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oerheks 01:15
hazeyezis there no way to upgrade from 21.04 to 24.04 from apt, since there is not a LTS version of 24.04 available? `sudo do-release-upgrade` is trying to upgrade to 22.04 from 21.04 for me01:24
oerheksyes, upgrade path is released on august 1501:24
oerhekstill then, do it with 22.04 LTS stable01:25
hazeyezoh i thought 24.04 was stable as of july 15th or something i thought i saw that01:25
oerheksone can install fresh from iso, read the releasenotes for current status01:26
oerheksi would stay on 22.04 for now.01:26
hazeyezyeah i dont want to have to back up my server for a new iso, 22.04 will do thanks01:27
oerhekshave fun!01:27
meustationbeen using nano as my go to text editor for a while. I'd like something a bit less primitive. friends from the hacklab that got me into linux used to rave on and on about either emacs or vim, if I recall correctly. are those both part of any standard LTS? (running a 22.04.4 at the moment)01:36
oerheksvim, gedit, all have their advantages01:37
meustationwhat would make a huge difference for me, as I aim to use something that runs inside a terminal (adore gedit and use the hell out of it already, as I believe it is the one that is already in the launchbar) is the feature of the text not going over the size of the terminal even when there is no line break in the text. not sure I explained myself properly ;(01:39
oerheksvim nano gedit, all can do what you need.01:41
oerheksthere is a reason why gedit is standard.01:41
meustationas I said, I adore gedit, always miss it when I'm on the windows machines at work. but nano definitely does not keep the text confined to the size of the terminal it is running into. unless I have to fiddle with something in the preferences. is vim part of a default install or do I have to add it manually?01:43
* meustation is installing vim01:45
meustationturns out it's not already present by default01:45
oerheksone can set terminal side ins ettings, easily01:45
oerhekssize/c01:45
meustationnot sure the settings of the terminal are the ones I'm looking to adjust01:49
meustationI usually resize it through gui interaction when in need01:49
meustationwould I find a config file for nano in one of the subdirectories of my home folder that start with a dot?01:50
oerheks~/. config/nano/nanorc01:52
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oerhekshttps://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/noble/man5/nanorc.5.html01:53
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meustationthanks02:10
oerhekshave fun!02:11
meustationuhm02:12
meustationno such path nor file in my /home folder :/02:13
enigma9o7vim-tiny is installed by default02:14
meustationthen I misread the response from the terminal when I tried to invoke the main version. but since it's just a few kb installing it was no big deal02:18
meustationfired it up opening a file I had lying on the desktop, I'll now have to look for the shortcuts, because unlike nano it does not list them when it's running02:18
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Mibixhmm so i used a script to help me enable gpu passthrough and now i cant boot properly :D03:25
Mibixi can get in to a root terminal but i for some reason cant see the uninstall.sh file on my user's desktop from root03:26
KomuMibix: Did u have /home on a seperat partition?03:29
enigma9o7well, it's probably not there.03:30
KomuMibix: u know the script and the location?03:30
enigma9o7if you looked in /home/username/Desktop03:30
Mibixno i can see everything on my desktop but the .sh files03:30
KomuMibix: u can sort with ls -ltra03:30
enigma9o7well if you can't see it, it's likely not there.03:30
Mibixweird this boot it shows lol03:31
Mibixhopefully this fixes it heh03:31
Mibixtimes like these i really hate how long servers take to boot03:32
enigma9o715 seconds or so?03:33
Mibixnope03:33
Mibixusually like 2 minutes for t his one03:33
Mibixyay, fixed :D03:35
ZiginoxI feel like I'm going mad here. How do I escape to a console while booted into the Ubuntu Server installer? ctrl+alt+f2 does nothing, nor does alt+f203:35
Mibixisnt it ctrl alt f103:36
Mibixor f503:36
