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ar_hola01:24
Guest31hi guys, is there anyone who guide me slightly about 1 issue or redirect me to some help channel, thanks01:32
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Guest31ubottu thanks, im facing kernel-panic error unable to sync etc. literally did everything I can get to can't troubleshoot it. theres no problem to install it on VMS but on my pc I can't. Have access to GRUB, have been adding commands after "quiet splash" ; have tried so different options but still have no luck" can't boot it from live environment,01:36
Guest31another usb, safe graphics, I either disable all my other stuff - just to be able to boot it. But no01:36
Guest31my last thing is to wipe everything on my HDD and start over but im not so much down to that01:37
Bashing-omGuest31: Lets get the small stuff out of the way --- did you verify the .ISO download and how did you copy the .ISO file ? such that we know the foundation is firm for trouble shooting.01:40
Guest31yes I many times, .iso from official site -> belena/rufus (different version even tried) -> bios options all set01:42
Guest31it boots - i can get to grub but when i start to booting after vmlinuz initrd it starts to load then kernel-panic appears01:43
MercFredisunable to sync what?01:43
MercFrediswhats the exact wording of the error01:43
Guest31mmm let me chech I might have screenshot somewhere here01:43
MercFredisthis is an error thrown when you try to boot a liveCD?01:43
MercFredisor this is your installed system01:44
Guest31when i boot from usb, im at my windows os atm01:44
MercFredisas someone said, verify your .iso image, also try another USB stick/card/whatever01:45
Guest31MercFredis where to verify ? i'm veryfing it only in rufus. is that okay or ?01:47
MercFredisif rufus does a md5sum check, that's fine01:47
Guest31have tried another usb-ports/usb-devices - same01:48
MercFredisso you have a linux install but its not booting either"?01:48
Guest31no, it's my first attempt to install ubuntu on this machine01:48
MercFredisoh01:48
Guest31have bootable usb only01:49
MercFredisyeah getting the text of the error would help01:49
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Guest31i've installed in virtualbox  - then uninstall it because I decided to go straight on my pc01:49
Guest31and that  happend01:49
MercFredisi dunno, something bad wrong if Ubuntu install media throws an error, but windows is booting so01:50
MercFredishard to say what's wrong01:50
MercFrediswe need error messages01:50
Guest31y.. it's internet option worth for booting ?01:50
Guest31idk what else to try01:50
MercFredisdont know what you mean, netboot?01:51
MercFredisnevermind that01:51
Guest31okay ill get back here soon im going to shoot it01:51
MercFredisget the error on a screenshot, and transcribe it for us here01:51
MercFredisor post to image site or something01:51
MercFrediswe need to see the error mate, "something went wrong" doesn't give us any help to help you01:51
Guest31okay, brb 2-3 mins going to boot it and send u photo01:52
MercFredisalright01:52
MercFrediswell if he's used the same image to boot a VM01:53
MercFredisi guess the image is ok01:53
MercFredisunable to sync... sync a drive?  can't find a mode for X?  who knows01:54
Guest44back01:57
Guest44is there an option to attach an image or i have to send a link ?01:58
MercFredisput it on some image sharing site01:58
MercFredisi dunno whats in vogue these days01:58
MercFredisimgur will work i guess01:58
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MercFredisaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand BEGIN02:01
Guest44ubottu my region is not available to register to imgur... just great02:08
Guest44tried with twitter/facebook/google/yandex... damn02:08
MercFredisdo you need to register to imgur to upload?02:08
MercFredisjust upload without account02:08
MercFredisthat used to work02:08
Guest44https://imgur.com/a/h3CUGrx02:09
Guest44can you see it02:09
MercFredisyes02:09
Guest44(whew) thanks02:10
MercFredishow much RAM does your system have?02:10
Guest441202:11
MercFredisacpi02:11
MercFredishmm02:11
Guest44got 4 GB AMD Radeon02:11
Guest44should be no problem to run ubuntu i guess02:11
MercFredisits difficult to know exactly what's going on, but acpi means um02:11
Guest44yea02:11
Guest44have ssd also02:12
MercFredishttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1196498/dual-booting-ubuntu-kernel-panic-not-syncing-attempted-to-kill-init-exitcod02:12
MercFredisThe relevant error message from your log is the one with RIP: acpi_ex_system_memory_space_handler. This type of kernel panic is most often the result of the BIOS being outdated. In many cases, there will be an update for your BIOS, but whether there is one, and how to apply it, depends entirely on your hardware.02:12
MercFredisthe linux kernel is having trouble with your system's BIOS, see if there's an update for it02:13
