| justme_ | sorry it disconnected me for some reason | 00:10 |
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| bparker | unforgivable | 00:10 |
| justme_ | well then sorry I'm here and sorry I asked earlier | 00:11 |
| pragmaticenigma | bparker: humor, if that's what you were trying to do, doesn't really translate to a chat. rather unkind of you to say that at all | 00:14 |
| bparker | sorry I dropped my /s | 00:15 |
| Tingo | back.. | 00:25 |
| pragmaticenigma | front? | 00:26 |
| Tingo | justme_: its a time to do operation.. | 00:26 |
| pragmaticenigma | Tingo: unfortunately, they /part the channel due to misunderstanding | 00:27 |
| Tingo | what ? | 00:27 |
| Tingo | he left :).. | 00:29 |
| pragmaticenigma | yes | 00:31 |
| pragmaticenigma | you appear, happy for that... i must've missed soething | 00:31 |
| Tingo | justme_ want to go back to old kernel.. | 00:32 |
| Tingo | had to configure its Grub configuration.. | 00:32 |
| pragmaticenigma | thats what i thought | 00:32 |
| pragmaticenigma | seems a lot of kernel reversion questions coming in lately | 00:32 |
| Tingo | https://bpa.st/MNBA | 00:34 |
| Tingo | it was his solution... | 00:34 |
| Juest | um, how are deferrals configured for packages? | 01:00 |
| Juest | is there a equivalent of windows group policy? | 01:00 |
| Tingo | juest: what you want to do ? | 01:01 |
| Juest | Tingo: configure the system to not prompt for updates and manage updates and deferrals on its own | 01:02 |
| Juest | also i seem to get no feedback when running unattended-update or unattended-updates | 01:03 |
| sarnold | unattended-upgrades's default configuration is to install security updates automatically | 01:04 |
| Juest | i see, just that? is it possible to configure it so it pushes security updates and defers feature updates to a fixed period while also knowing when the system is idle? | 01:06 |
| Juest | and check for updates and determine whatever to defer or apply them | 01:06 |
| Tingo | systemctl status unattended-upgrades | 01:06 |
| Juest | and if a critical cve is applied, reboot | 01:07 |
| Juest | Tingo: that's enabled by default, right? | 01:07 |
| Juest | im trying to customize or rather remove the updates ux from the desktop | 01:07 |
| Tingo | Juest: yes, its enabled by default.. | 01:08 |
| sarnold | Juest: you can configure it through apt configuration settings, the default file might be /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades (though I have a vague memory of it perhaps changing name in newer releases?) | 01:10 |
| Juest | sarnold: that's still the correct path for that | 01:11 |
| Juest | should i copy it or something similar? | 01:11 |
| sarnold | yay | 01:11 |
| sarnold | Juest: nah, just edit this file, I think copying it around would just be confusing | 01:11 |
| Juest | and when unattended-upgrade updates the file it wont get updated | 01:12 |
| sarnold | I'm not sure if you'll be stuck with the "a configuration file has changed!" process or not. I bet you'll be prompted to deal with the changes by hand on an upgrade | 01:14 |
| Tingo | Three files are related to Auto-update... | 01:15 |
| Tingo | 1. /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/20auto-upgrades | 01:16 |
| Tingo | 2. /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades | 01:16 |
| Tingo | 3. /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/10periodic | 01:17 |
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| spot2 | hello why are you afk | 01:25 |
| Juest | thanks Tingo | 01:26 |
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| bparker | 00:14 < pragmaticenigma> bparker: humor, if that's what you were trying to do, doesn't really translate to a chat. rather unkind of you to say that at all | 01:44 |
| bparker | did anyone else think this? | 01:45 |
| bparker | not sure why they thought it was unkind to make an innocent joke | 01:45 |
| bparker | you see the exact same thing said all over the internet and nobody else seems to care | 01:45 |
| junyx | bparker nah they were being overly sensitive | 02:19 |
| bparker | junyx: thanks | 02:21 |
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| sarnold | bparker: yes, I thought that, and I was glad to see pragmaticenigma ask you to be kinder | 02:27 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | on jammy, what's the lightest way to start an x application (e.g. `firefox -new-tab "https://www.example.com"`) on boot? trying to avoid installing a whole desktop environment, etc | 02:29 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | (currently this is a headless box, but i have a spare monitor and was hoping to use it to display some web app dashboards or something) | 02:30 |
| enigma9o7 | You could just install xorg and set up a session that just loads firefox. | 02:30 |
