=== chris14_ is now known as chris14 === docmax is now known as Guest6504 === docmax_ is now known as docmax === diceLibrarian2 is now known as liceDibrarian [05:55] why gnome-shell eats 40% CPU? [06:00] hi [06:24] does ubuntu 24.04 with gnome do quarter-window tiling? [06:25] I wish [06:25] most of the extensions I tried were not very usable for me either [06:27] actually, I just found the extension. It does seem to work for me. [06:28] which extension? [06:28] it's called 'Ubuntu Tiling Assistant' and it was already present under System Extensions section [06:51] aaa [06:51] aaa [07:03] aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [07:11] im on xubuntu and somehow the system often forgets shortcuts, most often "Super+Right" for "tile window to the right" but also others. when i reassign them, they keep working for a while until they are not. [07:17] hi [07:40] hi, I've been using Ubuntu for about 6 months now as a starter for learning about Linux. On my Desktop on root, I had a number of text files on desktop and a bunch of stuff in my "todo" app...however, logging back into root after a while I noticed everything is gone. I had not done anything to delete these things, so I'm bewildered what happened to [07:40] them. The only thing I can think of is that I was playing around with Log files and learning how to unzip and rezip or delete, them, but don't think this should be related to my app data...anyone had similar issues? [07:47] noob15: "on root" what does that mean? [07:47] you will have to clarify further what you think you have done. Ubuntu disables root account by default. [07:49] Hey guys, I thought "root" was just the main account created when first signed in [07:49] I have root privelgages when running sudo etc... [07:49] but have created other "users" [07:49] no [07:50] so nothing in /home/nameofuser/Desktop ? [07:50] I have no idea what I have done, or why stuff has disappeared [07:50] if you type "whoami" in a terminal [07:50] what do you get [07:51] comph - I used to have folders on the GUI but now they are not there [07:51] your user has privilege to run root command with sudo but this isn't a root user. [07:51] that username should have a directory in /home/username [07:51] comph I'll try whoami now [07:52] sixwheeledbeast I have been reading Running Linux and it said that about Root - I just assumed the main account was root. Will have to look more into this. [07:52] the account you initially create usually belongs to the sudo group [07:53] so it will have root privileges if you type sudo before any command [07:53] have you logged in as the wrong user? Ubuntu does root accounts a little different they are disabled and you use sudo instead. [07:53] comph I tried whoami...and it just gives me my user name [07:53] if you go to a terminal, write "cd /home/username" [07:53] then "ls" [07:53] or "cd Desktop" you should see your Desktop directory [07:54] sixwheeledbeast yes, sure I'm in the right user account, because I used this for 5 months before experimenting with "add user" [07:54] you can do a "ls" there and probably see the files [07:54] in home you can see all the users [07:54] "cd /home/" then "ls" [07:55] comph I did a ls in Desktop and there is nothing in there [07:55] I can only assume you have switched to the wrong user or the data has been removed or moved. [07:56] why doesn't netplan do shit? [07:56] it doesn't activate, it doesn't generate, is it broken? [07:56] sixwheeledbeast man...I dunno..that really sucks. I know computers only do what you tell them to do, but I'm really scratching my head here. Like I said, I'm using this as a learner account, but still had a bunch of stuff to help me learn that I'd saved, so it's not end of the world, just confusing / annoying [07:58] You may have accidentally removed them when messing with users. Anything important you should have a copy of. [07:58] have you checked the trashbin? [07:59] If you know the exact file name you could maybe search the whole system, but I suspect you have accidentally deleted it [07:59] you could see if there are other user accounts created if you "ls" in the "home" directory [07:59] "ls /home/" [07:59] comph Yup, there are 3 other users - all which I created recently [08:00] ok then you can go into them and ls their Desktop [08:00] sixwheeledbeast it was mainly stuff in my "todo" list - you know the default app that comes with Ubuntu ? I had a bunch of to dos in there and they all disappeared [08:00] if you have deleted files with rm [08:00] comph but I know it was within this user that I had stuff that isn't there [08:00] there's no trash bin [08:01] okay [08:01] you can maybe try some recovery app [08:01] So it was data that was inside an app that has disappeared which is weird [08:02] comph sixwheeledbeast do you guys use Ubuntu as your daily driver / main computer? [08:02] yes [08:02] comph