MercFredisyou need to read more, google for "acpi_ex_system_memory_space_handler ubuntu" and you'll see what im seeing02:13
Guest44can i run that by command prompt ?02:13
MercFredisthere are many posts02:13
MercFredisyou arent the only one to see this02:14
Guest44i see02:14
MercFredisrun what by command prompt?  update your bios in Windows02:14
enigma9o7If you "apci=off" does it boot normal?02:14
MercFredisyeah that's a thought but02:14
Guest44nope it still gets this message02:14
Guest44i have added it after quiet splash02:14
MercFredison the same line, right02:15
Guest44literally u might be laughting but i had never upradint bios - never needed to02:15
Guest44yes on the linux line02:15
Guest44at the end02:15
MercFredisok02:15
enigma9o7noapic nomodeset02:16
Guest44so go on my motherboard official website and search for it ?02:16
Guest44nomodeset also02:16
MercFredisacpi=strict is another thing to try02:17
MercFredisim thinking if you can find an update for your bios, best case scenario02:17
MercFredisyes check motherboard manufacturer for updates02:17
MercFredisor computer vendor02:17
Guest44i have to update it on windows OS right ? if im using windows right now02:19
enigma9o7follow the mfg instructions.  sometimes you do it from bios.02:20
MercFredisupdating your bios might be as easy as a windows program, some old bioses wanted you to set up a DOS bios update disk02:20
MercFredisit just depends on how old your hardware and manufacturer02:20
MercFredisas enigma9o7 said, instructions should come with the bios update02:20
Guest44sadly it have official bios drivers to win 8 , i am running win 10 right now02:22
Guest44it's an old z400 x3550 workstation - but it's upgraded with some hardware02:22
MercFredisshould still work02:22
MercFredisgive it a try02:22
enigma9o7should be fine02:22
Guest44ill try, thanks :)02:22
MercFredisoh wow, Xeon?02:24
MercFredishave fun02:24
Guest44xeon yuea02:26
Guest44wish I hadn't fun like that :D02:27
Guest442 weeks man basically tearing me apart for this02:27
MercFredisno experience there, but should work02:27
Guest44found only 1 bios utility02:27
Guest44do i neeed firmware or osmething additional to it ?02:27
MercFredisif it doesnt come with a bios image to be flashed, yes?02:28
MercFredisutility may come with it, otherwise, yeah you need bios image file02:28
Guest44the file is 2.5MB and it's installing like an application02:29
Guest44...02:29
MercFredisyes it's a flasher02:29
MercFredisis this an IBM box?02:29
Guest44BCU02:29
Guest44it was said or something02:30
MercFredisi dont know what that is02:30
Guest44so go for restart and thats it ?02:30
MercFredisproably not02:31
MercFredisrun the app it installed02:31
MercFredisthis is getting into basic computer operation02:31
MercFrediswhat is the manufacturter of the computer02:33
MercFrediss/ter/er02:33
MercFrediser no thats not right02:33
Guest44hp intel xeon z400 w355002:34
MercFredisyeah i asked if it was an IBM box, you said "BCU"02:34
MercFredisso HP yeah i see that system02:35
MercFredishang on02:35
Guest44i know IBM only as international bussines machines ;dd02:35
Guest44what stands for haha02:35
Guest44alright02:35
enigma9o7they're the company that started to count the census resulsts02:35
MercFredisim here02:36
MercFredishttps://support.hp.com/us-en/drivers/hp-z400-workstation/371866802:36
MercFredisHP Z400 Linux Workstation System BIOS02:36
MercFredis3.61 Rev.A02:36
MercFredis1.8 MB02:36
MercFredisMar 6, 201802:36
Guest44ive downloaded and installed it for windows02:37
Guest44now for linux right ?02:37
Guest44thanks02:37
* MercFredis shakes fist at bot02:38
Guest44its *tgz file02:38
Guest44this time02:38
MercFredisGuest44: well the only BIOS update file i see is one for linux02:38
MercFredisyeah, that wont help you in windows02:39
MercFredisalthough02:39
enigma9o7sweet02:39
MercFredisdid you say you found a Windows BIOS install utility?02:39
MercFredismaybe if you can use 7zip in windows or something, to open that tgz file02:39
MercFredisfind the bios image file02:39
MercFredisand hand that to whatever windows thing you previously installedf02:39
MercFredisit might just work02:40
MercFredisthat's what i would do02:40
MercFredisif indeed what you found was a BIOS utility for windows for that machine02:40
MercFrediswhich i dont even see in this software list02:40
Guest44at windows 8 - it was bios utility or something02:41
Guest44same page02:41
MercFredisoh i see hang on02:41
MercFredisI see... bios configuration utility.  that may include a BIOS flasher, but you need a BIOS file. what's weird is, under the Windows, it only lists some firmwares for blu-ray burner and RAID controller02:43
Guest44ive opened it by winzip then flashy-to-flash and02:43
MercFredisi dont see any actual BIOS firmwares02:43
Guest44thats it didnt prompt me a window exactly02:43
Guest44that *tgz file i mean02:44
MercFredisyes look in the tgz for a .bin02:44
