| Guest67 | Is it safe (for long term) to always use Suspend option and Shut Down and never hibernate? I use Ubuntu 22.04 | 01:44 |
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| devslash | does anyone know if the 24.04 update upgrade is working reliably ? | 01:44 |
| oerheks | devslash, upgrade path is released, so yes. | 01:45 |
| devslash | just so i understand, where does it say that ? | 01:46 |
| oerheks | if it was not working correct, would it be released? | 01:47 |
| devslash | well I have seen the prompt to upgrade since 24.04 was released | 01:47 |
| devslash | I'd like to understand how it works | 01:48 |
| oerheks | yes, from 23.04 to 24.04 directly, but LTS > LTS takes a little more time | 01:48 |
| devslash | i am on 23.10 | 01:48 |
| devslash | FWIW | 01:48 |
| oerheks | go for it. to be sure, prepare a fresh 24.04 usb before upgrading | 01:49 |
| devslash | I'm confused | 01:50 |
| oerheks | but that should be standard practice | 01:50 |
| devslash | why do i need a fresh usb ? | 01:50 |
| devslash | I was going to update by running do-release-upgrade | 01:50 |
| pnutzh4x0r | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NobleUpgrades | 01:50 |
| pnutzh4x0r | > Upgrades will not be available immediately following the release of Ubuntu 24.04 LTS. Upgrades from Ubuntu 23.10 will be enabled shortly after the release, once any known upgrade issues are resolved. Upgrades from Ubuntu 22.04 LTS are not enabled until the release of Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS. This is currently scheduled for August 2024. | 01:50 |
| oerheks | thanks pnutzh4x0r | 01:51 |
| devslash | is that different from do-release-upgrade ? | 01:51 |
| oerheks | one can see the upgrade in update-dialog screen | 01:52 |
| oerheks | it is the same | 01:52 |
| Guest67 | Is it bad practice to only use Suspend and never Hibernate, even if you leave your laptop for extended periods? | 01:53 |
| oerheks | Guest67, no idea about that, why would it be? | 01:55 |
| Guest67 | oerheks I dunno, maybe power consumption concerns. I haven't had an issue. I just wanted to sanity check on this | 01:57 |
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| pnutzh4x0r | Guest67: I don't think so. I only ever use suspend, never hibernate | 01:58 |
| pnutzh4x0r | hibernate could be worse actually, since it requires writing memory to disk, and that can add wear and tear to your disk (particularly a SSD) | 01:59 |
| oerheks | wear and tear to ssd, was a long time ago | 02:00 |
| oerheks | also white spots | 02:00 |
| pnutzh4x0r | the issue with suspend is that it may still drain battery, so if you are not going to use it for a long time, it is better to turn it off or hibernate | 02:00 |
| oerheks | i would be more concerned with a traditional spinner and walking around with a laptop in hybernate/sleep | 02:00 |
| Guest67 | thanks. this is good news for my swap partition | 02:07 |
| devslash | oerheks thanks for the help. Just finished updating yo 24.04 and everything worked just fine | 02:49 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 02:52 |
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| Guest79 | hi | 05:17 |
| Guest79 | anyone in here ever had a leg cast? | 05:18 |
| pinkergloop | so i have another troubleshooting question | 08:11 |
| pinkergloop | ever since updating to 24.04 | 08:11 |
| pinkergloop | i can no longer find my HDMI sound output on my TV | 08:11 |
| pinkergloop | i tried to restart pulseaudio but it doesn't work | 08:11 |
| pinkergloop | jk i got it | 08:12 |
| pinkergloop | i just changed the profile to the correct HDMI output | 08:12 |
| Northwoods | The last command in ubuntu is showing some ip addresses | 09:54 |
| Northwoods | i want to see login's done through shell | 09:54 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:24 |
| simon_ | what if ventoy failed creating a windows media | 14:16 |
| simon_ | ? | 14:16 |
| simon_ | which else can I try | 14:16 |
| simon_ | kekw | 14:16 |
| oerheks | ventoi is know for problems, try rufus | 14:17 |
