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ar_ | hola | 01:24 |
Guest31 | hi guys, is there anyone who guide me slightly about 1 issue or redirect me to some help channel, thanks | 01:32 |
Bashing-om | !ask | Guest31 | 01:33 |
ubottu | Guest31: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 01:33 |
Guest31 | ubottu thanks, im facing kernel-panic error unable to sync etc. literally did everything I can get to can't troubleshoot it. theres no problem to install it on VMS but on my pc I can't. Have access to GRUB, have been adding commands after "quiet splash" ; have tried so different options but still have no luck" can't boot it from live environment, | 01:36 |
Guest31 | another usb, safe graphics, I either disable all my other stuff - just to be able to boot it. But no | 01:36 |
Guest31 | my last thing is to wipe everything on my HDD and start over but im not so much down to that | 01:37 |
Bashing-om | Guest31: Lets get the small stuff out of the way --- did you verify the .ISO download and how did you copy the .ISO file ? such that we know the foundation is firm for trouble shooting. | 01:40 |
Guest31 | yes I many times, .iso from official site -> belena/rufus (different version even tried) -> bios options all set | 01:42 |
Guest31 | it boots - i can get to grub but when i start to booting after vmlinuz initrd it starts to load then kernel-panic appears | 01:43 |
MercFredis | unable to sync what? | 01:43 |
MercFredis | whats the exact wording of the error | 01:43 |
Guest31 | mmm let me chech I might have screenshot somewhere here | 01:43 |
MercFredis | this is an error thrown when you try to boot a liveCD? | 01:43 |
MercFredis | or this is your installed system | 01:44 |
Guest31 | when i boot from usb, im at my windows os atm | 01:44 |
MercFredis | as someone said, verify your .iso image, also try another USB stick/card/whatever | 01:45 |
Guest31 | MercFredis where to verify ? i'm veryfing it only in rufus. is that okay or ? | 01:47 |
MercFredis | if rufus does a md5sum check, that's fine | 01:47 |
Guest31 | have tried another usb-ports/usb-devices - same | 01:48 |
MercFredis | so you have a linux install but its not booting either"? | 01:48 |
Guest31 | no, it's my first attempt to install ubuntu on this machine | 01:48 |
MercFredis | oh | 01:48 |
Guest31 | have bootable usb only | 01:49 |
MercFredis | yeah getting the text of the error would help | 01:49 |
Bashing-om | !sha256sum | Guest31 | 01:49 |
Guest31 | i've installed in virtualbox - then uninstall it because I decided to go straight on my pc | 01:49 |
Guest31 | and that happend | 01:49 |
MercFredis | i dunno, something bad wrong if Ubuntu install media throws an error, but windows is booting so | 01:50 |
MercFredis | hard to say what's wrong | 01:50 |
MercFredis | we need error messages | 01:50 |
Guest31 | y.. it's internet option worth for booting ? | 01:50 |
Guest31 | idk what else to try | 01:50 |
MercFredis | dont know what you mean, netboot? | 01:51 |
MercFredis | nevermind that | 01:51 |
Guest31 | okay ill get back here soon im going to shoot it | 01:51 |
MercFredis | get the error on a screenshot, and transcribe it for us here | 01:51 |
MercFredis | or post to image site or something | 01:51 |
MercFredis | we need to see the error mate, "something went wrong" doesn't give us any help to help you | 01:51 |
Guest31 | okay, brb 2-3 mins going to boot it and send u photo | 01:52 |
MercFredis | alright | 01:52 |
MercFredis | well if he's used the same image to boot a VM | 01:53 |
MercFredis | i guess the image is ok | 01:53 |
MercFredis | unable to sync... sync a drive? can't find a mode for X? who knows | 01:54 |
Guest44 | back | 01:57 |
Guest44 | is there an option to attach an image or i have to send a link ? | 01:58 |
MercFredis | put it on some image sharing site | 01:58 |
MercFredis | i dunno whats in vogue these days | 01:58 |
MercFredis | imgur will work i guess | 01:58 |
Bashing-om | !paste | Guest44 | 01:59 |
ubottu | Guest44: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 01:59 |
MercFredis | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand BEGIN | 02:01 |
Guest44 | ubottu my region is not available to register to imgur... just great | 02:08 |
Guest44 | tried with twitter/facebook/google/yandex... damn | 02:08 |
MercFredis | do you need to register to imgur to upload? | 02:08 |
MercFredis | just upload without account | 02:08 |
MercFredis | that used to work | 02:08 |
Guest44 | https://imgur.com/a/h3CUGrx | 02:09 |
Guest44 | can you see it | 02:09 |
MercFredis | yes | 02:09 |
Guest44 | (whew) thanks | 02:10 |
MercFredis | how much RAM does your system have? | 02:10 |
Guest44 | 12 | 02:11 |
MercFredis | acpi | 02:11 |
MercFredis | hmm | 02:11 |
Guest44 | got 4 GB AMD Radeon | 02:11 |
Guest44 | should be no problem to run ubuntu i guess | 02:11 |
MercFredis | its difficult to know exactly what's going on, but acpi means um | 02:11 |
Guest44 | yea | 02:11 |
Guest44 | have ssd also | 02:12 |
MercFredis | https://askubuntu.com/questions/1196498/dual-booting-ubuntu-kernel-panic-not-syncing-attempted-to-kill-init-exitcod | 02:12 |
MercFredis | The relevant error message from your log is the one with RIP: acpi_ex_system_memory_space_handler. This type of kernel panic is most often the result of the BIOS being outdated. In many cases, there will be an update for your BIOS, but whether there is one, and how to apply it, depends entirely on your hardware. | 02:12 |
MercFredis | the linux kernel is having trouble with your system's BIOS, see if there's an update for it | 02:13 |
MercFredis | you need to read more, google for "acpi_ex_system_memory_space_handler ubuntu" and you'll see what im seeing | 02:13 |
