| sarnold | good morning | 14:31 |
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| didrocks | hey! | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | huhu | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 14:32 |
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| cpaelzer | Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe ) | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 14:32 |
| cpaelzer | uh | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | a lot today | 14:33 |
| cpaelzer | I feel we have talked udisk2 -> exfatprogs last time | 14:34 |
| sarnold | "But fakeroot FTBFS on armhf/oracular" .. how..? | 14:34 |
| sarnold | exfatprogs feels new to me | 14:34 |
| sarnold | I don't see it in /lastlog | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | me neither | 14:34 |
| cpaelzer | maybe it was years ago | 14:35 |
| sarnold | ah that can happen :) | 14:35 |
| didrocks | yeah, sounds new to me too | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | udisk2 is desktop - jbicha or didrocks - can you have a look what you want to do with thta | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | now to the long list in -proposed | 14:35 |
| didrocks | I’ll defer to jbicha and track it if it’s not handled | 14:35 |
| slyon | no fakeroot is new | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | rust pulls in docs and that pullsin fonts and JS | 14:35 |
| slyon | I marked it as false-positive | 14:35 |
| cpaelzer | we asked for an auto-exclude last time, that already existed | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | so it is about demoting the -doc | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | which didn't happen | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | is that otherwise ready to move? checking excuses ... | 14:36 |
| slyon | cpaelzer: I did the extra-exclude for rust-docs... but the -doc package needs demotion, so far no AA did it for me, could you? | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | I will slyon | 14:36 |
| slyon | thx | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | also main cannot depend on libstd-rust-1.76-dev in universe | 14:36 |
| cpaelzer | which also needs movement | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | but is covered by the former MIRs | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | ... | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | more of the same | 14:37 |
| sarnold | i'm surprised that doesn't show up in this report | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | there are also autopkgtest issues, so it won't move even if I fix where they live | 14:37 |
| cpaelzer | next is freeradius | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | I'll carry this to the server team | 14:38 |
| cpaelzer | libusbmuxd -> libimobildedevuce-glue | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | that is desktop | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | jbicha: didrocks ^^ could you make someone have a look please to file a bug or resolve the reason it is pulled in? | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | next is websockify by openstack | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | jamespage: ^^ is that expected? | 14:39 |
| cpaelzer | python-redis sounds intense for something that just websockifies | 14:40 |
| didrocks | cpaelzer: ack | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | python-jsonschema also is for openstack jamespage | 14:40 |
| cpaelzer | It seems one of you merged a bunch :-) | 14:40 |
| jamespage | yep aware | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | thanks jamespage thanks didrocks | 14:41 |
| cpaelzer | just a sec | 14:42 |
| cpaelzer | all others are known too | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | next agenda item | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/highway/+bug/2070807 | 14:43 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2070807 in highway (Ubuntu) "[MIR] highway" [Undecided, New] | 14:43 | |
| cpaelzer | it got its tests added a few hours before | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | thereby ready for MIR review | 14:43 |
| cpaelzer | The package highway is required in Ubuntu main as a build and runtime dependency of jpeg-xl (LP: #2070882) | 14:44 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2070882 in jpeg-xl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] jpeg-xl" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2070882 | 14:44 | |
| cpaelzer | the related jpeg-xl one is on joalif since two weeks | 14:44 |
| cpaelzer | looking for a volunteer to review | 14:45 |
| slyon | I can | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | slyon: you or me - should I throw a coin? | 14:45 |
| slyon | throw the coin ;-) | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | dice also said it is you 1-3 me 4-6 you - rolled a 6 | 14:45 |
| didrocks999 | if it doesn’t need to be this week, I can maybe handle it next one | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | as managers I have all my old roleplaying dices here at the desk :-) | 14:45 |
| slyon | haha, that's fine | 14:45 |
| cpaelzer | we will soon enough have somethinf else for you didrocks999 | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | f->g | 14:46 |
| didrocks999 | unsure if I’m relieved or scared :p | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | thank you slyon | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | remind me next time :-) | 14:46 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams | 14:47 |
| sarnold | didrocks999: https://paste.debian.net/1323440/ | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | one recent update | 14:47 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdisplay-info/+bug/2071396 | 14:47 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2071396 in libdisplay-info (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libdisplay-info" [Undecided, Incomplete] | 14:47 | |