Ziginoxthat would return to the first console, where the installer is running03:36
enigma9o7I think it was ctrl-alt-f303:36
ZiginoxI've tried ctrl+alt and alt with every F-key, no change :/03:36
Ziginoxand I've made sure my keyboard isn't doing anything stupid with media keys03:37
enigma9o7Great Scott!03:37
ZiginoxI was able to use F12 to get into the firmware boot menu, too. I'm at a loss, here.03:38
enigma9o7My guess is the server installer iso doesn't allow that.03:42
ZiginoxThat's... obnoxious03:42
ZiginoxThe real issue is, the installer keels over and dies when it attempts to wipe the NVMe storage. I get the following:03:43
Ziginox"wipefs: error: /dev/nvmedata/nvmedata: probing initialization failed: No such file or directory"03:43
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Ziginoxlike, I can't even get to a command line to see if that's the proper path for the drive or not.03:46
enigma9o7boot a live iso and remove all partitions?03:47
ZiginoxI already tried pulling the SSD and removing its partition table03:48
ZiginoxI don't think the drive is being encapsulated by the storage controller or anything, either. It shows up as a Samsung drive in the installer.03:49
enigma9o7So that leads to the question - is it a Samsung drive?03:52
Ziginoxyes03:52
Ziginoxand yep, Intel VMD is disabled in the UEFI settings03:52
enigma9o7Well that's a good thing.03:52
enigma9o7If it were me I'd still boot a live iso and see if anything weird goes on if you try to remove partitions, try to create a partition, reset the partition table, etc, maybe can figure out why the installer is having issues?  But perhaps there's better ideas, dunno.03:54
Ziginoxgoing to give that a try, now04:03
MibixWhy are all these options disabled for one GPU but not the other? https://imgur.com/a/7lGlgqa04:09
MibixI want the 1050 TI to use nouveau and the 710 to use nvidia if possible04:09
enigma9o7Interesting, I've never seen a dual nvidia setup before.  Not sure how to go about that tho.  If the 710 is on the motherboard I'd probably just disable it and use just the 1050, but dunno your use case.04:11
Mibixno they are both in pci :D04:11
Mibixgoing to pass through the 1050 ti to a VM04:11
Mibixwell trying to at least04:12
enigma9o7makes complete sense what you're trying to do.  Right now it's using 470 driver for both GPU I guess?04:13
Mibixim going to set it to Nouveau and see what happens heh04:13
Mibixlol enigma9o7 now black screens no matter what i hook the monitor to04:24
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Ziginoxenigma9o7: welp, I ended up just writing about 2GB /dev/urandom to the SSD and now it's just fine. Turns out there was an LVM group on the SSD, and even writing a new partition table on Windows didn't destroy it.04:49
Mibixif the gpu drivers dont load correctly and my screen is black is there a way to get to ther terminal?04:56
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Max-PGotta love it when snapd.apparmor.service crashes on 500 machines at the same time when you don't even use it06:20
anshag2007hii08:05
anshag2007how do i partition my harddrive08:05
anshag2007https://imgur.com/a/pd0Gd3G08:06
anshag2007this is how it is right now08:06
Hestonhi fellas, is there any easy way to tell if a package in an older release matches the same versioning as upstream?08:08
nteodosioHeston, I assume you are asking because you are not running that older release, in which case just look at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/<package>.08:32
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lxsameerhey folks, is there any channel for snapcraft devs?08:37
CosmicDJlxsameer: they have a forum -> https://forum.snapcraft.io08:38
ravageYou can also check https://matrix.to/#/%23snapcraft:ubuntu.com08:39
lxsameercheers08:40
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Hestonnteodosio, cool thank you08:48
nteodosioYou're welcome.08:48
[twisti]i have a ubuntu raspberry pi 4 which runs some small docker containers; now i find myself needing a proper vm. whats the go to hypervisor for that on ubuntu ? lts 22 if it matters08:56
ravagelxd can do VMs09:03