Guest44 | can i run that by command prompt ? | 02:13 |
MercFredis | there are many posts | 02:13 |
MercFredis | you arent the only one to see this | 02:14 |
Guest44 | i see | 02:14 |
MercFredis | run what by command prompt? update your bios in Windows | 02:14 |
enigma9o7 | If you "apci=off" does it boot normal? | 02:14 |
MercFredis | yeah that's a thought but | 02:14 |
Guest44 | nope it still gets this message | 02:14 |
Guest44 | i have added it after quiet splash | 02:14 |
MercFredis | on the same line, right | 02:15 |
Guest44 | literally u might be laughting but i had never upradint bios - never needed to | 02:15 |
Guest44 | yes on the linux line | 02:15 |
Guest44 | at the end | 02:15 |
MercFredis | ok | 02:15 |
enigma9o7 | noapic nomodeset | 02:16 |
Guest44 | so go on my motherboard official website and search for it ? | 02:16 |
Guest44 | nomodeset also | 02:16 |
MercFredis | acpi=strict is another thing to try | 02:17 |
MercFredis | im thinking if you can find an update for your bios, best case scenario | 02:17 |
MercFredis | yes check motherboard manufacturer for updates | 02:17 |
MercFredis | or computer vendor | 02:17 |
Guest44 | i have to update it on windows OS right ? if im using windows right now | 02:19 |
enigma9o7 | follow the mfg instructions. sometimes you do it from bios. | 02:20 |
MercFredis | updating your bios might be as easy as a windows program, some old bioses wanted you to set up a DOS bios update disk | 02:20 |
MercFredis | it just depends on how old your hardware and manufacturer | 02:20 |
MercFredis | as enigma9o7 said, instructions should come with the bios update | 02:20 |
Guest44 | sadly it have official bios drivers to win 8 , i am running win 10 right now | 02:22 |
Guest44 | it's an old z400 x3550 workstation - but it's upgraded with some hardware | 02:22 |
MercFredis | should still work | 02:22 |
MercFredis | give it a try | 02:22 |
enigma9o7 | should be fine | 02:22 |
Guest44 | ill try, thanks :) | 02:22 |
MercFredis | oh wow, Xeon? | 02:24 |
MercFredis | have fun | 02:24 |
Guest44 | xeon yuea | 02:26 |
Guest44 | wish I hadn't fun like that :D | 02:27 |
Guest44 | 2 weeks man basically tearing me apart for this | 02:27 |
MercFredis | no experience there, but should work | 02:27 |
Guest44 | found only 1 bios utility | 02:27 |
Guest44 | do i neeed firmware or osmething additional to it ? | 02:27 |
MercFredis | if it doesnt come with a bios image to be flashed, yes? | 02:28 |
MercFredis | utility may come with it, otherwise, yeah you need bios image file | 02:28 |
Guest44 | the file is 2.5MB and it's installing like an application | 02:29 |
Guest44 | ... | 02:29 |
MercFredis | yes it's a flasher | 02:29 |
MercFredis | is this an IBM box? | 02:29 |
Guest44 | BCU | 02:29 |
Guest44 | it was said or something | 02:30 |
MercFredis | i dont know what that is | 02:30 |
Guest44 | so go for restart and thats it ? | 02:30 |
MercFredis | proably not | 02:31 |
MercFredis | run the app it installed | 02:31 |
MercFredis | this is getting into basic computer operation | 02:31 |
MercFredis | what is the manufacturter of the computer | 02:33 |
MercFredis | s/ter/er | 02:33 |
MercFredis | er no thats not right | 02:33 |
Guest44 | hp intel xeon z400 w3550 | 02:34 |
MercFredis | yeah i asked if it was an IBM box, you said "BCU" | 02:34 |
MercFredis | so HP yeah i see that system | 02:35 |
MercFredis | hang on | 02:35 |
Guest44 | i know IBM only as international bussines machines ;dd | 02:35 |
Guest44 | what stands for haha | 02:35 |
Guest44 | alright | 02:35 |
enigma9o7 | they're the company that started to count the census resulsts | 02:35 |
MercFredis | im here | 02:36 |
MercFredis | https://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/hp-z400-workstation/3718668 | 02:36 |
MercFredis | HP Z400 Linux Workstation System BIOS | 02:36 |
MercFredis | 3.61 Rev.A | 02:36 |
MercFredis | 1.8 MB | 02:36 |
MercFredis | Mar 6, 2018 | 02:36 |
Guest44 | ive downloaded and installed it for windows | 02:37 |
Guest44 | now for linux right ? | 02:37 |
Guest44 | thanks | 02:37 |
* MercFredis shakes fist at bot | 02:38 | |
Guest44 | its *tgz file | 02:38 |
Guest44 | this time | 02:38 |
MercFredis | Guest44: well the only BIOS update file i see is one for linux | 02:38 |
MercFredis | yeah, that wont help you in windows | 02:39 |
MercFredis | although | 02:39 |
enigma9o7 | sweet | 02:39 |
MercFredis | did you say you found a Windows BIOS install utility? | 02:39 |
MercFredis | maybe if you can use 7zip in windows or something, to open that tgz file | 02:39 |
MercFredis | find the bios image file | 02:39 |
MercFredis | and hand that to whatever windows thing you previously installedf | 02:39 |
MercFredis | it might just work | 02:40 |
MercFredis | that's what i would do | 02:40 |
MercFredis | if indeed what you found was a BIOS utility for windows for that machine | 02:40 |
MercFredis | which i dont even see in this software list | 02:40 |
Guest44 | at windows 8 - it was bios utility or something | 02:41 |
Guest44 | same page | 02:41 |
MercFredis | oh i see hang on | 02:41 |
MercFredis | I see... bios configuration utility. that may include a BIOS flasher, but you need a BIOS file. what's weird is, under the Windows, it only lists some firmwares for blu-ray burner and RAID controller | 02:43 |
Guest44 | ive opened it by winzip then flashy-to-flash and | 02:43 |
MercFredis | i dont see any actual BIOS firmwares | 02:43 |
Guest44 | thats it didnt prompt me a window exactly | 02:43 |
Guest44 | that *tgz file i mean | 02:44 |
MercFredis | yes look in the tgz for a .bin | 02:44 |
MercFredis | or... you know, a bios file, a binary bios file | 02:44 |
MercFredis | that hardware's really old man :) i dunno, good luck | 02:45 |
