| === chris14_ is now known as chris14 | ||
| hwaet | i went to an old distro (8) and there was this program called eikga softphone | 02:07 |
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| hwaet | did that mean you could call people from your pc for free? | 02:07 |
| hwaet | ekiga* | 02:08 |
| enigma9o7 | You're asking about software that's not currently in ubuntu? | 02:09 |
| hwaet | it's in ubuntu 8 | 02:09 |
| toddc | VOIP yuo still need a service to connect to normal phone numbers but it could be used with a separate service to call known pc/users thu a service | 02:10 |
| enigma9o7 | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekiga may be interesting to you | 02:10 |
| enigma9o7 | wikipedia said it supported SIP numbers, which afaik nobody provides free | 02:11 |
| toddc | there are a few but poor service is common https://www.lifewire.com/free-sip-providers-3426672 | 02:12 |
| enigma9o7 | but i dunno what you mean by "call people" either, and maybe you could call numbers without having one (kinda like skype) | 02:13 |
| toddc | enigma9o7: Ekiga converts mic and audio to data you still need anoter service to connect people/numbers ect | 02:15 |
| toddc | in very simple terms | 02:15 |
| hwaet | i never used it back in the day. didnt know it was there. | 02:16 |
| hwaet | but also nobody else i knew used ubuntu | 02:16 |
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| xX_SkibidiToilet | ermm what the sigma | 03:40 |
| kut | yolo | 03:47 |
| terminator_ | terminator is here! | 05:20 |
| derek-shnosh | Is there a way for gnome-text-editor to prevent any real-time modifications while it has read-only files (0444) open? Currently I can modify the file while its open, but it won't save, which is nice... but I'd like to prevent any input/deletion while the file is open. | 05:39 |
| anshag2007 | hi | 06:21 |
| anshag2007 | any way to change the username that appears after the @? | 06:22 |
| anshag2007 | https://imgur.com/a/XaKjH0m | 06:22 |
| anshag2007 | like here | 06:22 |
| anshag2007 | the ansh-PC part | 06:22 |
| CosmicDJ | anshag2007: the name after the @ is your hostname | 06:28 |
| anshag2007 | can i change it | 06:29 |
| CosmicDJ | anshag2007: sure | 06:29 |
| toddc | anshag2007: https://phoenixnap.com/kb/ubuntu-20-04-change-hostname | 06:29 |
| anshag2007 | ok | 06:29 |
| anshag2007 | ty | 06:29 |
| CosmicDJ | anshag2007: https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-change-hostname-on-ubuntu-22-04/ | 06:30 |
| CosmicDJ | anshag2007: scroll down for the GUI way | 06:30 |
| anshag2007 | ok | 06:30 |
| toddc | many ways to change it cli or Gui if on a desktop either or | 06:30 |
| audio | Is anyone able to read my 3 page proof for God's existence? | 06:34 |
| CosmicDJ | audio: wrong channel | 06:36 |
| audio | Ah | 06:37 |
| anshag2007 | ok i did change it through the cli method bcos i dont have the gnome settings | 06:38 |
| anshag2007 | im on xubuntu | 06:38 |
| anshag2007 | it wont cause any problems tho right? | 06:38 |
| CosmicDJ | anshag2007: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1178 "Choosing a Name for Your Computer" | 06:43 |
| anshag2007 | ok | 06:47 |
| === beni is now known as whitecold | ||
| simon_ | hey | 10:19 |
| simon_ | may I can ask whether webcataloge is available on ubuntu? also when I do apt update I see warnings | 10:19 |
| simon_ | also in ubuntu appstore there are apps which are uninstallable | 10:20 |
| ravage | That are a lot of questions simon_. https://webcatalog.io/en/desktop/linux/ | 10:28 |
| ravage | Should answer the first one | 10:28 |
| ravage | For the rest we need some more information | 10:28 |
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| Fantastic777 | I have a dual boot system with Ubuntu 20.04 (55GB for `/` , 69GB for `/home` , 10.3GB for Swap) and a 200GB of Windows partition. I want remove windows and install Ubuntu 24.04. | 11:59 |
| Fantastic777 | But for the Disk Size of the Ubuntu 24.04 partition I was thinking of giving 80GB for `/home` and 80GB for `/`. Is that fine? And, temporarily for the next few weeks, can I use the same swap space for both 20.04 and 24.04, given I don't have hibernation enabled, just so that I can log into Ubuntu 20.04 sometimes and get some hard-to-access files out (if any). I haven't done this in a long long time. I hope this is the right channel to ask | 11:59 |
| Fantastic777 | about this. This 24.04 will be my primary driver for the future | 11:59 |
| Fantastic777 | hello? | 11:59 |
