[11:45] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> meh, I am getting faf for reducing the apparmor profiles down to just userns.... yet that is what they did for gnome.
[11:50] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> If that is the case, then either you will be proved right, or canonical people doing gnome will get an earful ;) (re @sgmoore: meh, I am getting faf for reducing the apparmor profiles down to just userns.... yet that is what they did for gnome.)
[11:51] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> lol
[11:51] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> I guess I should find the correct solution.
[11:52] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> @sgmoore Can you point to some examples in gnome packages?
[12:06] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> hmm. in the apparmor package, there are 91 profiles that do this!
[12:07] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> already
[12:07] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Ah yes, that's where I found it.
[12:07] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Robie is giving me grief. I will link apparmor package.
[12:09] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:52] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> @sgmoore currently being discussed in #ubuntu-security on IRC
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[13:03] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2024/07/09/%23ubuntu-security.html
[13:04] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> gone quiet now waiting for replies from those pinged
[13:05] <jozo_> RikMills: compare current plasmashell profile to eg. opera/chromium
[13:05] <sgmoore> The apparmor folks write the plasmashell profile, not us.
[13:06] <sgmoore> wrote.
[13:07] <jozo_> I know that. but I disabled it cos it too restritive. (not verified..)
[13:07] <sgmoore> This is what I get for following the herd. I should have just tried to solve my issue with multiarch.
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[13:10] <Jozo> If I remember correctly current plasmashell profile does not work with spotify (snap). I can test that.
[13:13] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> wow, that would explain my issues with my Elisa snap I bet.
[13:13] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> plasmashell also has the hard coded path! https://git.launchpad.net/apparmor/tree/profiles/apparmor.d/plasmashell
[13:13] <Jozo> dbus-daemon[2511]: apparmor="DENIED" operation="dbus_method_call"  bus="session" path="/org/mpris/MediaPlayer2" interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" name=":1.4088" mask="receive" pid=3512860 label="snap.spotify.spotify" peer_pid=2045540 peer_label="plasmashell"
[13:16] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> shouldn't include <abstractions/dbus-session> allow that? ( I didn't write plasmashell ) I wonder if my include multiarch is somehow related in with that includes are not being included somehow?
[13:23] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> Unfortunately, I have to leave for a few hours. Will catch up when I get back home.
[13:23] <Jozo> no idea. what if dropping all other than userns? like chromium on other browsers.
[13:24] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> lol, that is what I am trying to do and I am getting major grief.
[13:24] <IrcsomeBot> <sgmoore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/noble/+source/plasma-welcome/+bug/2065915
[13:24] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2065915 in tellico (Ubuntu Noble) "[SRU] Fix hard coded path in apparmor profiles." [Undecided, New]
[13:31] <Jozo> BTW. aa-disable do not work when some profile has error... like ERROR: Include file /etc/apparmor.d/abstractions/ubuntu-browsers.d/firefox not found
[13:40] <Jozo> I tried to install KDE6 today (with plasma-workspace and plasma-desktop), but not any luck. something still missing...
[13:55] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> 👆🏻 (re @RikMills: https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/kde/plasma-workspace/-/tree/debian/experimental?ref_type=heads
[13:55] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/kde/plasma-desktop/-/tree/debian/experimental?ref_type=heads)
[13:56] <RikMills> plasma 6 is not ready yet
[13:57] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> people can't wait for it :) (re @IrcsomeBot: <RikMills> plasma 6 is not ready yet)
[13:58] <RikMills> debian have't finished packaging plasma-workspace and plasma desktop yet
[13:59] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> i know .. just saying it .... 🤞🏻
[14:00] <RikMills> even when they have, it might be a while before plasma 6 is installable without breaking systems
[14:06] <Jozo> RikMills: I know :)
[14:06] <Jozo> https://launchpad.net/~kai-kasurinen/+archive/ubuntu/klop
[14:10] <RikMills> ah, I should have put my plasma 6 builds somewhere more secret :P
[14:44] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> can mixed n match? (re @IrcsomeBot: <Jozo> https://launchpad.net/~kai-kasurinen/+archive/ubuntu/klop)
[14:45] <Jozo> myfenris: ?
[14:46] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> that is your ppa @ rikmills? (re @IrcsomeBot: <Jozo> myfenris: ?)
[14:46] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> i meant , can mixed it with ppa experimental + klop 😄 (re @IrcsomeBot: <Jozo> myfenris: ?)
[14:47] <Jozo> myfenris: Yes. my ppa depends experimental. But that not just work yet.
[14:50] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> u have? 😈 (re @IrcsomeBot: <RikMills> ah, I should have put my plasma 6 builds somewhere more secret :P)
[14:51] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> No. Too late now :P
[14:52] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> https://irc-attachments.kde.org/3b33aa8c/file_76595.webp
[14:54] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> https://irc-attachments.kde.org/60d708ee/file_76596_tgs.webp
[14:55] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> no movement yet ... 🤒 (re @RikMills: https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/kde/plasma-workspace/-/tree/debian/experimental?ref_type=heads
[14:55] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/kde/plasma-desktop/-/tree/debian/experimental?ref_type=heads)
[14:57] <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> The people doing it have paid jobs to do (re @myfenris: no movement yet ... 🤒)
[15:32] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> 🫡 indeed (re @RikMills: The people doing it have paid jobs to do)
[16:18] <Jozo> plasma-workspace-data needs breaks plasma-workspace or something....