| enigma9o7 | no desktop or window manager needed | 02:30 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | that sounds about right. let me see if i can figure that out. thanks. | 02:31 |
| enigma9o7 | If you wanna take advantage of wayland instead of xorg, you could use "cage". | 02:32 |
| enigma9o7 | but the experience probably wouldn't end up much different | 02:32 |
| enigma9o7 | but might be less stuff to install | 02:33 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | wayland sounds interesting but i have enough of a hard time understanding how x works | 02:33 |
| enigma9o7 | If you want to test it without setting up a session or anything, just "sudo apt install cage" then install firefox then "cage firefox" from tty, it'll come right up. | 02:34 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | what if i'm SSHd in and i want to start x on tty1... | 02:37 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | (no physical keyboard) | 02:37 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | the man page for cage is... | 02:39 |
| * NoImNotNineVolt googles | 02:39 | |
| bparker | sarnold: well, since you have seen now that not everyone agrees... do you think it is reasonable that you consider what I said objectively unkind? | 02:40 |
| bparker | oh well, doesn't matter I guess. everyone is entitled to their opinion. | 02:45 |
| Juest | NoImNotNineVolt: should work if the display is active? | 02:46 |
| Juest | erm, NoImNotNineVolt, you could use xinit or startx for that, and disable X forwarding if its enabled? | 02:48 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | Juest: parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (Permission denied) | 02:51 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | i wouldn't expect startx over ssh / in a vt to work.. | 02:55 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | okay, progress. i have it trying to startx on tty1 on boot. it just doesn't succeed. | 03:08 |
| rbox | i've used nodm in the past | 03:09 |
| rbox | pretty sweet | 03:09 |
| ducasse | hey, is there any way to get gtk-sharp2 on noble? does anyone know a ppa or anything? | 03:12 |
| rbox | if there is somethign yo uwant in a package that doesnt exist, you can compiel it | 03:12 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | i guess i can check out nodm if i can't get it to work myself. | 03:12 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | i haven't had to configure x manually since like the 90s. | 03:13 |
| ducasse | rbox: yeah, i guess i could try building the source from 22.04 | 03:13 |
| ducasse | NoImNotNineVolt: you only want one app open? | 03:17 |
| ducasse | NoImNotNineVolt: also, wayland is probably easier to get to grips with, since your only access to the innards is through the compositor | 03:20 |
| realivanjx | TIL that APT::Periodic:: are the intervals between runs expressed in days and not a true/false | 03:24 |
| Juest | NoImNotNineVolt: nodm will provide better luck but that program seems unmaintained afaik | 03:52 |
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| fuckstain | Ubuntu is not doing | 05:28 |
| bparker | the needful | 05:31 |
| rkta | Are there any other files containing secrets in /etc besides /etc/shadow? I'm setting up etckeeper and don't want any secrets in the git repo. | 05:51 |
| CosmicDJ | rkta: sure there could be others, most services you can log in to keep a password db (unless you use system/ldap or ad) | 05:58 |
| rkta | CosmicDJ: which ones would that be for a default install? | 06:00 |
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| CosmicDJ | rkta: server or desktop (which DE)? minimal or full? you see that question is hard to answer, also it's your system, you should know where you have passwords set | 06:40 |
| rkta | CosmicDJ: Desktop, pre-installed by Dell. I was just looking for the most common things to look out for. | 06:46 |
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| kozi | Hello everyone, I wonder if anybody could assist with a strange ubuntu GRUB issue I'm having? If booting from scratch, all works well. The moment I do a reset (either through console or through ctrl+alt+del), my bios gets stuck on the [Press <DEL> to enter Setup, <F7> to Boot Menu] screen. Not clear why! | 08:45 |
| ravage | Try a BIOS update | 08:47 |
| kozi | Fair enough. Any idea where I start lookung | 08:51 |
| ravage | The website of your motherboard manufacturer | 08:53 |
| kozi | Hmm, I've been through there and haven't found anything useful. Thank you anyway. | 08:57 |
| EriC^ | how's grub booting in the first place kozi? | 09:00 |
| EriC^ | nevermind, just saw the from scratch | 09:00 |
| tuxinator | Hi all | 09:51 |
