| slimacks | hello | 00:42 |
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| justme_ | Hi just wanna update on my kernel issue. Thankfully got a friend around the server today and we got it booted on a earlier kernel version and now the virtualbox is able to start the vm's works again. I do have also found out that thankfully I werent the only one facing the issue | 00:57 |
| justme_ | https://www.reddit.com/r/virtualbox/comments/1e5bmj0/heads_up_latest_kernel_update_on_some_ubuntumint/ | 00:57 |
| justme_ | So now the server is set to always boot on the earlier kernel at least for now. and thank you all for the help with the guide links | 00:59 |
| tomreyn | justme_: i haven't followed or don't remember the earlier conversation. virtualbox is a desktop virtualization software - if you want something to run on servers, you should consider qemu instead. | 01:23 |
| tomreyn | (this said, it's nice that you found a temporary workaround to the issue you ran into. if those are ubuntu virtualbox packages, you might want to file a bug against those.) | 01:25 |
| leftyfb | or lxd, especially if you only need server "vm's | 01:25 |
| justme_ | tomreyn well the reason that it's virtualbox headless on that ubuntu server is because its just a few smaller vm's ( and have planned because of this situation to move three of them to docker ). | 01:29 |
| justme_ | and since the server there is the host also is used to alot other things on the bare metal. And about Qemu tbh I have never been able to figure it out so that was why it olways just stayed on the virtualbox headless ( also since its not public accessable ) | 01:29 |
| justme_ | tomreyn I feel it would be wrong of me to file a bug on it since that branch of virtualbox reached EoL january this year and the only reason I'm staying on it for now is that there arent prober remote management tools for the headless in the newer version | 01:36 |
| justme_ | but yeah I'm also looking into both moving the two windows vm's and one linux desktop vm to another virtulisation platform like possible learning qemu | 01:36 |
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| tomreyn | justme_: if you can be bothered to configure your guest systems (containers and VMs) using a CLI, incus is probably a good choice, since it can manage either: https://linuxcontainers.org/incus/ | 01:43 |
| tomreyn | libvirt also can do so to some degree, though, IIRC, and it's the usual companion to quemu, plus it also offers a GUI you can use remotely from your desktop via SSH. | 01:44 |
| tomreyn | *qemu | 01:44 |
| leftyfb | tomreyn: I would recommend LXD over incus. Incus is only available in the noble repos | 01:45 |
| leftyfb | lxd added back in other OS's as part of it's images which was the only advantage incus had over LXD for a bit. The only reason for incus at this point is for childish politics | 01:46 |
| justme_ | tomreyn thank you very much I will defiantely take a look. And I have no problem at all to configure over ssh the only issue I just had with virtualbox were purely I were used to their gui though when I create vm's that is done from the terminal. | 01:50 |
| justme_ | leftyfb gotcha, thanks for that info. I'll defiantely take a look at both | 01:50 |
| leftyfb | justme_: sudo snap install lxd ; lxd init ; lxc launch ubuntu:24.04 myfirstcontainer | 01:51 |
| leftyfb | justme_: 3 commands and you're running a container | 01:51 |
| justme_ | ohh a snap well then it's a no thanks unfortunately | 01:53 |
| leftyfb | justme_: yeah, I also had when my packages work fine and are more secure | 01:53 |
| leftyfb | had/hate | 01:54 |
| justme_ | sure it's more secure but it gives also a extreme IO overrhead and slows the systems so no thanks its a thing I always uninstall | 01:55 |
| leftyfb | false | 01:55 |
| justme_ | since it's so poorly optimized even when it arent used | 01:55 |
| justme_ | actually it's true I literally feel the slow down and mesured with time commands the additianal disk IO overhead | 01:56 |
| justme_ | like on my desktop jjust by installing 1 snap program and not even having it started there were a 5% slowdown from the aditional mounts etc that it uses all times | 01:57 |
| justme_ | so snapd is always removed as the first and blocked in apt | 01:58 |
| tomreyn | fwiw, incus is packaged via apt. but 24.04+ only, as lefty mentioned. | 02:00 |
| justme_ | tomreyn actually found out that the main developer has released a repo for 22.04 so think I'm gonna try it on a spare server first just to learn it | 02:03 |