[16:27] <RikMills> Jozo: thanks. I will see what is there when debian tag and upload
[16:30] <Jozo> And propaply needs updating all apps in same run... :)
[16:34] <Jozo> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c23DcGKkhx/
[16:41] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/1335gj5/mouse_feels_laggy_and_slow_on_wayland_compared_to/ <— any comment / thought about this?
[16:43] <RikMills> Jozo: probably not updating that many apps at the same time. More likely doing some things to make sure the current versions can co-exist with plasma 6
[16:46] <Jozo> Ah, I propably need compile some packages. eg powerdevil
[16:48] <RikMills> I'm more concerned with why some of KF5 kf5 5.116.0 is being removed
[16:51] <RikMills> I guess I should set up a VM. Install every frameworks 5 package. Then install every frameworks 6 package to make sure they can really co-exist
[16:53] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> got any metadata packages that can trigger to install kf6 with the same installed kf5? (re @IrcsomeBot: <RikMills> I guess I should set up a VM. Install every frameworks 5 package. Then install every frameworks 6 package to make sure they can really co-exist)
[16:53] <RikMills> no
[16:54] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> manually 1by1?
[16:55] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> maybe can try with 1 package 1st right?
[16:57] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> Installing:
[16:57] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris>   kf6-breeze-icon-theme
[16:57] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> REMOVING:
[16:57] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris>   breeze             elisa        kubuntu-desktop           plasma-desktop      plasma-widgets-addons  plasma-workspace-wayland
[16:57] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris>   breeze-icon-theme  kinfocenter  kubuntu-settings-desktop  plasma-integration  plasma-workspace       sddm-theme-breeze
[16:57] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> Summary:
[16:58] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris>   Upgrading: 0, Installing: 1, Removing: 12, Not Upgrading: 0
[16:58] <IrcsomeBot> <myfenris> so the theory is not right 🙈
[16:59] <Jozo> at least plasma-framework seems seems suspicious. I don't see what replaces it....
[17:00] <RikMills> Jozo: it got moved to plasma and renamed to libplasma
[17:01] <RikMills> IIRC
[17:04] <Jozo> but plasma-framework does not seems provided any new libplasma packages. and looks like some other packages depends it.
[17:05] <RikMills> a bug part of your breakage seems to be due to
[17:05] <RikMills> Package: kglobalacceld
[17:05] <RikMills> Architecture: any
[17:05] <RikMills> Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${shlibs:Depends},
[17:05] <RikMills> Breaks: libkf5globalaccel-bin,
[17:05] <RikMills> Replaces: libkf5globalaccel-bin,
[17:06] <RikMills> .
[17:07] <RikMills> removing libkf5globalaccel-bin break at lot of qt5/kf5 things
[17:07] <RikMills> *breaks a lot
[17:07] <RikMills> https://dpaste.com/3X45YVELC
[17:10] <Jozo> oh
[17:12] <RikMills> the only file that conflicts (i.e.P
[17:12] <RikMills> urgh
[17:12] <RikMills> i.e. is in both packages is:
[17:12] <RikMills>  /usr/lib/systemd/user/plasma-kglobalaccel.service
[17:14] <RikMills> maybe we can do a patch so the qt5/kf5 one uses /usr/lib/systemd/user/plasma-kglobalaccel5.service 
[17:14] <RikMills> that would mean the nasty breaks/replaces could be dropped
[17:21] <RikMills> I think patching those two should do it: https://i.imgur.com/8d0YORc.png
[17:25] <RikMills> not that simple, but will work it out
[18:58] <arraybolt3> https://i.imgur.com/66PfLCO.png
[18:58] <arraybolt3> RikMills, sgmoore: ^ this is what I did to Oracular most recently
[18:58] <arraybolt3> does this actually look good to you? If I SRU that into Noble, do you think that will be good?
[18:59] <arraybolt3> Or should I have retained the white background inside the gear?
[19:01] <RikMills> lgtm
[19:14] <RikMills> arraybolt3: how does it look with our light colour scheme?
[19:20] <arraybolt3> exactly like you'd expect, lemme get a screenshot
[19:20] <arraybolt3> also sorry to miss the ping
[19:21] <arraybolt3> RikMills: https://i.imgur.com/gdBw4Dy.png
[19:23] <RikMills> lgtm^2 then
[20:07] <arraybolt3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-settings/+bug/2072149 SRU paperwork donw here
[20:07] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2072149 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Oracular) "Kubuntu logo in System Settings has a white background where it should be transparent" [High, Confirmed]
[20:07] <arraybolt3> *done
[20:11] <arraybolt3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-settings/+bug/2072163 SRU paperwork done here too.
[20:11] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2072163 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Noble) "Color scheme for Calamares is wrong" [High, Confirmed]
[21:13] <RikMills> Jozo: I think in a few hrs, you should see quite a bit less packages being removed
[21:13]  * RikMills has fingers crossed