Guest44 | thank you anyway | 02:45 |
Guest44 | ill see what I can do | 02:45 |
MercFredis | ive been running linux for 30+ years, i can think of things i'd try but, without me being there to help ya | 02:45 |
MercFredis | not sure what else i can do. i think you probably need to update the bios. the linux .tgz looks like it should have a bios image, and i see the BCU you installed, it *might* allow you to update the bios? | 02:46 |
MercFredis | it'll take some doin'. good luck | 02:46 |
Guest44 | y.. MercFredis can you left me connection to my message box if i am unable to fix it later on ? thanks | 02:48 |
MercFredis | linux has a large community, and surely someone else has that hardware | 02:49 |
MercFredis | try to find someone else running recent linux on that hardware | 02:49 |
MercFredis | i mean you can message me, i've been trying to help but the honest truth is, i would probably just need to be in front of it and see what you're seeing | 02:50 |
Guest44 | i have found the files | 02:50 |
MercFredis | you've got a weird problem there | 02:50 |
Guest44 | i messaged u | 02:50 |
Guest44 | well i can get you on remote | 02:50 |
Guest44 | from my phone if you dont mind | 02:50 |
Guest44 | just tell me what apps do you use so I can show u | 02:50 |
Guest44 | if you are busy right now we can do it later | 02:51 |
Guest44 | y | 02:51 |
MercFredis | this is a problem for a computer expert, and i cant do it long distance | 02:51 |
MercFredis | maybe someone else can help | 02:51 |
Guest44 | okay | 02:52 |
Guest44 | yea no problems | 02:52 |
Guest44 | i have files at least | 02:52 |
Guest44 | from the tgz | 02:52 |
Guest44 | ill try what i can do | 02:52 |
MercFredis | take pic of files, upload to imgur | 02:52 |
MercFredis | and dont send pics of just folders, i need to see whole list of files | 02:52 |
Guest44 | https://imgur.com/a/Jos8Mrt | 02:53 |
MercFredis | yes, as i said | 02:53 |
MercFredis | what is in BIOS_CD | 02:53 |
MercFredis | what is in DOS_Flash | 02:53 |
MercFredis | read the readme | 02:54 |
MercFredis | yer gonna have to pull your weight here, mate | 02:54 |
MercFredis | you're looking for the binary BIOS file to flash with the BCU you installed ealier in windows | 02:54 |
MercFredis | if youve never flashed a BIOS before, i cant walk you through that | 02:54 |
Guest44 | https://imgur.com/a/Jos8Mrt | 02:55 |
Guest44 | alright | 02:55 |
MercFredis | .iso is a CD image, that does nothing for us | 02:55 |
MercFredis | what is contents of DOS_Flash | 02:56 |
MercFredis | (actually the ISO may have the BIOS image file) X) | 02:56 |
Guest44 | y | 02:57 |
Guest44 | i attached 3 image sdo you see them | 02:57 |
MercFredis | read the readme | 02:57 |
Guest44 | so write it as image on usb and boot it ? | 02:57 |
MercFredis | read the docs | 02:57 |
Guest44 | oky | 02:57 |
MercFredis | in the bad old days, we said rtfm | 02:57 |
MercFredis | look at the readme, look at the pdf, they should point you to how to update bios | 02:58 |
MercFredis | somehow | 02:58 |
MercFredis | the BCU probably also came with docs | 02:58 |
MercFredis | get used to reading documentation now, you'll need it running linux | 02:58 |
Guest44 | thank you ill do that | 02:59 |
MercFredis | good luck, time for me to head to bed | 02:59 |
MercFredis | ill prolly be around tomorrow some | 02:59 |
Guest44 | i hope me too | 02:59 |
MercFredis | ohw ait | 02:59 |
Guest44 | 1. Copy xxx_MMmm.bin from DOS_Flash to your removable media. | 03:00 |
Guest44 | i.e. usb or CD-rom | 03:00 |
Guest44 | 2. Reboot system and follow instructions from | 03:00 |
Guest44 | F10 Setup BIOS Flashing below | 03:00 |
Guest44 | so far this is what i've found | 03:00 |
MercFredis | hey... there you go | 03:00 |
Guest44 | but i think ill be fine from there on | 03:00 |
MercFredis | look in DOS_Flash. as i said, the .bin file is the bios | 03:00 |
MercFredis | yes | 03:00 |
MercFredis | then use BCU app probably, or burn the ISO and also have the .bin file on removable media | 03:01 |
MercFredis | use whatever bios flashing tool you have access to (looks like you have at least 2, linux and windows) and get that .bin update installed | 03:01 |
Guest44 | this is different form balena and rufus right ? | 03:03 |
Guest44 | or ? | 03:03 |
Guest44 | it says just to copy and restart | 03:03 |
MercFredis | last time i say this. the .bin is not a program, it is just an image file, like an .iso. you need a flash utility to install it | 03:04 |
MercFredis | read the documentation | 03:04 |
Guest44 | i got it | 03:04 |
MercFredis | ok | 03:04 |
Guest44 | good night and big thanks, if you send me your email i would treat you with something | 03:05 |
Guest44 | if that work out | 03:05 |
MercFredis | what is the filename on the bin | 03:05 |
Guest44 | 7G3_0361 | 03:05 |
Guest44 | 7G3_0361 and this is the disc image in /BIOS_CD | 03:06 |
MercFredis | ok, that should be 3.61. i found a link to 3.60 so | 03:06 |
Guest44 | same is in /DOS_FLASH | 03:06 |
MercFredis | that should be good | 03:06 |
MercFredis | yes. you can probably use the BCU for windows you installed earlier... otherwise you can use that .iso in the tgz | 03:06 |
MercFredis | burn it to another cd or removable USB | 03:06 |
MercFredis | that is probably also a utility | 03:06 |
MercFredis | to get the .bin into your bios | 03:07 |
MercFredis | i would burn the ISO to a CD, and put the .bin on a removable USB | 03:07 |
MercFredis | boot from CD, utility will ask for bios file, point to it on the removable USB | 03:08 |
MercFredis | (maybe) | 03:08 |
MercFredis | actually first i'd try the BCU windows app | 03:08 |
MercFredis | not promising it will install, but it might | 03:09 |
Guest44 | no free cd | 03:11 |
Guest44 | flashed it on another USB | 03:11 |