waveformlxd is indeed probably the easiest way to get going but ultimately (for VMs) it's just running qemu under the covers and so will most other things, so it's mostly a game of "pick your qemu wrapper"09:12
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[twisti]thanks10:10
vadiquealoha again10:50
vadiquefinally, I installed it10:50
lucas__hi10:51
vadiquehttps://ibb.co/ZKWXbyR I woke up in the morning and just tried it again10:51
mgedminthe way various tools display bind mounts is incredibly funny to me10:53
mgedmin"yes, /dev/nvme0n1p5 is used for /var/snap/firefox/common/host-hunspell, oh and also / I suppose"10:53
vadique... ubuntu-desktop-bootstrap worked till the end, so now I have a nice fresh 24.04 installation10:58
vadique(well, I did https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2348381 to move the window controls to the left, and installed hexchat and gparted)11:00
vadiqueall my hands up for a gui option to do that11:01
mgedmingnome-tweaks has the gui option for that11:01
vadiquemgedmin, wow really11:04
vadiquebut "titlebar actions -> double-click -> toggle shade" doesn't work :(11:05
mgedminvadique: https://imgur.com/a/h1sbXyO11:05
vadiqueyep, it shows that window11:06
mgedminhmm, I wonder if shading is even supported by gnome-shell?11:06
vadiquexfce4 does11:06
mgedminor, rather, if wayland has a protocol for apps to ask to be shaded11:06
mgedminfor a couple of years middle-click to lower only worked for Xwayland apps, which was annoying11:07
BluesKajHi all11:07
mgedmin(although there are still apps like firefox that intercept title bar middle clicks and do their own thing, so I can't rely on it anyway)11:07
vadique"middle-click" is something totally impossible on a touchpad11:07
vadiqueow nope, it's quite possible here on this laptop by pressing in the bottom middle11:16
mgedminalso sometimes middle-click can be done with three-finger tapping11:17
mgedminbut I have a thinkpad with three physical buttons above the clickpad, so11:17
vadiqueI did it before but don't remember how... to get read/write on hfs+ volumes11:23
fwehtwhats tricky on the touchpad is right-click-drag :)11:23
vadiqueit's sudo apt-get install hfsprogs11:31
vadiquebut I don't see an external drive anymore11:31
lotuspsychj3vadique: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus11:33
tssHi. Upgraded 22.04 -> 24.04 in Macbook M1 / Parallels, and now it won't boot, not even to grub. Is it even grub in arm64, not sure? No full live image for amd64, only server image, so can't try boot-repair. manual grub-install complains /usr/lib/grub/arm64-efi/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Any suggestions?11:43
tssoops, s/amd64/arm64/11:44
lotuspsychj3tss: upgrade to 24.04 is not open yet, unless you agreed to early upgrade -d to devel release11:45
tssI didn't expect it to break so badly :)11:45
lotuspsychj3tss: a system should always be able to still enter grub, unless the install really borked12:03
tssseems like installing grub-efi-amd64 package helped.12:04
lotuspsychj3tss: hmm weird, the new 24.04 installer has some work to do still, but upgrades skip the installer12:05
tssgrub-efi-arm64 was anyway at deinstalled state when I looked at it, and then I installed back. there is some efibootmgr package also which I wondered if it was supposed to have replaced grub, but that just gave errors.12:08
lotuspsychj3im not too expert on efi stuff myself12:09
mgedminefibootmgr reads and writes EFI system variables to tell the firmware where to find GRUB12:09
lotuspsychj3but we see those come back a lot on bugs12:09
lubuntusad'14:13
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Mibixhmm is there a way to do a bridged adapter like in KVM like you can in virtualbox?15:50
leftyfbMibix: yes15:58
Mibixbecause i still want to be able to hit my host via its ip15:59
Mibixand if i remove its ethernet connection and turn it into a bridge it no worky15:59
leftyfbthen you didn't do it properly15:59
leftyfbMibix: pastebin your netplan file16:00
Mibixwell i removed the bridge  hold on16:02
oerheksqemu gives that option, in the gui16:03
Mibixwhaat16:03
Mibixin virtual machine manager?16:03
leftyfbMibix: https://www.dzombak.com/blog/2024/02/Setting-up-KVM-virtual-machines-using-a-bridged-network.html16:03