| oerheks | !usb | 14:17 |
| ubottu | For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 14:17 |
| simon_ | rufus on linux? | 14:17 |
| oerheks | on ubuntu, just use the usb creator? | 14:18 |
| oerheks | oh wait, i read wrong, windows media | 14:18 |
| oerheks | no, you need WOE usb. | 14:18 |
| oerheks | that can take an hour or so, better do this on a windows machine | 14:19 |
| oerheks | good luck! | 14:19 |
| simon_ | :( | 14:20 |
| simon_ | could I try also older version of ventoy | 14:20 |
| simon_ | ? | 14:20 |
| oerheks | not helping with ventoi, crappy tool | 14:20 |
| simon_ | shit :D | 14:21 |
| simon_ | why did I install linux | 14:21 |
| simon_ | on all my machines | 14:21 |
| |N3on21| | :( | 14:31 |
| simon_ | guys is 6.9.9 kernel doing anything better than the old kernel= | 14:31 |
| leftyfb | simon_: that kernl is not used in any current ubuntu releases | 14:34 |
| simon_ | https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/WoeUSB/ | 14:48 |
| simon_ | is this from ubuntu | 14:48 |
| simon_ | how to add tomtom repo | 14:48 |
| oerheks | yes | 14:48 |
| leftyfb | simon_: sudo snap install woe-usb | 14:48 |
| leftyfb | simon_: there is no repo for tomtom software that I can find | 14:49 |
| oerheks | the line above ppa:tomtomtom/woeusb shows how to add, but the snap is much easier | 14:49 |
| oerheks | sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tomtomtom/woeusb | 14:50 |
| TomTom | I also do not know a repository ;-) | 14:50 |
| oerheks | single ppa maintainer, never read about him before | 14:50 |
| simon_ | and how do I use woeusb now? | 15:02 |
| simon_ | xd | 15:02 |
| oerheks | click the icon in your menu | 15:02 |
| leftyfb | simon_: did you open it? | 15:02 |
| simon_ | no icon there | 15:03 |
| simon_ | woe-usb.woeusb | 15:03 |
| simon_ | have only this command in command line | 15:03 |
| simon_ | sudo snap install --edge woe-usb | 15:04 |
| simon_ | I did this correct | 15:04 |
| simon_ | ? | 15:04 |
| leftyfb | why did you install from edge? | 15:05 |
| simon_ | it said to me woe-usb only available in edge | 15:05 |
| oerheks | oh this is not how i remember, it had a gui ? | 15:06 |
| oerheks | woeusb --device <source media path> <device> | 15:07 |
| leftyfb | https://itsfoss.com/install-woeusb-ubuntu/#:~:text=in%20NTFS%20filesystem.-,Method%201%3A%20Using%20WoeUSB%20to%20create%20a%20bootable%20Windows%20USB%20graphically%20(recommended),-Open%20woeusb%2Dgui | 15:07 |
| leftyfb | you can do either | 15:07 |
| simon_ | woe-usb.woeusb Win11_23H2_German_x64v2.iso /dev/sda | 15:08 |
| simon_ | like this? | 15:08 |
| simon_ | oh forgot --device | 15:09 |
| simon_ | sudo woe-usb.woeusb --device /dev/sda --target-filesystem NTFS --windows-iso Win11_23H2_German_x64v2.iso | 15:11 |
| simon_ | does not work | 15:11 |
| oerheks | sda is your hdd? | 15:12 |
| simon_ | y | 15:12 |
| oerheks | it is made to create an usb | 15:12 |
| simon_ | doesnt work | 15:13 |
| simon_ | https://pastebin.com/Zva5ZeYq | 15:15 |
| simon_ | this error I get | 15:15 |
| simon_ | help pls | 15:17 |
| oerheks | i doubt that sda is your usb, where is your OS installed? | 15:17 |
| simon_ | Disk /dev/sda: 115,63 GiB, 124160966656 bytes, 242501888 sectors | 15:18 |
| simon_ | Disk model: USB DISK 3.0 | 15:18 |
| simon_ | sda is my stick | 15:18 |
| oerheks | i have no clue then | 15:20 |
| Guest46 | i have this adapter https://www.verbatim-europe.com/en/hubs-adapters/products/usb-c-to-vga-adapter-49145 | 15:26 |
| Guest46 | i doesn't work | 15:26 |
| Guest46 | why | 15:26 |
| Guest46 | it says no signal | 15:31 |
| SanShi | hi, can someone tell me where the file "autoexec.bat" is located in ubuntu? | 18:09 |
| oerheks | haha,, linux does not have that file, it is windows solely | 18:10 |
| enigma9o7 | C:\ | 18:10 |
| SanShi | okey | 18:10 |
| chmod777_lmtr | hi Which is the oldest ubuntu version to receive updates? | 18:19 |
| jeremy31 | 20.04 | 18:20 |
| leftyfb | chmod777_lmtr: depends if you're paying for ESM support from Canonical. | 18:21 |
| leftyfb | if not, then yes, 20.04 | 18:21 |