MercFredisor... you know, a bios file, a binary bios file02:44
MercFredisthat hardware's really old man :)  i dunno, good luck02:45
Guest44thank you anyway02:45
Guest44ill see what I can do02:45
MercFredisive been running linux for 30+ years, i can think of things i'd try but, without me being there to help ya02:45
MercFredisnot sure what else i can do. i think you probably need to update the bios.  the linux .tgz looks like it should have a bios image, and i see the BCU you installed, it *might* allow you to update the bios?02:46
MercFredisit'll take some doin'.  good luck02:46
Guest44y.. MercFredis can you left me connection to my message box if i am unable to fix it later on ? thanks02:48
MercFredislinux has a large community, and surely someone else has that hardware02:49
MercFredistry to find someone else running recent linux on that hardware02:49
MercFredisi mean you can message me, i've been trying to help but the honest truth is, i would probably just need to be in front of it and see what you're seeing02:50
Guest44i have found the files02:50
MercFredisyou've got a weird problem there02:50
Guest44i messaged u02:50
Guest44well i can get you on remote02:50
Guest44from my phone if you dont mind02:50
Guest44just tell me what apps do you use so I can show u02:50
Guest44if you are busy right now we can do it later02:51
Guest44y02:51
MercFredisthis is a problem for a computer expert, and i cant do it long distance02:51
MercFredismaybe someone else can help02:51
Guest44okay02:52
Guest44yea no problems02:52
Guest44i have files at least02:52
Guest44from the tgz02:52
Guest44ill try what i can do02:52
MercFredistake pic of files, upload to imgur02:52
MercFredisand dont send pics of just folders, i need to see whole list of files02:52
Guest44https://imgur.com/a/Jos8Mrt02:53
MercFredisyes, as i said02:53
MercFrediswhat is in BIOS_CD02:53
MercFrediswhat is in DOS_Flash02:53
MercFredisread the readme02:54
MercFredisyer gonna have to pull your weight here, mate02:54
MercFredisyou're looking for the binary BIOS file to flash with the BCU you installed ealier in windows02:54
MercFredisif youve never flashed a BIOS before, i cant walk you through that02:54
Guest44https://imgur.com/a/Jos8Mrt02:55
Guest44alright02:55
MercFredis.iso is a CD image, that does nothing for us02:55
MercFrediswhat is contents of DOS_Flash02:56
MercFredis(actually the ISO may have the BIOS image file) X)02:56
Guest44y02:57
Guest44i attached 3 image sdo you see them02:57
MercFredisread the readme02:57
Guest44so write it as image on usb and boot it ?02:57
MercFredisread the docs02:57
Guest44oky02:57
MercFredisin the bad old days, we said rtfm02:57
MercFredislook at the readme, look at the pdf, they should point you to how to update bios02:58
MercFredissomehow02:58
MercFredisthe BCU probably also came with docs02:58
MercFredisget used to reading documentation now, you'll need it running linux02:58
Guest44thank you ill do that02:59
MercFredisgood luck, time for me to head to bed02:59
MercFredisill prolly be around tomorrow some02:59
Guest44i hope me too02:59
MercFredisohw ait02:59
Guest44  1. Copy xxx_MMmm.bin from DOS_Flash to your removable media.03:00
Guest44 i.e. usb or CD-rom03:00
Guest44  2. Reboot system and follow instructions from03:00
Guest44 F10 Setup BIOS Flashing below03:00
Guest44so far this is what i've found03:00
MercFredishey... there you go03:00
Guest44but i think ill be fine from there on03:00
MercFredislook in DOS_Flash. as i said, the .bin file is the bios03:00
MercFredisyes03:00
MercFredisthen use BCU app probably, or burn the ISO and also have the .bin file on removable media03:01
MercFredisuse whatever bios flashing tool you have access to (looks like you have at least 2, linux and windows) and get that .bin update installed03:01
Guest44this is different form balena and rufus right ?03:03
Guest44or ?03:03
Guest44it says just to copy and restart03:03
MercFredislast time i say this.  the .bin is not a program, it is just an image file, like an .iso.  you need a flash utility to install it03:04
MercFredisread the documentation03:04
Guest44i got it03:04
MercFredisok03:04
Guest44good night and big thanks, if you send me your email i would treat you with something03:05
Guest44if that work out03:05
MercFrediswhat is the filename on the bin03:05
Guest447G3_036103:05
Guest447G3_0361 and this is the disc image in /BIOS_CD03:06
MercFredisok, that should be 3.61.  i found a link to 3.60 so03:06
Guest44same is in /DOS_FLASH03:06
MercFredisthat should be good03:06
MercFredisyes.  you can probably use the BCU for windows you installed earlier... otherwise you can use that .iso in the tgz03:06
MercFredisburn it to another cd or removable USB03:06
MercFredisthat is probably also a utility03:06
MercFredisto get the .bin into your bios03:07
MercFredisi would burn the ISO to a CD, and put the .bin on a removable USB03:07
MercFredisboot from CD, utility will ask for bios file, point to it on the removable USB03:08