| cpaelzer | ok | 14:48 |
| didrocks999 | sarnold: thanks! I won’t have to wait for an hour to have irclogs updated :) | 14:48 |
| slyon | I'd still like to see an update to the most recent version | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | the update only is referring to dependencies | 14:48 |
| sarnold | :) | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | it is still incomplete | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | I assume jbicha will come back to use once it is ready | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | on him and incomplete - no action to be taken here | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Process/Documentation improvements | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | nothing new | 14:48 |
| cpaelzer | this section is muhc quicker since we did our cleanup | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | thanks! | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | #topic MIR related Security Review Queue | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place. | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | Internal link | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 | 14:49 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: you said progress is slow and time is scarce - any improvement? | 14:49 |
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| sarnold | cpaelzer: a little, I had another conversation with management yesterday, who have promised some movement -- but nothing concrete yet, I think (I haven't checked scrollback yet this morning) | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | I see the backlog growing relative to the things in progress | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | we know two more currently in MIR review that likely will be added | 14:50 |
| cpaelzer | there is not much more to be said | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | hoping for you to get people or time and if possible both sarnold | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 14:51 |
| slyon | nothing for me | 14:51 |
| sarnold | none here | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | you all please raise awareness in your respective teams of the coming feature freeze in less than a month | 14:51 |
| sarnold | *gasp* | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | yes, time flies that fast | 14:51 |
| cpaelzer | nothing else from me today | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: jamespage: anything you need to raise? | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | or joalif if you read this today? | 14:52 |
| didrocks | nothing either. I’ll have some forwarding to do :) | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | ok | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | I'll put my reminder for the AA movements | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | that is all for today then | 14:52 |
| sarnold | I misread "do any of you need a raise?" :) | 14:52 |
| didrocks | heh | 14:52 |
| cpaelzer | sarnold: I can't help with that | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | ok then | 14:53 |
| cpaelzer | https://oeis.org/A017666 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | 7 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | 1 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | 5 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | 4 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | 3 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | 2 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | 1 | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 14:54 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 14:54:33 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-07-16-14.32.moin.txt | 14:54 |
| didrocks | :) | 14:54 |
| didrocks | thanks cpaelzer, all! | 14:54 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 14:54 |
| cpaelzer | see you all, thanks | 14:54 |
| slyon | thanks all! | 14:55 |
| cpaelzer | rust 1.74 already in universe, 1.75 somewhere lost in between, 1.76 in main already, but not all | 14:59 |
| cpaelzer | that is like component mismatch whack-a-mole | 14:59 |
| schopin | (and 1.77 in my personal sponsoring queue) | 15:01 |
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| sil2100 | o/ | 19:01 |
| rbasak | o/ | 19:01 |
| rbasak | Looks like I'm chairing | 19:01 |
| rbasak | Anyone else here? | 19:02 |
| rbasak | #startmeeting Technical Board | 19:02 |
| meetingology | Meeting started at 19:02:26 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology | 19:02 |
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| rbasak | #topic Apologies | 19:02 |
| rbasak | #info amurray sends his apologies | 19:02 |
| sil2100 | Maybe vorlon is around? | 19:03 |
| rbasak | #info vorlon and seb128 are absent | 19:03 |
| rbasak | #topic Action review | 19:03 |
| rbasak | ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 19:03 |
| rbasak | This is in progress. The draft is pretty much ready to convert to Markdown for Discourse. Please see my final edits to see if you're happy with them. I will continue regardless unless there are any objections. | 19:04 |
| rbasak | #action Oh I'm sorry. That's for the next item. | 19:04 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Oh I'm sorry. That's for the next item. | 19:04 |
| * vorlon waves | 19:04 | |
| rbasak | #undo | 19:04 |
| meetingology | Removing item from minutes: ACTION | 19:04 |
| vorlon | sorry I'm late | 19:04 |
| rbasak | o/ | 19:04 |
| sil2100 | Oooh, didn't know about the undo feature! | 19:05 |
| rbasak | The DMB item is in the queue behind this other one | 19:05 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 19:05 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification | 19:05 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy | 19:05 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy | 19:05 |