| leftyfb | if you are, then 16.04 is supposed till 2026 | 18:21 |
| leftyfb | but if you're paying for esm, you probably already knew that | 18:21 |
| chmod777_lmtr | I will buy ubuntu vps. But I want the old version and I want it to get updates. | 18:24 |
| leftyfb | why? | 18:24 |
| leftyfb | chmod777_lmtr: why do you want the old version? | 18:25 |
| oerheks | your vps provider will give you a choice what versions they support | 18:25 |
| chmod777_lmtr | I buy cheap vps. latest versions. may have difficulty operating | 18:25 |
| leftyfb | chmod777_lmtr: your vps provider won't give you the option of an OS that "may have difficulty operating" | 18:26 |
| leftyfb | chmod777_lmtr: I strongly recommend going with 24.04 or 22.04 at the oldest | 18:26 |
| chmod777_lmtr | I understand. I will choose 22.04. Thanks | 18:28 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 18:29 |
| enigma9o7 | older versions get some updates thru Ubuntu Pro... I still get updates on 18.04 | 18:41 |
| oerheks | for your 18.04 desktop? | 18:42 |
| leftyfb | oerheks: pro/esm is free for 5 years for 5 computers | 18:43 |
| leftyfb | for ubuntu members | 18:43 |
| oerheks | it does not include gnome, right? | 18:43 |
| leftyfb | wait, no, for just having an account | 18:43 |
| enigma9o7 | just checked now, got 11 updates. mainly python 3.6 related. | 18:43 |
| leftyfb | it's all security updates | 18:44 |
| enigma9o7 | i dont use ubuntu-desktop so dunno. i would assume if there's a security issue tho it would be included. | 18:44 |
| beaver | enigma9o7: have you finished with your urls? By the way, do the urls contain malware? | 18:46 |
| enigma9o7 | I don't understand the question. | 18:46 |
| leftyfb | beaver: please stay on topic | 18:46 |
| enigma9o7 | updates come from esm.ubuntu.com/infra/ubuntu bionic-infra-security/main | 18:46 |
| beaver | you've been spamming your urls for weeks on libera.chat... changing your pseudonym won't solve the problem </ot> | 18:48 |
| oerheks | the url cop? | 18:48 |
| chmod777_lmtr | I chose 22.04 and bought it. I have already started the installation with the sudo apt install xfce4 xfce4-goodies command and putty. Thank you | 18:48 |
| chmod777_lmtr | I hope I can complete the installation without any problems. | 18:48 |
| JoeLlama | so, if I format a usb drive to install ubuntu on a system.... is there a place on that drive where I can also store other files? | 19:00 |
| oerheks | standard, no persistence part | 19:01 |
| oerheks | one needs to use an other tool, rufus? | 19:01 |
| oerheks | !usb | 19:01 |
| ubottu | For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 19:01 |
| oerheks | or use a 2nd usb, much easier | 19:01 |
| JoeLlama | nope the applications requires that I can boot off the single USB and store files there too | 19:02 |
| JoeLlama | thanks for the links | 19:02 |
| beaver | enigma9o7: I think EnlGmA [~EnlGmA@user/EnlGmA] is you. With your url *.serveo.net ;) | 19:04 |
| oerheks | beaver, no personal attacks here | 19:04 |
| oerheks | !coc > beaver | 19:04 |
| ubottu | beaver: Please see my private message | 19:04 |
| JoeLlama | I need to be able to boot from the flash drive and image the drive after zero filling unused space and then doing a dd | 7z back to that flash drive all in one USB drive | 19:05 |
| JoeLlama | I mean image the drive on the target system | 19:06 |
| oerheks | if you create a persistent part, no need to fill with 00s | 19:06 |
| oerheks | oh | 19:06 |
| beaver | oerheks: but what personal attack? He may have spread malware on the network, he may even have been k-line. But okay, I'll comply. | 19:06 |
| leftyfb | beaver: this is a support channel. Take it elsewhere | 19:07 |
| JoeLlama | basically I need a usb drive that boots to the os so I can compress and back up that drive on the target system back to the bootable flash drive | 19:07 |
| leftyfb | JoeLlama: you can make your own custom iso | 19:07 |
| beaver | leftyfb: sorry | 19:07 |
| bparker | 18:48 < chmod777_lmtr> I chose 22.04 and bought it <- how does one buy ubuntu | 19:08 |
