=== jfsimon1981 is now known as jfsimon
[16:28] <Bert> Hey there! I noticed that an application I was expecting in Ubuntu 24.04 is missing from Universe. Is adding to Universe after freezes a thing? I'm not sure if freezes apply to the entire release or just main and restricted.
[16:44] <RikMills> Bert: generally, no, it is not a thing. there are limited exceptions like when something we really need to update have gained new dependencies
[16:44] <RikMills> Bet
[16:45] <RikMills> Bert: what is the app that is 'missing'? was it previously in Ubuntu?
[16:45] <Bert> I was expecting xplayer to have gone from "a dude's ppa" to Universe by now but forgot to check up on it
[16:45] <Bert> so it's far from special
[16:46] <Bert> I mostly just really like adaptive scroll scrubbing which is a feature totem used to have pre-GNOME3-ification and then I got it back through xplayer (though less good)
[16:46] <Bert> just went from 18.04 to 24.04 and finding it /challenging/ :P
[16:47] <Bert> with mint recently committing further to x-apps, I expected them to push them to either Debian or Ubuntu universe so they'd have less work for Mint and more general exposure for the applications
[16:53] <RikMills> only thing I can find is https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=830624
[16:53] -ubottu:#ubuntu-devel- Debian bug 830624 in wnpp "RFP: xplayer -- GTK media player based on GStreamer for the Xapps project" [Wishlist, Open]
[16:58] <Bert> RikMills: what an odd discussion. I didn't know Debian actively refused projects if they had a community and no outstanding issues preventing packaging
[16:58] <Bert> I guess that explains further why there are so many audio and video players and managers exclusively distributed using flatpak/snap/appimage/...
[17:00] <Bert> then again, lots of people have a good reason to not be happy about how mint does many things, I don't think we disagree there