| rbasak | as above | 19:05 |
| rbasak | vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays | 19:05 |
| vorlon | well | 19:05 |
| vorlon | carry-over :) | 19:06 |
| rbasak | #action vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays | 19:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays | 19:06 |
| rbasak | seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 19:06 |
| rbasak | He isn't here so I'll carry over. | 19:06 |
| rbasak | #action seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 19:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations | 19:06 |
| rbasak | sil2100 to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification re the number of contacts listed for the flavor | 19:06 |
| sil2100 | So regarding this one | 19:06 |
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| sil2100 | I'm fine in proceeding, but wanted to ask around if we still think this is necesasry | 19:06 |
| sil2100 | Cinnamon has been labelled LTS for 24.04, if we think chasing down on this is still a valid action, I can do that | 19:07 |
| vorlon | I still want clarification of the contacts | 19:07 |
| sil2100 | Fine by me, the doc does show quite a mish-mash of people there | 19:08 |
| vorlon | as we still need to be able to manage point releases of this flavor for years | 19:08 |
| sil2100 | Let me start drafting an e-mail then | 19:08 |
| rbasak | Shall I carry this one over then? | 19:08 |
| sil2100 | Yes please | 19:08 |
| rbasak | #action sil2100 to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification re the number of contacts listed for the flavor | 19:08 |
| meetingology | ACTION: sil2100 to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification re the number of contacts listed for the flavor | 19:08 |
| rbasak | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) | 19:08 |
| rbasak | There are a couple | 19:08 |
| rbasak | "Ubuntu Studio Minimal ISO" from Eickmeyer | 19:09 |
| rbasak | #subtopic Ubuntu Studio Minimal ISO | 19:09 |
| rbasak | Is there any action for the TB or can it be left to the release team to handle? | 19:09 |
| vorlon | I think this is with the release team for now | 19:09 |
| rbasak | THanks | 19:09 |
| rbasak | #agreed There is no TB action on this at the moment. We will leave this for the release team to handle | 19:10 |
| meetingology | AGREED: There is no TB action on this at the moment. We will leave this for the release team to handle | 19:10 |
| rbasak | #subtopic Extended Ubuntu Flavor Build Failure | 19:10 |
| rbasak | I only just moderated this one through | 19:10 |
| rbasak | It's in the archive if you haven't seen it yet: | 19:10 |
| rbasak | #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-July/002933.html | 19:10 |
| rbasak | What action do we need to take, if any? | 19:11 |
| vorlon | in this morning's release team meeting I asked that the TB be informed that a flavor has been broken for a while in devel and that the flavor contacts have not been responsive | 19:11 |
| vorlon | I don't think there's any action to take at this time for the TB | 19:11 |
| rbasak | Thanks | 19:11 |
| vorlon | they're not currently out of compliance w/ the release guidelines | 19:11 |
| rbasak | Do we need to assume that there won't be a Mate release then, going forward, unless something changes? | 19:11 |
| vorlon | I just don't want it to come as a surprise to anybody if they miss oracular | 19:11 |
| vorlon | it's currently not releasable for oracular, yes | 19:12 |
| rbasak | #agreed No specific TB action to take, but we won't expect there to be an Oracular release for Mate unless we make contact with their leads again | 19:12 |
| meetingology | AGREED: No specific TB action to take, but we won't expect there to be an Oracular release for Mate unless we make contact with their leads again | 19:12 |
| vorlon | oh - I see the email mentions "flavor lead", but of course the LTS qual guidelines now say there must be multiple flavor contacts :) | 19:12 |
| sil2100 | +1 | 19:12 |
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| vorlon | I don't know who all has been contacted, I'll follow up to the mail to make sure | 19:13 |
| rbasak | Do you want an action item for that? | 19:13 |
| vorlon | you can | 19:13 |
| rbasak | #undo | 19:13 |
| meetingology | Removing item from minutes: AGREED | 19:13 |
| rbasak | Oh, hmm. | 19:13 |
| rbasak | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) | 19:13 |
| rbasak | #subtopic Extended Ubuntu Flavor Build Failure | 19:14 |
| rbasak | #action vorlon to follow up on Ubuntu Mate lead contact by email | 19:14 |
| meetingology | ACTION: vorlon to follow up on Ubuntu Mate lead contact by email | 19:14 |
| rbasak | #agreed No specific TB action to take, but we won't expect there to be an Oracular release for Mate unless we make contact with their leads again | 19:14 |
| meetingology | AGREED: No specific TB action to take, but we won't expect there to be an Oracular release for Mate unless we make contact with their leads again | 19:14 |
| rbasak | #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs | 19:14 |
| rbasak | #info No community bugs listed | 19:14 |
| rbasak | #info No new techboard bugs; the existing ones have action items | 19:15 |
| rbasak | #topic Select a chair for the next meeting | 19:15 |
| rbasak | #info The next chair will be seb128 with vorlon as backup | 19:15 |
| rbasak | #topic AOB | 19:15 |
| rbasak | AOB? | 19:15 |
| sil2100 | Nothing from me | 19:16 |
| rbasak | #info No other business | 19:16 |
| rbasak | #endmeeting | 19:16 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 19:16:42 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-07-16-19.02.moin.txt | 19:16 |
| rbasak | Thanks all! | 19:16 |
| vorlon | thanks | 19:16 |
| sil2100 | rbasak: thank you for chairing! :) | 19:19 |
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