MercFredis(maybe)03:08
MercFredisactually first i'd try the BCU windows app03:08
MercFredisnot promising it will install, but it might03:09
Guest44no free cd03:11
Guest44flashed it on another USB03:11
Guest44and ill try restart and see if its working03:11
MercFredisyou need to run a bios update utility to install the .bin file03:12
MercFredisthe .bin file will do nothing on its own03:12
Guest44well..........03:14
Guest44yea.,. so i have something03:14
Guest44in there03:14
MercFredisi must've typed it 4 times now bro03:14
Guest44cant just flash it and restart03:14
Guest44okay03:14
MercFredisif you cant handle this, you might not have fun with linux03:14
MercFredisi dont mean to discourage you, but you're not reading the docs03:14
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GudduI have now installed Ubuntu twice and each time the installation succeeded but the boot fails nevertheless.05:59
LuckyManGuddu, how does it fail?06:04
GudduLuckyMan, It simple does not start the OS and moves on to the next item in the boot order.06:05
LuckyManGuddu, press shift while booting, it will give you grub menu with all the items06:06
GudduLuckyMan, I tried that but pressing shift had no effect at all.06:09
LuckyManGuddu what are the other items? Windows?06:13
GudduLuckyMan, No other items. This is a  IBM System x3100 M4 server on which I installed Ubuntu server alone. It has 1 HDD.06:14
LuckyManGuddu, so what's the "next item in the boot order"?06:15
GudduLuckyMan, It has HDD0, Windows Boot Manager, USB, CD/ROM a06:16
LuckyManGuddu, try to disable secure boot06:17
GudduLuckyMan, There is no SecureBoot option in the settings anywhere.06:18
LuckyManGuddu, what happens when you choose HDD0?06:19
GudduBoot Failed. Hard Disk 006:20
GudduThis is the message06:20
LuckyManGuddu, how did you installed Ubunutu? Describe the process.06:20
GudduLuckyMan, I create a install media using ubuntu-24.04-live-server-amd64.iso. Its basicallly a 16 GB Pen Drive. I used rufus for creating the USB installer. Partinioning scheme was GPT. The boot with the USB worked fine and I selected the language, keyboard type etc etc.06:22
GudduI used the entire hard disk for the install (931 GB)06:22
LuckyMandid you choose erase disk and install Ubuntu?06:23
GudduLuckyMan, Yes. I erased disk06:23
LuckyManIf you erased the disk it's odd you have Windows Boot Manager06:24
LuckyManMaybe you didn't really erased the disk but you erased the Windows partition06:28
GudduLuckyMan, Could i share a video with you?06:29
LuckyManerasing the disk would wipe all the partitions06:29
LuckyManyes06:29
GudduI have uploaded a 4Mb video here. https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bf1y757tetjulkankvem5/Video_Ubuntu_Server_Install_Boot_Options.mp4?rlkey=b6ykykuajk5mvim0nzy702n4v&dl=006:31
GudduLuckyMan, I will now try to get the screenshot of the install page where we set the disks06:33
GudduLuckyMan, Now it is not even booting with my USB install media. Weird indeed. So i had a DVD with Old Ubuntu version lysing around. I tried with that and I see a message that might give some hint. Here it is https://prnt.sc/8mhKtfNZlvXT06:37
GudduI am not sure why it says BIOS Compatibility mode. What could that be?06:38
GudduShall i continue in UEFI mode as I don't really care about any other OS06:39
LuckyManTry BIOS Compatibility mode06:39
LuckyManIt's just the old way to manage your computer06:41
GudduOk. I selected Go Back06:41
GudduThen "Erase Disk and Install Ubuntu"06:41
LuckyManalso select third party software since it's the drivers if you need them06:43
LuckyManyou might need to change the mode in the computer BIOS to BIOS instead of UEFI, if that makes sense06:54
LuckyManbut just try what you are trying06:54
GudduLuckyMan, Now it got installed. I am at the login prompt now.06:56
LuckyManGood, you did it :-)06:57
GudduThere isn't a way to change to BIOS instead of UEFI in the options that I get upon pressing F106:57
LuckyMannever mind that, if you got login you are good to go06:58
GudduLuckyMan, I am using 16.10 as that was the DVD i had.06:59
GudduI will now try again with my USB may be?06:59
LuckyManOh lord... that's old06:59
LuckyManYes, try again06:59
LuckyMansame steps06:59
GudduVery sluggish despite such good hardware06:59
GudduLuckyMan, With the 2404 installer i never got that UEFI related warning though07:00
LuckyManbecause it probably tries to install in UEFI mode07:01
LuckyManbut this time your disk was really erased07:01
LuckyManso I wouldn't worry about wich mode you use07:02
LuckyManif you run into trouble try 22.04, it's still ok07:02
GudduLuckyMan, Weird that now its not even booting from that same USB Media. I am trying to sort that out first.07:05
LuckyManGuddu maybe your iso or media is currupted07:09
GudduLuckyMan, Just a while ago it worked though07:10
LuckyManit can be not ok and work anyway. Try Ventoy. It's simpler.07:11