| j0rm0mm4 | high | 09:54 |
| tuxinator | we are trying to use adsys network share mounting and the policy framework works for example for sudo but we can't mount anything by the GPO, we always get smb://server1.testdomain.local/testubnt/\": Location is not mountable" somebody using adsys? | 09:57 |
| tuxinator | on the other site //server1.testdomain.local/testubnt /cifsmounttest cifs _netdev,sec=krb5,noserverino,user,rw 0 0 in fstab works | 10:21 |
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| patrick__ | hello | 10:37 |
| patrick__ | who is the creator of this server!!! | 10:37 |
| patrick__ | exit | 10:38 |
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| danielDanMan | Hi | 11:10 |
| danielDanMan | Can I use 7his cha7 7o have suppor7? | 11:11 |
| rembi | y | 11:13 |
| fweht | i use xubuntu, installed firefox via snap but somehow it cant make itself the default browser? | 11:27 |
| nteodosio | fweht, at least in Gnome that relies on a portal. KDE has one too but maybe XFCE doesn't run any? What is 'dpkg -l|grep portal'. | 11:31 |
| nteodosio | fweht, I find in Apt's database: xdg-desktop-portal-xapp - Xapp's Cinnamon, MATE and Xfce backends for xdg-desktop-portal | 11:32 |
| fweht | so i need to install those? | 11:32 |
| rizzler | sup | 11:33 |
| rizzler | wow im in linux im hacking ayyy | 11:34 |
| nteodosio | I only listed one package there. Running 'dpkg -l|grep portal' in a terminal should indicate whether one is already installed, which is the first step I suggest. | 11:34 |
| nteodosio | ^fweht | 11:34 |
| rizzler | what is the topic rn? | 11:34 |
| rizzler | wait a macbook can run linux???? | 11:35 |
| fweht | nteodosio this is the output https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/Zn0jvWs1/ | 11:37 |
| nteodosio | Hum so you have the -gtk one... | 11:38 |
| fweht | so i should install xapp? | 11:39 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:40 |
| fweht | aah but i just noticed a much more severe problem, after closing my laptop lid, it doesnt go to sleep, and when i open again, i can move my mouse but i cant click anything or use my keyboard so i have to force reboot | 11:40 |
| nteodosio | You could try, I don't think it would help. This should be working out of the box and so is a bug, I suggest opening a bug report describing your system, this result and how exactly you ascertained the problem. | 11:40 |
| nteodosio | Ah well that must be another and indeed nastier one. | 11:41 |
| cabangon_ | hi | 11:42 |
| cabangon_ | any one awake? | 11:42 |
| Teridon | I don't know why this these bother me but.. please check my cron "math" here. zfsutlis-linux defines a cron job that is supposed to run on the second sunday of every month. But for some reason it doesn't specify the day-of-the-week in the cron section -- it adds an extra "date +%w -eq 0" conditional. https://bpa.st/YA6A | 11:43 |
| cabangon_ | what is that? | 11:44 |
| cabangon_ | why is everyone leavng? | 11:45 |
| cabangon_ | bro Teridon what did you do? XD | 11:46 |
| fweht | nteodosio: oh man, i really like xubuntu, but even when running from the live usb closing the lid doesnt put the laptop to sleep :( | 11:48 |
| cabangon_ | my laptop can only handle ubuntu RIP | 11:48 |
| fweht | same with my 2014 imac | 11:49 |
| nteodosio | fweht, I assume you have already investigated whether that option is enabled in the power settings. | 11:49 |
| fweht | bios settings or ubuntu settings? | 11:49 |
| cabangon_ | macs can run linux? | 11:49 |
| fweht | cabangon_: the older ones with intel chips | 11:49 |
| cabangon_ | ohh | 11:50 |
| fweht | apple silicon support is very experimental | 11:50 |
| nteodosio | fweht, Ubuntu settings. You could also just try /etc/systemd/logind.conf as a last resort. | 11:50 |
| ghodawalaaman | TIL https://chatgpt.com/share/5167f948-730a-4957-b675-f1f39eaaf748 | 11:56 |
| ghodawalaaman | I didn't knew about apt-cache | 11:56 |
| ghodawalaaman | :) | 11:57 |
| ghodawalaaman | s/knew/know | 11:57 |
| cabangon_ | what happened? | 11:57 |
| fweht | ill try xubuntu 24.10 maybe they fixed it | 11:58 |
| cabangon_ | xubuntu 24 did not work for me | 11:58 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !discuss | 11:58 |
| ubottu | Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! | 11:58 |
| lotuspsychj3 | please seperate discussions with ubuntu support | 11:58 |
| cabangon_ | ohh ok so thats why | 12:00 |
| cabangon_ | how do i directly message? | 12:01 |
| lotuspsychj3 | cabangon_: /query nickname | 12:01 |
| lotuspsychj3 | !tab | cabangon_ | 12:04 |
| ubottu | cabangon_: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. | 12:04 |
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| |N3on21| | @lotuspsychj3, sorry did not see your msg yesterday. Yes I did change it to Private.... | 12:33 |
