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sprokkelHi Question: I need an iptables expert: I have this computer with two network interfaces, both have internet connection. I want to send DNS traffic through interf1 and HTTP(S) traffic through interf2. I have this script https://paste.linux.chat/?c05dbc81ca6949bc#ESyXVQfmvUYD7NmmZbWSZumn2bHdBcahWuzuvesYLjNM but I can't get it work. Any idea's?06:19
qvqhello08:04
qvqBayangan: hello08:05
qvqI need a sovereign healthcare plan08:06
qvqI looked at startups in Israel since I will ne the sourcecode for the only sovereign nation on earth and they look like botscript business08:08
qvqNanovation wasn't enough bloodpressure telemetry08:08
qvqthat is like script kiddy stuff08:08
qvqget real08:09
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PeGaSuSwhen using `apt build-dep <package>` can I tell APT to noty install a specific dependency? in this case, I have `libcurl4-openssl-dev` but `apt build-dep weechat` wants to replace it with `libcurl4-gnutls-dev` and I rather keep the openssl one09:39
sixwheeledbeastpin the one you want to keep?09:41
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pacan 22.04 run on 5.4 series kernel?09:54
pai mean, it does on 5.1509:54
ravageI don't know if it can. It is not supported at all09:58
ravageSo avoid it at almost any cost09:58
sixwheeledbeastwhy, is may first thought.10:00
sixwheeledbeastmy10:00
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j_w_tyes it can... Check out the mainline project.11:32
BluesKajHi all12:13
lotuspsychj3|N3on21|: did your bug changed to a private bug or so?12:17
pekdonhello there12:29
lotuspsychj3welcome pekdon12:30
Snoophi12:40
lotuspsychj3welcome Snoop12:41
realivanjxso my ubuntu server just froze for some reason and rebooted because of watchdog timer. where can i start to look for in the system?12:46
CosmicDJrealivanjx: I'd start with the kernel logs in the journal12:47
realivanjxwhich file is it? sorry im not really familiar with kernel log files12:48
realivanjxis it /var/log/kern.log?12:49
ravagesudo journalctl --list-boots12:49
ravagesudo journalctl -k -b-112:49
realivanjx"sudo journalctl -k -b-1" the last log from there was like an hour+ ago12:52
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lotuspsychj3not here nuke9712:52
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lotuspsychj3!ops | nuke9712:52
ubottunuke97: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant12:52
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nuke97πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ U S A N o .1 πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡ΈπŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ12:52
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realivanjx:|13:03
RuleTheWorldπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA!13:06
RuleTheWorldπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA!13:06
RuleTheWorldπŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA!13:06
Infrared_!ops | RuleTheWorld13:06
ubottuRuleTheWorld: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant13:06
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Infrared_!ops | hey13:09
ubottuhey: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant13:09
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everyplzzaπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA!13:09
everyplzzaπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA!13:09
everyplzzaπŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ USA! πŸ΄β€β˜ οΈ USA! πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ USA!13:09
pragmaticenigmaInfrared_: best to just let this run its course, if you keep doing that, it only encourages it to happen more because they know someone is paying attention13:10
Infrared_pragmaticenigma: If it's better not to let the operators know that somebody is flooding the channel, perhaps having an option to message them in an emergency doesn't make much sense :) It doesn't seem to be doing much to stop the flag-waving psychopaths in the audience13:10
pragmaticenigmaInfrared_: it's happening in multiple channels right now, if anything, it's probably up to libera admins to take action at this point.13:11
Infrared_pragmaticenigma: They already have :) At least somebody is awake today.13:12
pragmaticenigmaInfrared_: you can also join the ops channel and message directly there. It usually better than the bot trigger here when it comes to spammers13:12
sixwheeledbeastozone?13:13
Infrared_Poor guy seems to be having connection problems all of a sudden, must have waved his flag too hard and got on somebody's nerves :)\13:15
BluesKajhis ip published so....13:23
BluesKajLA13:24
pragmaticenigmaIn this day, IP spoofing is the norm, so are proxy gateways, VPNs, and tor. IP address really means nothing13:25
BluesKajyeah but maybe not savvy enough to use one13:26
BluesKajnot everyone is like you  pragmaticenigma :-)13:27
pragmaticenigmajust sayin' since a few IPs were coming from the same subnet for that spammer13:28
JymGood morning, I was working with someone last week, but got disconnected. My question/issue is listed here https://pastebin.com/raw/s2ag0cHa14:13
sixwheeledbeastProbably the simplest way is to use "=saved" and save the last kernel loaded if you can instruct them to do that.14:25
Jymsixwheeledbeast Currently booted into -113. So if I changeΒ  GRUB_DEFAULT=saved14:28