LuckyManwith ventoy you just have to copy the iso to the USB media07:12
LuckyManand download the iso again07:12
LuckyManI have to go, good luck!07:12
GudduThanks luckyman. I will try it now.07:24
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=== TomTom_ is now known as TomTom
BluesKajHi all12:00
HiHoGoHi all several years ago in ubuntu I had an application that would allow me to rip cds to my computer to mp3 files. it also had option to connect to gracenote online to get album info. i am sure it was an app just for this purpose. anyone have any idea what it might have been. thanks for your help.12:31
CosmicDJHiHoGo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping12:33
HiHoGothanks CosmicDJ12:33
HiHoGohi all is there a way to make a system menu to access apps etc unity doesent have anything.12:45
lotuspsychj3HiHoGo: classicmenu-indicator does that12:45
lotuspsychj3!info classicmenu-incidator12:45
ubottuPackage classicmenu-incidator does not exist in noble12:45
HiHoGook do i need to get it from the repos12:45
HiHoGoi am on ubuntu 16.?? atm12:46
lotuspsychj3!info classicmenu-indicator12:46
ubottuclassicmenu-indicator (0.11-0ubuntu1, noble): indicator showing the main menu from GNOME Classic. In component universe, is optional. Built by classicmenu-indicator. Size 43 kB / 351 kB12:46
lotuspsychj3HiHoGo: 16.04 is eol by now12:47
HiHoGoyeah ok I understand.12:47
HiHoGoweird ubuntu doesent have a menu though.12:47
lotuspsychj3HiHoGo: clean install a supported version from this channels topic if you like12:47
HiHoGoyep i can do that just running to see. that si all.12:48
HiHoGogreat.12:48
vortexxHiHoGo: the menu is replaced by the app bar on the left of the screen + pressing the left windows key brings up a search system that allows you to search for apps not in the app bar12:50
HiHoGovery inconvenient i think that is why i stoped using ubuntu. too hard to find apps etc if they aren't in the app bar.12:52
HiHoGoi want a single place for all the installed stuff to find it. thats all12:52
|N3on21|is there a way to view my upload and download activity  in the menu bare as it is in Kali linux ?13:26
oxfuxxxwith gnome there must be a gnome-extension for that, but with ubuntu probably not, howevr things like conky can display that on your desktop.13:27
oxfuxxxwith vnstat also.13:28
|N3on21|ohh cool - let me look into that :) thanks13:28
vortexx|N3on21|: https://extensions.gnome.org/ has a bunch of extensions for network traffic indicators13:35
|N3on21|thx13:37
theoshihi13:49
theoswhats the name of the screenshot software that comes with 24.04?13:50
lotuspsychj3its built in gnome theos13:51
theoslotuspsychj3 so i cant install it on lubuntu?13:51
lotuspsychj3theos: no13:52
theosany screen recorder you suggest thats like it?13:53
lotuspsychj3lubuntu has one by default right?13:53
lotuspsychj3!info flameshot13:54
ubottuflameshot (12.1.0-2build2, noble): Powerful yet simple-to-use screenshot software. In component universe, is optional. Built by flameshot. Size 618 kB / 2,964 kB13:54
theosoh wait. i am still on ubuntu. just the DE is plasma. can i still run the built-in screenshot software?13:54
lotuspsychj3theos: in gnome, if you type screenshot in dash, it will come up13:56
lotuspsychj3or use prt scr button13:57
theosaha! flameshot is amazing. thanks. had it in 18.0413:57
lotuspsychj3!info kazaam14:04
ubottuPackage kazaam does not exist in noble14:04
lotuspsychj3!info kazam14:04
ubottukazam (1.4.5-6, noble): screencast and screenshot application created with design in mind. In component universe, is optional. Built by kazam. Size 741 kB / 1,692 kB14:04
DiagonAny way to get rid of the endless intel_powerclamp messages in dmesg?14:51
oerheks intel_powerclamp messages, they only appear when your CPU was overheating14:58
anshag2007hi15:32
anshag2007i needed some help15:32
anshag2007 i installed firefox through mozilla's ppa and15:32
anshag2007i get this warning everytime i run it15:32
rjwiiianshag2007: Ask15:32
anshag2007 W: : Signature by key 0AB215679C571D1C8325275B9BDB3D89CE49EC21 uses weak algorithm (rsa1024)15:33
anshag2007what should i do15:33
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anshag2007how do i ignore this warning15:34
anshag2007it also appears when i do apt update15:34
ravagehttps://discourse.mozilla.org/t/ubuntu-24-04-warns-about-weak-algorithm-for-mozillateam-ppa/13374915:37
anshag2007ok15:37
ravageso i would not use that PPA at all15:38
LuckyManuse the snap15:38
anshag2007so what should i do15:38
ravageuse the snap or the official repo on that link15:38
anshag2007ok15:38
anshag2007ty15:38
anshag2007how do i migrate15:39
anshag2007my current data15:39
anshag2007like my cookies and cache15:39
ravagethe snap should do that on first run15:39
anshag2007if its possible15:39
anshag2007no like15:39
anshag2007my logged in apps15:39
anshag2007i dont want to log in again15:39
anshag2007is that even possible15:39
