[00:03] Mibixy: heh that reinforces my vague memory that virtualbox doesn't do icmp or something like that [00:03] Mibixy: maybe now is a great time to drive your "replace virtualbox" project to conclusion? [00:03] this isnt virtualbox [00:03] im trying to replace it with qemu/kvm [00:03] virtualbox you just set a bridged adapter and it works instantly [00:05] ravage you know why i cant ping from it or rdp to it? === Mibix_ is now known as Mibixy [00:33] -yes [00:34] -yes [00:34] -yes [01:05] i cant access my host by ip anymore either [01:05] from anywhere... [01:15] F it im going back to virtualbox [01:23] haha.. [01:23] Mibixy: Hi, what is your issue that your KVM based VM not getting IP and not going to internet ? [01:24] is it in your HOME LAN or are you setting up KVM in remote ? [01:27] Mibixy: Pastebin these commands from your HOST: (ifconfig , virsh net-list , virsh net-info hostbridge , sudo brctl show br0 ) .. btw Did you setup br0 on your HOST ? === chris14_ is now known as chris14 === Mibix is now known as Mibixy [02:59] Hi [02:59] How do I install wine? [02:59] the same way you install anyting, with apt [03:00] that didn't work [03:00] it looks like wine32 is missing, you should install it. [03:00] I get that message when I do wine --version [03:01] as root, please execute "apt-get install wine32:i386" [03:01] but that package doesn't exist === Mibix is now known as Mibixy [03:01] Package wine32:i386 is a virtual package provided by: [03:02] winehq-staging:i386 9.14~noble-1 [03:02] winehq-devel:i386 9.14~noble-1 [03:03] https://bpa.st/XMLA [03:10] !info wine noble | CoolerX [03:10] CoolerX: wine (9.0~repack-4build3, noble): Windows API implementation - standard suite. In component universe, is optional. Built by wine. Size 51 kB / 133 kB [03:16] hi [03:21] Bashing-om: what? [03:21] I have that [03:21] but I need the 32 bit version [03:21] to run 32 bit executables [03:29] CoolerX: Nothing more I can add to the help you are getting in the #linux channel. [03:39] https://www.reddit.com/r/winehq/comments/yytf74/i_dont_think_its_possible_to_install_wine32_on/?rdt=45614 [03:50] Zen vient d’avoir une màj. En effet, le terme Nightly vient de cette fréquence rapide de mise à jour. Je pense que ça sera un challenger intéressant d’ici quelques temps vs les produits de Mozilla. [03:50] oops [03:50] sorry [03:51] Wront channel [03:51] * wrong [04:24] i have a weird problem where when a letter i typed doesnt appear until i type the next letter or i wait for really long like 20 seconds or so. i suspect that its a graphics thing, that the keystroke was detected correctly and all but only the screen doesnt update until another change is detected (like another letter)? [04:30] fweht: try xorg vs wayland as a test [04:30] lotuspsychj3: i just removed nvidia drivers and it seems better! [04:31] i use xubuntu it doesnt support wayland i think [04:33] fweht: you can also do a second user account test, see if its user related [04:37] i think it was really the drivers, i rebooted with open source drivers... i think it was only a lag when drawing small chages to the screen like a single letter or a small hover state on a website === s is now known as Guest3855 === a is now known as Guest9805 === mrpond7 is now known as mrpond [08:44] hi all i can't delete file on my usb pen [08:45] use disk-tools to format it Guest25 [08:46] how to change permissions without format? [08:46] Guest25: or open nautilus and ctrl+ l and type admin:/// to try deleting the file [08:46] i need to delete only some files and folders [08:47] where to type? [08:47] there is a menu with "adm" [08:47] no space to type [08:47] menu near the voice "Group" [08:48] ctrl + l first in nautilus [08:48] then ontop you can type admin:/// in the pane [08:49] there's no any space to type something [08:49] just menu and checkbox [08:51] selected group by default is "ubuntu" i tried to change on "Read and write" for all menus, but it didn't work [08:53] lotuspsychj3 