| lotuspsychj3 | |N3on21|: did the devs change it, or did you yourself? | 12:34 |
| |N3on21| | I did it my self... There was alot of information about me and my system. | 12:36 |
| lotuspsychj3 | |N3on21|: thats not really the purpose of making a bug private, unless its about a crash bug it can contain sensitive info | 12:37 |
| |N3on21| | @lotuspsychj3, i know - but the log files that were uploadet was having information on everything. I have no problem sharing this with devs / support team. But to share with *.* is making me alitle paranoid | 12:40 |
| lotuspsychj3 | |N3on21|: you might delay your bugs solving like that, if no other users could confirm/affect/reproduce it | 12:41 |
| |N3on21| | @lotuspsychj3, I know and i would like to open it more up. But I also want my bug repport to be more anonymous | 12:44 |
| lotuspsychj3 | |N3on21|: your system, your choice im just letting you know the impact of it | 12:45 |
| |N3on21| | @lotuspsychj3, i appreciate it very much ! | 12:46 |
| cabangon_ | bug reports are already anonymous, right? | 12:46 |
| lotuspsychj3 | cabangon_: not by default, they come on launchpad public | 12:47 |
| |N3on21| | the one I made contained a lot of information about me and my system | 12:48 |
| |N3on21| | not saying that you should not make bug repports... I think it is fantastic that this is an option... | 12:49 |
| |N3on21| | but when I saw my pc S/N in one of the log files i got a little scared | 12:50 |
| lotuspsychj3 | |N3on21|: a bios version in dmesg wont be any security risk public | 12:51 |
| younder | Your log files are administrative privilege only. You wan't everything that can help diagnose a error. More crashes are cause by bugs not unauthorized entry after all. | 12:55 |
| younder | dmessg should only be availabe to a administrator. Is it isn't check the auth settings. | 12:58 |
| |N3on21| | @lotuspsychj3, what information type would you set on a bug repport like the one I got ? | 13:17 |
| lotuspsychj3 | |N3on21|: i would have kept it public for your case | 13:18 |
| |N3on21| | @lotuspsychj3, then im holding you accountable when shi7 hits the fan ;) and WE need to restore my pc... ;) | 13:20 |
| JanC | I don't know what bug this is, but if you used apport it does some censoring to hide some private info that isn't relevant to solve the bug | 13:20 |
| |N3on21| | ggg | 13:20 |
| lotuspsychj3 | JanC: i helped |N3on21| for an audio but on a latest 6.8 kernel version, we tested a previous one wich resolved | 13:21 |
| JanC | dependign on what applications log, it might not be able to do that for everything of course | 13:21 |
| lotuspsychj3 | *bug | 13:21 |
| lotuspsychj3 | so not a crash bug in his case | 13:21 |
| JanC | you can use apport to report non-crasher bugs | 13:22 |
| lotuspsychj3 | we already did JanC | 13:22 |
| lotuspsychj3 | but |N3on21| decided to change his bug ID from public to private | 13:22 |
| JanC | I guess they can look at the attached files then, to see if anything private is in there | 13:23 |
| |N3on21| | <- going to change my name to chicken | 13:23 |
| younder | Have you considered using cockpit https://cockpit-project.org/ | 13:24 |
| younder | To me it beats using ubscure command line tools | 13:25 |
| |N3on21| | afk for a minnut or two | 13:25 |
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| stuffandthings | why would ntfs-3g be installed by default if ubuntu has and uses ntfs3 by default? | 14:01 |
| CosmicDJ | stuffandthings: rephrase question please | 14:02 |
| CosmicDJ | stuffandthings: Ubuntu is not using NTFS, NTFS is a Windows filesystem | 14:02 |
| stuffandthings | right but the kernel comes with ntfs3 and ubuntu comes with ntfs-3g as well | 14:03 |
| ravage | What is your Ubuntu support question? | 14:03 |
| ravage | If you want to discuss a topic please use #ubuntu-discuss | 14:04 |
| stuffandthings | ok | 14:04 |
| stuffandthings | sorry for the inconvenience | 14:05 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | so i have an ubuntu box with a display but no input devices. i have getty on tty1 set to autologin a kiosk user, and kiosk's .bash_profile does startx. then firefox starts from kiosk's .xsession. | 14:24 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | unfortunately firefox can't be started fullscreen from the command line, so i'm trying to use `xdotool` to send an f11 keystroke, but it's not working. if i had a keyboard and mouse i could troubleshoot by running xdotool from a terminal, but since my only access is via ssh, xdotool can't find a display etc | 14:26 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | any advice? | 14:26 |
| hermano | Added following line in through visudo: %gitlab-runner ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/docker-compose | 14:26 |