oerhekslog in to sync back ?15:40
ravagealso the snap migrates your firefox config on the first run i think15:40
anshag2007hey cant i just use flatpak15:40
oerheksunreasonable not to login. even with flatpak15:40
ravagewhy do you want to add another package source?15:40
ravagesnap already exists on your system15:41
anshag2007because i dont want to use snap15:41
LuckyManwhy not?15:41
anshag2007i do have flatpak on here15:41
ravageyou can use whatever you like.15:41
anshag2007uhh because ive only heard badthings about it15:41
ravageit is not supported by Ubuntu15:41
anshag2007oh15:41
anshag2007ok15:41
anshag2007look im a total beginnet15:41
anshag2007beginner15:41
anshag2007not even a month since i switched to linux15:42
anshag2007because this laptop is super slow15:42
ravageand you already installed a PPA?15:42
ravagewhy?15:42
LuckyMansnaps are ok15:42
ravageyour ubuntu came with the firefox snap15:42
oerheksso the large ubuntu community supports snap, but you have a reason not to use it.15:42
anshag2007im using xubuntu but its an official flavour right15:42
ravageit is15:42
anshag2007yea so i got the minimal version because previously i was on mint cinnamon15:43
LuckyMandon't install PPA's it messes your system15:43
anshag2007how do you reply to messages in irc15:43
anshag2007ok15:43
oerheksLuckyMan, not true, the ppa's are just in transition to that 2096 key15:43
oerheksor 409615:44
anshag2007so do i go back to the snap version of firefox?15:44
oerheksbut it is like snap flatpak and appimage; trust the maintainer15:44
anshag2007cant i just ignore the warning somehow15:45
gordonjcpanshag2007: snap is the standard15:45
anshag2007i dont wanna migrate again15:45
anshag2007okay...15:45
gordonjcpthere are downsides to snap, which you will never in practice encounter15:46
anshag2007idk honestly my source of info is random articles on the internet this is my first time on irc15:46
gordonjcpmost of the people going "ZOMG SNAP BAD!!!!111!!!!" are just people who don't really understand the implications repeating things they've half-understood15:46
anshag2007ive heard snap takes more resources15:46
gordonjcpthere's also one very very very important security consideration, that you must not lose sight of15:46
gordonjcpno-one cares about you15:47
anshag2007is that true15:47
anshag2007huh?15:47
gordonjcpanshag2007: yes,-ish15:47
oerheksthe more pages you open, the more resources you use15:47
gordonjcpanshag2007: no-one thinks you're worth the effort to break into15:47
oerhekslolz15:47
gordonjcpanshag2007: so it's all a bit theoretical15:47
oerheksfud15:48
LuckyMana snap is a container so everything you need to run the app is inside the snap.15:48
anshag2007okay15:48
gordonjcpanshag2007: your threat model comes down to two things - you're either up against Mossad or Not-Mossad15:48
anshag2007well then i will just go back to the snap version of firefox i guess15:48
gordonjcpanshag2007: if your problem today is Mossad, you're already screwed, you were hours ago15:48
gordonjcpyou didn't even know it15:48
anshag2007mossad?15:48
oerheksplease, no politics, thanks.15:49
anshag2007ig im the youngest guy here15:49
gordonjcpif your problem today is Not-Mossad, then basic information hygiene like not using the same password for Office 365 as you use for dodgysketchypornsite.ru will probably be adequate15:49
oerheksgordonjcp, lets not.15:49
gordonjcpanshag2007: you just need to keep it basic15:49
anshag2007what is he even talking about15:49
anshag2007ok15:50
anshag2007i will15:50
oerhekssnap install firefox15:50
anshag2007and like my logins in this version?15:50
anshag2007like ive logged into google and stuff15:50
anshag2007cant i imigrate them15:50
gordonjcpanshag2007: just install firefox through the snaps, you might also find if you've blown away the "snaps" directory in your homedir you need to install something like firefox-desktop-integrations15:50
gordonjcpanshag2007: if you install the snap, it ought to be smart enough to detect that15:50
oerhekssure you can migrate them.15:50
anshag2007yea ive deleted the snaps directly15:51
anshag2007directory*15:51
gordonjcpanshag2007: yeah, that makes a mess, there's something to do with desktop integrations you need to reinstall too15:51
oerhekssounds more like you run linux mint...15:51
anshag2007dude i shouldnt have done this stuff honestly15:51
anshag2007i just wasted my time15:51
gordonjcpanshag2007: "snapd-desktop-integration" I think?15:51
anshag2007no15:51
anshag2007i used to15:51
anshag2007i switched to xubuntu because i just didnt like mint xfce15:51
anshag2007and i wanted xfce for thispotato15:51
anshag2007ok let me do those commands15:52
gordonjcpI thought Mint used MATE15:52
gordonjcpwhich is like Gnome 215:52
anshag2007it has an xfce version15:52
anshag2007but it was odd15:52
anshag2007like sluggish15:52
anshag2007and it had slowdowns15:52
anshag2007so do i just do snap install snapd-desktop-integrations?15:53