| === antonispgs9 is now known as antonispgs | ||
| ravage | Why so complicated? | 12:01 |
| ravage | Wipe the disk and do a default desktop installation on the full drive | 12:02 |
| leftyfb | ^ | 12:02 |
| leftyfb | Fantastic777: the fact that you're asking this, suggests you don't actually need everthing on separate partitions. Keep it simple. Wipe the machine, start from scratch with with a new install using the default partitioning and restore your files from backup | 12:03 |
| Fantastic777 | I wish I could do a full wipe of the disk and do a default partitioning. I wish. But I just have a 500GB SSD and I use parts of it for Data backups. No separate data backup device. I know about backups and 3-2-1 backups. But this is all I have. | 12:05 |
| ravage | a backup on the same disk is not a backup | 12:06 |
| leftyfb | Fantastic777: you're actually making things worse by storing your "backup" on the same drive. The more you write to that drive, the less life it has. You are better off with no backup then to be using the same drive as a backup | 12:07 |
| Fantastic777 | I don't do regular backups to the disk. | 12:08 |
| Fantastic777 | just a separate data storage partition | 12:08 |
| leftyfb | don't | 12:09 |
| leftyfb | there's no benefit to a separate "data" partition | 12:10 |
| Fantastic777 | Like I said, I wish I could. | 12:10 |
| ravage | good luck 🙂 | 12:10 |
| Fantastic777 | Dude, I know this is bad practice, but this is all I have, so unless you can gift me a 2TB nvme ssd, a 2tb sata ssd, a couple of ram sticks, a good router, an asustor NAS, I won't be able to do this. | 12:12 |
| leftyfb | Fantastic777: you know you can get a 256GB flasgh drive for like $20 right? My local Facebook marketplace has 256GB SSD's for $10 | 12:13 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 12:14 |
| Fantastic777 | I have like 6 64GB flash drives within an arm's reach. | 12:14 |
| Fantastic777 | Hey, BluesKaj | 12:14 |
| ravage | so backup your data partition to those. format. be happy | 12:15 |
| Fantastic777 | they are already full | 12:15 |
| ravage | also maybe invest in a 2TB external HDD in the near future for a real backup of that data partition | 12:15 |
| leftyfb | great, put all your "backup data" onto those, reformat your machine and copy them back in a directory called "backup" | 12:15 |
| BluesKaj | hey Fantastic77 | 12:15 |
| Fantastic777 | yes, I will invest in a 2TB hdd (external) soon enough do that | 12:16 |
| leftyfb | Fantastic777: look on facebook marketplace or ebaY. you can get a 256-500GB drive for $10-$20 | 12:16 |
| leftyfb | probably 1TB if you look hard enough | 12:16 |
| Fantastic777 | no ebay here | 12:16 |
| leftyfb | where is "here"? | 12:16 |
| Fantastic777 | india | 12:17 |
| Fantastic777 | For the time being I am goign with my frakenstein-esque file system partition scheme. Will do a full new install once I acquire a new ssd. And I promise I will get a good backup plan in place as well. | 12:19 |
| Fantastic777 | bye for now | 12:20 |
| Dilema | Hi, which ubuntu DE support wayland session? | 12:28 |
| ravage | Gnome does | 12:29 |
| Dilema | Could please guide me how to install it on top of ubuntu 24.04 server edition? | 12:31 |
| ravage | sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop | 12:32 |
| ravage | But then it's not really a server anymore | 12:32 |
| Dilema | How much ram does it will use? sure, i don't want to run it as server, but the normal ubuntuk desktop 24.04 requires 4GB-6GB. | 12:34 |
| ravage | the same | 12:34 |
| Dilema | Which DE with wayland support suitable on 2GB RAM? | 12:35 |
| ravage | none | 12:35 |
| Dilema | I see, thank for your clarification. | 12:35 |
| nteodosio | Dilema, you can install Sway though. | 12:36 |
| nteodosio | (Not a DE) | 12:36 |
| Dilema | Actually I want to run waydroid which requires wayland session, but I only have 2GB RAM VM, That's why I try to figure out which DE is suitable for such situation. | 12:38 |
| Dilema | and the VM is on ARM64. | 12:39 |
| nteodosio | Dilema, a full desktop environment is rarely _needed_ for anything, Sway runs on Wayland and should be enough. | 12:42 |
| Dilema | Ok, i'll try that. | 12:43 |
| ioria | Dilema, you can also check the new 'miracle-wm' snap | 12:50 |
| ioria | Dilema, not yet stable for daily usage, btw | 12:51 |
| petros | hi | 12:58 |
| petros | hi | 12:59 |
| petros | hi | 12:59 |
| === justache- is now known as justache__ | ||
| lacrymology | I'm getting this trying to install some python packages: | 14:02 |