JymΒ GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true, then sudo update-grub it should take?Β  I'm kinda curious as to why the boot MENU isn't being displayed as well.14:28
Jym...or why the 20 second timer isn't working14:28
pragmaticenigmaJym: I think there are two settings for the boot menu... setting the timeout is one of them, and another to actually display it always14:29
Jympragmaticenigma I have =menu and nsplash removed14:30
sixwheeledbeasttimeout style menu14:30
Jymnosplash*14:31
pragmaticenigmaJym: I think the option is GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT ... where the grub screen remain blanked, but accessible if the user presses the right key14:31
pragmaticenigmawithin the defined timeout14:31
pragmaticenigmanosplash is for the plymouth boot screen, does not affect grub14:31
JymGRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu14:32
sixwheeledbeastI don't have hidden timeout and i get grub on boot...14:32
pragmaticenigmaJym: that's not what I'm referring to... there is GRUB_TIMEOUT and GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT ... they are two separate things14:34
sixwheeledbeasthidden timeout is for a countdown to press a button for grub14:34
JymI'm not wanting anything hidden, and I thought I disabled all that?14:35
pragmaticenigmaNo: The time the screen remains blank but available for display is determined by a setting in /etc/default/grub (GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT)14:35
sixwheeledbeasthttps://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Simple-configuration.html14:35
pragmaticenigmahttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub214:35
pragmaticenigmaUnder the section Hidden14:35
sixwheeledbeastAIUI they want grub menu on boot not a countdown and then grub menu14:37
pragmaticenigmayou're not reading what I'm saying14:37
pragmaticenigmaThere are TWO options. One sets the countdown timer... the other keeps the screen blank while the timer counts down. If you press the shift key within that time, the menu will appear14:38
JymOk, but I DO NOT want a blank screen, just give a menu. Haven't I already disabled all the "hidden" things?14:39
pragmaticenigmaGRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is that option, adding it and setting it to zero should result in the GRUB menu always displaying on boot14:39
JymOH14:39
Jymadding GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 will display the menu, but still give the 20 seconds until it boots the default?14:40
pragmaticenigmaI'm trying to find the exact documentation to make sure what I'm saying is correct. but that should be correct14:40
pragmaticenigmaJym: On this documenation https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Simple-configuration.html ... look for "GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT"... it explains Wait this many seconds before displaying the menu. If ESC or F4 are pressed, or SHIFT is held down during that time, display the menu and wait for input according to β€˜GRUB_TIMEOUT’. If a hotkey associated with a menu entry is pressed, boot the associated menu entry immediate14:42
pragmaticenigmaly. If the timeout expires before either of these happens, display the menu for the number of seconds specified in β€˜GRUB_TIMEOUT’ before booting the default entry.14:42
pragmaticenigmaJym: Make sure that GRUB_TIMEOUT is not set to zero, or the menu will never be displayed unless the hot keys are already held down when GRUB loads14:43
JymGRUB_TIMEOUT=2014:45
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Jympragmaticenigma Does this look correct? https://pastebin.com/raw/ckVY6g8s14:54
Jymsixwheeledbeast more eyes never hurts =)Β Β  ^^^^^14:55
pragmaticenigmaJym: Currently reading up on the GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE option, which appears to be preferred over the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT14:56
Jympragmaticenigma I never actually got a menu displayed. Had to have her hit ESC then go into ADVANCED menu to select -11314:57
pragmaticenigmaJym: was the GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE already set to menu before, or is that change you've made today?14:59
JymYes, it was already set to MENU before today14:59
JymWhen the menu never appeared, I enabled the BEEP to let her know when to hit the ESC key.15:00
pragmaticenigmagive me a moment to that config here15:01
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Guest46Error: Connection activation failed: 802.1X supplicant took too long to authenticate15:01
Guest46how do i setup a wpa3 personal hotspot on ubuntu 24.0415:02
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sixwheeledbeastwas afk, i have just re read I still dont get why the other option even matters. To make it easier to read just remove the duplicated commented lines.15:06
sixwheeledbeastyou have grub default twice as well15:07
Jymsixwheeledbeast It's jsut my way if a muck something up, I know what it was and can revert back15:08
sixwheeledbeastcopy the original file elsewhere before you edit it.15:09
JymOh I made a backup of every edit =)15:09
sixwheeledbeastYou will be able to read it better and pick up this double entry.15:10
pragmaticenigmaJym: I was able to confirm that you do not need to use `GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0` when using `GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu`15:11
JymI only see one for GRUB_DEFAULT=1 (plus one commented out above it) https://pastebin.com/raw/ckVY6g8s15:11
pragmaticenigmaso that kind of puts us back at where you started this conversation15:12
