exist kf5 n kf6?
[12:54] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> /me blurry
[12:54] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> kf5 and kf6 frameworks can live side by side
[12:54] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> owh
[12:54] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> same goes to plasma6 later?
[12:54] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> it is plasma that won't be able to
[12:55] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> owh i see (re @RikMills: it is plasma that won't be able to)
[12:55] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> which makes it difficult to land
[12:55] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> 🙈 (re @RikMills: which makes it difficult to land)
[12:56] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> because a lot of 3rd party packages have decide to depnd on parts of plasma 5
[12:56] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> so hows neon does that ? remove the 3rd party packages?
[12:56] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> they don't care if they break 3rd party things
[12:56] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> owh
[12:57] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> so kubuntu will removed the 3rd party thingy or whats the workaround?
[12:59] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> in order of preference a) get them ported to Qt6/Kf5 if possible, (b) make a new source of the plasma 5 package they depend on so it can co-exist with the plasma 6 one, (c) remove it (re @myfenris: so kubuntu will removed the 3rd party thingy or whats the workaround?)
[13:05] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> The team need to decide it I guess? Is it's the 3rd party has long list or crucial apps to kde/kubuntu user's? Can't we choose (c) 1st while they do (a) & (b)?
[13:05] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> Just my 2 cent
[13:08] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> For some. Some however are part of other flavours core packages. e.g. ukiu packages that are part of ubuntu-kylin
[13:09] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> I see , noted .. they acknowledged about this right? (re @RikMills: For some. Some however are part of other flavours core packages. e.g. ukiu packages that are part of ubuntu-kylin)
[13:10] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Yes. They don't have any QT6 port in the pipeline
[13:10] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> so looking like (b)
[13:11] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> 🫣 (re @RikMills: Yes. They don't have any QT6 port in the pipeline)
[13:26] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> @RikMills , does experimental ppa ok to test?
[13:27] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> or until the discover solved ?
[13:27] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> No, it is missing plasma-workspace and plasma-desktop (re @myfenris: @RikMills , does experimental ppa ok to test?)
[13:27] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> it will break all the things...
[13:28] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> 🫡 (re @RikMills: it will break all the things...)
[13:38] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> need to wait for this right? (re @RikMills: FYi, Debian have only plasma-workspace and plasma-desktop left to package, and I think they are WIP)
[13:40] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> At least that. Maybe even longer, as things like dependencies may need fixing.
[13:40] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> We will say when we think testing is ok
[13:40] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> @RikMills git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/falkon noble ready
[13:41] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> btw, do dolphin/kio has similar to this : https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2024/04/set-up-onedrive-file-access-in-ubuntu
[13:41] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Not ware of it
[13:41] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> *aware
[13:41] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> ok (re @sgmoore: @RikMills git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/falkon noble ready)
[13:45] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> and so is oracular now
[13:50] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> @RikMills git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/ghostwriter noble is ready
[13:53] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> @sgmoore I guess oracular uploads as well
[13:54] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> yeah oracular as well please
[14:03] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> @sgmoore falkon in oracular archive is 24.05.1-1 but your upload is 24.01.75-1build6
[14:10] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Oh, must have had a new release in Debian. How do I do that sync thing?
[14:11] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> ka-sync-archive
[14:11] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> OK thanks
[14:11] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> then commit the changed files
[14:42] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> @RikMills falkon fixed I hope... what a mess, I guess I have to PR that in debian? I am not sure they have the same userns issue as us though...
[14:43] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> They didn't when this first came up
[14:44] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> I reckon they still don't as the maintainer seems pretty active.
[14:45] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> oh well, now I know to sync before anything haha. thank you
[14:48] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> @sgmoore am I missing something? oracular branches are still at 24.01.75
[14:48] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> umm
[14:51] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> I am clearly missing something. it is syncing to noble. /me checks ka-sync-archive flags
[14:52] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Distribution %s is not either 'debian' or 'ubuntu' guess I need to update something
[14:53] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> also long as your ka knows that oracular is the dev branch, it should sync that
[14:54] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> is your ka from git or a ppa?