| lacrymology | Caused by: This error likely indicates that you need to install a library that provides "Python.h" for python-levenshtein-wheels==0.13.2 | 14:02 |
| lacrymology | I've got python3-dev installed | 14:02 |
| leftyfb | lacrymology: what release of ubuntu? | 14:15 |
| leftyfb | lacrymology: and what command are you running to get this error? | 14:16 |
| Thatguy | listen fuckers | 14:18 |
| Thatguy | quit connecting to human servers | 14:18 |
| leftyfb | Thatguy: this is a support channel. Please take it elsewhere | 14:19 |
| Thatguy | \quit | 14:19 |
| leftyfb | though I am curious about what a "human server" is | 14:20 |
| kk1234 | yea what did that even mean | 14:20 |
| kk1234 | an angry and unhinged AI bot maybe | 14:20 |
| lacrymology | leftyfb: pip install a large requirements file. It seems to be failing with that Levenshtein package, no idea what it does | 14:20 |
| lacrymology | leftyfb: 22.04 | 14:21 |
| leftyfb | lacrymology: sudo apt install python3-levenshtein | 14:21 |
| lacrymology | leftyfb: but I don't want to install it system-wide.. do I? | 14:21 |
| leftyfb | why not? | 14:22 |
| lacrymology | because we don't do that when we develop python apps, because different projects may depend on different versions of a library | 14:22 |
| leftyfb | lacrymology: then you might want to ask for help in #python | 14:23 |
| lacrymology | and because this may happen with other libs as well | 14:23 |
| oerheks | setup a proper venv for those projects? | 14:24 |
| lacrymology | oerheks: I am. It's failing to compile because it's not finding Python.h\ | 14:25 |
| lacrymology | leftyfb: I am asking in #python. I'm also asking here because this is an OS question: because I want to know what do I need to do for Python.h to be discoverable in my system. It's a compilation issue | 14:25 |
| cdriscoll | Have you also installed libpython*-dev packages? Replacing the wildcard with your python version (3.10, 3.12) | 14:35 |
| ioria | lacrymology, well, python3-dev should have installed python3.10-dev that should have pulled libpython3.10-dev which contains you Python.h, unless something happened | 14:49 |
| ioria | *your | 14:49 |
| === lubuntu is now known as rby | ||
| rby | italian? | 15:04 |
| eelstrebor | can i still install firefox from synaptic since i can't launch web sites from keepassx and thunderbird using the snap version of firefox? | 15:04 |
| lacrymology | ioria: it's there... hrm.. just gcc isn't finding it | 15:06 |
| comph | eelstrebor: what happens if you try? | 15:12 |
| comph | or what is the question? | 15:12 |
| eelstrebor | when i click on the link it won't launch the link in the browser - i have to copy and paste instead | 15:13 |
| comph | not sure about keepassx but thunderbird might have a setting for choosing browser | 15:13 |
| comph | default browser, could be os global too | 15:13 |
| comph | https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/net-default-browser.html | 15:14 |
| eelstrebor | it's a known problem - keepassx had a message that the link won't launch in the snap version of firefox | 15:14 |
| oerheks | +1 | 15:14 |
| comph | ok, so go for the synaptic version ..? | 15:15 |
| oerheks | there must be 100 blogs about this issue with keepassx and snaps, install the flathub version? | 15:15 |
| eelstrebor | i added the mozilla apt repository per mozillas instructions, removed the snap version, and then installed the apt repository version and everything works again | 15:17 |
| comph | nice | 15:18 |
| === dstein64- is now known as dstein64 | ||
| didi_ | My monitor is gettin black for 1 or 2 seconds. When I changed back to Xorg, the problem was solved. So I suppose its a mistake in Wayland; did anyone have the same problem? | 15:30 |
| ioria | lacrymology, have you tried with the 'python3.x-config' option ? gcc -c my.c $(python3.x-config --includes) gcc -o my my.o $(python3.x-config --ldflags) | 15:32 |
| mrec | years ago people ranted about pulseaudio, then pipewire came up and things can turn out in an even bigger disaster | 15:53 |
| mrec | I just upgraded from buster to the latest ubuntu version, pipewire slowed down everything and of course audio is not working at all | 15:54 |
| junyx | mrec is your user added to the audio group? | 15:59 |
| mrec | yes, I removed pipewire, I will have a look at it later | 16:27 |
| mrec | audio is able to lock up xorg completely here, after setting pulseaudio to HDMI output it's fine - so far | 16:27 |
| mrec | I will check later what's going on, my daughter is watching TV on it now | 16:28 |