Mibixoerheks?16:04
Mibixin virtualbox you dont have to touch your main ethernet connection it just bridges it16:06
Mibixahhh all i needed to do was set it to macvtap my ethernet :D16:08
leftyfbno you don't, but ok16:08
Mibixi mean this seems equivalent to the bridged adapter in vbox16:11
hggdhcaralho: please change your nick to something different than a awear word16:15
caralhoIt's not a swear word wtf?16:15
hggdhagain please do it. I also speak Portuguese16:16
caralhoChange your nick to something that isn't nonsense16:16
caralhoThis has been my nickname for years16:16
bebophggdh: you think everything has to mean Portuguese?? who cares dude this is obviously in english.16:21
lotuspsychj3bebop: not a topic for here please16:22
beboptell that to hggdh16:23
mybalzitchoof16:46
Guest38hggdh: Oh, you speak Portuguese in the English only channel? Vai-te foder :P Shine your op on that17:00
derek-shnoshHello... where is the configuration file for application icons that are "pinned to dash" in Ubuntu 24.04 LTS?17:09
oerheksthe file is a desktop file, usr/share/applications/  and icons are stored in /usr/share/pixmaps17:11
oerheksoh, crossposting too17:12
lotuspsychj3derek-shnosh: maybe also share what your end goal is please, so volunteers can think along with you17:12
oerheksburp17:12
derek-shnoshoerheks: having the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications just does put the icon in the "overview dash"... but I'm talking about when you right-click those icons and select "Pin to dash"17:13
derek-shnoshWhere is _that_ setting/config file/whatever?17:13
oerheksthat would be the .desktop file?17:14
derek-shnoshoerheks: I see no difference in the .desktop file when the icon is pinned/not pinned.17:15
lotuspsychj3what do you want to do exactly derek-shnosh17:15
oerheksfull specs https://specifications.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/17:15
derek-shnoshlotuspsychj3: I have 3 chrome icons in my dock/dash.... associated with META+# keys. When type META+# associated with two of them, it properly opens them. Then if I go to another app and hit the META+# key again it properly goes back to the already open instance. The third chrome icon launches a new instance every time.17:16
derek-shnoshI have diffed the two "working" .desktop files with the _broken_ one, but see nothing concerning.17:16
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derek-shnoshIcon #1 (working): https://bpa.st/GCLQ -- Icon #2 (working): https://bpa.st/2UAA -- Icon #3 ("broken"): https://bpa.st/6E5Q17:19
oerheksi see something DS1 DS2 DS3 ?17:21
derek-shnoshI started digging into the ~/.config/google-chrome-DS[123]/preferences files, but those are MASSIVE.17:21
derek-shnoshCorrect, that is intended... Each one opens chrome referencing a different chrome profile and data directory. So they're all "separate" instances.17:22
derek-shnoshRelevant reference: https://github.com/felipecrs/dotfiles/blob/master/scripts/create_alternative_chrome_shortcut.sh17:23
lotuspsychj3derek-shnosh: maybe this can help here; https://askubuntu.com/questions/1112571/how-can-i-start-a-separate-instance-not-profile-of-chromium-with-its-own-icon/1113914#111391417:29
derek-shnoshlotuspsychj3: that is exactly what has been done in my .desktop files already... but instead of an explicit "StartupWMClass=DS[123]" as that is relevant to older versions of chrome (that answer is from 2019". It is how in the exec= line as "--class=google-chrome-DS[123]"17:31
derek-shnoshLord, so many typos there... )* ; how=now*17:32
oerheksnormally one adds a profile to the current chrome,  ask the script maintainer where to store icons? as it claims " This lets you have different icons for different instances of Google Chrome."17:43
oerheksi don' t see the entry.17:43
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oerheks!rootirc17:45
ubottuIt's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.17:45
derek-shnoshoerheks: The script stores files in ~/.local/share/applications/google-chrome-DS[123]. I provided the output of their contents in the 3 pastes earlier.17:50
derek-shnoshIf you just add 3 profiles to chrome (without separate data dirs) and make a different desktop entry for each profile, you don't get your true separate instances in the dash/dock.17:51