any recommendations on recovery app [08:02] I don't use this app so no idea where it's user files would be [08:03] Also comph how long have you been using Ubuntu as your daily driver? Have you found it to be reliable? Why do you use over Mac for example? [08:03] sixwheeledbeast okay, thanks [08:03] I have used some flavour of ubuntu for 15 years, currently ubuntu-mate [08:04] i've used it for 10-15 years off and on [08:04] i think it works well and is a easy to use linux distribution [08:04] many things just works out of the box [08:05] sixwheeledbeast comph thanks - why do you continue to use it over the likes of Macos? And are there any other flavours of Linux Distro you like particularly? [08:05] compared to other linux distros which you might need to configure more [08:05] i'm not a mac user [08:05] comph gotcha [08:10] comph on the root question - if I cd .. out as far as I can go and get the bin, home, user etc files, isn't this [08:10] "root"? [08:11] Ubuntu MATE I prefer the classic gnome2 workflow. You should check these other users for your data. I still don't understand how you would have files on the desktop if you used "an app", programs usually have there own space for user data. [08:11] root of the directory [08:11] not root user [08:12] sixwheeledbeast I had some text files just saved to Desktop + I had data that was in todo app just disappear...I was wondering if stuff auto deletes if I log out of user,but that doesn't make sense [08:12] sixwheeledbeast root of the directory..hmmm...so, there's no way to access root in Ubuntu? Not that I want to - just curious. [08:17] there is also /root to confuse you further... it's disabled in Ubuntu you can un-disable it but it's highly not recommended. other distros will often let you run as the root user with a password. [08:20] jajajajajaja [08:21] noob15: "/" is the root filesystem or root directory, see man hier [08:21] hmmm...confusing [08:23] noob15: still having a terminal open? try running sudo ls /home/*/Desktop do you see your files there? [08:25] On solaris they avoid that confusion by simply making root's homedir / instead of /root [08:26] / is the moint point, which points to /root i think [08:26] / /root is the system [08:27] /root* [08:27] CosmicDJ this just gives me a list of all users [08:28] For context on root - if I go to switch user, on the main interface where I have all my users, all of them have a coloured circle with the user's initials, but the main one I thought was Root, is the outline of a person [08:29] Dunno if this changes anything [08:30] comph: /root is the home directory for the user root [08:31] comph: man hier [08:31] ah [08:31] You have to go out of your way to enable the ability to log in as root, so the user you thought were root is probably just your main user that happens to have admin-priviledges allowing it to run commands as other users with sudo [08:32] I need help for my virtualbox system. I use the virtualbox for a few years but since yesterday it interruptet while the windows boot with the message serious defect. I don't know whats to do [08:34] noob15: I'm guessing you've accidentally wiped your homedir by accident, running some rm command with -rf on the wrong dir. [08:36] noob15: if you open a terminal and run find ~ -type f -print does it list any files you recognize? [08:38] Thanks geirha that makes sense [08:39] is it expected that ubuntu 24.04 desktop notifications have no icons? [08:40] if anyone could point me to what changed there, I'd appreciate it [08:40] geirha that find print command lists literally hundreds of files lol [08:40] Flicking thru, there's a lot of names I recognize like Firefox and Brave files etc [08:45] why doesn't netplan do shit? [08:46] skdsk: netplan is doing "shit" here === chris14_ is now known as chris14 === floown_ is now known as floown === mrbutthead5 is now known as mrbutthead [10:03] I've tried to fix out of date build and now face some difficulties [10:03] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [10:03]  libgegl-0.4-0t64 : Breaks: libgegl-0.4-0 (< 1:0.4.48-0build2~ubuntu2204) but 1:0.4.46-0build2~ubuntu2204 is to be installed [10:03] tried some purge variants but still stuck, kindly advise :) [10:04] how can I access application files thru terminal from the current /home/user? [10:15] hi anybody remembers me? [10:15] im the guy who messed up my xubuntu yesterday [10:16] well ive did clean install as i was instructed and ive also removed the dualboot im only running linux now [10:16] but there is screen tearing [10:17] it was there in my previous install too but a guy called diogeness fixed it for me [10:17] looks like ill have to do it again [10:17] is it safe to follow this guide for it? https://techstop.github.io/fix-screen-tearing-xfce/ [10:18] its similar to what i did previously but im not sure [10:20] anshag2007: seems reasonable [10:20] hi gordon [10:20] okay [10:20] ill do it [10:21] I find tearing really annoying because my monitors can only run at 60Hz and I want them to run at 50Hz [10:21] anshag2007: not all of that is related to your system, you have to know to cherry pick. [10:21] oh youre here too [10:21] idk if you remember me [10:21] but i was rocksaltprism [10:22] on #xubuntu [10:22] yes i remember you. [10:22] i messed up my system more and folks told me to reinstall [10:22] so i did [10:22] and now ive to fix this issue again [10:22] why? it shouldn't have happened again. [10:23] it did [10:23] i did a clean install [10:23] i messed up my snap and installed some PPA's [10:23] so today i removed my dualboot too [10:23] its all linux only [10:23] dualboot is great, until it isn't [10:24] one of my laptops quad-boots [10:24] yeah that's wrong to install random PPAs is asking for troubles, ok let's get some info. [10:24] it's a maintenance nightmare, it just has failure written all over it [10:24] well actually the reason i had dualboot because i wasnt so sure about linux [10:24] and not all my apps worked here [10:24] Ubuntu, Haiku, NetBSD, and OpenIndiana [10:25] but now i mostly find myself surfing the web [10:25] so i got rid of windows [10:25] they all have this mental wee turf war over the boot sector [10:25] lmao [10:25] "Hey NetBSD that's a nice little bootblock you've got there, shame if anything happened to it" [10:26] lol (pretends to understand) [10:26] also i tried manjaro and endaevour today aswell [10:26] manjaro is hated for some reason so i didnt finalise it and [10:27] endaevour just didnt boot [10:27] i thought maybe i could find something to top xubuntu [10:27] i didnt [10:29] weird [10:29] so i was following the guide and [10:29] i cd'd to /usr/share/x11/xorg.conf.d [10:29] and there is a config file for every vendor but intel [10:29] how come [10:30] anshag2007: run is terminal: dpkg -l | grep -i intel | nc termbin.com 9999 [10:30] share the url. [10:30] ok [10:31] https://termbin.com/2o2s [10:32] now do: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d | grep intel [10:32] and just tell me if you get something or nothing [10:32] nothing [10:33] sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf [10:33] https://paste.gnome.org/ZBmXPncww [10:33] ok [10:33] paste the content of the above url in there. [10:34] after that hit Ctrl+s and Ctrl+x [10:34] reboot now? [10:34] first check this out [10:34] cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf [10:35] and see if what you get in terminal matcher the url. [10:35] it does [10:35] ok reboot now. [10:35] also can i ask u smth [10:35] you can ask anything. [10:36] whats the differnece between 20-intel.conf and 10-intel.conf? [10:36] the guide has a file called 10-intel.conf [10:36] no difference, just one will run earlier than the oher one. [10:36] oh [10:36] thanks a lot again [10:37] ill reboot now [10:41] hi [10:41] i rebooted [10:41] the tearing is gone i believe [10:41] but [10:41] i got some error message at startup [10:42] i got this for the first2-3 times in my previous xubuntu install too [10:42] how do i attach images [10:42] !pastebin [10:42] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://bpa.st | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [10:43] ok [10:45] here [10:45] https://imgur.com/a/MV5NO3f [10:45] happened before too in my xubuntu minimal [10:45] but it went away after 2-3 reboots [10:45] still not taking risks again [10:47] run in terminal: sudo dmesg | grep -i firmware | nc termbin.com 9999 [10:47] ok [10:48] https://termbin.com/cyc4 [10:48] here [10:50] ok as long as everything works (video, sound, wifi, touchpad, microphone, webcam) you have nothing to worry about, just ignore the error messages. [10:53] sorry i got disconnected [10:53] so is that error serious or what [10:53] i wrote that as long as everything works (video, sound, wifi, touchpad, microphone, webcam) you have nothing to worry about, just ignore the error messages. [10:54] ok [10:54] thanks again [10:54] gtg [10:54] you're welcome. [11:21] hi [11:22] hellouuuu [11:22] what's up? [11:23] someone alive? [11:29] is there a way to clear dock app notification counter once that app is in focus? [11:37] Hi all [12:33] to my previous question, is some one succeeded to install gimp v 3? === PasiZ1 is now known as PasiZ [12:37] There is no version 3 yet [12:37] snaps give 2.99 from feb 22 https://snapcraft.io/gimp [12:39] Mateusz Łukasik did a ppa build few hours ago ..https://launchpad.net/~mati75/+archive/ubuntu/gimp30?field.series_filter=noble [12:39] Even that is 2.99.18-1~bpo24.04+2 [12:40] There is just not release of a version 3 yet [12:40] oops, my bad [12:40] flathub gives 2.10 [12:41] oh it is not even out yet? [12:41] lolz [12:41] Correct [12:42] j@j-MacBookPro:~/.config/GIMP$ gimp --version [12:42] GNU Image Manipulation