| simon_ | uknown snapd exception cannot refresh snap store snap snapstore has running apps snapstore pid 11126 | 17:18 |
| simon_ | help pls | 17:19 |
| oerheks | try: killall snap-store && sudo snap refresh snap-store | 17:27 |
| leftyfb | simon_: or reboot | 17:40 |
| ioria | Guest2314 hey Eric^^ all good over there ? | 17:40 |
| simon_ | #finance | 18:21 |
| bondking | oof another snap bites the dust | 18:36 |
| fweht | after waking up from suspend, mouse cursor is working but neither keyboard nor mouse buttons.. any idea? | 18:38 |
| fweht | oh i realized its not about suspend i can change the settings so that it only turns off the display on lid closed and the problem persists | 18:45 |
| simon_ | fweht: I only had the problem on archlinux | 18:47 |
| fweht | anything suspicious here? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/wL9b98Rm | 18:50 |
| fweht | i think not... often there is not even an event btw lid closed and lid opened, still keyboard is broken | 18:54 |
| oerheks | check /etc/systemd/logind.conf https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2020/05/lid-close-behavior-ubuntu-20-04/ | 18:56 |
| fweht | oerheks: aaah i found something interesting, there seems to have been an invisible screen lock been enabled! i typed my password and enter and then i could continue using mouse/keyboard! | 19:00 |
| fweht | thats interesting! | 19:00 |
| zielnikh | I find my USB3 Ethernet Adapter (Brand: Benfei, from Amazon.com) can't work correctly via USB Hub after disconnection and re-connection. Journalctl debug gives error message saying "ModemManager couldn't check support for device "/sys/devices/pci000:.../usb2/2-3/...". Systemd-resolved and `ping` cmd seem stop working, but `dig` cmd works fine. The | 22:28 |
| zielnikh | NetworkManager wired connection logo shows the connection is in DNS-disabled status. But after I have connected my USB3 Ethernet Adapter directly to my host and waited for a hour, it's back to work again. I can ping and Network Manager Wired Connection logo shows the connection DNS-enable. I have this issue posted in askubuntu.com as a answer to | 22:28 |
| zielnikh | question#1502369. | 22:28 |
| zielnikh | This is really an annoying issue for the latest ubuntu 22.04 TLS, since some laptops do not have ethernet port anymore for slimmer design. | 22:31 |
| oerheks | benfei .. unknown company, they provide a driver https://www.think-benfei.com/p_driver.html | 22:32 |
| zielnikh | Let me see... | 22:33 |
| oerheks | for 8152 i would use the butterfly ppa https://launchpad.net/~kelebek333/+archive/ubuntu/driversor https://answers.launchpad.net/~awesometic/+archive/ubuntu/ppa | 22:37 |
| zielnikh | I have to build the driver first and then have RTL8152-based Benfei driver installed. Better to have a binary blob to download... | 22:38 |
| oerheks | dkms would be preferrable | 22:38 |
| oerheks | build against your kernel | 22:39 |
| zielnikh | As built-in driver? | 22:39 |
| oerheks | against that download yes | 22:39 |
| oerheks | it gets the original code from github | 22:39 |
| zielnikh | My! | 22:39 |
| zielnikh | As per my case, RTL8152 adapter works fine in the direct USB connection, but fails to work via USB hub. That means the driver should not be a issue. | 22:42 |
| oerheks | is that hub with its own external power? often the answer .. | 22:42 |
| === mrpond9 is now known as mrpond | ||
| zielnikh | No, it's not. But at the very beginning, the adapter worked with the hub correctly. Just plug in and they play. BTW, I can still dig google.com correctly via USB hub, but ping is out-of-work. | 22:44 |
| zielnikh | I don't know if my USB hub gets powered via USB-C already. It's a StarTech.com USB-C to USB3 adapter, quite modern in sense of design. | 22:46 |
| zielnikh | Do you think something should be done for the kernel's usb subsystem? | 22:46 |
| zielnikh | Or systemd-resolved? | 22:50 |
| zielnikh | and NetworkManager? | 22:52 |
| === tryfan3 is now known as tryfan | ||
| zielnikh | Have to leave now. Thanks, | 23:01 |
| fcatto | https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2486259 | 23:19 |
| fcatto | ubuntu is a big shit | 23:19 |
| fcatto | wayland introduced so many bugs | 23:20 |
| cbreak | you don't have to use it yet | 23:32 |
| cbreak | but I think I prefer it over mir :D | 23:36 |
| zorro_t | question: anyone know how to get facetime camera working on 2010-era imac ? | 23:58 |
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