Jympragmaticenigma Ok, I'll comment out the =0 line15:12
pragmaticenigmaJym: I'd just remove it entirely. It is documented as a deprecated feature. Removed due to its confusing name15:12
pragmaticenigmaGRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE was added to replace it15:12
sixwheeledbeastthis is my file, which always shows the menu for 10 seconds on boot before selecting option 0 (first in the list). https://pastebin.com/raw/pa8wGMcx15:13
pragmaticenigmathat's pretty much the same that I had for my testing as well15:15
sixwheeledbeastYou need to replace GRUB_DEFAULT to =saved and then add GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true the line under that. You will probably want to clear my fsck option if you use that file.15:16
JymHere is the current grub (before update-grub) https://pastebin.com/raw/fvE7C5nU15:17
pragmaticenigmaJym: when commmiting these changes... are you using `sudo update-grub2` ?15:17
sixwheeledbeastyou still have default twice15:17
sixwheeledbeast...15:17
Jymsixwheeledbeast I see it now, will remove the =115:18
Jympragmaticenigma No, just update-grub, not update-grub215:19
sixwheeledbeastyou didn't have to remove all the comments :P just helps without the dups.15:20
Jym=)15:20
sixwheeledbeastshould be right then if you update-grub.15:22
pragmaticenigmaJym: nevermind, it was a goose chase... I thought there was a difference until I found /usr/sbin/update-grub2 is just symlined to /usr/sbin/update-grub15:23
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Jympragmaticenigma No worries, I man update-grub and got:Β  update-grubΒ  is a stub for running grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg15:24
JymΒ Β Β Β Β Β  to generate a grub2 config file.15:24
JymOk, I'll run sudo -H update-grub, reboot, and see what happens =)15:26
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sixwheeledbeastYou'll obviously have to select the correct menu entry for it to save for the next boot.15:30
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Jymsixwheeledbeast But the issue that remains is there is no MENU being displayed. I'm in kernel -113 right now because she hit ESC and went into the ADVANCED menu and selected it.15:35
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pragmaticenigmaJym: The beep might be happening before the screen has time to display anything. Is your contact maybe needing to wait just a count of 2 before pressing any keys?15:37
sixwheeledbeastdoes selecting the correct kernel work at least?15:37
pragmaticenigmaJym: or, perhaps your contact needs to just trust the process and let it try to boot all on its own for a cycle?15:38
Jympragmaticenigma I enabled the BEEP because no menu was being displayed, and the 20 second timer wasn't being acknowledged.15:39
Jymhttps://pastebin.com/raw/sLxt1mua15:39
Jymsixwheeledbeast Only from the ADVANCED menu15:39
Jymmanually involked15:39
sixwheeledbeaston the next boot if you leave it to timeout it doesn't auto select 113?15:40
JymI'll find out in 90 seconds =)15:40
pragmaticenigmaJym: I think the issue might be that paitence is needed. The beep is there to indicate there's a menu. But it may take a moment or two for the graphics display to sync and display the text. ... oh okay, you're already having them try the wait and see suggestion15:40
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JymDamn, booted into -11615:42
sixwheeledbeastso it's not reading the file.15:43
JymI thoguht that might be the issue, but then I enabled BEEP and that worked15:44
JymSo it's reading at least SOME of the file15:44
BertHi. I'm migrating from Ubuntu 18.04 to a new installation of Ubuntu 24.04 and I've been noticing something strange. I thought all fonts looked quite "thin" so I wanted to go from Ubuntu Regular to Ubuntu Medium inside "Appearance" but even after logging out or rebooting there's zero difference. However, when I change to a completely different font, the change is immediate and huge. Do other people have this15:46
Bertsame issue? I feel like this is a bug to do with space escaping/quoting where it's always picking Ubuntu Light instead of Regular or Medium or Bold, but I'd love other to help verify this.15:46
Bert*others15:47
pragmaticenigmaI don't have 24.04 on anything. but if you have scaling enabled for a higher resolution display, that might be something to look into15:48
ioriaBert, are you talking about this ? https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2023/04/restore-old-fonts-ubuntu-2304/15:49
Bertit's on autodetect on the "monitor preferences" thing15:50
sixwheeledbeastJym: it will fallback if there is something wrong. double check the file again. did you run grub-mkconfig like it suggests?15:51
Bertioria: I wasn't aware of that even15:51
BertI was just comparing settings between 18.04 and 24.0415:51
Bertand I noticed that changing boldness did nothing and that the preview doesn't match reality15:52
Bertit feels very bugged honestly15:52
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ioriaBert, can you try to set bold text in gnome-terminal preferences ?15:53
Bertioria: mate-terminal, but sure15:53
Jymsixwheeledbeast Current grub file: https://pastebin.com/raw/VZ5zAeGEΒ  --Β  Never touched grub-mkconfig, just update-grub15:54
Bertioria: in my terminal if I overwrite system defaults it does make a difference15:54
Berthow odd15:54
ioriaBert, ok, thanks15:54
BertI do feel like it's just always applying the same Ubuntu font from "Appearance Preferences"15:55