Guest44 | and ill try restart and see if its working | 03:11 |
MercFredis | you need to run a bios update utility to install the .bin file | 03:12 |
MercFredis | the .bin file will do nothing on its own | 03:12 |
Guest44 | well.......... | 03:14 |
Guest44 | yea.,. so i have something | 03:14 |
Guest44 | in there | 03:14 |
MercFredis | i must've typed it 4 times now bro | 03:14 |
Guest44 | cant just flash it and restart | 03:14 |
Guest44 | okay | 03:14 |
MercFredis | if you cant handle this, you might not have fun with linux | 03:14 |
MercFredis | i dont mean to discourage you, but you're not reading the docs | 03:14 |
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Guddu | I have now installed Ubuntu twice and each time the installation succeeded but the boot fails nevertheless. | 05:59 |
LuckyMan | Guddu, how does it fail? | 06:04 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, It simple does not start the OS and moves on to the next item in the boot order. | 06:05 |
LuckyMan | Guddu, press shift while booting, it will give you grub menu with all the items | 06:06 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, I tried that but pressing shift had no effect at all. | 06:09 |
LuckyMan | Guddu what are the other items? Windows? | 06:13 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, No other items. This is a IBM System x3100 M4 server on which I installed Ubuntu server alone. It has 1 HDD. | 06:14 |
LuckyMan | Guddu, so what's the "next item in the boot order"? | 06:15 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, It has HDD0, Windows Boot Manager, USB, CD/ROM a | 06:16 |
LuckyMan | Guddu, try to disable secure boot | 06:17 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, There is no SecureBoot option in the settings anywhere. | 06:18 |
LuckyMan | Guddu, what happens when you choose HDD0? | 06:19 |
Guddu | Boot Failed. Hard Disk 0 | 06:20 |
Guddu | This is the message | 06:20 |
LuckyMan | Guddu, how did you installed Ubunutu? Describe the process. | 06:20 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, I create a install media using ubuntu-24.04-live-server-amd64.iso. Its basicallly a 16 GB Pen Drive. I used rufus for creating the USB installer. Partinioning scheme was GPT. The boot with the USB worked fine and I selected the language, keyboard type etc etc. | 06:22 |
Guddu | I used the entire hard disk for the install (931 GB) | 06:22 |
LuckyMan | did you choose erase disk and install Ubuntu? | 06:23 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, Yes. I erased disk | 06:23 |
LuckyMan | If you erased the disk it's odd you have Windows Boot Manager | 06:24 |
LuckyMan | Maybe you didn't really erased the disk but you erased the Windows partition | 06:28 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, Could i share a video with you? | 06:29 |
LuckyMan | erasing the disk would wipe all the partitions | 06:29 |
LuckyMan | yes | 06:29 |
Guddu | I have uploaded a 4Mb video here. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bf1y757tetjulkankvem5/Video_Ubuntu_Server_Install_Boot_Options.mp4?rlkey=b6ykykuajk5mvim0nzy702n4v&dl=0 | 06:31 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, I will now try to get the screenshot of the install page where we set the disks | 06:33 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, Now it is not even booting with my USB install media. Weird indeed. So i had a DVD with Old Ubuntu version lysing around. I tried with that and I see a message that might give some hint. Here it is https://prnt.sc/8mhKtfNZlvXT | 06:37 |
Guddu | I am not sure why it says BIOS Compatibility mode. What could that be? | 06:38 |
Guddu | Shall i continue in UEFI mode as I don't really care about any other OS | 06:39 |
LuckyMan | Try BIOS Compatibility mode | 06:39 |
LuckyMan | It's just the old way to manage your computer | 06:41 |
Guddu | Ok. I selected Go Back | 06:41 |
Guddu | Then "Erase Disk and Install Ubuntu" | 06:41 |
LuckyMan | also select third party software since it's the drivers if you need them | 06:43 |
LuckyMan | you might need to change the mode in the computer BIOS to BIOS instead of UEFI, if that makes sense | 06:54 |
LuckyMan | but just try what you are trying | 06:54 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, Now it got installed. I am at the login prompt now. | 06:56 |
LuckyMan | Good, you did it :-) | 06:57 |
Guddu | There isn't a way to change to BIOS instead of UEFI in the options that I get upon pressing F1 | 06:57 |
LuckyMan | never mind that, if you got login you are good to go | 06:58 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, I am using 16.10 as that was the DVD i had. | 06:59 |
Guddu | I will now try again with my USB may be? | 06:59 |
LuckyMan | Oh lord... that's old | 06:59 |
LuckyMan | Yes, try again | 06:59 |
LuckyMan | same steps | 06:59 |
Guddu | Very sluggish despite such good hardware | 06:59 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, With the 2404 installer i never got that UEFI related warning though | 07:00 |
LuckyMan | because it probably tries to install in UEFI mode | 07:01 |
LuckyMan | but this time your disk was really erased | 07:01 |
LuckyMan | so I wouldn't worry about wich mode you use | 07:02 |
LuckyMan | if you run into trouble try 22.04, it's still ok | 07:02 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, Weird that now its not even booting from that same USB Media. I am trying to sort that out first. | 07:05 |
LuckyMan | Guddu maybe your iso or media is currupted | 07:09 |
Guddu | LuckyMan, Just a while ago it worked though | 07:10 |
LuckyMan | it can be not ok and work anyway. Try Ventoy. It's simpler. | 07:11 |