| hermano | Looking to secure that gitlab-runner can execute "sudo docker-compose" command without request of password. | 14:27 |
| hermano | But when I try, I still have to enter sudo pwd. | 14:27 |
| ogra_ | NoImNotNineVolt, does it have to be firefox ? https://mir-server.io/docs/make-a-secure-ubuntu-web-kiosk | 14:30 |
| hermano | Looks like it works, if i remove the sudo in the command. | 14:30 |
| arichard123 | I had some issues with xdotool on wayland. | 14:33 |
| arichard123 | Fine with xorg. Something about a different design philosphy | 14:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | NoImNotNineVolt: wmctrl ? | 14:33 |
| arichard123 | wmctrl is definately xorg only | 14:34 |
| sixwheeledbeast | where is wayland mentioned. I see .xsession and startx | 14:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | i believe there is wlctrl for wayland but I still use X | 14:40 |
| ioria | NoImNotNineVolt, i don't know if it's what you're looking for, but this works : firefox --kiosk https://ostechnix.com; sleep 3; xdotool key F11 | 14:44 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | ioria: yea it's xdotool that's not working. | 14:48 |
| ioria | NoImNotNineVolt, maybe it's not finding the target (the window, i mean) | 14:51 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | ioria: it's working! | 14:54 |
| ioria | ok | 14:54 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | i needed to explicitly added DISPLAY=:0 | 14:54 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | also it looks like x dies when .xsession finishes... | 14:55 |
| ioria | i see | 14:55 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | adding `sleep infinity` at the end seems a bit hackish, but... | 14:56 |
| retrev | having boot issues with an encrypted vg on nvme. Everything was working then I powered on my laptop and it won't boot. It's an air gapped machine so I know there were no system updates. when I boot I'm not prompted for my password, I just drop to (initramfs). There's no /dev/nvme* which is likely what's causing the issue. "grep nvme /proc/modules" | 15:10 |
| retrev | shows "nvme" and "nvme_core". If I boot a sysrescue usb I'm able to cryptsetup luksOpen the vg, mount it, etc. | 15:10 |
| retrev | did a chroot and rebuilt the initramfs but still no joy. | 15:10 |
| lotuspsychj3 | retrev: can you still enter grub recoverymode? | 15:12 |
| oerheks | :-) | 15:17 |
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| otamrani | fd | 15:26 |
| otamrani | fdsa | 15:26 |
| otamrani | fd | 15:26 |
| oerheks | ? | 15:27 |
| otamrani | fdf | 15:27 |
| oerheks | do you have an Ubuntu support question, otamrani ? | 15:28 |
| otamrani | adont know how this hexachat work | 15:29 |
| otamrani | know im inside channel or what? | 15:29 |
| lotuspsychj3 | otamrani: you joined the Ubuntu support channel here | 15:30 |
| kk1234 | otamrani we can see you | 15:30 |
| kk1234 | otamrani you're doing fine so far | 15:30 |
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| retrev | lotuspsychj3 I might have been disconnected before responding....recoverymode has the same problem...drops to initramfs | 15:40 |
| lotuspsychj3 | retrev: that doesnt sound too good indeed | 15:41 |
| oerheks | if that /dev/nvme* keeps disappearing, reseat the drive ? | 15:42 |
| oerheks | check for a bios update | 15:42 |
| lotuspsychj3 | retrev: maybe an install 'next' your current ecisting install keeping your /home might be an idea to rescue? | 15:42 |
| retrev | it never appears in my boot but if I boot from a usb live distro it works fine | 15:42 |
| lotuspsychj3 | wich release are we talking about retrev | 15:43 |
| retrev | 2004lts I believe | 15:43 |
| oerheks | oh, please do not repost in #linux, so sad to make volunteers wait and guess | 15:43 |
| oerheks | :-( | 15:43 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | okay, so, i use xrandr in my xsession to set a 4k resolution, and that appears to work, but when i run firefox and hit f11, it only occupies the upper-left portion of the screen. | 15:45 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | xrandr says Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3840 x 2160, maximum 16384 x 16384 | 15:47 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | so weird. tried with chromium and now it's drawing on more of the screen, but still only the left half. at least fullscreen centers the application window [and just doesn't draw the right half]... | 15:58 |
| oerheks | NoImNotNineVolt, what are the specs of the monitor? | 16:30 |
| oerheks | there is 4k 3840 x 2160 and true 4k 4096 x 2160 | 16:30 |