Program version 2.99.18 [12:43] hi [12:43] so i had another doubt [12:45] whenever i reboot, there is a single underscore (like in terminal) that is there for a long time before it actually starts booting into xubuntu, it was there when i used windows too but it only appeared for a split second, but now it is there for like 10 seconds before it starts booting into xubuntu [12:45] any way to remove or reduce its time === benbristow3 is now known as benbristow [12:46] i see no way speeding up booting. [12:47] you must have the same experience on your other installs. [12:47] no [12:47] when i used xubuntu minimal, it didnt happen for THAT long either [12:47] i had dualboot back then [12:47] now i just removed windows [12:48] maybe its grub still trying to dualboot? [12:48] idk [12:48] but yea it wasnt always like this [12:49] nope, no idea. [12:50] let me update grub maybe [12:50] and then try again [12:55] hi [13:50] The cruise liner Queen Elizabeth II moves only six inches for each gallon of diesel that it burns. [13:50] wrong channel :P [13:50] oops [14:00] What happens when a ntfs drive is connected to a ubuntu server? I can see in dmesg that it was recognized as sdb attached SCSI disk but should it automount itself? Or how can i see it in the file browser? [14:01] Guddu: it will not automount [14:01] Guddu: what "file browser" do you have on ubuntu server? [14:01] leftyfb, Its a new installl...So the one that comes by default. [14:02] Guddu: there is no file browser installed by default on ubuntu server [14:02] leftyfb, I just googled. Should nautilus be a good choice? [14:03] leftyfb, On the left hand menu there is a files icon. I thought that was the default file browser. [14:03] Guddu: if you have a graphical environment, that's not ubuntu server [14:03] leftyfb, Basically i installed ubuntu server and over that I installed ubuntu-desktop to get a gui [14:03] why? [14:04] leftyfb, I wanted the ease of a GUI. I will ofcourse use cli for whatever I can do over cli. [14:04] including ssh to this server. [14:04] you should have just installed the ubuntu desktop flavor if you wanted ubuntu desktop [14:05] leftyfb, I agree. Do you suggest I reinstall? [14:05] Guddu: and if you ask me, there is zero advantage and countless disadvantages to running a GUI on something that's considered a server [14:06] I thought it was ok. I did a sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop after installing ubuntu server. I clearly have messed up. [14:07] Guddu: what is this machine going to be used for exactly? [14:08] leftyfb, Copy operations from a master disk to various recipient disks. All external drives. Formatting of disks using mkfs etc [14:09] Guddu: automated or manual operations? [14:09] So i will connect a source disk (ntfs) copy its content to local drive and from there copy it over to around 40-50 disks to explain it a bit more. It will be manual as I still have not figured out how to automate it. [14:10] if manual, use the default desktop OS. If automated, use a server with no GUI [14:10] it still will not automount, on desktop. recognized yes. [14:11] it will automount on the ubuntu desktop OS .... as long as the filesystem is clean [14:12] leftyfb, Desktop will still allow me to ssh and all right? And install libraries that are otherwise part of server package if needed? [14:12] yes [14:14] Guddu: also, it sounds like you should look into clonezilla (the OS) [14:14] OK. I will install Desktop instead now. I hope my ubuntu pro free quota will not get wasted when I do that. Does it consider that the install is on same machine? [14:15] leftyfb, Clonezilla definitely is worth looking it. I used it earlier with live CD. Never installed it as such. [14:17] Just unattach your token before you reinstall [14:18] ravage, Thanks. === Randy_ is now known as coderandy [14:39] hi, is there some technicality why fedora doesn't include lxd? fedora 40 has lxc 6.0.1 [14:40] Please ask fedora support for that [14:40] all i got from #fedora was it's not included [14:41] is it because it's a snap in ubuntu? [14:43] ah https://snapcraft.io/docs/installing-snap-on-fedora [14:45] andersjorg: I guess it's because they have podman [14:46] :P [14:47] podman can't run vms and it's a single host solution [14:47] also podman doesn't run system containers by default, just like docker [14:47] Fedora may support Incus. But please use their support channels [14:48] This is Ubuntu support [14:48] sir, no chat here [14:48] :3 [14:49] I am installing the latest and the greatest ubuntu desktop now. [14:55] Does anyone work with mosquitto mqtt over websockets here? I am getting invalid creds when I know they are valid. === floown_ is now known as floown [15:21] trying to execute python with gimp, receiving error ImportError: cannot import name Gimp, introspection typelib not found [15:21] gimp 2.10, any clues? [15:21] how is gimp installed? deb or snap package? [15:27] In linux systems if i format a disk using mkfs once then when i copy large data sets (400 gb and beyond) and then when i need to remove the old data to copy a new one then is it recommended to format again or just delete using rm -rf and copying the new content is enough? [15:29] up to you [15:32] oerheks, deb [15:33] Yakov, and what command executed? [15:34]    sudo apt-get download gimp gimp-data gimp-plugin-registry [15:34]    sudo dpkg -i gimp*.deb gimp-data*.deb gimp-plugin-registry*.deb [15:35] tested with this gimp -i -b '(python-fu-eval "print(\"Python is working!