https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zExhLVdm5Gv1rQevB83kS7nUlM8B9qvS/view?usp=sharing [08:54] Guest25: no, thats not right, you need to open nautilus (files) first [08:55] Guest25: https://i.sstatic.net/hTlUL.png [08:55] menu "group" contains ADM ----- CDROM ----- DIP----- LPADMIN-----LXD-----PLUGDEV-------SAMBASHARE -----SUDO ----UBUNTU [08:58] lotuspsychj3 OK but how to type in that line? it doesn't let me do it, just if i click on "search" button, but it starts to search [08:59] it says me "No results found" just like a search [09:15] lotuspsychj3 are u there? i cannot write that path in the space above [09:15] it just let me search [09:15] admin:/// [09:20] i read that the problem may be caused by the fact that pendrive is formatted in fat32, but i need it in that filesystem, otherwise car's stereo doen'st read it well [09:23] * ravage uploaded a video: (126KiB) < https://xentonix.net/_matrix/media/v3/download/xentonix.net/KTJsHBZbHstuKpDoLuDyFvbc/Screencast%20from%202024-08-03%2011-22-25.mp4 > [09:23] try that [09:28] ok ravage but now? [09:28] now you do whatever you want to do === gaelheart-away is now known as gaelheart [09:30] admin:///media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB [09:30] i'm in this folder, but on the icon of folder "PENNA" ther is a padlock [09:31] and even by this folder, i can't delete some files on the pendrive usb [09:34] open a terminal. zype "mount | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste the URL it outputs here [09:34] *type [09:38] ravage https://pastebin.com/raw/rgqdGh4T [09:38] excuse me i use pastebin often i wrong if i try otherwise [09:38] is this a live usb boot or VM install btw? [09:39] sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB/* [09:42] oh that whole thing is mounted read only [09:42] how did you open it? [09:42] i'm using ubuntu by a live usb of ubuntu, but pendrive on which i need to delete files is another pendrive [09:43] i opened it by file manager [09:44] cd ~;sudo umount /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB; sudo mount -o uid=1000,gid=1000,rw /dev/sdd1 /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB [09:44] try that [09:45] wait [09:45] do i need to first to type this: sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB/* [09:45] or not? [09:45] before you do anything else try: id -u [09:46] what number does that show? [09:46] 999 [09:46] cd ~;sudo umount /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB; sudo mount -o uid=999,gid=999,rw /dev/sdd1 /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB [09:46] then do this [09:47] all in one time? [09:47] close all windows that have the pendrive open first [09:47] yes [09:47] aren't they 2 different commands? i see a";" dot and comma between them [09:48] yes this are 3 commands [09:48] ok then one per time? [09:48] just paste the whole line [09:49] ah ok, i guess it will do them one after one, excuse me but i'm not so expert of ubuntu [09:50] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cd ~;sudo umount /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB; sudo mount -o uid=999,gid=999,rw /dev/sdd1 /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB [09:50] mount: /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB: mount point does not exist. [09:50] sudo mkdir /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB; sudo mount -o uid=999,gid=999,rw /dev/sdd1 /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB [09:56] ravage [09:56] mount: /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB: WARNING: source write-protected, mounted read-only. [09:56] Then your media is not writeable [09:57] is in fat32 [09:57] i read that the problem may be cause but the fact is in fat32 [09:57] The media refuses to write [09:57] That is a hardware limitation [09:59] i always use this pen to put in it the mp3 for my car's stereo [09:59] when i did it, i can quietly write on it [10:00] sudo journalctl -b -n50|nc termbin.com 9999 [10:03] the filesystem may be corrupted and thats why