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| tacomaster | I just wanted to make sure I am not about to do something stupid. In my Ubuntu 24.04 logs I am seeing drm:nv_drm_master_set nvidia_drm error failed to grab modeset ownership. I found https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/706349 which recommends me to do "echo "blacklist i2c_nvidia_gpu" > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist_i2c-nvidia-gpu.conf && sudo update-initramfs -u". For a desktop version of ubuntu and mostly play games in wi | 17:02 |
| tacomaster | browse the web, should this cause an issue? I am not 100% sure how the nvidia driver and i2c_nvidia_gpu differ. | 17:02 |
| tacomaster | I also found this https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/i2c/busses/i2c-nvidia-gpu.html which I believe is telling me that it is related to usb type -c but it does not directly say that. It just says type-c controller on gpus. | 17:10 |
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| JanC | tacomaster: I assume it's for USB-C connected displays indeed, as it says "Turing and later GPU" and Turing was the first generation Nvidia GPUs with support for that | 17:43 |
| sarnold | bparker: yeah; in the right context what you said is a fine joke. but in a huge group with a wide variety of irc familiarity levels, it's not constructive. | 17:50 |
| energizer | can ubuntu users tell me if your default fonts can render this character "⨟" | 17:54 |
| oerheks | standard english, no | 17:54 |
| energizer | ok | 17:55 |
| bparker | energizer: what does 'default fonts' mean? every app can use any font they like | 17:55 |
| bparker | assuming we are even talking about GUI | 17:56 |
| JanC | "default fonts" depends on what language(s) you installed | 17:56 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | oerheks: 3840 x 2160 indeed but i don't think that's what the problem is | 18:37 |
| NoImNotNineVolt | i'm really starting to question whether this is worth the hassle or if i should just install gnome | 18:41 |
| sprokkel | Hey, Question : is there an easy way to disable traffic to and from connectivity-check.ubuntu.com? | 18:44 |
| ravage | Why don't you just disable the check? | 18:45 |
| sprokkel | where do I do that? | 18:45 |
| zphinx | sprokkel: sudo touch /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/20-connectivity-ubuntu.conf | 18:47 |
| ravage | sudo touch /etc/NetworkManager/conf.d/20-connectivity-ubuntu.conf | 18:47 |
| ravage | Try that | 18:47 |
| ravage | May require a reboot | 18:48 |
| puff | Good afternoon, I'm on Ubuntu 22.04 LTS, recently upgraded from 20.04 LTS, and when I try to login at the GUI login screen, I get "Failed to start session". | 18:48 |
| ravage | https://ubuntu.com/core/docs/networkmanager/snap-configuration/connectivity-check | 18:48 |
| zphinx | puff: what login manager? | 18:49 |
| puff | zphinx: Should be the default, how would I check? | 18:49 |
| ravage | That is for core but the link to the network manager docs should be valid | 18:49 |
| puff | I'm ssh'd into the machine, btw, from the Mac Mini I'm using to type this. | 18:49 |
| puff | Albeit I'm not super familiar with the Mac UI and a lot of my control key reflexes are tripping up :-(. | 18:50 |
| zphinx | puff: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop | 18:50 |
| zphinx | your session manager probably didnt translate over properly | 18:50 |
| oerheks | ssh did not survive uprade .. | 18:51 |
| puff | Aha. | 18:51 |
| puff | Yeah, come to think of it I had some SSL problems with python pip. | 18:51 |
| zphinx | pip problems would be completelt unrelated | 18:52 |
| puff | zphinx: Only related in that the bindings between python and openssl were borked, sounds like something simlar at work here. | 18:53 |
| sprokkel | snap set network-manager connectivity.interval=0, disables the connectivity check , thanks! | 18:53 |
| ravage | Unless you messed up your system python setup by running pip with root | 18:53 |
| zphinx | puff: and pip should generally only be used when you're in a virtual environment, mixing python packages from "apt" and a system wide pip install is usually a bad idea | 18:54 |
| puff | It's asking me to pick a display manager, default is lightdm, which I recognize from past troubleshooting, the alternative is gdm3. Any reason to change? | 18:54 |
| puff | zphinx: Yeah, that's where I use pip. | 18:54 |
| puff | zphinx: Also, several of my existing venvs broke. | 18:55 |
| zphinx | if its a default ubuntu system, gdm would be the obvious choice. | 18:55 |
| puff | zphinx: Why would it default to lightdm then? | 18:55 |
| puff | Hm, at one point I used xubuntu, but I'm pretty sure that was on a previous install. | 18:55 |
| puff | Though I might have installed xubuntu-desktop on this one. | 18:56 |