\")")' -b '(gimp-quit 0)' and with python3 terminal 'from gi.repository import Gimp [15:35] print(Gimp)' [15:36] Guddu: that question seems predisposed on an idea that removing files is somehow not enough. not sure what you propose the issue would be [15:37] ananke, Like fragmentation, file corruption etc [15:38] https://justpaste.it/erv95 [15:39] In a different problem, I am trying to do a mkfs.ext2 on a disk. I get an error "Permission Denied while trying to determine the file system size". So i execute the command using sudo and it works fine but then I am not able to rsync to the disk as it is now owned by root. What is the best way to get around this? [15:39] Guddu: fragmentation wouldn't be an issue. 'file corruption' is a curious one, what makes you anticipate that? [15:39] ananke, These are huge files and even if 1 bit is off the contents won't be read by the destination system. May be I am being overly suspicious. [15:39] chown the root directory of your new filesystem to be owned by said user. also, why ext2? that's a poor choice for most workloads [15:40] Guddu: your suspicion doesn't seem to be based in reality [15:41] Guddu: why ext2? [15:43] ananke, leftyfb The Digital cinema spec requires it to be in ext2 (with a inode size of 128) or ext3 and i have heard that ext3 has issues on some cinema servers. [15:44] ext4 won't work? [15:45] leftyfb, No. [15:45] I am trying to find the latest spec on this. [15:45] if requirement is ext2, them ext4 certainly won't work [15:47] "o EXT2, EXT3 – inode size set to 128 bytes" [15:48] seems ext3 is an option, unless you're working with some older version [15:49] ananke, I am leaning to bet on ext3 [15:49] But I am not sure if even for ext3 they require inode size of 128 [15:50] Oh. For ext3 the default inode size is 128 itself as i can see. [15:50] there is no redeeming value to ext2, if ext3 is an option [15:52] ananke, Also the chown should be on the mount point right? [15:53] Guddu: yes. the mount point would be the root path for that fs [15:55] all i find that gimp 2.99 breaks something with Gegl 0.4 https://developer.gimp.org/core/debug/problems_and_solutions/#building-development-gimp-299-breaks-for-missing-dependency-gegl-04-gt-04xx [15:56] and the document I quoted is https://hpaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Deluxe_Source-and-DCP_Delivery_Specifications_v5-11_20220314-2.pdf [16:09] Hi! [16:09] Does anyone here has trouble visiting packages.ubuntu.com ? [16:09] Sometimes I get 500 error. [16:09] Is this to be expected? [16:10] My connection works just fine otherwise. [16:10] works here, and i see no issues https://status.canonical.com/ [16:10] Response time is slow. [16:11] It's still working to open https://packages.ubuntu.com/noble/unity [16:13] a little slower, but oke === pedahzur_ is now known as pedahzur [16:13] Are those statistics based on pings? [16:14] How fast it responds and how many packets that are lost. [16:15] not sure, maybe you might want to reask in #launchpad [16:21] gparted is taking forever to write the inode tables. [16:22] 4352/7453 done and increases by 1 every 20 odd seconds. [16:27] Hello folks. I'm trying to install Ubuntu 20.04 on a headless box over serial console and the installer is crashing constantly. Here's a screen cap of what it looks like: https://youtu.be/AAXYUiATxbE [16:28] Does anyone know why this might be happening? [16:28] huslage: why 20.04? [16:28] A vendor requested it. The installer does the same with 24.04 as well. [16:36] @leftyfb any ideas of how to debug this? [16:38] Jul 29 18:35:43 ubuntu-server subiquity.subiquity-server[2375]: BlockingIOError: [Errno 11] Resource temporarily unavailable [16:38] Jul 29 18:35:43 ubuntu-server subiquity.subiquity-server[2375]: Exception ignored when trying to write to the signal wakeup fd: [16:38] also getting this error in the syslog === Rahoul143 is now known as Rahoul14 [16:47] having an ubuntu problem today [16:47] hoping someone here is talented enough to help fix it [16:48] ask wait and see [16:50] Is there any way to have a desktop area larger than the monitor (viewport), with the ability to move the viewport? [16:56] webchat19, on gnome, hold windows key, right click, move workspace right, a virtual desktop