| leftyfb | bparker: the VPS | 19:08 |
| JoeLlama | oerheks the reason to zero fill is to reduce the size of the image backup using 7z... 7z is set to use minimum compression (level 1) | 19:08 |
| JoeLlama | so I need a writable area on the USB dive | 19:08 |
| oerheks | JoeLlama, i understand, was mixed up with the space on usb. | 19:08 |
| oerheks | go for rufus | 19:09 |
| JoeLlama | ya I don't explain right huh :( | 19:09 |
| oerheks | np | 19:09 |
| JoeLlama | so like... just plug the usb in boot from usb zero fill then dd | 7z to a file on the flash drive... like to automate it so that you just plug i and boot from USB and it does the rest | 19:10 |
| JoeLlama | easy peazy | 19:11 |
| leftyfb | JoeLlama: you'll need to make your own custom iso | 19:11 |
| JoeLlama | I dunno if I can write to the usb and if I can I dunn where | 19:11 |
| JoeLlama | oh ok | 19:11 |
| JoeLlama | what's the trick leftyfb | 19:12 |
| JoeLlama | so you are saying if I just use a standard install of ubuntu to a USB I can't write to is? | 19:12 |
| JoeLlama | gotta go custom huh... | 19:12 |
| leftyfb | JoeLlama: make your own custom iso. It's not "easy peazy" unless you follow 1 or more tutorials and have a basic understanding of how it all works | 19:12 |
| JoeLlama | but wouldn't that be slick if it wa all autmmagic from one UDB drive? | 19:13 |
| oerheks | look for cubic, not in our repos | 19:13 |
| JoeLlama | cloning would be a snap | 19:13 |
| leftyfb | JoeLlama: yes, I've done it | 19:13 |
| JoeLlama | neat | 19:13 |
| leftyfb | the writing part, I don't understand of making a backup and then writing it back to the same drive | 19:13 |
| JoeLlama | james bond style spy stuff too (: heh if you are notorius... I'm a white hat however | 19:13 |
| leftyfb | JoeLlama: good luck | 19:13 |
| JoeLlama | no no | 19:14 |
| JoeLlama | not the same drive... | 19:14 |
| JoeLlama | you got a notdbook | 19:14 |
| JoeLlama | there is a drive in it | 19:14 |
| JoeLlama | you wanna clone it | 19:14 |
| JoeLlama | you only wanna use one usb flash drive | 19:14 |
| JoeLlama | just plug in and F-12 for alternate boot select USB and let it go | 19:15 |
| leftyfb | make sure you're changing the hostname and machine-id on the written OS as part of your custom script | 19:15 |
| JoeLlama | ubuntu loads and makes an image file that is saved on that same usb | 19:15 |
| leftyfb | JoeLlama: I get it | 19:15 |
| JoeLlama | and then shuts down when complete | 19:15 |
| JoeLlama | sweet right? | 19:16 |
| JoeLlama | good :) | 19:16 |
| leftyfb | if that's the sort of thing you want, sure | 19:16 |
| leftyfb | I prefer ansible | 19:16 |
| JoeLlama | thats what I need so I ca literally plus in the USB and leave the building | 19:16 |
| JoeLlama | when I come back later the laptop is off and the USB has the image and output from the tourines to make sure it completed without errors | 19:17 |
| JoeLlama | you an just leave it plugged in all the time or better yet maybe t's possible to do it from an M.2 | 19:17 |
| JoeLlama | even faster | 19:18 |
| topcat001 | Ventoy can boot the Ubuntu iso and then its data partition can be used to save stuff - this is a quick and dirty way | 19:18 |
| JoeLlama | I'm using Move Speed usb they do 1000 MB/Sec | 19:18 |
| JoeLlama | still getting used to that :) | 19:18 |
| oerheks | ventoi is know for bugs, topcat001 | 19:18 |
| topcat001 | If it works it works | 19:19 |
| oerheks | that is why it is not in the usb factoid | 19:19 |
| leftyfb | it also won't do what JoeLlama is looking for | 19:19 |
| JoeLlama | ok so the consensis is that I gotta do a custom thing | 19:19 |
| JoeLlama | it would be nice to just fill a slot withj an M.2 then all I need to do at the end of the day is F-12 boot menu and pick the M.2 then walk away | 19:20 |
| topcat001 | ok this is a more complicated requirement - just read the backlog | 19:20 |
| JoeLlama | can store multiple backup images | 19:20 |