LuckyMan | with ventoy you just have to copy the iso to the USB media | 07:12 |
LuckyMan | and download the iso again | 07:12 |
LuckyMan | I have to go, good luck! | 07:12 |
Guddu | Thanks luckyman. I will try it now. | 07:24 |
=== uf93 is now known as uf | ||
=== TomTom_ is now known as TomTom | ||
BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:00 |
HiHoGo | Hi all several years ago in ubuntu I had an application that would allow me to rip cds to my computer to mp3 files. it also had option to connect to gracenote online to get album info. i am sure it was an app just for this purpose. anyone have any idea what it might have been. thanks for your help. | 12:31 |
CosmicDJ | HiHoGo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping | 12:33 |
HiHoGo | thanks CosmicDJ | 12:33 |
HiHoGo | hi all is there a way to make a system menu to access apps etc unity doesent have anything. | 12:45 |
lotuspsychj3 | HiHoGo: classicmenu-indicator does that | 12:45 |
lotuspsychj3 | !info classicmenu-incidator | 12:45 |
ubottu | Package classicmenu-incidator does not exist in noble | 12:45 |
HiHoGo | ok do i need to get it from the repos | 12:45 |
HiHoGo | i am on ubuntu 16.?? atm | 12:46 |
lotuspsychj3 | !info classicmenu-indicator | 12:46 |
ubottu | classicmenu-indicator (0.11-0ubuntu1, noble): indicator showing the main menu from GNOME Classic. In component universe, is optional. Built by classicmenu-indicator. Size 43 kB / 351 kB | 12:46 |
lotuspsychj3 | HiHoGo: 16.04 is eol by now | 12:47 |
HiHoGo | yeah ok I understand. | 12:47 |
HiHoGo | weird ubuntu doesent have a menu though. | 12:47 |
lotuspsychj3 | HiHoGo: clean install a supported version from this channels topic if you like | 12:47 |
HiHoGo | yep i can do that just running to see. that si all. | 12:48 |
HiHoGo | great. | 12:48 |
vortexx | HiHoGo: the menu is replaced by the app bar on the left of the screen + pressing the left windows key brings up a search system that allows you to search for apps not in the app bar | 12:50 |
HiHoGo | very inconvenient i think that is why i stoped using ubuntu. too hard to find apps etc if they aren't in the app bar. | 12:52 |
HiHoGo | i want a single place for all the installed stuff to find it. thats all | 12:52 |
|N3on21| | is there a way to view my upload and download activity in the menu bare as it is in Kali linux ? | 13:26 |
oxfuxxx | with gnome there must be a gnome-extension for that, but with ubuntu probably not, howevr things like conky can display that on your desktop. | 13:27 |
oxfuxxx | with vnstat also. | 13:28 |
|N3on21| | ohh cool - let me look into that :) thanks | 13:28 |
vortexx | |N3on21|: https://extensions.gnome.org/ has a bunch of extensions for network traffic indicators | 13:35 |
|N3on21| | thx | 13:37 |
theos | hihi | 13:49 |
theos | whats the name of the screenshot software that comes with 24.04? | 13:50 |
lotuspsychj3 | its built in gnome theos | 13:51 |
theos | lotuspsychj3 so i cant install it on lubuntu? | 13:51 |
lotuspsychj3 | theos: no | 13:52 |
theos | any screen recorder you suggest thats like it? | 13:53 |
lotuspsychj3 | lubuntu has one by default right? | 13:53 |
lotuspsychj3 | !info flameshot | 13:54 |
ubottu | flameshot (12.1.0-2build2, noble): Powerful yet simple-to-use screenshot software. In component universe, is optional. Built by flameshot. Size 618 kB / 2,964 kB | 13:54 |
theos | oh wait. i am still on ubuntu. just the DE is plasma. can i still run the built-in screenshot software? | 13:54 |
lotuspsychj3 | theos: in gnome, if you type screenshot in dash, it will come up | 13:56 |
lotuspsychj3 | or use prt scr button | 13:57 |
theos | aha! flameshot is amazing. thanks. had it in 18.04 | 13:57 |
lotuspsychj3 | !info kazaam | 14:04 |
ubottu | Package kazaam does not exist in noble | 14:04 |
lotuspsychj3 | !info kazam | 14:04 |
ubottu | kazam (1.4.5-6, noble): screencast and screenshot application created with design in mind. In component universe, is optional. Built by kazam. Size 741 kB / 1,692 kB | 14:04 |
Diagon | Any way to get rid of the endless intel_powerclamp messages in dmesg? | 14:51 |
oerheks | intel_powerclamp messages, they only appear when your CPU was overheating | 14:58 |
anshag2007 | hi | 15:32 |
anshag2007 | i needed some help | 15:32 |
anshag2007 | i installed firefox through mozilla's ppa and | 15:32 |
anshag2007 | i get this warning everytime i run it | 15:32 |
rjwiii | anshag2007: Ask | 15:32 |
anshag2007 | W: : Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024) | 15:33 |
anshag2007 | what should i do | 15:33 |
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anshag2007 | how do i ignore this warning | 15:34 |
anshag2007 | it also appears when i do apt update | 15:34 |
ravage | https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/ubuntu-24-04-warns-about-weak-algorithm-for-mozillateam-ppa/133749 | 15:37 |
anshag2007 | ok | 15:37 |
ravage | so i would not use that PPA at all | 15:38 |
LuckyMan | use the snap | 15:38 |
anshag2007 | so what should i do | 15:38 |
ravage | use the snap or the official repo on that link | 15:38 |
anshag2007 | ok | 15:38 |
anshag2007 | ty | 15:38 |
anshag2007 | how do i migrate | 15:39 |
anshag2007 | my current data | 15:39 |
anshag2007 | like my cookies and cache | 15:39 |
ravage | the snap should do that on first run | 15:39 |
anshag2007 | if its possible | 15:39 |
anshag2007 | no like | 15:39 |
anshag2007 | my logged in apps | 15:39 |
anshag2007 | i dont want to log in again | 15:39 |
anshag2007 | is that even possible | 15:39 |
oerheks | log in to sync back ? | 15:40 |
ravage | also the snap migrates your firefox config on the first run i think | 15:40 |
anshag2007 | hey cant i just use flatpak | 15:40 |