anshag2007so is this my cue to stop visiting sites on the internet to take help about linux15:55
gordonjcpanshag2007: yes15:55
gordonjcpanshag2007: the defaults that come with it are generally sensible15:55
anshag2007okay ill keep that in mind15:55
LuckyManjust do two things: 1) delete your PPA 2) sudo snap install firefox15:55
anshag2007ok15:56
gordonjcpalso don't be afraid to just blow it all away and reinstall15:56
gordonjcpyou keep backups, right?15:56
anshag2007yep15:57
anshag2007timeshift15:57
anshag2007gordon how is the color of your name changing15:57
LuckyManprobably the color changed because he used your nick on the sentence15:58
gordonjcpanshag2007: if I type something with your name at the start, it'll be highlighted to show I'm talking to you15:58
LuckyManlike this anshag200715:59
anshag2007oh15:59
anshag2007damn15:59
gordonjcpanshag2007: type "gor<TAB>" and it ough to autocomplete my nick, and add a colon at the end15:59
anshag2007thats cool15:59
anshag2007gordonjcp: hi15:59
anshag2007oohh15:59
gordonjcpor type Luck<tab>15:59
gordonjcpanshag2007: yay!15:59
anshag2007this is like discord but i believe this tech existed since the 90s15:59
gordonjcpanshag2007: yeah, mid-90s15:59
gordonjcpI was around for that15:59
* gordonjcp is terribly old15:59
LuckyManthis is way better than discord, but this is offtopic15:59
anshag2007Luckyyoooo15:59
anshag2007huh15:59
gordonjcpyeah very offtopic16:00
anshag2007okay..16:00
anshag2007i mean im too young to know this stuff ig16:00
gordonjcpanshag2007: but hey, you learned a bunch of new things today, which is that's what it's all about eh?16:00
anshag2007the snap firefox is installing btw16:00
anshag2007yea true16:00
anshag2007i deleted my snap apps, reinstalled them through their deb couterparts, then reinstalled snap, reinstalled ppa firefox and now im going back to snap packages16:01
anshag2007all of it is a part of the process i guess16:01
anshag2007actually im just dumb16:01
anshag2007i like to overcomplicate things16:01
LuckyManyou can keep the debs, no worries16:01
LuckyManI use .deb, snap, flatpak and appImage. Just no PPA's16:02
anshag2007hey gordon16:02
anshag2007how old are you16:02
anshag2007'***gordonjcp is terribly old'16:03
anshag2007ok16:03
LuckyMantry /me thinks ubuntu is fun16:03
anshag2007y'all are kind of intimidating lol honestly16:03
* anshag2007 thinks ubuntu is fun16:04
anshag2007wow16:04
anshag2007this place is nice16:04
anshag2007ok it installed16:05
anshag2007so i have two firefox now16:06
unkleboneheadGood morning or time appropriate greetings.16:06
anshag2007and it just seamlessly migrated?16:06
aienawhat migrated?16:06
anshag2007hi good morning16:06
anshag2007the data16:06
anshag2007firefox config16:06
anshag2007how do i delete the ppa version16:06
anshag2007hey i also installed fastfetch through ppa should i delete that too16:07
oerheksweird, your ppa gave an error about keys, so it never installed firefox?16:08
anshag2007it did16:08
anshag2007it was a warning in the terminal and an error dialouge at startup16:08
anshag2007but it did launch firefox16:08
anshag2007ok how do i uninstall it16:08
anshag2007the ppa version16:09
LuckyMansudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:name/here16:09
anshag2007so should i remove my fastfetch too16:09
anshag2007its ppa aswell16:09
LuckyManit's your choice. If things go bad, it's probably because of PPA's16:10
anshag2007whats the name/here for firefox16:10
anshag2007how do i know that16:10
oerhekssome have strong opinions.16:10
LuckyMananshag2007, you can search history on your terminal and see what command you used16:11
anshag2007ok16:12
LuckyManjust use the up arrow key16:12
anshag2007i also did this command off of a tutorial16:12
anshag2007 echo 'Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins:: "LP-PPA-mozillateam:${distro_codename}";' | sudo tee /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/51unattended-upgrades-firefox16:13
anshag2007is this smth bad16:13
anshag2007it was to enable auto updates igz?16:13
anshag2007ig?*16:13
Infrared_anshag2007: What was it you were trying to do in the first place? When you installed/made all these changes, that is16:13
anshag2007i just read off of the internet that snap is bad16:14
anshag2007idk16:14
anshag2007and i wanted non snap counterparts of my apps16:14
anshag2007but then i had to reenable snap anyways because livepatch wouldnt work16:14
rboxso you read somethign and just accepted it as fact without understading why in the first place/16:15
rbox?16:15
anshag2007it was on itsfoss16:15
anshag2007it seems to be a reputable website16:15
rboxoh, well if it was on some rando mwebsite...16:15
rboxit must be fact16:15
oerheksjust do a fresh install.16:15
anshag2007its not like that i mean that website seems credible16:15
anshag2007hey its not that bad16:15
anshag2007its fine16:15