| chmod777_lmtr | This is virtual computer. virtual personal computer has limited features. web master self-improvement, website design. website hosting It has uses such as. You can buy ovh canada. https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/vps/ | 19:20 |
| chmod777_lmtr | This is virtual computer. virtual personal computer has limited features. web master self-improvement, website design. website hosting It has uses such as. You can buy ovh canada. https://www.ovhcloud.com/en/vps/ | 19:20 |
| leftyfb | chmod777_lmtr: what do you need help with? | 19:20 |
| JoeLlama | okee doke I read those two links and go from there | 19:21 |
| JoeLlama | thanks guys :) | 19:21 |
| chmod777_lmtr | someone asked, okay I'm going, thank you | 19:21 |
| yes-ubuntu | hey! man limits.h returns not found? How do I solve this, please? :D | 20:57 |
| enigma9o7 | What are you trying to solve? Finding a package with that file? | 20:58 |
| oerheks | https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/noble/man7/limits.h.7posix.html | 20:58 |
| oerheks | !info manpages-posix-dev | 20:59 |
| ubottu | manpages-posix-dev (2017a-2, noble): Manual pages about using a POSIX system for development. In component multiverse, is optional. Built by manpages-posix. Size 1,744 kB / 2,229 kB | 20:59 |
| oerheks | voila, optional. install it with apt | 20:59 |
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| yes-ubuntu | Thank you! :) (all good now) | 21:00 |
| oerheks | have fun! | 21:00 |
| eddi5 | hello all | 21:21 |
| oerheks | :-) | 21:22 |
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| eddie5 | ll /etc/resolv.conf | 21:27 |
| eddie5 | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 Apr 24 21:57 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf | 21:27 |
| eddie5 | i want return to classic resolv.conf. By default ubuntu install avahi in systemd | 21:27 |
| eddie5 | resolv.conf is empty and locked, impossible to edit | 21:30 |
| oerheks | maybe this howto works for you too https://www.ricmedia.com/tutorials/set-permanent-dns-nameservers-ubuntu-debian-resolv-conf | 21:32 |
| eddie5 | oerheks: basically deleting avahi the dns sistem remain locked. I DONT WANT avahi | 21:33 |
| eddie5 | not edit resolv.conf locked | 21:34 |
| jeremy31 | try editing /run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf instead and hope you don't really mess it up | 21:35 |
| eddie5 | file /etc/resolv.conf | 21:36 |
| eddie5 | file /etc/resolv.conf | 21:36 |
| pnutzh4x0r | eddie5: you can use systemctl to stop, disable, and mask avahi-daemon if you just want to not use that service | 21:37 |
| eddie5 | #/etc/resolv.conf: broken symbolic link to ../run/systemd/resolve/stub-resolv.conf | 21:37 |
| jeremy31 | eddie5: The results you showed before showed /etc/resolv.conf was just a symlink | 21:37 |
| oerheks | indeed, that file links to /etc/resolv.conf | 21:37 |
| eddie5 | no avahi no | 21:37 |
| oerheks | .. | 21:38 |
| oerheks | or jump to netplan | 21:38 |
| eddie5 | avahi is purged but locked sysyem | 21:40 |
| eddie5 | jeremy31: yes , the file is used by another process | 21:49 |
| TheChinaskiBoy | anyone else have wayland crash when opening pdfs, either in-browser or with a reader? crashes with both nvidia 535 and 545 drivers so assume that's not to blame. | 21:57 |
| enigma9o7 | It doesn't crash when you do the same thing in an xorg session? | 22:06 |
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| nickgaw | Hi, after installing mysql-server I find that not only is mysql not connecting threw a local unix socket like it should but I do not know the default password for the server as it was just installed so the mysql_secure_installation script does not run and mysql gives me errors about not able to connect using root as I am on the server as root so how can I fix this system? | 23:56 |
| nickgaw | Ubuntu 24 | 23:56 |
| junyx | nickgaw sounds like you may need mysql support #mysql | 23:57 |
| nickgaw | Yes but this is the ubuntu mysql-server package. | 23:58 |
| nickgaw | so who knows what they messed up from the defaults here. | 23:58 |
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