oerheks | unreasonable not to login. even with flatpak | 15:40 |
ravage | why do you want to add another package source? | 15:40 |
ravage | snap already exists on your system | 15:41 |
anshag2007 | because i dont want to use snap | 15:41 |
LuckyMan | why not? | 15:41 |
anshag2007 | i do have flatpak on here | 15:41 |
ravage | you can use whatever you like. | 15:41 |
anshag2007 | uhh because ive only heard badthings about it | 15:41 |
ravage | it is not supported by Ubuntu | 15:41 |
anshag2007 | oh | 15:41 |
anshag2007 | ok | 15:41 |
anshag2007 | look im a total beginnet | 15:41 |
anshag2007 | beginner | 15:41 |
anshag2007 | not even a month since i switched to linux | 15:42 |
anshag2007 | because this laptop is super slow | 15:42 |
ravage | and you already installed a PPA? | 15:42 |
ravage | why? | 15:42 |
LuckyMan | snaps are ok | 15:42 |
ravage | your ubuntu came with the firefox snap | 15:42 |
oerheks | so the large ubuntu community supports snap, but you have a reason not to use it. | 15:42 |
anshag2007 | im using xubuntu but its an official flavour right | 15:42 |
ravage | it is | 15:42 |
anshag2007 | yea so i got the minimal version because previously i was on mint cinnamon | 15:43 |
LuckyMan | don't install PPA's it messes your system | 15:43 |
anshag2007 | how do you reply to messages in irc | 15:43 |
anshag2007 | ok | 15:43 |
oerheks | LuckyMan, not true, the ppa's are just in transition to that 2096 key | 15:43 |
oerheks | or 4096 | 15:44 |
anshag2007 | so do i go back to the snap version of firefox? | 15:44 |
oerheks | but it is like snap flatpak and appimage; trust the maintainer | 15:44 |
anshag2007 | cant i just ignore the warning somehow | 15:45 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: snap is the standard | 15:45 |
anshag2007 | i dont wanna migrate again | 15:45 |
anshag2007 | okay... | 15:45 |
gordonjcp | there are downsides to snap, which you will never in practice encounter | 15:46 |
anshag2007 | idk honestly my source of info is random articles on the internet this is my first time on irc | 15:46 |
gordonjcp | most of the people going "ZOMG SNAP BAD!!!!111!!!!" are just people who don't really understand the implications repeating things they've half-understood | 15:46 |
anshag2007 | ive heard snap takes more resources | 15:46 |
gordonjcp | there's also one very very very important security consideration, that you must not lose sight of | 15:46 |
gordonjcp | no-one cares about you | 15:47 |
anshag2007 | is that true | 15:47 |
anshag2007 | huh? | 15:47 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: yes,-ish | 15:47 |
oerheks | the more pages you open, the more resources you use | 15:47 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: no-one thinks you're worth the effort to break into | 15:47 |
oerheks | lolz | 15:47 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: so it's all a bit theoretical | 15:47 |
oerheks | fud | 15:48 |
LuckyMan | a snap is a container so everything you need to run the app is inside the snap. | 15:48 |
anshag2007 | okay | 15:48 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: your threat model comes down to two things - you're either up against Mossad or Not-Mossad | 15:48 |
anshag2007 | well then i will just go back to the snap version of firefox i guess | 15:48 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: if your problem today is Mossad, you're already screwed, you were hours ago | 15:48 |
gordonjcp | you didn't even know it | 15:48 |
anshag2007 | mossad? | 15:48 |
oerheks | please, no politics, thanks. | 15:49 |
anshag2007 | ig im the youngest guy here | 15:49 |
gordonjcp | if your problem today is Not-Mossad, then basic information hygiene like not using the same password for Office 365 as you use for dodgysketchypornsite.ru will probably be adequate | 15:49 |
oerheks | gordonjcp, lets not. | 15:49 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: you just need to keep it basic | 15:49 |
anshag2007 | what is he even talking about | 15:49 |
anshag2007 | ok | 15:50 |
anshag2007 | i will | 15:50 |
oerheks | snap install firefox | 15:50 |
anshag2007 | and like my logins in this version? | 15:50 |
anshag2007 | like ive logged into google and stuff | 15:50 |
anshag2007 | cant i imigrate them | 15:50 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: just install firefox through the snaps, you might also find if you've blown away the "snaps" directory in your homedir you need to install something like firefox-desktop-integrations | 15:50 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: if you install the snap, it ought to be smart enough to detect that | 15:50 |
oerheks | sure you can migrate them. | 15:50 |
anshag2007 | yea ive deleted the snaps directly | 15:51 |
anshag2007 | directory* | 15:51 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: yeah, that makes a mess, there's something to do with desktop integrations you need to reinstall too | 15:51 |
oerheks | sounds more like you run linux mint... | 15:51 |
anshag2007 | dude i shouldnt have done this stuff honestly | 15:51 |
anshag2007 | i just wasted my time | 15:51 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: "snapd-desktop-integration" I think? | 15:51 |
anshag2007 | no | 15:51 |
anshag2007 | i used to | 15:51 |
anshag2007 | i switched to xubuntu because i just didnt like mint xfce | 15:51 |
anshag2007 | and i wanted xfce for thispotato | 15:51 |
anshag2007 | ok let me do those commands | 15:52 |
gordonjcp | I thought Mint used MATE | 15:52 |
gordonjcp | which is like Gnome 2 | 15:52 |
anshag2007 | it has an xfce version | 15:52 |
anshag2007 | but it was odd | 15:52 |
anshag2007 | like sluggish | 15:52 |
anshag2007 | and it had slowdowns | 15:52 |
