[01:07] hi there [01:07] RikMills: it's really late, so I'm going to drop here some notes from wheever you can read: [01:08] - I have been pushing my pending changes to fw 6.4 to git and I have rebuilt the corresponding packages in the PPA [01:10] - I have reintroduced the purpose icons; they don't actually conflict with the ones in the kf5 counterpart, all the problem boils down to the fact that they have put uneeded breaks/replaces in debian [01:10] - I have finished the thing with kirigami using the new tarball [01:11] - the 6.4 packages in general are imo good enough to be uploaded to the archive [01:55] BONUS TRACK: [01:55] iron hand links for whenever 6.4 gets into oracular: [01:56] - https://ironhand.tritemio.org/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks6_archive/6.4_oracular_retry_builds.pdf [01:56] - https://ironhand.tritemio.org/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks6_archive/6.4_oracular_retry_builds.pdf [01:57] wip working notes for fw 6.4, also interesting for you imho: [01:57] - https://git.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/+git/fw6_working_notes/tree/fw_6.4_ubuntu_packaging_working_notes.txt [01:58] last but not least, interesting for those of you using LXD for containers/vms for devel/testing/whatever: [01:59] - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+bug/2046486 [01:59] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Launchpad bug 2046486 in systemd (Ubuntu) "units with credentials fail in LXD containers" [High, Triaged] [01:59] - https://github.com/canonical/lxd/issues/13631 [01:59] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Issue 13631 in canonical/lxd "Enable `security.nesting` by default for unprivileged containers and modern enough images" [Open] [02:01] to "summarize" the contents of these 2 links: if you have an LXD container with oracular, you have to set security.nesting or systemd by misbehave so badly, you won't even have network [02:01] good night from the city of Gotham [05:50] im not enabling security.nesting .. (re @IrcsomeBot: to "summarize" the contents of these 2 links: if you have an LXD container with oracular, you have to set security.nesting or systemd by misbehave so badly, you won't even have network) [05:51] so far my lxd network working fine [07:29] santa_: thanks for all that. will have a detailed read later [09:52] any ninjas can help to package this too ? https://invent.kde.org/bernardogn/kio-onedrive [11:03] plasma 6 in experimental ppa now rebuilding against frameworks 6 6.4.0 in frameworks 6 ppa [11:18] Is this still a will-definitely-break-your-system kind of thing? [11:24] morning [11:25] correction: the second iron link was suposed to be: https://ironhand.tritemio.org/ka-iron-hand_reports/frameworks6_archive/6.4_oracular_proposed_migration.pdf [11:34] santa_: plasma-desktop FTBFS against fw 6.4 [11:35] is it okay to test after rebuild ? (re @IrcsomeBot: plasma 6 in experimental ppa now rebuilding against frameworks 6 6.4.0 in frameworks 6 ppa) [11:36] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+sourcepub/16265662/+listing-archive-extra [11:38] 🫡 [11:39] RikMills: I see, I'm not completely sure it's related to fw 6.4, but could be, it's failing to link things with ld [11:39] plasma things [11:41] RikMills: the interesting part of the build log: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/PnTkxRYxgc/ [11:50] santa_: looks at what packages changed since succesful build [11:50] *looking [11:50] ggc 2ubuntu1 -> 3ubuntu1 [11:51] glibc 2.39-3.1ubuntu2 -> 2.39-3.1ubuntu3 [11:53] qt6-declarative 6.6.2+dfsg-3 -> 6.6.2+dfsg-4 [11:53] gcc seems like a better candidate [11:54] but at some point today I think I'm going to rebuild the plasma packages against 6.4 and 6.3 [11:55] e-c-m 6.4 is a good candidate for culprit as well [11:58] santa_: the 6.4 changelog says this is the only e-c-m change https://invent.kde.org/frameworks/extra-cmake-modules/-/commit/ad895935515dc45121b86bb54eff4269e0cdce21 [11:58] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Commit ad89593 in frameworks/extra-cmake-modules "Avoid spurious message about appstreamtest" [11:58] so it must be something else [11:58] atmn I've started the test rebuilds against fw 6.4 of whats' in the archive, starting with fw5 [11:59] santa_: the new gcc is still in proposed, so I could trun off proposed in the ppa and retry the build? [11:59] https://groomlake.tritemio.org/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp3/ubuntu-exp3_status_frameworks.html [11:59] RikMills: sure, and at some point when I wil wake up completely I wil build plasma 6 both against 6.4 and 6.3 [11:59] * will [12:05] Hi all [12:11] santa_: still failed same way with proposed disabled === Kuraokami is now known as WrathOfAchilles [12:41] santa_: but disabling the frameworka6 ppa and retrying results in a succesful build [12:41] https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/experimental/+build/28651618 [12:53] RikMills: try this patch please: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-desktop/-/merge_requests/2347 [12:53] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- Merge 2347 in plasma/plasma-desktop "[kcm/keyboard] Add missing GENERATE_MOC to kconfig_add_kcfg_files" [Merged] [12:54] santa_: I am actually in the process of adding that :P [12:54] hahaha [12:54] alright, go for it [12:55] that seems like a good candiate to fix the thing given the linking error in the build log [12:57] yes, that one stood out when I went looking at upstream commits [12:57] Not upgrading: [12:57] kde-config-tablet ksystemstats libweather-ion7 plasma-systemmonitor plasma-vault plasma-welcome [12:57] REMOVING: [12:57] kgamma5 kubuntu-desktop kuserfeedback-doc libkf5screen-bin plasma-desktop plasma-workspace sddm-theme-breeze [12:57] kinfocenter kubuntu-settings-desktop libkdecorations2-5v5 libkscreenlocker5 plasma-widgets-addons plasma-workspace-wayland [12:57] experimental ppa [12:57] santa_: uploaded to ppa [12:59] is it still WIP @RikMills ? (re @myfenris: Not upgrading: [12:59] kde-config-tablet ksystemstats libweather-ion7 plasma-systemmonitor plasma-vault plasma-welcome [12:59] REMOVING: [12:59] kgamma5 kubuntu-desktop kuserfeedback-doc libkf5screen-bin plasma-desktop plasma-workspace sddm-theme-breeze [12:59] kinfocenter kubuntu-settings-desktop libkdecorations2-5v5 libkscreenlocker5 plasma-widgets-addons plasma-workspace-wayland) [12:59] very very very WIP (re @myfenris: is it still WIP @RikMills ?) [13:00] It is not at the stage yet where I am even test upgrading in a VM [13:01] 🫡 [13:08] santa_: that patch worked :) [13:08] RikMills: yeah, I've just seen that [13:09] santa_: shame debian aren't updated to 6.1.2 [13:10] but I will probablt test build that in another ppa, and update it as soon as plasma syncs are through Ubuntu NEW [13:10] *probably [13:11] I will likely upload fw 6.4.0 later today [13:11] ack [13:12] and must get kf6 added to the packageset [13:14] yep [13:30] @sgmoore hehe https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2024-July/002553.html [14:29] https://discuss.kde.org/t/wayland-nvidia-555-black-screen-after-update/18229 [14:29] 🙈 [14:45] And added already [14:49] Thanks! [14:52] once the plasma6 ready ... need to test it with nvidia machine .. i found search result plasma6 + nvidia issues [15:05] /me still looking the upstream bugs for it [15:22] @RikMills no plasma-workspace-wayland package in experimental ? [15:23] or its being replace with plasma-wayland-protocols [15:23] Nope. As it is supposed to be the default in plasma 6, debian merged that into the main plasma-workspace packages (re @myfenris: @RikMills no plasma-workspace-wayland package in experimental ?) [15:24] i see [15:32] kde gear 24.05.1 going to build soon? [15:33] i guess, kate in 23.08.5 is still depend on libkf5plasma [15:34] we haven't packaged that yet. plasma is the priority. then we can see about gear if there is time and people willing (re @myfenris: kde gear 24.05.1 going to build soon?) [15:35] so the kf6 n kf5 will be parallel exist? [15:35] yes [15:36] same way as we had some Qt4 for a while when a lot of things were Qt5 [15:37] i know the experimental is not safe ... but i still did it .... getting black screen n cursor after login [15:37] noted (re @RikMills: same way as we had some Qt4 for a while when a lot of things were Qt5) [15:37] as i got other DE (re @myfenris: i know the experimental is not safe ... but i still did it .... getting black screen n cursor after login) [15:39] Not really surprised. I would be amazed if it worked straight away before more tweaks (re @myfenris: i know the experimental is not safe ... but i still did it .... getting black screen n cursor after login) [15:40] not sure its related to plasma6 + nvidia issue or not [15:43] trying to run ksystemstats .... [15:43] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Yqf4KntVTZ/ [15:44] could not determine Plasma version [15:45] maybe u can advise or help .. how can i debug the plasma after login [15:46] not even sure ksystemstats is supposed to work run like that [15:49] Not sure how to debug, as I don't yet if all things needed are even installed or installable [15:49] Will work that out in the next few days hopefully [15:49] owh .. u havent install on your vm yet right [15:49] Nope [15:49] 👌🏻 [15:51] @myfenris btw, did sddm work? or are you using another DM? [15:53] santa_: frameworks upload. but you probably saw from the 72 emails ;) [15:54] im suing gdm3 (re @RikMills: @myfenris btw, did sddm work? or are you using another DM?) [15:54] i can give a try .. [15:54] RikMills: nope, I wasn't looking at the LP mails :) thanks for telling me [15:55] is it related ? i saw some on the net also it might related to sddm [15:55] I'm going to have a relaxed afternoon anyway [15:56] santa_: np, you earned it. I will put the retry script on a loop for the archive [15:57] ack, I see inthe iron hand graphs things already geeting in [16:01] Sddm working ... but once selecting plasma wayland .. it goes in the dark [16:03] https://irc-attachments.kde.org/4ecdbb33/file_76697.jpg [16:22] \0/ [16:22] im in plasma6 [16:23] im missing this guy : qml6-module-qtqml-workerscript [16:23] after installing it ... [16:23] b00m ! [16:24] https://irc-attachments.kde.org/2aa42460/file_76698.jpg [16:25] whoops. I meant to add that the other day, but forgot (re @myfenris: im missing this guy : qml6-module-qtqml-workerscript) [16:27] i tried running plasma from other DE [16:27] then i found that [16:28] worth taking the risk [16:28] but before that .. doing some cleaning on non-dependencies kf5 too [16:29] btw, my windows key doesnt trigger the kde menu button [16:30] is it because i clean my .config too :) [16:30] okie .. done resetting the keyboard shortcut [16:32] that shortcut randomly stops working for some people in plasma 5 as well [16:32] i see [16:32] so its not plasma6 n nvidia ... its the qtqml-workerscript .. [16:34] maybe can next build the 6.1.2 :) 🤞🏻 [16:35] I'm planning on it [16:35] but maybe in a different ppa [16:41] plasma6 ppa :) [16:47] the display scaling a little bit weird .. [16:48] seems the apps does follow the scale .. only the plasma [16:52] KHotKeys (which provides the "Custom Shortcuts" page in System Settings) - it was unmaintained for over 7 years and its core functionality overlapped the newer, maintained, and better supported KGlobalAccel system. The Mouse actions app may be usable as a replacement for KHotkeys' mouse gestures feature (re @myfenris: btw, my windows key doesnt trigger the kde menu button) [16:53] being removed in plasma6 [17:55] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=485591 [17:55] -ubottu:#kubuntu-devel- KDE bug 485591 in digikam "Many windows, UI elements are unusably small on high DPI screens" [Normal, Unconfirmed] [17:55] maybe im facing similar to the above on high DPI [18:19] * Add depend on qml6-module-qtqml-workerscript. 👍