Infrared_anshag2007: You installed a bunch of random PPAs rather than just pull in updates as per usual though, I'm just trying to get why you would do that to begin with :) Nothing that you've done is actually necessary to get Firefox updates.16:15
anshag2007just this ppa thing16:16
anshag2007just a single ppa16:16
anshag2007i did what i assumed was right16:16
anshag2007i dunno16:16
anshag2007im dumb16:16
rboxjust dont read one page and blindly follwo it without undrestand anyting about i t16:17
rboxyou'll be fine16:17
anshag2007well okay right now im removing the mfirefox ppa ig everything else is fine16:18
anshag2007wait it didnt get removed16:19
anshag2007the command luckyman gave didnt work ig16:19
anshag2007its still there16:19
rboxwhat the hell is 'ig'16:19
anshag2007oh i guess im too young to be here16:19
anshag2007ig is short for i guess16:19
rboxwe already know you're guessing...16:19
Infrared_anshag2007: The smart thing to do at this stage honestly, would be to do a clean install and follow the instructinos the installer gives you :) Following them from different websites has gotten things so tangled up that it's impossible to effectively debug anything16:20
anshag2007yea...16:20
anshag2007well dude this is like my third or fourth os install16:20
rboxyou'll figure it out eventually16:20
anshag2007ive switched them so many times and reinstalled and things16:20
rboxits easy to install though16:20
anshag2007im honestly tired16:20
anshag2007well okay16:21
ioriaanshag2007, is that you ? https://github.com/AnshAg2007/AnshAg2007 'cause it does not seem a 'total beginner'16:21
anshag2007ill do it16:21
anshag2007yes16:21
anshag2007thats me16:21
anshag2007that was me16:21
anshag2007when i was into coding16:21
anshag2007now ive become a total sloth16:21
anshag2007see i knew a lot about linux16:22
anshag2007but you can say that16:22
anshag2007i forgot16:22
LuckyMananshag2007, you have to sudo apt remove firefox16:23
Infrared_anshag2007: You knew enough to break your system to an extent that I've never seen before, a reinstall should be easy :) You just skip the dozen or so steps that it took to get you there in the first place16:23
anshag2007hey its not broken honestly16:23
anshag2007its just a ppa16:23
anshag2007im doing what luckyman says16:24
anshag2007LuckyMan the command worked16:24
anshag2007the ppa version isnt there now16:24
anshag2007everything is fine it seems16:25
LuckyMananshag2007, on another day, just do a clean install. It's easy and you don't get things messed up16:25
anshag2007well i will do that16:25
anshag2007if i mess more things up16:25
anshag2007:')16:25
LuckyManright now carry on, break the system it's good if you don't make errors you don't learn16:26
anshag2007okee16:26
anshag2007thanks a lot y'all16:26
anshag2007today was a big day16:26
anshag2007bye16:26
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monty_hallI'm running windows in qmu.  Right now it's using NAT.  I'd like to create a bridge that uses my wifi card.  Using network manager gui it only shows my ethernet card.  After some googling it sounds like you can't bridge wifi.  Is this true?16:41
rboxyes16:42
rboxvirtualbox has some awful hacky stuff to make it sort of work16:42
GudduAfter installing ubuntu server on a machine if i do sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop then will it change to ubuntu desktop or retain the server characteristics with just the desktop enabled?16:59
GudduOr will it become the same as if I had installed ubuntu desktop to start with?17:00
rboxwhat is "server characteristics"17:00
Guddurbox, Like all the binaries/apps etc installed by ubuntu server iso?17:01
rboxwell when you do the apt, it'll tell yo uwhat its going to install or remove17:02
oerheksadding a desktop does not change services setup on a server.17:09
ioriaGuddu, mind network-manager ; it will became default17:38
GrandPa-GI need help getting my mqtt web page talking to my mosquito broker. I know the broker works with a local python program. I know the web page will work with a remote web site. I just can't get it to work with the local site. The web page is hosted on the same system as the broker via apache.19:50
GrandPa-GThis is the mosquitto conf file https://pastebin.com/5TQGrnt719:52
GrandPa-GThis is the web page https://pastebin.com/L7e5pMjK19:53
hwpplayer1I can't visit the last link19:54
GrandPa-GThe error it gets on connect is mqttws31.js:916 WebSocket connection to 'ws://localhost:9000/mqtt' failed:19:54
hwpplayer1also the other19:54
GrandPa-Gboth come up file for me. There are no restrictions on them19:55
GrandPa-Gfile->fine19:56
hwpplayer1please upload your files on another service like termbin.com or 0x0.st19:57
GrandPa-Gwhy? termbin.com has no place to enter anything, just an explanation page. I will look at the other one.20:07
GrandPa-Gmosquitto.con https://bpa.st/Z4PA20:08
GrandPa-Gweb page https://bpa.st/CZFQ20:09
vsprhello21:44
oerheks:-)21:44
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