anshag2007 | so do i just do snap install snapd-desktop-integrations? | 15:53 |
anshag2007 | so is this my cue to stop visiting sites on the internet to take help about linux | 15:55 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: yes | 15:55 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: the defaults that come with it are generally sensible | 15:55 |
anshag2007 | okay ill keep that in mind | 15:55 |
LuckyMan | just do two things: 1) delete your PPA 2) sudo snap install firefox | 15:55 |
anshag2007 | ok | 15:56 |
gordonjcp | also don't be afraid to just blow it all away and reinstall | 15:56 |
gordonjcp | you keep backups, right? | 15:56 |
anshag2007 | yep | 15:57 |
anshag2007 | timeshift | 15:57 |
anshag2007 | gordon how is the color of your name changing | 15:57 |
LuckyMan | probably the color changed because he used your nick on the sentence | 15:58 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: if I type something with your name at the start, it'll be highlighted to show I'm talking to you | 15:58 |
LuckyMan | like this anshag2007 | 15:59 |
anshag2007 | oh | 15:59 |
anshag2007 | damn | 15:59 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: type "gor<TAB>" and it ough to autocomplete my nick, and add a colon at the end | 15:59 |
anshag2007 | thats cool | 15:59 |
anshag2007 | gordonjcp: hi | 15:59 |
anshag2007 | oohh | 15:59 |
gordonjcp | or type Luck<tab> | 15:59 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: yay! | 15:59 |
anshag2007 | this is like discord but i believe this tech existed since the 90s | 15:59 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: yeah, mid-90s | 15:59 |
gordonjcp | I was around for that | 15:59 |
* gordonjcp is terribly old | 15:59 | |
LuckyMan | this is way better than discord, but this is offtopic | 15:59 |
anshag2007 | Luckyyoooo | 15:59 |
anshag2007 | huh | 15:59 |
gordonjcp | yeah very offtopic | 16:00 |
anshag2007 | okay.. | 16:00 |
anshag2007 | i mean im too young to know this stuff ig | 16:00 |
gordonjcp | anshag2007: but hey, you learned a bunch of new things today, which is that's what it's all about eh? | 16:00 |
anshag2007 | the snap firefox is installing btw | 16:00 |
anshag2007 | yea true | 16:00 |
anshag2007 | i deleted my snap apps, reinstalled them through their deb couterparts, then reinstalled snap, reinstalled ppa firefox and now im going back to snap packages | 16:01 |
anshag2007 | all of it is a part of the process i guess | 16:01 |
anshag2007 | actually im just dumb | 16:01 |
anshag2007 | i like to overcomplicate things | 16:01 |
LuckyMan | you can keep the debs, no worries | 16:01 |
LuckyMan | I use .deb, snap, flatpak and appImage. Just no PPA's | 16:02 |
anshag2007 | hey gordon | 16:02 |
anshag2007 | how old are you | 16:02 |
anshag2007 | '***gordonjcp is terribly old' | 16:03 |
anshag2007 | ok | 16:03 |
LuckyMan | try /me thinks ubuntu is fun | 16:03 |
anshag2007 | y'all are kind of intimidating lol honestly | 16:03 |
* anshag2007 thinks ubuntu is fun | 16:04 | |
anshag2007 | wow | 16:04 |
anshag2007 | this place is nice | 16:04 |
anshag2007 | ok it installed | 16:05 |
anshag2007 | so i have two firefox now | 16:06 |
unklebonehead | Good morning or time appropriate greetings. | 16:06 |
anshag2007 | and it just seamlessly migrated? | 16:06 |
aiena | what migrated? | 16:06 |
anshag2007 | hi good morning | 16:06 |
anshag2007 | the data | 16:06 |
anshag2007 | firefox config | 16:06 |
anshag2007 | how do i delete the ppa version | 16:06 |
anshag2007 | hey i also installed fastfetch through ppa should i delete that too | 16:07 |
oerheks | weird, your ppa gave an error about keys, so it never installed firefox? | 16:08 |
anshag2007 | it did | 16:08 |
anshag2007 | it was a warning in the terminal and an error dialouge at startup | 16:08 |
anshag2007 | but it did launch firefox | 16:08 |
anshag2007 | ok how do i uninstall it | 16:08 |
anshag2007 | the ppa version | 16:09 |
LuckyMan | sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:name/here | 16:09 |
anshag2007 | so should i remove my fastfetch too | 16:09 |
anshag2007 | its ppa aswell | 16:09 |
LuckyMan | it's your choice. If things go bad, it's probably because of PPA's | 16:10 |
anshag2007 | whats the name/here for firefox | 16:10 |
anshag2007 | how do i know that | 16:10 |
oerheks | some have strong opinions. | 16:10 |
LuckyMan | anshag2007, you can search history on your terminal and see what command you used | 16:11 |
anshag2007 | ok | 16:12 |
LuckyMan | just use the up arrow key | 16:12 |
anshag2007 | i also did this command off of a tutorial | 16:12 |
anshag2007 | echo 'Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins:: "LP-PPA-mozillateam:${distro_codename}";' | sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/51unattended-upgrades-firefox | 16:13 |
anshag2007 | is this smth bad | 16:13 |
anshag2007 | it was to enable auto updates igz? | 16:13 |
anshag2007 | ig?* | 16:13 |
Infrared_ | anshag2007: What was it you were trying to do in the first place? When you installed/made all these changes, that is | 16:13 |
anshag2007 | i just read off of the internet that snap is bad | 16:14 |
anshag2007 | idk | 16:14 |
anshag2007 | and i wanted non snap counterparts of my apps | 16:14 |
anshag2007 | but then i had to reenable snap anyways because livepatch wouldnt work | 16:14 |
rbox | so you read somethign and just accepted it as fact without understading why in the first place/ | 16:15 |
rbox | ? | 16:15 |
anshag2007 | it was on itsfoss | 16:15 |
anshag2007 | it seems to be a reputable website | 16:15 |
rbox | oh, well if it was on some rando mwebsite... | 16:15 |
rbox | it must be fact | 16:15 |
oerheks | just do a fresh install. | 16:15 |