it mounts read only [10:04] so you can try: sudo umount /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB; fsck.vfat -y /dev/sdd1 [10:04] see if that corrects anything [10:04] then unplug the drive and plug it in again [10:06] ravage [10:06] https://pastebin.com/raw/Ay41G9uq [10:07] try the fsck command [10:07] ravage how to stop the process started with the previous command'? [10:07] journalctl [10:07] ctrl-c [10:08] or just q [10:08] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB; fsck.vfat -y /dev/sdd1 [10:08] fsck.fat 4.2 (2021-01-31) [10:08] open: Permission denied [10:08] sorry [10:08] sudo fsck.vfat -y /dev/sdd1 [10:17] ravage [10:17] ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB; sudo fsck.vfat -y /dev/sdd1 [10:17] umount: /media/ubuntu/PENNA128GB: not mounted. [10:17] fsck.fat 4.2 (2021-01-31) [10:17] open: Read-only file system [10:18] ok as i said the device is not writeable at all for some reason [10:18] there is not much i can do for you [10:22] ok thanks a lot [10:23] i guess there is a way to change this condition of the pendrive [10:23] ravage [10:23] is there simplex chat in snap format? [10:32] simon_: tui? [10:53] CosmicDJ: what is tui? [10:56] is flatpak a good way to isolate an app from my system [10:57] can I send a link in here? [11:24] Hi all [11:27] simon_: you you try a snap i built to test? [11:27] *would you === five6184803399 is now known as five618480339 [11:33] ravage if it is in the ubuntu snap store yes [11:33] :D [11:34] not yet [11:44] then I am too feared xd [11:45] not sure why you would feel more secure when you download the same file from the store but ok [11:45] will take a while to get the snap name approved [11:45] they still do that manual approve thing [11:46] but you can send me your ID so i at least have someone to chat with and test 😄 [11:46] because I can just apt install simplex-chat which makes me feel better [11:46] and no thirdparty [11:46] there is no simplex-chat package in the repos [11:47] could I just spin up a vm and start simplex in it? [11:48] something like a simplex vm? [11:48] im not sure if you can do that [11:48] im sure that is possible to do [11:48] would be cool to have a distro like the one that puts everything in a container because no app is secure lol [11:52] anyways I am getting gnome boxes [11:53] how do I know which ubuntu version I am using right now? [11:55] in the terminal, lsb_release -a [12:02] can I cancle the internet connection of gnome boxes in case something goes wrong? [12:02] cancel [12:11] Hello! [12:12] installing gnome boxes via apt was a mistake [12:12] hell nah [12:13] can I be hacked by installing apt pkgs [12:13] ? [12:14] sure it is software that has access to your home directory [12:15] or your whole system if you run it as root [12:16] I think I got hacked then [12:16] lol [12:16] I installed it with sudo [12:17] and removed it again [12:17] .deb's install scripts run with superuser permissions. so better don't install them from untrusted sources. [12:17] I installed from terminal apt install gnome-boxes [12:18] That is a trusted source if you did not add any 3rd party package sources [12:19] ravage can I see which I have installed via snap which are not from ubuntu [12:19] lol [12:19] snap list [12:20] simon_: What makes you think you got hacked by installing gnome-boxes again? :) [12:20] Infrared_: my mouse lagged for 7 seconds after removing gnome boxes [12:21] simon_: It's very unlikely :) You installed a package from an official source and removed it, I wouldn't worry about having been hacked because of a bit of mouse lag [12:21] telegram-desktop kf5-5-111-qt-5-15-11-core22 konversation firefox I have these 4 not canocial packages [12:23] It's up to you to decide whether you trust them [12:24] if you use firefox for example i would say you trust mozilla [12:25] ravage: is there an app to put the apps out of my system? XD [12:26] snap remove [12:37] ravage is virtual box good? [12:38] Not my favorite tool [12:38] Messes with the