page, alt tab can be used to cycle between them [16:57] https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/shell-workspaces.html.en https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/shell-workspaces-switch.html.en [17:10] The only way I am able to install LTSpice on Ubuntu is as sudo, whereas with other sane OSes I can do this as a regular user. [17:10] bondking: lets not [17:11] bondking: contact the vendor for support with their software === tds4 is now known as tds [17:11] also looks to me like they don't support linux anymore [17:12] LTSpice is a wine thingy? [17:12] looks like their unsupported download for linux is an .exe, so yes [17:12] https://github.com/joaocarvalhoopen/LTSpice_on_Linux_Ubuntu__How_to_install_and_use [17:15] oerheks, thank you. I don't want workspaces, though. I want to, for example, be able to move my monitor's viewport partway between two "workspaces", similar to how one might scroll a webpage. [17:15] If there is a name for this type of interface that I can try to look up, that would also be helpful. [17:15] i dont think that is possible. [17:17] oerheks, is it impossible because of a certain limitation (of gnome), or is it just not supported by the default install? [17:19] i find no gnome plugin that helps, and AFAIK you are the first one with that request [17:19] It is not supported by the default install [17:55] Yeah, so anyway. You can't install LTSpice as a normal user in Ubuntu [17:55] But you can do that with most other distros. [17:55] So I'm wondering why in Ubuntu you can't. [17:56] bondking: contact the vendor for support with their software [17:56] no u [17:56] !wine [17:56] WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [17:56] oerheks: any idea why that may be? [17:56] good luck in #winehq, i do no windows stuff [17:56] That's cool, but this is more of an issue with Ubuntu not allowing wine to run except for superuser [17:57] It has everything to do with the way Ubuntu is setting permissions. [17:57] i guess you need to switch to that sane OSes [17:57] bondking: that's not true [17:57] You do not need root to run Wine [17:57] Oh believe me I would never run Ubuntu by choice [17:57] yeah, that's going to encourage ubuntu users here to help you [17:57] But you do need root to install apps for all users. That's normal. [17:58] enigma9o7: not in wine [17:58] bondking: you have yet to post any errors. Either way, your best bet is to contact the vendor for support. [17:58] Well that's not installing it for your actual OS, that'd be installing it within wine, in your home folder. [17:58] enigma9o7: I published my snap by the way :) [17:58] For the one user. [17:59] enigma9o7: now you're on the same page as the one asking for help [17:59] ravage: oh sweet, yeah I forgot you fixed frozen-bubble! [17:59] ravage: did you also share your fix with upstream debian or anything so it'll make it into the regular deb package? [18:00] Not yet. Did some tests with a friend earlier === Nebraskka_ is now known as Nebraskka [18:00] Also the current master server URL is my raspberry pi [18:00] no players in CED117 nor icepalace [18:01] My snap is the only version that works with network play atm [18:01] So that is to be expected:) [18:01] Ah ok. So the problem is the original "master server" is permanently down. [18:01] It is not really down [18:02] Source forge redirects to https but the game does not support it [18:02] And the list is old and contains only one working server anyway [18:02] leftyfb: I literally have never seen you be helpful tbh [18:02] Mostly just trolling and gatekeeping [18:02] ravage: I'll revisit it. Maybe I clicked the wrong thing. [18:02] Yup just tried again. It gives the error: wine: could not load kernel32.dll, status c0000135 [18:02] But that only happens on Ubuntu [18:04] bondking: it also happens with majaro with a completely different Windows application due to a misconifguration on your part: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/wine-could-not-load-kernel32-dll-status-c0000135/69811/2 [18:04] literally typed your error message on google and clicked on the first result and there's your answer [18:05] did you install wine 32 bit by adding architecture i386? [18:05] followed the guide i posted. runs just fine without root [18:06] what guide? [18:06] https://github.com/joaocarvalhoopen/LTSpice_on_Linux_Ubuntu__How_to_install_and_use [18:06] This does not happen on Manjaro btw leftyfb [18:07] ok, I will try this guide. Thank you ravage [18:07] bondking: it does when you have a misconfiguration as per the link I sent you which you seem to refuse to click obn [18:07] on* [18:08] haha if you get an kernel32.dll error .. with LTspice64.exe [18:09] I have installed LTSpice several times on several different distros without any issue whatsoever [18:09] only Ubuntu [18:10] Ok, followed the instructions in that guide. Same