anshag2007 | its not like that i mean that website seems credible | 16:15 |
anshag2007 | hey its not that bad | 16:15 |
anshag2007 | its fine | 16:15 |
Infrared_ | anshag2007: You installed a bunch of random PPAs rather than just pull in updates as per usual though, I'm just trying to get why you would do that to begin with :) Nothing that you've done is actually necessary to get Firefox updates. | 16:15 |
anshag2007 | just this ppa thing | 16:16 |
anshag2007 | just a single ppa | 16:16 |
anshag2007 | i did what i assumed was right | 16:16 |
anshag2007 | i dunno | 16:16 |
anshag2007 | im dumb | 16:16 |
rbox | just dont read one page and blindly follwo it without undrestand anyting about i t | 16:17 |
rbox | you'll be fine | 16:17 |
anshag2007 | well okay right now im removing the mfirefox ppa ig everything else is fine | 16:18 |
anshag2007 | wait it didnt get removed | 16:19 |
anshag2007 | the command luckyman gave didnt work ig | 16:19 |
anshag2007 | its still there | 16:19 |
rbox | what the hell is 'ig' | 16:19 |
anshag2007 | oh i guess im too young to be here | 16:19 |
anshag2007 | ig is short for i guess | 16:19 |
rbox | we already know you're guessing... | 16:19 |
Infrared_ | anshag2007: The smart thing to do at this stage honestly, would be to do a clean install and follow the instructinos the installer gives you :) Following them from different websites has gotten things so tangled up that it's impossible to effectively debug anything | 16:20 |
anshag2007 | yea... | 16:20 |
anshag2007 | well dude this is like my third or fourth os install | 16:20 |
rbox | you'll figure it out eventually | 16:20 |
anshag2007 | ive switched them so many times and reinstalled and things | 16:20 |
rbox | its easy to install though | 16:20 |
anshag2007 | im honestly tired | 16:20 |
anshag2007 | well okay | 16:21 |
ioria | anshag2007, is that you ? https://github.com/AnshAg2007/AnshAg2007 'cause it does not seem a 'total beginner' | 16:21 |
anshag2007 | ill do it | 16:21 |
anshag2007 | yes | 16:21 |
anshag2007 | thats me | 16:21 |
anshag2007 | that was me | 16:21 |
anshag2007 | when i was into coding | 16:21 |
anshag2007 | now ive become a total sloth | 16:21 |
anshag2007 | see i knew a lot about linux | 16:22 |
anshag2007 | but you can say that | 16:22 |
anshag2007 | i forgot | 16:22 |
LuckyMan | anshag2007, you have to sudo apt remove firefox | 16:23 |
Infrared_ | anshag2007: You knew enough to break your system to an extent that I've never seen before, a reinstall should be easy :) You just skip the dozen or so steps that it took to get you there in the first place | 16:23 |
anshag2007 | hey its not broken honestly | 16:23 |
anshag2007 | its just a ppa | 16:23 |
anshag2007 | im doing what luckyman says | 16:24 |
anshag2007 | LuckyMan the command worked | 16:24 |
anshag2007 | the ppa version isnt there now | 16:24 |
anshag2007 | everything is fine it seems | 16:25 |
LuckyMan | anshag2007, on another day, just do a clean install. It's easy and you don't get things messed up | 16:25 |
anshag2007 | well i will do that | 16:25 |
anshag2007 | if i mess more things up | 16:25 |
anshag2007 | :') | 16:25 |
LuckyMan | right now carry on, break the system it's good if you don't make errors you don't learn | 16:26 |
anshag2007 | okee | 16:26 |
anshag2007 | thanks a lot y'all | 16:26 |
anshag2007 | today was a big day | 16:26 |
anshag2007 | bye | 16:26 |
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monty_hall | I'm running windows in qmu. Right now it's using NAT. I'd like to create a bridge that uses my wifi card. Using network manager gui it only shows my ethernet card. After some googling it sounds like you can't bridge wifi. Is this true? | 16:41 |
rbox | yes | 16:42 |
rbox | virtualbox has some awful hacky stuff to make it sort of work | 16:42 |
Guddu | After installing ubuntu server on a machine if i do sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop then will it change to ubuntu desktop or retain the server characteristics with just the desktop enabled? | 16:59 |
Guddu | Or will it become the same as if I had installed ubuntu desktop to start with? | 17:00 |
rbox | what is "server characteristics" | 17:00 |
Guddu | rbox, Like all the binaries/apps etc installed by ubuntu server iso? | 17:01 |
rbox | well when you do the apt, it'll tell yo uwhat its going to install or remove | 17:02 |
oerheks | adding a desktop does not change services setup on a server. | 17:09 |
ioria | Guddu, mind network-manager ; it will became default | 17:38 |
GrandPa-G | I need help getting my mqtt web page talking to my mosquito broker. I know the broker works with a local python program. I know the web page will work with a remote web site. I just can't get it to work with the local site. The web page is hosted on the same system as the broker via apache. | 19:50 |
GrandPa-G | This is the mosquitto conf file https://pastebin.com/5TQGrnt7 | 19:52 |
GrandPa-G | This is the web page https://pastebin.com/L7e5pMjK | 19:53 |
hwpplayer1 | I can't visit the last link | 19:54 |
GrandPa-G | The error it gets on connect is mqttws31.js:916 WebSocket connection to 'ws://localhost:9000/mqtt' failed: | 19:54 |
hwpplayer1 | also the other | 19:54 |
GrandPa-G | both come up file for me. There are no restrictions on them | 19:55 |
GrandPa-G | file->fine | 19:56 |
hwpplayer1 | please upload your files on another service like termbin.com or 0x0.st | 19:57 |
GrandPa-G | why? termbin.com has no place to enter anything, just an explanation page. I will look at the other one. | 20:07 |
GrandPa-G | mosquitto.con https://bpa.st/Z4PA | 20:08 |
GrandPa-G | web page https://bpa.st/CZFQ | 20:09 |
vspr | hello | 21:44 |
oerheks | :-) | 21:44 |
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