oerheksso, ask the maintainer of that script where he hides the icons? i don't see it.17:52
derek-shnoshI tried that already... creating 3 separate .desktop files, modifying the [Desktop Action new-window-DS#] with exec= lines accordingly.17:52
derek-shnoshI don't understand what you mean, he's not hiding anything.17:53
derek-shnoshThe script creates .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications/google-chrome-{xyz}.desktop17:53
derek-shnoshLine 124 they store the path as a variable named "shortcut".17:54
derek-shnoshHmm... may be onto something here. So I "sanitized" my previous profile/data dir names as DS1, DS2, and DS3, all of them have 3 characters in them. They're names are actually more like DS1, DS2, and D3... the "broken" profile only has 2 characters. I just created a profile named "testing" and its working properly like DS1 and DS2. Going to try to recreate the 3rd profile with 3 characters and see what I get.18:09
derek-shnoshThat seems to be the issue... I took some time to look into another consideration though, whether or not any webapps were "isntalled" (MS Outlook PWA, etc). But my other profiles also have apps installed (messages, voice, etc).18:34
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germeshello19:03
Guest85Ola19:06
oerheks:-)19:07
Guest85Ola19:08
Guest85Eres mujer19:09
leftyfb!es | Guest8519:09
ubottuGuest85: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:09
derek-shnoshErr, now that I understand the root cause of my issue.. I am still curious if there is some configuration file that pins .desktop icons to the dock.19:09
ravagedconf read /org/gnome/shell/favorite-apps19:13
derek-shnoshExcellent, thanks!19:14
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mrgollicioburdathi22:01
delsol_laptopGreetings22:01
mrgollicioburdatHow can I see who is in this room mr @delsol_laptop22:01
delsol_laptopdepends on your client.22:02
mrgollicioburdatDo you have knowledge on Quassel IRC?22:02
delsol_laptopbut normally /who #<channelname> works22:02
delsol_laptopsome clients will have an extra window you can pop up, or a sidebar with everyone who is here.22:02
delsol_laptopbut /who is the old school way.22:03
mrgollicioburdathm22:03
mrgollicioburdatthank you I guess.22:03
mrgollicioburdat /who #ubuntu22:03
mrgollicioburdatis correct for this channel right?22:03
delsol_laptopyes22:04
Mibixleftyb you were right :D22:18
MibixI followed the guide https://www.dzombak.com/blog/2024/02/Setting-up-KVM-virtual-machines-using-a-bridged-network.html22:18
Mibixmy br0 never got an IP assigned though22:19
oerheksthis example gives DHCP only on the bridge, not the adapter https://github.com/canonical/netplan/blob/main/examples/bridge.yaml22:20
Mibixgrrr22:45
Mibixyok im going to get off my bouncer while i do this :D22:52
Mibixyoerheks all those examples use networkd as their renderer but miner uses NetworkManager and doesnt like it when i switch22:54
Mibixyonly thing i can think of that is different22:54
ravagehttps://chatgpt.com/share/e38dce83-bb4c-4aed-a6ae-58512a3a021122:58
ravageI'm sure you can adapt what you need22:59
sarnoldit sure *looks* plausible22:59
sarnoldI wonder if it actually exists :)22:59
ravageIt's really not voodoo to create a bridge with network manager23:00
ravageIt's the best I could do from my phone23:00
Mibixyi mean the bridge works its just not getting an ip23:01
sarnoldravage: good idea :)23:01
ravageYou could share your network manager config then23:02
sarnoldravage: i've just asked the chatgpt some questions that felt fairly straightforward and it invented some utter nonsense that didn't exist23:02
ravageYes that happens23:02
Mibixyhttps://pastebin.com/HyV07TGh23:02
ravageFirst do not use dhcp on the Network interface23:03
ravageAnd I think you should force that interface up somehow23:04
Mibixyhmm?23:05
sarnoldwith a bridge, the IP is on the bridge, not the interface23:05
ravageSet dhcp to no on the network interface23:06
Mibixyok i did that23:07
ravagehttps://p.haxxors.com/ns5fh7s5.yaml23:08
ravageThat should work if there is a dhcp server23:08
ravagehttps://p.haxxors.com/ns5fh7s5.yaml23:08