[14:55] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> How do I tell it that? updating ka-metadata didn't help. hmm not sure on this lappy.
[14:56] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> do which ka-sync-archive
[14:57] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> looks like I built the deb myself from git. But that was awhile ago, building new deb with the 5 million changes lol
[14:59] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> I'm doing Option 3 for here: https://git.launchpad.net/ka/tree/doc/source/INSTALL.rst
[15:00] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> so I just have to do a git pull in ~/ka/ to be up to date with git master
[15:00] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> I'm doing Option 3 from here: https://git.launchpad.net/ka/tree/doc/source/INSTALL.rst
[15:01] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> nice! will set that up to avoid cases such as today.
[15:01] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> in there is conf/defaultrc:ubuntu-unstable-name = oracular
[15:02] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> which I think is where ka-sync-archive gets its default
[15:02] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> k
[15:03] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> if your run git master, you can also bug santa_ about fixes and features needed 😉
[15:10] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> ok... so now that worked lol, we have a kf6 package... we aren't ready for that I reckon.
[15:11] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> or are we?
[15:12] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> If someone wants to go to the trouble of converting the packaging, and depends are available, then we could
[15:12] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> it looks like it synced experiemental. I am so confused.
[15:13] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Wait... maybe I synced that
[15:13] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> So many packages to remember
[15:13] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> ok so I just need to re-do my apparmor stuff and call it a day on this one.
[15:15] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> :)
[15:43] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> @RikMills falkon oracular ready
[15:47] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Going to have to do this manually, as the dingbat of a debian developer (not in qt/kde team) who maintains falkon refuses to use the release tars (re @sgmoore: @RikMills falkon oracular ready)
[15:48] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> yeah he uses very odd versions too. it is a pain
[15:56] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> uploaded (re @sgmoore: @RikMills falkon oracular ready)
[16:02] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Better set an alarm on my phone for session 2
[16:02] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Of the flavour sync
[16:03] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Well this sync thing was a very valuable lesson for today. Kmail had changes too.
[16:03] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Yeah me too
[16:04] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> @sgmoore falkon FTBFS
[16:04] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> cp debian/falkon-apparmor debian/falkon/etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.falkon
[16:04] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> cp: cannot stat 'debian/falkon-apparmor': No such file or directory
[16:05] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Oops
[16:06] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Pushed missing files @RikMills sorry bout that
[16:07] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> It happens
[16:08] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> but needs a changelog (re @sgmoore: Pushed missing files @RikMills sorry bout that)
[16:08] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> K
[16:09] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Pushed
[16:12] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> and uploaded
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[18:07] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> @RikMills git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-welcome both noble and oracular ready.
[18:22] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> oracular barch is versioned 5.27.11-0ubuntu3.1 (re @sgmoore: @RikMills git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-welcome both noble and oracular ready.)
[18:23] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> oracular branch is versioned 5.27.11-0ubuntu3.1 (re @sgmoore: @RikMills git+ssh://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/plasma-welcome both noble and oracular ready.)
[18:23] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> should be ubuntu4
[18:23] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> fixing
[18:23] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Bah, sorry
[18:25] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> np
[18:29] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> uploaded
[18:47] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> sorry , where can i monitor the debian wip for plasma-desktop & plasma-workspace ;
[18:50] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/kde/plasma-workspace/-/tree/debian/experimental?ref_type=heads
[18:50] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/kde/plasma-desktop/-/tree/debian/experimental?ref_type=heads
[18:50] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> thanks ...
[19:06] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> desktop - error at compiling , workspace - error with dependencies ... am i read it correctly?
[19:07] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> i read it at build jobs
[19:10] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Ignore that. That is just an automatic ci build which is going to fail on dependencies and other things.
[19:11] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> Real things happen when it is uploaded to experimental repo
[19:11] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> sure ... just refreshing my CI knowledge
[19:16] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> its rusty 😏