Bertbut I'm gonna try that blogpost you linked15:55
Bertthat sounds interesting15:55
ioriaBert, if you install fonts-ubuntu-classic it will remove the Splash... be cautious15:55
pragmaticenigmaJym: Get them to boot all the way with 113. Then do a clean shutdown. Then have them to do the start up and just let it do its thing. Boot is the hardest, most patience testing thing to deal with15:57
Bertioria: it's weird, it complains but it went ahead15:58
Bertand didn't remove any dependencies15:58
ioriaah, ok15:58
Jympragmaticenigma I can get to 113, but only via ESC > ADVANCED > then selecting 113. Will that be enough?15:58
Bertit looks much better after a logout and login15:59
Bertmust say this was quite odd:15:59
Bertdpkg: fonts-ubuntu: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested:15:59
Bert ubuntu-mate-default-settings depends on fonts-ubuntu.15:59
Bert plymouth-label depends on fonts-ubuntu.15:59
Bert mate-desktop-environment-core depends on fonts-cantarell | fonts-ubuntu; however:15:59
Bert  Package fonts-cantarell is not installed.15:59
pragmaticenigmaJym: for the first go, yes. then try a reboot after that is successful. I'm not familiar with the saved option, I'm wondering if there's some other way to trigger that?16:00
ioriaBert, does not sound safe16:00
Jympragmaticenigma Yeah, I was thinking that too (abut the trigger).16:01
Bertioria: yeah I'm gonna try and see what I can do to make dependencies happy16:01
ioriaBert, check the 'autoremove'16:01
Bertautoremove and -f install don't want to change anything, how odd16:02
ioriaBert, dpkg -l | grep plymouth16:02
Bertall results have "ii" status16:03
ioriaok16:03
Bertodd16:03
Bertit doesn't feel like this should be fine :P16:03
ioriayep16:03
Bertto be fair, all these dependencies should be "fonts-ubuntu | fonts-ubuntu-classic"16:05
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Bertor fonts-ubuntu-classic should supply fonts-ubuntu hence fulfilling the depency still16:05
Bertmaybe that's still what's happening?16:05
Bertah yeah: Provides: fonts-ubuntu16:06
Bertthen it ought to be fine and just not complain16:06
Bertvery very odd16:06
beowuffAnyone here use byobu, or know where I can find info? I'm having trouble finding any suggestions about running byobu and then connecting to a host with byobu and best practices.16:21
pragmaticenigmabeowuff: I just use tmux directly, not sure what byobu adds beyond being a wrapper around screen/tmux16:26
beowuffIt adds a few nice features that I like. Basically, sets up tmux in a way that I like, but I get it.16:28
beowuffWhat do you do about running tmux in tmux? Like, multiple layers through sshing to other hosts.16:29
beowuffI'm just wondering what kind of issues there might be and/or work arounds, or if I should just not worry about it. XD16:30
beowuffSearching for byobu in byobu doesn't return anything helpful. :)16:30
pragmaticenigmatook me way too much effort to finally land here: https://github.com/dustinkirkland/byobu16:31
beowuffWow, that actually worked as a search for tmux, though.16:31
beowuffOkay, thanks for the link. I'll check it out.16:32
pragmaticenigmaThat's just the source code from the developer.. I found the project page with a ton of dead links16:32
beowuffYou know, it's weird. I've searched byobu a ton, and never came across the code.16:32
pragmaticenigmaI found it buried deep... they don't link to their repo on the site from what I can tell. or not a very good link. Just to a build file on launchpad. From there, I found a link to it's project page, and from there found a change log entry stating thigns were migrated to github16:33
beowuffEh, maybe I should just dive deeper into tmux.16:34
pragmaticenigmabeowuff: the only issue I can think of running multi-layers in any of them is status bars being used. They both can take up a couple lines at the bottom of the screen for their status. Which may make working in multi-layer a little more difficult16:35
pragmaticenigmaI get the appeal though... SSH into a primary target machine, then SSH from there to other machines. If the primary machine connection is lost, it can be re-established without having to start all over16:36
beowuffI'm sshing in from a mac using iTerm2, so I'm not too worried about layering. I can't imagine ever going more than three deep, but I suppose there's always the possibility.16:36
pragmaticenigmaand having a similar session on the secondary machines means those sessions can be re-established too16:36
beowuffAlright, I've got a lot to think/read now. You guys are awesome! Thank you.16:37
Jympragmaticenigma sixwheeledbeast Well, it FINALLY worked!Β  When the BEEP happened, hit SPACE, then ADVANCED, then 113, rebooted and it became the "saved default". Rebooted a couple of times and 113 was booted up without any intervention. If you hit ESC at the BEEP, it dropped to a grub prompt (thus SPACE instead).16:45
pragmaticenigmainteresting16:46
Jympragmaticenigma So, selecting 113 from ADVANCED is a trigger for SAVED at least =)16:46
pragmaticenigmathat would make sense. odd that the differentiation is between using Escape versus Space to get there16:47
JymYeah, no clue on that, no mention of SPACE either,Β  -shrug-16:48
Jymundocumented feature =)16:48
Jympragmaticenigma sixwheeledbeast Just wanted to thank you guys, very much appreciated =)16:49
* pragmaticenigma wonders what f4 would do16:50
JymDO IT, what could go wrong???16:50
enigma9o7how bout a game of global thermonuclear war?16:51
