[14:31] good morning [14:32] hey! [14:32] huhu [14:32] #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status [14:32] Meeting started at 14:32:36 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [14:32] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [14:32] Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe ) [14:32] #topic current component mismatches [14:32] Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams [14:32] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg [14:32] #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg [14:33] uh [14:33] a lot today [14:34] I feel we have talked udisk2 -> exfatprogs last time [14:34] "But fakeroot FTBFS on armhf/oracular" .. how..? [14:34] exfatprogs feels new to me [14:34] I don't see it in /lastlog [14:34] me neither [14:35] maybe it was years ago [14:35] ah that can happen :) [14:35] yeah, sounds new to me too [14:35] udisk2 is desktop - jbicha or didrocks - can you have a look what you want to do with thta [14:35] now to the long list in -proposed [14:35] I’ll defer to jbicha and track it if it’s not handled [14:35] no fakeroot is new [14:35] rust pulls in docs and that pullsin fonts and JS [14:35] I marked it as false-positive [14:36] we asked for an auto-exclude last time, that already existed [14:36] so it is about demoting the -doc [14:36] which didn't happen [14:36] is that otherwise ready to move? checking excuses ... [14:36] cpaelzer: I did the extra-exclude for rust-docs... but the -doc package needs demotion, so far no AA did it for me, could you? [14:36] I will slyon [14:36] thx [14:36] also main cannot depend on libstd-rust-1.76-dev in universe [14:37] which also needs movement [14:37] but is covered by the former MIRs [14:37] ... [14:37] more of the same [14:37] i'm surprised that doesn't show up in this report [14:37] there are also autopkgtest issues, so it won't move even if I fix where they live [14:38] next is freeradius [14:38] I'll carry this to the server team [14:39] libusbmuxd -> libimobildedevuce-glue [14:39] that is desktop [14:39] jbicha: didrocks ^^ could you make someone have a look please to file a bug or resolve the reason it is pulled in? [14:39] next is websockify by openstack [14:39] jamespage: ^^ is that expected? [14:40] python-redis sounds intense for something that just websockifies [14:40] cpaelzer: ack [14:40] python-jsonschema also is for openstack jamespage [14:40] It seems one of you merged a bunch :-) [14:41] yep aware [14:41] thanks jamespage thanks didrocks [14:42] just a sec [14:43] all others are known too [14:43] next agenda item [14:43] #topic New MIRs [14:43] Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing [14:43] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/highway/+bug/2070807 [14:43] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2070807 in highway (Ubuntu) "[MIR] highway" [Undecided, New] [14:43] it got its tests added a few hours before [14:43] thereby ready for MIR review [14:44] The package highway is required in Ubuntu main as a build and runtime dependency of jpeg-xl (LP: #2070882) [14:44] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2070882 in jpeg-xl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] jpeg-xl" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2070882 [14:44] the related jpeg-xl one is on joalif since two weeks [14:45] looking for a volunteer to review [14:45] I can [14:45] slyon: you or me - should I throw a coin? [14:45] throw the coin ;-) [14:45] dice also said it is you 1-3 me 4-6 you - rolled a 6 [14:45] if it doesn’t need to be this week, I can maybe handle it next one [14:45] as managers I have all my old roleplaying dices here at the desk :-) [14:45] haha, that's fine [14:46] we will soon enough have somethinf else for you didrocks999 [14:46] f->g [14:46] unsure if I’m relieved or scared :p [14:46] thank you slyon [14:46] remind me next time :-) [14:47] #topic Incomplete bugs / questions [14:47] Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams [14:47] didrocks999: https://paste.debian.net/1323440/ [14:47] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:47] one recent update [14:47] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libdisplay-info/+bug/2071396 [14:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu-meeting- Launchpad bug 2071396 in libdisplay-info (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libdisplay-info" [Undecided, Incomplete] [14:48] ok [14:48] sarnold: thanks! I won’t have to wait for an hour to have irclogs updated :) [14:48] I'd still like to see an update to the most recent version [14:48] the update only is referring to dependencies [14:48] :) [14:48] it is still incomplete [14:48] I assume jbicha will come back to use once it is ready [14:48] on him and incomplete - no action to be taken here [14:48] #topic Process/Documentation improvements [14:48] Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues [14:48] #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls [14:48] #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues [14:48] nothing new [14:49] this section is muhc quicker since we did our cleanup [14:49] thanks! [14:49] #topic MIR related Security Review Queue [14:49] Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? [14:49] Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place. [14:49] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:49] #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir [14:49] Internal link [14:49] - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect [14:49] - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much [14:49] #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 [14:49] sarnold: you said progress is slow and time is scarce - any improvement? === didrocks999 is now known as didrocks [14:50] cpaelzer: a little, I had another conversation with management yesterday, who have promised some movement -- but nothing concrete yet, I think (I haven't checked scrollback yet this morning) [14:50] I see the backlog growing relative to the things in progress [14:50] we know two more currently in MIR review that likely will be added [14:51] there is not much more to be said [14:51] hoping for you to get people or time and if possible both sarnold [14:51] #topic Any other business? [14:51] nothing for me [14:51] none here [14:51] you all please raise awareness in your respective teams of the coming feature freeze in less than a month [14:51] *gasp* [14:51] yes, time flies that fast [14:52] nothing else from me today [14:52] didrocks: jamespage: anything you need to raise? [14:52] or joalif if you read this today? [14:52] nothing either. I’ll have some forwarding to do :) [14:52] ok [14:52] I'll put my reminder for the AA movements [14:52] that is all for today then [14:52] I misread "do any of you need a raise?" :) [14:52] heh [14:53] sarnold: I can't help with that [14:53] ok then [14:54] https://oeis.org/A017666 [14:54] 7 [14:54] 1 [14:54] 5 [14:54] 4 [14:54] 3 [14:54] 2 [14:54] 1 [14:54] #endmeeting [14:54] Meeting ended at 14:54:33 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-07-16-14.32.moin.txt [14:54] :) [14:54] thanks cpaelzer, all! [14:54] thanks cpaelzer, all :) [14:54] see you all, thanks [14:55] thanks all! [14:59] rust 1.74 already in universe, 1.75 somewhere lost in between, 1.76 in main already, but not all [14:59] that is like component mismatch whack-a-mole [15:01] (and 1.77 in my personal sponsoring queue) === pushkarnk1 is now known as pushkarnk === pushkarnk1 is now known as pushkarnk === ejat is now known as fenris [19:01] o/ [19:01] o/ [19:01] Looks like I'm chairing [19:02] Anyone else here? [19:02] #startmeeting Technical Board [19:02] Meeting started at 19:02:26 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology [19:02] Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick [19:02] #topic Apologies [19:02] #info amurray sends his apologies [19:03] Maybe vorlon is around? [19:03] #info vorlon and seb128 are absent [19:03] #topic Action review [19:03] ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification [19:04] This is in progress. The draft is pretty much ready to convert to Markdown for Discourse. Please see my final edits to see if you're happy with them. I will continue regardless unless there are any objections. [19:04] #action Oh I'm sorry. That's for the next item. [19:04] ACTION: Oh I'm sorry. That's for the next item. [19:04] * vorlon waves [19:04] #undo [19:04] Removing item from minutes: ACTION [19:04] sorry I'm late [19:04] o/ [19:05] Oooh, didn't know about the undo feature! [19:05] The DMB item is in the queue behind this other one [19:05] #action rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification [19:05] ACTION: rbasak to draft a proposal of the DMB-proposed inactivity expiration policy for TB ratification [19:05] #action rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy [19:05] ACTION: rbasak to open wider discussion on third-party repo policy [19:05] as above [19:05] vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays [19:05] well [19:06] carry-over :) [19:06] #action vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays [19:06] ACTION: vorlon to look into scripting for packages in flavor-specific overlays [19:06] seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations [19:06] He isn't here so I'll carry over. [19:06] #action seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations [19:06] ACTION: seb128 to continue working with SRU, AA, Release, Backporters and Security teams to document their membership process and link to it from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoard#Team_Delegations [19:06] sil2100 to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification re the number of contacts listed for the flavor [19:06] So regarding this one === pushkarnk1 is now known as pushkarnk [19:06] I'm fine in proceeding, but wanted to ask around if we still think this is necesasry [19:07] Cinnamon has been labelled LTS for 24.04, if we think chasing down on this is still a valid action, I can do that [19:07] I still want clarification of the contacts [19:08] Fine by me, the doc does show quite a mish-mash of people there [19:08] as we still need to be able to manage point releases of this flavor for years [19:08] Let me start drafting an e-mail then [19:08] Shall I carry this one over then? [19:08] Yes please [19:08] #action sil2100 to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification re the number of contacts listed for the flavor [19:08] ACTION: sil2100 to follow up on the Cinnamon 24.04 LTS Qualification re the number of contacts listed for the flavor [19:08] #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) [19:08] There are a couple [19:09] "Ubuntu Studio Minimal ISO" from Eickmeyer [19:09] #subtopic Ubuntu Studio Minimal ISO [19:09] Is there any action for the TB or can it be left to the release team to handle? [19:09] I think this is with the release team for now [19:09] THanks [19:10] #agreed There is no TB action on this at the moment. We will leave this for the release team to handle [19:10] AGREED: There is no TB action on this at the moment. We will leave this for the release team to handle [19:10] #subtopic Extended Ubuntu Flavor Build Failure [19:10] I only just moderated this one through [19:10] It's in the archive if you haven't seen it yet: [19:10] #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2024-July/002933.html [19:11] What action do we need to take, if any? [19:11] in this morning's release team meeting I asked that the TB be informed that a flavor has been broken for a while in devel and that the flavor contacts have not been responsive [19:11] I don't think there's any action to take at this time for the TB [19:11] Thanks [19:11] they're not currently out of compliance w/ the release guidelines [19:11] Do we need to assume that there won't be a Mate release then, going forward, unless something changes? [19:11] I just don't want it to come as a surprise to anybody if they miss oracular [19:12] it's currently not releasable for oracular, yes [19:12] #agreed No specific TB action to take, but we won't expect there to be an Oracular release for Mate unless we make contact with their leads again [19:12] AGREED: No specific TB action to take, but we won't expect there to be an Oracular release for Mate unless we make contact with their leads again [19:12] oh - I see the email mentions "flavor lead", but of course the LTS qual guidelines now say there must be multiple flavor contacts :) [19:12] +1 === rbasak changed the topic of #ubuntu-meeting to: Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs [19:13] I don't know who all has been contacted, I'll follow up to the mail to make sure [19:13] Do you want an action item for that? [19:13] you can [19:13] #undo [19:13] Removing item from minutes: AGREED [19:13] Oh, hmm. [19:13] #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) [19:14] #subtopic Extended Ubuntu Flavor Build Failure [19:14] #action vorlon to follow up on Ubuntu Mate lead contact by email [19:14] ACTION: vorlon to follow up on Ubuntu Mate lead contact by email [19:14] #agreed No specific TB action to take, but we won't expect there to be an Oracular release for Mate unless we make contact with their leads again [19:14] AGREED: No specific TB action to take, but we won't expect there to be an Oracular release for Mate unless we make contact with their leads again [19:14] #topic Check up on community bugs and techboard bugs [19:14] #info No community bugs listed [19:15] #info No new techboard bugs; the existing ones have action items [19:15] #topic Select a chair for the next meeting [19:15] #info The next chair will be seb128 with vorlon as backup [19:15] #topic AOB [19:15] AOB? [19:16] Nothing from me [19:16] #info No other business [19:16] #endmeeting [19:16] Meeting ended at 19:16:42 UTC. Minutes at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-07-16-19.02.moin.txt [19:16] Thanks all! [19:16] thanks [19:19] rbasak: thank you for chairing! :)