system too much [12:38] I use virt-manager [12:57] hello everyone === floown_ is now known as floown [13:15] how much gb ram do I need for ubuntu [13:15] ? [13:24] simon_: 4 GB is the absolute minimum for ubuntu desktop, but you really want more, like 6, for anything but very basic use. [13:25] and for lubuntu [13:25] ? [13:25] roughly the same [13:29] What's the best way to back up home folder? [13:30] 3800 has to work out tomreyn [13:30] !backup | noob37 [13:30] noob37: There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup, !borg, and !cloning [13:31] Thanks ubottu [13:31] Is it possible to back up multiple users at once, or must we do one by one? [13:33] simon_: you can try using sway + wayland, and a very simple web browser [13:33] lubuntu seem to work [13:34] lubuntu is using 1300 mib [13:36] can I somewhere upload a picture so you can tell me whether it is ok or not tomreyn [13:37] simon_: a picture of what, and wtell you what is ok? you can upload images at imgur.com, for example. [13:37] 2 times top [13:37] hi [13:37] in terminal :d [13:37] noob37: if the backups tool runs as root, it can access any directory, including multiple users' home directories. [13:38] I think those new graphics drivers [ROCm] ruined my machine. Is there some command to reinstall all the system stuff in ubuntu, from kernels to device drivers? [13:38] simon_: i won't be able to provide a better answer than i already did. [13:39] SamuelMarks: not a single, universal, command. but you could use apt to uninstall any *rocm* packages as well as any unwanted kernel images you have installed. [13:39] I've already removed all the graphics drivers and am running kernel 6.10.2 [13:40] https://imgur.com/a/I1R8eUD tomreyn this is what it looks like [13:40] ohhh but I see the problem [13:41] when not running vm I already am using 5000 of my ram [13:42] that really sucks [13:42] running a graphical VM on this system isn't going to be fun. you could run ubuntu server in a vm, but that, too, will likely cause it to swap. [13:42] I tried `sudo apt reinstall ubuntu-desktop` but it only did one package. I want GNOME and friends to be reinstalled because something is wonky. E.g., software updater GUI doesn't load, other GUI software doesn't show dialog boxes, machine is running with fans on always [13:43] tomreyn: is there anotherway to isolate simplex from my system it is an app [13:44] but you also said I could use sway? [13:44] oh here we go getting some errors now: "\libEGL warning: DRI2: failed to authenticate" "MESA: error: ZINK: failed to choose pdev" "libEGL warning: egl: failed to create dri2 screen" "libEGL fatal: DRI driver not from this Mesa build ('24.2.0-devel' vs '24.0.9-0ubuntu0.1')" [13:44] tomreyn how can we ensure the back up runs as "root"? [13:44] SamuelMarks: instead of removing packages which are part of ubuntu (and should not have been altered by other *packages*, i.e. .deb's installed using apt or otherwise), you can inspect what packages you installed recently and focus on removing those. [13:44] tomreyn: yeah I just did that (35GB of packages were autoremoved) [13:45] SamuelMarks: /var/log/apt/history.log should provide this information. [13:45] It seems there's so many options..1) what's the difference between "file" and "raw" back up and what does Clonezilla classed as? [13:45] noob37: by making whatever starts it run as user root, or via sudo. [13:45] Any recommendations on Utility tool from experience? [13:46] noob37: `dd` [13:46] vs `cp` [13:46] tomreyn Does that mean navigating to root in the file system and conducting from there? [13:46] samuelmarks what is dd vs cp? [13:47] SamuelMarks: jeez do not recommend dd for backup [13:48] noob37: i assume 'raw' backup would refer to something like a partition backup, covering all the blocks that are assigned to this partition, such as "dd" could do. i think clonezilla can operate in this mode but can also mount the file system on the partition and only backup the files in there., which is usually less data and