Jymtic-tac-toe...16:51
pragmaticenigmaJym: I'll keep it in mind when I start decommissioning that system. Right now it's vital to a few things for my network16:52
Jympragmaticenigma Got backup?16:52
pragmaticenigmaabout half way through a thought occured to me that I could have done the testing i was doing in a VM16:52
pragmaticenigmaJym: what's a backup?! *smirk*16:53
pragmaticenigma"backups" are already provisioned and running under Rocky Linux. just a couple loose ends to tie up16:54
Jympragmaticenigma I'm at a point now that I am working on dual independent systems that will just rsync to each other at the system level. Will be in conjunction with ventoy running a VM on baremetal =)16:55
pragmaticenigmaThe new machines are running docker instances of the things I have running "bare metal" under ubuntu. DNS being one of them. Ubuntu is just still set as the primary DNS, so when it goes down, the natives get restless16:56
enigma9o7ventoy can boot VMs now?  That's quite a development.17:00
JymI haven't even looked at Dockers. I like the idea of booting a VM on bare metal, then I can clone (maybe snapshot) to a compeltely different box17:01
Jymenigma9o7 YeahΒ  https://www.ventoy.net/en/doc_vlnk.html17:02
pragmaticenigmaJym: I'm not completely sold on the idea of docker, but the nice thing is that I can have all my data stored locally, and easily update the docker container with the application without risk of loss of data. Same goes for easier migrations17:03
Jympragmaticenigma I got my ass bitten WAY TOO MUCH to muck with something "new" right now, just want something that is reliable. I had a brown out wipe out the PS, mobo, boot disc, and one of 4 drives in the NAS.17:05
Jymtwo hp elite in tandem works for me17:05
Jymeach with a 4TB nvme for data17:06
pragmaticenigmawell... docker isn't going to solve hardware failures... though if the data survives, getting back online is a lot easier17:09
JymTWO of these (as example) https://www.amazon.com/HP-EliteDesk-Quad-Core-Professional-Bit-Multi-Language-English/dp/B08KSGKHVS17:11
pragmaticenigmawell... there's ya problem.. HP :P17:12
JymLMAO I haven't bought them yet =)17:12
JymThey have good reviews on YT17:12
Jymthey also have m2 slots for 4TB NVME =)17:13
JymUsing a 256GB SSD is way overkill for a ventoy boot drive, but so what?!Β  lol17:14
JymI jut wish it had 10GigE port =)17:15
ElliriaHey there. I've got a LibreOffice Calc spreadsheet that consists of three pages. One has text in two of the cells and the other two pages each have a small table followed by a chart generated from the table. When I export to PDF, all three pages are exported, but the Table of Contents in the PDF sidebar only shows one clickable page. Any idea what I should change to get all three clickable pages in that sidebar?17:32
ElliriaI thought I'd add that I've created lots of PDF files from LibreOffice Writer and not seen this behavior. I'm not sure if it's a Calc thing or not, but this is new to me.17:33
JymElliria you might try #LibreOffice17:35
pragmaticenigmaIt might be more to do with "pages" really aren't a thing in spreadsheets. just that when printing/publishing to a fixed size format, that the program has to arbitrarially cut the spread into sections to fit.17:35
pragmaticenigmaElliria: You may have luck putting things into separate sheets within the file. Maybe each sheet will get it's own page in the TOC.17:36
ElliriaYep. I just tried that and it seems to be the magic. Thank you!17:37
ElliriaApparently, even though sheets are separated into pages (as shown by the little indicator lines on them), that doesn't count when it comes to exporting. Interesting.17:38
pragmaticenigmayep... they just help you see if you were printing where the page breaks would line up. But there's no way to indicate what each segment represents, so it would be considered all part of the same overall sheet17:39
ElliriaWell, this is definitely good to know and will end up in my ever-growing personal wiki so I don't forget it later. Heh.17:39
pragmaticenigmaThe folks in #libreoffice may have more suggestions to help fill it out more17:40
ElliriaAh, true. Thanks.17:41
ElliriaNobody replied there, but this worked perfectly and I've now got a sharable document. Thank you so much!17:51
JymThe lights are on, but nobody's home =)17:58
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Juesthello, is it possible to upgrade a installation successfully over chroot?19:00
Juesttrying to upgrade 22.04 to 24.0419:00
Juestthinking in performing the upgrade via chroot on a different distro19:01
Juesti understand if its not supported but, is it possible?19:01
Juestshould it be a systemd distro and preferably ubuntu?19:01
pragmaticenigmaNot recommended, and not likely something that would be supported here. Official upgrade tools and channels are preferred for support here19:02
Juestagain i understand that19:02
Juestthanks pragmaticenigma19:03
pragmaticenigmaJuest: if you're working from a broken system, chroot would be a tool used to help resolve that. Upgrades have a lot of pre and post scripts to be run before and after packages are upgraded. So the correct sources are pulled for future updates.19:04
Juestpragmaticenigma: i am simply looking to upgrade it that way because i refuse to reboot to it19:04
pragmaticenigmaJuest: 22.04 has a long life ahead of it... if it's working for you now, you have some time before you will have to upgrade to get a newer kernel to keep up with vulnerability patching.19:06