| puff | Anyway, it's churning along... | 18:57 |
| zphinx | puff: lightdm is the default for xubuntu, that explains things | 18:57 |
| puff | To be clear, I haven't been using xubuntu desktop. | 18:57 |
| zphinx | you just said you installed xubuntu-desktop | 18:57 |
| puff | Yeah, but I've been using the regular ubuntu desktop. | 18:58 |
| zphinx | there should be a "wheel" in the lightdm login screen, with options what to pick, could you write them out here? | 18:58 |
| zphinx | xorg, wayland etc etc | 18:58 |
| puff | My old install was xubuntu, but I reinstalled from scratch after upgrading my hard drive. I installed vanilla ubuntu when I reinstalled, then installed the xubuntu-desktop package, then decided to stick with vanilla ubuntu's desktop for a while just to regain familiarity. | 18:59 |
| puff | But basically never got back to xubuntu. | 18:59 |
| zphinx | you can pick a desktop environment when you login in both gdm3 and lightdm | 19:00 |
| oerheks | are you seriously looking for a fix? ": puff> zphinx: Only related in that the bindings between python and openssl were borked, sounds like something simlar at work here." sounds time for reinstall | 19:00 |
| zphinx | it makes sense lightdm cant restore your gnome session | 19:00 |
| puff | There's no wheel on the old/existing login dialog, just a dropdown for username, an input for password, a login button, and to the left of those a silohouette of a person. | 19:01 |
| puff | oerheks: I'm not sure what your question is? | 19:01 |
| puff | oerheks: zphinx advised me to reinstall ubuntu-desktop, I did that, it's been running this whole time. | 19:02 |
| puff | I'm just trying to understand what happened and why. | 19:02 |
| zphinx | oerheks: so you are suggesting a complete system install becauxe he's mixed pip packages with apt ones? | 19:02 |
| puff | Just finished, rebooting. | 19:02 |
| puff | zphinx: I'm not aware of mixing any pip packages with apt packages. I'm not even sure how you'd do that... I guess using apt to install some python libraries systemwide? | 19:03 |
| puff | I'm using pyenv for installing python, btw. Which is probably a major factor in pip breaking when I upgraded to 22.04 LTS. | 19:04 |
| zphinx | puff: pip and apt are two diffrent package handlers, pip is what you use for python libraries, many of the same packages exist within the apt repositories. its usually a bad idea to install a package via pip systemwide | 19:04 |
| puff | Aha. | 19:05 |
| puff | Yeah, generally I use pip for installing in venvs. | 19:05 |
| puff | More for repeatable processes than for anything else. | 19:05 |
| zphinx | you could try systemctl stop lightdm && systemctl disable lightdm, which will kick you back into the cli, and then run systemctl start gdm3 && systemctl enable gdm3 | 19:06 |
| oerheks | i suspect some python2.7 stuff bugging. clean reinstall is the best option indeed | 19:06 |
| puff | Hm, looks like that fixed it, I can login via X now. | 19:07 |
| puff | Speaking of which, is it possible to get back the alt-F1 etc consoles? | 19:07 |
| zphinx | yes | 19:07 |
| zphinx | ctrl+alt+fkey | 19:08 |
| puff | Can you point me in the right direction? | 19:08 |
| puff | Hm, and F7 is still X? | 19:08 |
| puff | Weird, they weren't working for me yesterday. Maybe because of lightdm? | 19:08 |
| puff | Hm, looks like F2 is the default X session. Though F1 is another X / GUI login window. F3 is a text console, though. | 19:10 |
| puff | Related question, can I move the launcher dock from the left edge, and can I move the workspaces back to the right edge like they were under 20.04? | 19:12 |
| puff | zphinx: Thanks for the save. | 19:12 |
| zphinx | no problem | 19:12 |
| puff | Re: systemctl etc, I chose gdm3 from the ubuntu-desktop reinstall, per your advice. So it should be in gdm3 now, right? | 19:13 |
| zphinx | yeah, its gdm3 | 19:14 |
| zphinx | its the default with ubuntu-desktop and gnome in general | 19:14 |
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| bparker | I'm trying to enroll fingerprints with a u.are.u 4500 device, fprintd is running and I am able to "successfully" enroll a finger, but verifying them always fails. any ideas? OS is 22.04 | 20:01 |
| comph | so the sound broke down... | 20:31 |
| comph | weirdly pulseaudio seem to work | 20:31 |
| comph | but when i open pavucontrol it just says "establishing a connection to pulseaudio" but nothing happens | 20:32 |
| enigma9o7 | Great Scott! | 20:32 |
| enigma9o7 | zphinx: you may have to use extension to do it, but yeah for sure. | 20:33 |
| enigma9o7 | install gnome-extension-manager and see if there's settings for ubuntus dash to dock extension, if not, install the standard dash to dock or dash to panel extension,w hich do have those options zphinx | 20:34 |