faster. generally, if you don'T know what you want, you probably want a file backup using tar. [13:50] tomreyn okay - so use Tar to back up to folder and then back up this folder to external hard drive or rsync? [13:50] I installed sway [13:50] xd [13:50] I do like the idea of a system-wide back up for settings etc that presumably clonezilla does [13:50] noob37: i recommend using borg backup, with borgmatic. but this, too, involves reading up on it, understanding what it does and what its requirements are, and how it operates, testing the backup AND restore process. [13:50] how much does sway need in ram on ubuntu [13:50] Also, any recommendation of clonezilla over deja dup or vice versa? [13:51] tomreyn cool, thanks - will look into borgmatic [13:51] So much to learn about and figure out it's kind of mind boggling [13:52] I'm also trying to learn what the best way to back everything up to switch into a new distro once I decide to do so [13:53] noob37: if you are using gnome, and want to keep it easy to use, look into pika, which is a gnome shell-extension front end to borg backup. but you still need to understand how it works, and know how you'd recover if you have no GUI. [13:53] hell nah sway in a vm is a hell [13:53] Ended up going nuclear: `sudo apt purge libegl-mesa0` then all these qt and KDE deps to remove then even `sudo apt purge mesa* ubuntu-desktop` [13:53] `autoremove` and rebooted into tty1 (terminal only) [13:53] Installed `ubuntu-desktop` and now everything is gucci [13:54] cool thanks tomreyn [13:54] I even have LibreOffice now! - Been a long time since that worked (I was on betas of 24.04) [13:54] note that pika is not availabele in ubuntu, or it wasn't last time i checked [13:54] but it shoud be available from the gnome shell extension repository [13:56] sudo usermod -aG libvirt simon how to revert this comand? [13:57] noob37: actually pika isn't available on the gnome shell extensions online repository, but here: https://apps.gnome.org/PikaBackup/ [13:58] ubuntu + flatpaks don'T go together too well, though [13:58] tomreyn it's all very fascinating [13:59] Yeah..have been reading about flatpaks and snaps and some of the complexities or complications it's caused [13:59] Seems a lot of people are not fond of snap [13:59] simon_: the same man page explains how to remove a user off a supplementary group [14:00] damn I am allmost dragged to install ubuntu on my desktop pc, but there runs windows at the moment [14:01] and I need windows for gaming [14:01] xd [14:01] WSL. It's bad, but better than no linux [14:02] simon_: most steam windows games run fine with proton nowdays, see https://www.protondb.com/ [14:02] you can always partition; I do [14:03] yeah partition would be better, if the bootloader isn't too awkward [14:04] steam works on linux but maybe you'd go for a reversable migration [14:05] I only have 200 gb :( [14:06] steam absolutely sucks on linux [14:07] the steam console platform runs on linux [14:07] "only" 200 GB ^^; [14:07] danza: one hame has nowadays 200 gb [14:07] 60* gb [14:07] game* [14:08] not all games are i would hope [14:12] danza the code base of the games grew to infinite [14:12] ahahaha that's the media assets === five6184803399 is now known as five618480339 === aprompt is now known as xrandr_laptop [15:24] ok I have dual boot uwuntu now [15:24] xd [16:18] I need some assistance where to see my uuid and where to put it to adapt a new disk to my pc [16:19] simon_: I'd start with reading the blkid and fstab manpages [16:20] is /dev/disk/by-uuid/f8ea1257-9646-4d85-984b-708f533c76c2 /home/simon/uwunto ext4 default 0 2 [16:20] good? [16:21] what do you mean "good" [16:21] by the way I wrote it will it mount my second disk? [16:22] if the uuid points to that disk, and its formatted ext4, yes it should [16:25] mount: /home/simon/Uwuntu: Wrong file system type, invalid options, superblock of /dev/sda5 is corrupted, missing encoding page or other error. [16:25] dmesg(1) may have more information after failed mount system