Juestright, well then i'd be interested in keeping it up to date through chroot upgrading19:07
Juests/upgrading//19:07
Juestand also to gain some personal experience with that aspect19:08
pragmaticenigmaokay, as I said, it's not supported update mechanism. chroot isn't for doing that. It's typically for taking a storage volume from a non-working machine, putting it into a working machine then using chroot to use the active kernel with the software located on the broken volume. It's not an upgrading tool19:10
Juestonce again i am aware of that but i do see the ability to update systems offline through the power of chrooting19:11
pragmaticenigmaI don't know where you gotten that idea... that's not its purpose... and your phrasing leads me to believe you're just here to troll19:12
Juestpragmaticenigma: okay, you're showing rigidity about experimental ideas. i am not here to troll. i guess the conversation is over then.19:14
ApachezIm too lazy to file any bugreport but in case somebody cares - updating from 22.04 LTS to 24.04 LTS (old install thats been alive since 18.xx somewhere) fails to install systemd-resolved which means that halfway the do-release-upgrade it will fail with fetching snap images and completing the install19:15
Apachezworkaround is to manually add xx.archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com and api.snapcraft.io to the /etc/hosts and then before reboot manuall add systemd-resolved through "apt-get install systemd-resolved"19:16
oerhekschroot is a kind of way booting it19:17
oerheksApachez, did you use the -d option? upgrade path is not out yet19:18
pragmaticenigmaApachez: I think sometime around the 18.04 release there was a recommendation to do a clean install and not an upgrade. Though I'm uncertain on that. But something you should know... posting about bugs here does nothing. This channel is not monitored for bug reports, and a bug report requires being able to recreate the issue which is why you wuold need to file the bug report so you can file all the relevant information about your system19:19
pragmaticenigmato help developers recreate and fix the issue.19:19
pragmaticenigmaJuest: if you want experimental stuff like that, I recommend asking in #linux then19:20
Juestah, good to have a reminder of the upgrade path of 22.04 to 24.04 not being allowed yet19:21
oerheksif you do, prepare a fresh 24.04 iso on usb19:21
Juestso once its august i can start thinking in upgrading my ubuntu installs19:21
Juestoh? but the existing system does currently function19:22
oerhekswill it, if you use the -d development upgrade ?19:22
oerheksofcourse i wish you do not need it.19:23
pragmaticenigmajust don't use the -d ... especially with the release of it going to be so near in the future... just wait, less of a headache if something breaks19:23
Juestim not planning to preemptively upgrade with the -d option19:24
Juesti have read that the upgrade path enablement is slated for august 202419:33
oerheksaround 15th19:36
Bertit's parallel with the 24.04.1 release, no?19:39
BertI used to just wait for that19:39
pragmaticenigmaNot so much parallel, as much as Ubuntu 24.04 is considered stable with the realse of 24.04.1 and thus they activate the upgrade channels from older versions19:41
chrisgtI have ubuntu 24.04 and cannot get the grub menu on boot by holding down or mashing shift.19:47
chrisgtI installed a bad kernel and had to fix it from chroot on a live recovery boot, would have been easy if i could boot to grub19:47
oerheksit could be esc or left shift, tap repeatedly19:49
oerhekssee the grub manual19:49
oerheks!grub19:49
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:49
pragmaticenigmachrisgt: are you asking for help, or just making a comment about your experience?19:49
oerheksprobably an UEFI machine?19:49
pragmaticenigmalet them reply19:49
chrisgti'm looking for help, sorry for giving the backstory on why19:51
chrisgtI was mashing left shift, i'll try right shift and esc19:51
pragmaticenigmachrisgt: might work better to press and hold shift instead. I really do not understand why Ubuntu ships with a zero timeout on grub... it should be at least 3 seconds to give people a chance to press a key to get the screen to come up19:52
pragmaticenigmachrisgt: when you say installed a bad kernel, I assume one that you compiled yourself or got from another source than the ubuntu software repos?19:53
chrisgtESC gets me there, the problem is hitting ESC in the main grub window brings you to the grub shell, ESC also brings up some EFI info page... fun!19:53
oerheksleft shift it is. but have fun, trying somthing different.19:53
chrisgtyea i compiled a kernel myself as a have an issue with the hfsplus driver and wanted debug info, add some stuff to dmesg, and the latest source19:54
chrisgtleft shift doesn't work, allows it to boot19:54
oerheksweird, then there must be more users complaining, search the forums on your machine id?19:57
oerheksleft shift or esc, there is no other key defined.19:58
chrisgtESC works, it's just annoying because it brings me to the EFI info screen, then if i hold it down it exits the grub selection screen to the grub shell19:58
pragmaticenigmachrisgt: for your future self... when messing with kernels... change your grub settings to have a longer timeout and not hide the grub boot menu19:59
pragmaticenigma*grub configuration19:59
chrisgtpragmaticenigma: lol yea, i'll certainly do that. i use debian everywhere else other than this laptop so this kinda caught me off guard19:59