| enigma9o7 | (and disable ubuntu's one of course if replacing it) | 20:35 |
| zphinx | enigma9o7: you'tr | 20:35 |
| zphinx | t | 20:35 |
| zphinx | ech enigma9o7, you're messaging the wrong person | 20:36 |
| enigma9o7 | ohhhh doh yeah that was meant for puff | 20:36 |
| enigma9o7 | Deepest apologies. I apologize for the inconvenience. | 20:37 |
| zphinx | 22.04 and onwards has dash to dock settings without the extension being installed | 20:37 |
| enigma9o7 | Please forgive me, but if you don't, I will underrstand. | 20:37 |
| bprompt | enigma9o7: sure, we'll forgive you, but you'd need to do some penance, 10 Hail Mary's and 5 pushups | 20:38 |
| comph | the sound seems utterly lost | 20:50 |
| comph | i did install some pulseaudio-equalizer... | 20:51 |
| comph | which i have removed | 20:51 |
| comph | hmmm | 20:51 |
| oxfuxxx | That's the french version: https://ibb.co/cCD1RM8 | 21:50 |
| eruditehermit | hey, I'm having no space left on device errors but df -h shows that I have quite a bit of space left. Can anyone help? I am using btrfs so there might be some magic happening behind the scenes. | 22:34 |
| enigma9o7 | i'm not sure how btrfs would play into things, but do you have /boot on a seperate partition perhaps, and that's what's full? or /home on a sseperate partition, etc.... | 22:35 |
| enigma9o7 | if its all one patition tho, i guess the quesiton is, where are these errors coming from, what are you doing that says no space left on device. | 22:36 |
| bprompt | !paste | eruditehermit | 22:36 |
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| eruditehermit | enigma9o7: I have /home on a separate partition but it's 70% and / is 85% full | 22:36 |
| eruditehermit | https://bpa.st/MFTA | 22:37 |
| eruditehermit | enigma9o7: chrome crashed, konsole prints these messages when it starts, even touch file.txt fails with these errors | 22:38 |
| eruditehermit | irc client and firefox work though | 22:39 |
| eruditehermit | as an example `touch: cannot touch 'test.txt': No space left on device` | 22:40 |
| ravage | i think btrfs has it's own df | 22:40 |
| ravage | what does that say? | 22:40 |
| tacomaster | Is there any known issues upgrading to nvidia driver 555 on ubuntu 24.04? | 22:41 |
| ravage | tacomaster: 555 is not in the repos yet | 22:42 |
| eruditehermit | ravage, https://bpa.st/OWZQ | 22:43 |
| enigma9o7 | dunnoabout 555, but i hear lots of issues with 560beta. | 22:44 |
| ravage | running the beta. so far no problems | 22:45 |
| ravage | but its not a supported version | 22:45 |
| ravage | eruditehermit: could be that all inodes are in use. usually caused by a lot of small files somewhere | 22:45 |
| eruditehermit | ravage: how do I check that? | 22:46 |
| ravage | sudo df -i | 22:46 |
| ravage | also where exactly did you do the touch command? | 22:47 |
| eruditehermit | ravage: touch was run from my home dir | 22:47 |
| eruditehermit | ravage: https://bpa.st/NZWA | 22:48 |
| ravage | that looks very strange | 22:48 |
| ravage | but maybe it cant handle btrfs | 22:48 |
| ravage | you would need to get the information with the btrfs tool | 22:49 |
| ravage | dont have a system with btrfs atm | 22:49 |
| ravage | also you would need to get the information for /home and not / if you can still touch files in /root for example | 22:50 |
| puff | enigma9o7: Did you mean gnome-shell-extensions? Apt shows no gnome-extension-manager nor gnome-extensions-manager. | 22:57 |
| puff | enigma9o7: And oddly, I installed gnome-shell-extension-manager the other day, but when I click Activities and search for "gnome" or "extension" I get nothing. | 22:58 |
| puff | enigma9o7: did sudo apt installe gnome-shell-extension-manager, nothing I canf ind about settings for Ubuntu Dock. | 23:00 |
| puff | zphinx: Thanks, found them in System Settings/Appearance. | 23:03 |
| eruditehermit | ravage: I suspect it was inodes. I deleted some git repos and things started working again. | 23:21 |
| eruditehermit | I found a blog post about inodes being weird in btrfs | 23:21 |
| eruditehermit | ravage: https://mpdesouza.com/blog/btrfs-for-mere-mortals-inode-allocation/ | 23:22 |
| eruditehermit | tldr the guy says its impossible for btrfs to know how many inodes it can hold | 23:22 |
| eruditehermit | beforehand | 23:23 |
| eruditehermit | I've never run out of inodes before | 23:24 |
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| tacomaster | Has anyone tried the nvidia open drivers for gaming? | 23:57 |
| prolapsedanus | LOL | 23:57 |
| tacomaster | I figure it is from nvidia so I was hoping they would be able to get it right. I would love to use the open driver if possible | 23:58 |
| prolapsedanus | Why? | 23:59 |
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