Mibixyhttps://pastebin.com/eDhVnYm223:09
ravageThere is still an IP23:09
ravageReboot and make sure that config is actually used23:09
ravageIs this a server install?23:10
Mibixyyes23:10
Mibixylet me add the parameters and optional part23:11
ravageif eno1 still gets an IP after a reboot your network config is not applied23:12
ravagei actually dont have a 24.04 server install running atm. but i will in about 15 mins 😛23:12
ravagemaybe even 10. download is fast23:13
Mibixybr0: reverting custom parameters for bridges and bonds is not supported23:13
Mibixyim 22.0423:13
ravageoh then its really just netplan23:13
ravagebut i can try that with 22.04 too23:14
Mibixyso i did sudo netplan apply with what you sent me for the config23:15
Mibixyeno1 still has an ip23:15
Mibixybr0 doesnt23:15
ravagedid you reboot?23:15
Mibixyugh23:15
Mibixyis there another way lol23:15
ravagewhy is a reboot a problem?23:15
Mibixyi guess its not but it takes a while23:16
ravageis the config ok?23:16
ravageso the apply goes trough?23:16
Mibixyyes23:16
Mibixyits restarting now23:16
ravageok23:16
Mibixytake like 2-3 minutes23:17
ravageyou have been fiddling with for hours it seems23:17
ravageso what are 3 mins23:17
ravage+this23:17
Mibixyhaha ravage23:18
Mibixylol this is taking some time hold on23:23
oerheksyes, like this example https://github.com/canonical/netplan/blob/main/examples/bridge.yaml but networkd is wrong23:24
ravageyou do not need any renderer set on 22.04 really23:25
sarnoldravage: does it make sense to consider dropping NM for systemd-networkd here?23:26
sarnoldravage: i never see NM used for things this complex, it's normally just "hey i have wifi!" kinds of things, no?23:27
ravagehttps://p.haxxors.com/e5ge4nab.yam23:28
ravagetested on my new 22.04 server VM23:28
ravagebridge is up and running23:28
sarnoldwhat renderer was usedf or it?23:28
ravagesystemd-networkd i guess23:29
ravagethats the only thing really running on a 22.04 server23:29
sarnoldyeah, servers don't usually have NM23:29
ravageso if you copy & paste that to your netplan yaml it should really just work23:31
ravageif that is a plain 22.04 server setup23:31
Mibixyhttps://pastebin.com/hLyxDjig23:31
ravageugh23:31
sarnoldwow23:32
ravagethat is nasty23:32
ravagei dont think i even want to begin to understand what you did to that poor system23:32
Mibixyhaha23:34
Mibixymy vm with that bridge is getting internet and the right ip23:35
ravagemy suggestion is to backup your data and start fresh. undoing all that will take longer than a reinstall23:36
ravagein theory you dont need br023:36
ravagevirbr0 is already working as expected23:36
ravagei would still not feel comfortable using this monstrosity23:37
Mibixyi cant ping my vm from elsewhere in my network23:37
Mibixyand it cant ping the host23:38
sarnoldi wouldn't trust ping23:38
sarnoldI have vague memories of virtualbox not doing ping well23:39
sarnoldtry tcp tests23:39
Mibixyi can access it via other methods...23:39
ravagevirtualbox does strange things to your networking23:39
Mibixyhold on23:39
Mibixyyeah im trying to get off of vbox23:39
Mibixyvirbr0 is on the wrong ip range23:40
ravagei know this is Ubuntu support.. but if you really want to use this server as a headless virtualization thing have a look at proxmox23:41
ravagemuch cleaner to manage23:41
ravageand it has a nice web interface too 😛23:42
Mibixyehh i only have two VMs most my other stuff doesnt run through a VM23:43
sarnolddoes proxmox do anything for dockers?23:43
ravagebut it can! 😛23:43
sarnoldlol23:43
Mibixyseems like a waste of resources :p23:43
ravageyou usually just start a VM for that23:43
ravagein theory it also runs in lxc23:43
ravagebut maybe not the smartest choice23:44
ravageVMs do not really waste a lot of resources these days23:44
Mibixyi cant access a webserver the vm is running from outside :/23:44
Mibixywait a sec...23:45
Mibixythis could work23:45
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Mibixyehh i dunno i still cant seem to rdp or anything to this win vm on here yet23:58
Mibixycant ping anything on my network from it23:59
Mibixycan access an smb share on the host....23:59

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