pragmaticenigma`/etc/default/grub` change GRUB_TIMEOUT=20 (or some other sane seconds count) and GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=menu20:00
chrisgtawesome, thanks20:00
pragmaticenigmaluckily hadn't closed that tab from earlier today :)20:01
chrisgti haven't had to compile a whole kernel for quite a long time, this one really threw me for a loop20:02
Apachezoerheks: nope, no -d20:13
Apachezpragmaticenigma: I know, I was just hoping IF somebody cars and have a bugzilla account (or wherever bugs end up at) they could just copy paste my lines :)20:14
Apachezoerheks: which was why I got surprised, I thought it would go to 23.10 first (or even 22.10, 23.04 etc) but it jumped straight to 24.04 from 22.0420:15
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oerheksno, upgrade or do-release-upgrade does not work yet. weird.20:43
toddc24.04.1?20:47
oerheksyes, in august20:47
toddcyes I would not expect inplace upgrade till then20:48
toddcand still prefer clean installs either way if possible --less chance of issues20:50
de-factowhen ssh collapses in the middle of a apt upgrade session, how do i re-run the post install scripts of all those packages?21:05
enigma9o7it tells you when you try to apt upgrade, something about dpkg cfg -a or something but that isnt quite it21:05
oerheksapt install -f21:06
enigma9o7(so just try to apt upgrade and see what it tells you, it'll give you the exact command)21:06
justme_I'm sorry to ask but after I did a atp upgrade and it updated the kernel things are starting to breaking including my vm's that now won't start21:13
justme_How do I tell ubuntu from within ubuntu to use a earlier kernel at next reboot21:14
bpromptjustme_: usually on a kernel update, it makes a new vmlinuz img, but it keeps the old ones, so from the Grub menu, you'd have a choice to boot to either kernel, new or old one21:16
justme_the old one is also around checked with dpkg. But sadly it's a system where I don't have keyboard and screen access ( and no kvm yet ) so have to get it done from within ubuntu21:18
justme_btw its a 22.04 server install21:19
de-factothanks21:21
oerheksTons of guides out there, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1308901/setting-older-kernel-version-as-default21:22
oerheksbut you better find out why your "VMs"  do not run21:24
bpromptjustme_: one way I can think of offhand, is simply editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg which is where the Grub menus is at, it uses a default  entry, simply change the defaulted entry from the menus there, so it defaults to the Old kernel21:24
justme_oerheks thank you very much for that link gonna look at it. Unfortunately it's not the first time a kernel update from has broken my virtual box vm's and got them to instant report stuck and pegged at 99% cpu21:27
oerheks"sudo modprobe vboxdrv, you get modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'vboxdrv': Required key not available"21:33
oerheksThe solution is to manually sign the key EVERY time this happens, because the signing is KERNEL-DEPENDENT. It is related to Secure Boot.21:33
justme_oerheks there is no secure boot, but is right now going over my log and looks like after ether the ubuntu update ( their system package ) or the kernel then it doesnt like the cpu anymore21:37
justme_so looks like posible removed from the kernel21:37
oerheksso,, what happens when you run: sudo modprobe vboxdrv21:38
oerheksthen reboot21:38
justme_it won't fix it since it is loaded ffs. The kernel literally reports the cpu wrong its a i7 and the kernel now in thhe latest reports it as i521:40
oerhekslolz21:43
oerhekshave fun booting the older kerne;21:44
oerheks-l21:44
phrack_extractorI'm trying to extract a file and can't figure out how to translate & save the file21:46
phrack_extractorIt's from phrack21:46
phrack_extractorhttp://www.phrack.org/issues/70/5.html#article21:46
phrack_extractorNear the bottom is --[ 9 - Source Code21:47
phrack_extractorbegin 644 vm_escape.tar.gz21:47
phrack_extractorI don't know how it is encoded to save it21:47
justme_oerheks just tried even that I knew it wouldnt change anything since my virtualbux webui works so it were loaded21:47
justme_and still totally same result21:47
oerheksphrack_extractor, this is not the pentest support channel21:48
phrack_extractorOk21:49
justme_oerheks but unfortunately the link you gave me won't work ether since that does also rely on having keyboard and screen access to set it at boot21:52
oerheksno, do that, editing grub, after boot and login21:56
oerheksi stop with this, wonky hardware, now you have no access, not even ssh ?21:56
gigi123421:59
justme_I have access since its the host server there also are main serverΒ  ( so are on the ssh over the management vpn network ) so I haveΒ  shell access22:03
justme_ItsΒ  just I have no hw access22:03
justme_since it's vm's on that server there is keep getting stuck at starting and I saw the logs from22:04
justme_but thwe guide you sent says directly "These settings will ensure that your system boots with the last kernel you chose during boot." and that I won't be able to do since again no hw/kvm access22:06
justme_oerheks so sorry to ask how would I then set the kernel in the grubfile to the other kernel now the guied sayd set to saved and chose at next boot22:14
Tingojustme_: did you $ sudo update and $ sudo upgrade Β ? now during upgrade it also has been your kernel ? can you show me Pastebin of it ?22:30