error. [18:10] https://p.haxxors.com/cerme7tm.mp4 [18:10] bondking: did you follow the link I posted? [18:11] No, because that is for Manjaro. I plan to look at it after this guide from ravage. [18:11] lol [18:11] Actually, the guide from ravage would usually work. [18:11] That is how it should work. [18:11] But on Ubuntu it does not. [18:12] check your wine version, and you show no output what happens when you try [18:12] There was no 'misconfiguration on [my] part' [18:12] likely it is. [18:12] There is no configuration involved in that guide if you look at it. [18:13] Its basically just 1) get wine-stable 2) get LTspice64.exe 3) run wine-stable LTspice.exe [18:14] Try it for yourself. Look inside and you will see that this is true. [18:15] bondking: ravage did and posted a video as proof [18:16] That isn't even the right program. [18:17] Anyway, I'm looking at your guide now leftyfb but its a little more sketchy [18:18] it's easily tested and reverted [18:19] Ok, cool. leftyfb your link helped [18:19] I had to delete ~/.wine and then run winecfg [18:19] ok, so misconfiguration [18:19] I did not create ~/.wine [18:19] So not misconfiguration by me [18:19] you did by using it with some program before [18:19] it was Ubuntu's fault [18:20] nope! :) [18:20] using the same profile with different applications is never a good idea [18:20] bondking: problem solved, good luck [18:20] LTspice is the only wine program I even use, so i don't eally know what a profile is [18:22] good luck [18:23] thanks <3 I appreciate you guys not being a bunch of haters and losers today [18:24] 'today'.. [18:24] tomorrow is a new day [18:24] bondking I have definitely been a hater and loser in the past. So I feel you [18:50] Have a server on Ubuntu 18LTS, anyone know of any issues I need to look out for if I do a "do-release-upgrade" from 18 to 20 and then 20 to 22? [18:52] EgonX: potentially something could break and you'd have to contact the software developer for suppourt [18:53] There is only one app the server runs and we are updating the os specifically for that update that needs Ubuntu 22. If that's all I have to worry about, this should go "fairly" smoothly [18:53] EgonX: If you don't have PPAs installed it should go fairly smooth [18:55] It shouldn't but I was just handed the server this morning... So I'm in an information gathering phase. I have no idea if the server has been used for anything else, but it shouldn't have been [18:59] If you don't know if the server is in use for anything I would turn it off and wait for anyone to notice it :) [19:00] If it is in use I would find out for what, document it and test your documentation with a fresh 24.04 installation [19:08] I've been having this issue with gvim which started relatively recently (in 24.04) where artifacts from wayland compositing animations kind of linger in the window until I kill and restart gvim. Typically window borders and typically after resizing a window or switching workspaces. Once it starts, it only keeps happening until I restart it. [19:09] But it doesn't start happening at first, it takes a little while to occur. It's a very strange bug. [19:11] artifacts and text missing? i found this answer interesting, GSK_RENDERER=gl >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1511575/ubuntu-24-04-screen-glitches-on-gnome-apps-after-install [19:35] hola , tengo un problema , alguien me puede ayudar? [19:35] !es | webchat50 [19:35] webchat50: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [19:37] ok,thank [19:44] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/kl80PwlP/image.png [19:45] ? [20:37] hello [20:38] Nobody here ? [20:39] I using xubuntu 24.04 , X is locked. I'm from ctrl +alt+ F1 [20:39] new installation [20:39] unlock it> which locking software? kill it? [20:40] I'm from text no X , is locked === jfsimon1981_b is now known as jfsimon [20:41] [ 91.896944] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: msvld: unable to load firmware data [20:41] [ 91.896951] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: msvld: init failed, -19 [20:41] What is your GPU [20:42] I'm using a oldest nvidia 630 card [20:42] impossible it is unsupported [20:42] It looks like missing firmware [20:42] how may I install firmware ? [20:42] The firmware package that comes with Ubuntu is pretty old [20:43] Let me see if I remember how to get a newer version [20:43] nouveanu support old nvidia [20:43] it go with debian 12 [20:44] If you are on Debian please contact Debian support [20:44] ubuntu-drivers list # my GTX650 is supported by the 470 driver [20:44] Well you could install the propreitary 470 driver package, it supports GT630. nvidai-driver-470 [20:44] i dont know which kernel version is supported by that [20:44] nvidia-driver-470 sorry [20:44] what packet ? [20:44] or go wild ubuntu-drivers autoinstall [20:45] no X here, bash [20:45] but if ubuntu-drivers offer it then install it [20:45] apt install .. ? [20:45] you dont need X for rhat [20:45] *that [20:45] sudo ubuntu-drivers install [20:45] ubuntu-drivers don't exist [20:46] apt install ubuntu-drivers # error dont exist [20:46] I want to be able to drag-and-drop a .JPG file onto a desktop icon and have it convert to a .PNG. I got an "imagemagick" command to work, then put it in a bash script (operating on "$1"). Then I made a .desktop file that runs "Exec /bin/bash /path/to/file.sh %F" when double-clicked. However, when I drag a file over the icon (on the desktop) nothing happens. [20:47] Ubuntu 22.04 [20:47] ubuntu-drivers list [20:48] # ubuntu-drivers install [20:48] All the available drivers are already installed. [20:49] # ubuntu-drivers list [20:49] ecdhe: that might be a good question for #bash methinks [20:49] stevie3: what does "ubuntu-drivers list" show? [20:54] bprompt: the bash script already works by referencing the $1 variable; the problem I have is the drag-n-drop doesn't result in the script getting called with the dragged-file-path [20:56] do you have Pro activated, for imagemagick updated packages? [20:57] Package: imagemagick Version: 8:6.9.11.60+dfsg-1.3ubuntu0.22.04.5+esm1 [20:58] ecdhe: so what is it called with instead? [20:59] ecdhe: hmmm the drag-n-drop will apply to the file manager used I'd think, I've written some bash stuff, however I use a right-click menu on a file to process it [20:59] ecdhe: and I use the right-click in Konqueror, which is my file manager [21:02] matsaman: file.sh contains something "convert $1 --flag --flag". "bash file.sh image.jpg" works. I have a .desktop file that runs the script when I double click it. The .desktop passes the "%F" variable instead of a "image.jpeg". [21:02] s/something/something like/ [21:03] ecdhe: I do about the same, I use a .desktop to launch it from the right-click [21:03] ecdhe: it passes %F literally as a string? [21:04] what makes you think your file manager or whatever supports %F? [21:05] matsaman: Freedesktop defines the variables accessible in their environment. %F expands to the list of files passed to the program through the freedesktop system. Ubuntu appears to have this feature disabled (but users report that it has worked in Ubuntu over the years) [21:06] ecdhe: okay so you're using GNOME's 'Files'? [21:07] ecdhe: which version of Ubuntu? [21:08] matsaman: I think the program is `nautilus`. 22.04 [21:10] ecdhe: might be this business: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1405687/how-to-install-filemanager-actions-in-ubuntu-22-04 [21:18] matsaman: this might work, thanks === Game1145422 is now known as Game114542 [22:14] hello [22:14] 73.255109] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nvd9_fuc084 failed with error -2 [22:14] [ 73.255177] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nvd9_fuc084d failed with error -2 [22:25] https://dpaste.com/AJMUH7LTD [22:30] stevie3, 1; your bios is outdated https://www.asus.com/supportonly/p8h61-m/helpdesk_bios/ [22:31] Version 4801 2.98 MB 2014/05/22 [22:34] oerheks: no, the pc is old, it's a I5 old [22:34] i see, only the 390 could work, or just nouveau https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/gf119-nvs-315-drivers-for-ubuntu/278821 [22:35] I thought I looked it up earlier and it was 470 driver. [22:35] stevie3: i5 is a family of processors. Not an age [22:35] err https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/535225/gf119-nvs-315-drivers-for-ubuntu/ [22:35] oerheks: no, with debian it go. Overall is not the bios, but the video card. However it's a I5-3550 , it's not a slow cpu. 4 phisical cores 4,3 hz [22:35] The 14401E i5 is expected to be released in the next couple months [22:36] stevie3: what release of Debian are you running? [22:36] 12 [22:36] .... [22:36] last [22:36] stevie3: perfect, try asking for support in #debian, not #ubuntu [22:36] oh that is why ubuntu drivers does not work 🤪 [22:36] I'm using ubuntu now [22:36] leftyfb: no dumb here [22:37] so, update bios first [22:37] bios is updated [22:38] stevie3: false [22:38] stevie3: https://www.asus.com/supportonly/p8h61-m/helpdesk_bios/ [22:39] stevie3: please update your BIOS [22:39] no bullshit [22:39] good luck [22:40] The latest is 4801 from 2014/05/22 according to your dmesg output, you are running 4601 from 2013/09/18 [22:41] interestingly enough, they don't show that version or release date on their page [22:42] oh, it's P8H61-M LE [22:43] yup, you're on the latest, though the release date of the BIOS doesn't match [22:43] stevie3: https://www.asus.com/supportonly/p8h61m_le/helpdesk_bios/ maybe try that latest BIOS anyway [22:43] since it's got a newer release date than what yours says, by a year [22:44] le? oink [22:44] also version Version 4601 [22:44] . [22:50] o === antonispgs1 is now known as antonispgs