call. [16:26] any idea? [16:27] is there really an ext4 filesystem there? [16:27] yes [16:27] is sda5 really the device you intended? [16:27] yes [16:27] like the error says... whats in dmesg [16:27] is it already mounted? [16:28] simon_: pastebin the out from the command "blkid" please [16:29] https://pastebin.com/VbpMGVwd [16:32] uwunto 🤣 [16:32] can I also try UUID=f8ea1257-9646-4d85-984b-708f533c76c2 /home/simon/Uwuntu ext4 default 0 2 [16:33] you can. but mounting a whole system into your home dir is not that great. you wont have access to most of it probably if you browse it as your user [16:33] ok and how to fix it [16:33] ? [16:33] I mean where can I mount [16:34] use /mnt/uwuntu for example [16:35] simon_> mount: /home/simon/Uwuntu: Wrong file system type, invalid options, superblock of /dev/sda5 is corrupted, missing encoding page or other error. [16:35] dmesg(1) may have more information after failed mount system call. [16:35] still this error [16:36] default is not a valid mount option [16:37] ravage it is somehow mounted on /media/simon/f8ea1257-9646-4d85-984b-708f533c76c2 already [16:38] that is possible yes [16:38] you probably clicked on it in nautilus [16:38] or it auto mounts there [16:38] yes [16:39] hmm need to reboot because I kicked it out [16:39] xd [16:41] ravage, can I somehow link the filesystem to another folder for example [16:42] Why not mount it where you want it ? [16:42] how to do that [16:42] And the Google term you are looking for is symlink [16:43] ln -sf /media/simon/f8ea1257-9646-4d85-984b-708f533c76c2/ /home/simon/Uwuntu/ [16:43] like this [16:44] nice [16:44] I think it works [16:44] xD [16:52] simon_: I would highly recommend mounting your drive to /home/simon/Uwuntu instead [16:53] leftyfb, what I thought I did that [16:53] xd [16:54] no, you have it mounted to /media/simon/f8ea1257-9646-4d85-984b-708f533c76c2/ and then symlinked to /home/simon/Uwuntu/ [16:54] can you tell me how I can revert what I did [16:54] 44 sudo chown -c $USER /home/simon/Uwuntu/f8ea1257-9646-4d85-984b-708f533c76c2 [16:54] 45 sudo chown -cR simon:simon ~/Uwuntu/f8ea1257-9646-4d85-984b-708f533c76c2 [16:54] 46 history [16:55] I also did these [16:55] rm /home/simon/Uwuntu [16:55] simon_: https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mount-drive-from-command-line-ubuntu-linux/ [16:55] and how to mount this thing then to another location ? heh [17:02] funny now I can use simplex in a vm [17:02] xd [17:02] is it safu? [17:02] meanwhile my snap runs fine without any VM 😛 [17:03] your snap for simplex? [17:04] yes i told you i built one [17:04] can I build it too? [17:04] if you know how to setup snapcraft then yes [17:05] I have no clue [17:05] xd [17:05] is it hard [17:05] or not [17:06] https://snapcraft.io/docs [17:06] https://snapcraft.io/docs/snapcraft [17:07] hello [17:07] uu [17:09] ravage can you tell me how many commands you used [17:09] xd [17:10] https://p.haxxors.com/simplexchat.yml [17:12] ravage can you upload this pkg on snap=) [17:12] no not yet [17:20] anyways vm works too ravage [17:21] maybe I should get your snap in the vm [17:21] XDD [17:22] or is this an overkill? [17:28] ravage, does lubuntu has a firewall installed? [17:28] no [17:29] should I install a firewall before trying simplex? [17:29] all ubuntus have a firewall installed, without active rules [17:29] how to activate the firewall [17:29] simon_: is your computer behind a router? [17:29] I build it my self [17:30] built what? [17:30] ohh you mean which router I have? [17:30] fritzbox [17:30] you don't need a firewall [17:32] so I am safe and set up to try simplex? [17:32] inside a vm? :D [17:32] safe from what? [17:33] from virus [17:33] firewalls don't prevent you from getting viruses [17:33] I basically dont trust simplex, because they said safe messenger [17:34] if you don't trust an application, then don't install it [17:34] leftyfb, but the app on google play store is really good [17:35] simon_: feel free to chat about security in #security [17:35]