TingoNormally, it will auto configured your New Kernel in Grub.. and on Reboot it will auto pick new kernel..22:31
justme_Yes it were a normal apt update and apt upgrade, and it upgraded the kernel to 5.15.0-116-generic where I were on 5.15.0-113-generic I believe22:34
justme_yes it did also that and that was messed it all up sunce the virtualbox vm's now won't start on the new kernel and it shows in log as it tries to report my I7 cpu as a I5 to virtualbox but the vbox driver works fine since my virtualbox webui works totally fine22:36
justme_it's just the vm's gets stuck right away so that is why I try to get back on the prior kernel and sadly does not have HW access so have to do it from ssh22:38
justme_Tingo what would you like to have the pastebin of?22:39
bparkerwhere can I find a list of supported USB wifi adapters that work out of the box on a stock 22.04 install?22:44
bparkerespecially stable ones perferably... I have tried 3 different ones already and they either fail to connect or the firmware crashes within a few hours22:45
bparkerpreferably*22:45
Tingojustme_: you can reboot your VM whenever it startup then press ESC key continuesly .. it will show Grub Menu .. you will see Ubuntu option click on it and then choose OLD kernel from List..22:54
justme_But that wont work omg omg It's on the actual HW server I need to roll back since no vm's can start and get stuck at 99% cpu from start after the update. And I have NO HW ACCESS so I can't choseΒ  at boot I have to do it from within ubuntu before rebooting22:56
xanguabparker: I'd get a wifi card better, Intel ax210 is what I got22:57
Guest7191hi everyone22:58
justme_but it's after this were upgraded that all the issues started with apt upgrade ( just found the log ) https://pastebin.com/dzZCk1i122:58
oerheksbparker, maybe the 54mbit ones22:59
oerheksmany advanced wifi adapters need firmware, that is undoable on a live iso22:59
oerheksgood start https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/23:00
Tingojustme_ pastebin the result of this command $ dmesg23:02
justme_No I'm not posting full dmesg specially a place there is public archived for all time since that is full of personal hostnames, ips etc and miles long and general personal identifiable information. also virtualbox does log to its own files so that does not help23:08
justme_and specially since its so long a log that it's imposible to censor all23:09
Tingook..have to check where it is getting stuck..23:09
Tingowhen did you $ sudo apt upgrade.. it had sucessfully installed all packages ?23:09
oerhekstime to get hw access .. bring monitor and mouse πŸ€ͺ23:10
Tingoso you meant to say that your all Virtualbox VMs are not Booting normal.. only this Ubuntu left which didnt reboot yet?23:11
oerheksyou won' t provide logs, on wonky hardware, so how could we be of help?23:11
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justme_I did the upgrade maybe 7 hours ago and everything works excepts ity broke virtualbox after the kernel update23:13
bparkerxangua: I can only use USB, sorry23:14
justme_and it were after the reboot it were aperant that the kernel broke virtualbox ( upgraded 2024-07-22  18:59:20 UTC as seen in the link I posted from what it upgraded )23:16
Tingowhich OS and Virtualbox version is running on Host server ?23:16
Tingojustme_: Β pastebin this $ cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg23:16
justme_this is the host we are talking about that the link also is from ( the apt upgrade log ) it's ubuntu 22.04 LTS and I believe virtualbox 6.1.50 headless23:18
justme_Tingo this is the grubfile from the host server https://pastebin.com/Ch6Lt9UE23:21
Tingooh, so we are dealing HOST OS which is running Virtualbox, i thought we are talking about Virtual Machine on virtualbox....23:21
Tingothis command vboxmanage --version will show your Version..23:22
justme_the vm's it self are getting stuck right away when started as a result of the kernel upgrade23:22
justme_and yes its the host machine we are dealing with since it's affecting both windows and linux vm's since its vbox it self there report stuck on the vm's and 99% cpu on them as soon power on is hit on them as in instant. So it is the host there needs to get the kernel rolled back from the upgrade today23:24
Tingowhich kernel is it currently showing on this command ? uname -r23:24
justme_its virtualbox 6.1.50r161033 btw23:25
justme_its the newest5.15.0-116-generic since the server got rebooted since the kernel update23:25
justme_and yeah if I only had hardware access I would then just have changed at boot and then uninstalled it23:27
Tingols -l /boot23:31
Tingohave to check that all old kernel files...23:31
justme_https://pastebin.com/FfBKYVuV23:34
Tingoafter $ sudo apt upgrade command.. did you also gave command $ sudo apt autoremove ?23:35
justme_no I never do the autoremove or purge before some days after just in case there is a issue and the version is removed from apt23:36
justme_so there were only run apt update and apt upgrade and then rebooted since there were kernel update23:37
justme_and specially since there were kernel update23:39
justme_Tingo not sure if you lost my answer since saw your client disconnected, but no I did not autoremove or purge since specially when there were kernels then I always wait a few days for that just in caseΒ  of issues23:48
Tingoback.. Sorry, was away..23:52
Tingo2 min23:53
justme_no worries at all23:54

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