| realivanjx | do i need to install the package watchdog if i use system.conf watchdog configurations? | 03:19 |
| realivanjx | if not then how do i apply the changes there | 03:19 |
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| realivanjx6 | weird that after making sure iTCO_wdt isnt in modprobe blacklist and adding it to /etc/modules, it still wont load automatically after reboot | 03:56 |
| realivanjx6 | had to use the crontab @reboot | 03:57 |
| realivanjx6 | is /etc/modules ignored on ubuntu? | 03:57 |
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| sam_wong | Sorry, simply test connection | 04:16 |
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| fazio83 | good morning I can speak in italian? | 07:06 |
| CosmicDJ | fazio83: try one of the local ubuntu channels https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 07:06 |
| fazio83 | buongiorno qualcuno parla italiano? | 07:08 |
| fazio83 | in questo canale | 07:08 |
| fazio83 | qualcuno mi può rispondere? | 07:09 |
| fazio83 | I have as system feren os | 07:09 |
| fazio83 | firefox is slow whitch browser light I can install on this pc? | 07:10 |
| realivanjx | are you using gnome? maybe switch to lighter DE | 07:15 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:49 |
| tuxick | "Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:443" is this a joke? | 13:06 |
| CosmicDJ | tuxick: I bet you never had any downtime whatsoever | 13:07 |
| tuxick | you mean they occasionaly do allow https? | 13:08 |
| ioria | i did not know archive.ubuntu.com was an https 443 | 13:08 |
| tuxick | but why not? | 13:09 |
| ioria | ask them | 13:09 |
| tuxick | picked a mirror that does do https | 13:11 |
| geirha | the deb packages don't contain anything sensitive that requires encryption to hide, and the package lists are pgp signed, so you'll get an error message if a mitm tries to send you modified packages | 13:14 |
| tuxick | yes, i agree it's false sense of security | 13:17 |
| lotuspsychj3 | https://status.canonical.com/ | 13:17 |
| lotuspsychj3 | no incidents today | 13:17 |
| tuxick | but i'm dealing with on-premise servers managed by people who mess around with firewalls | 13:17 |
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| Bert | Anyone here using Ubuntu 24.04 and Totem? I've noticed that when I scroll inside a video file I constantly get "Internal data stream error" and I've noticed issues with other gstreamer players too. I'm trying to figure out if this is a universal issue in the 24.04 version of gstreamer or some kind of curse on specifically my install | 13:53 |
| lotuspsychj3 | wich filetype are you trying to play Bert | 13:55 |
| Bert | lotuspsychj3: mkv Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'test_gstreamer.mkv': | 13:58 |
| lotuspsychj3 | did you install any plugins for totem | 13:59 |
| Bert | Stream #0:0(eng): Video: h264 (High), yuv420p(progressive), 1920x820 [SAR 1:1 DAR 96:41], 23.98 fps, 23.98 tbr, 1k tbn (default) Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: dts (DTS), 48000 Hz, 5.1(side), fltp, 1536 kb/s (default) Stream #0:2(eng): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 224 kb/s | 13:59 |
| Bert | lotuspsychj3: I did "sudo apt install totem" and used it as is | 13:59 |
| Bert | I was using xplayer and clapper before, noticed a bug in there, and wanted to see if I could replicate it in totem, but totem seems worse off :P | 13:59 |
| lotuspsychj3 | i cant even seem to play any movie (on 24.04 totem) | 14:00 |
| Bert | yeah it seems extremely broken | 14:00 |
| Bert | I think there's something really not right with Ubuntu 24.04's gstreamer | 14:00 |
| Bert | but no one seems to have noticed, which is very odd | 14:00 |
| Bert | lotuspsychj3: are you getting some kind of error or is it just frozen? | 14:01 |
| aberrant | morning all. I installed clangd-15 but `clangd` is still showing not found - `clangd-15` works. What's the proper way to create the necessary aliases? | 14:01 |
| lotuspsychj3 | Bert: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/totem/+bugs?orderby=importance&start=0 | 14:01 |
| lotuspsychj3 | lets see if your/my bug is in here | 14:01 |
| Bert | lotuspsychj3: there are no bugs filed against noble | 14:02 |
| Bert | that's why I came to ask :P | 14:02 |
| Bert | what player does base Ubuntu ship with by default? Celluloid? | 14:03 |
| lotuspsychj3 | mpv i think | 14:03 |
| Bert | yeah Celluloid is an mpv frontend | 14:03 |
| lotuspsychj3 | file a new bug Bert | 14:05 |
| lotuspsychj3 | and ill see if i can reproduce | 14:06 |
| Bert | yeah, I wanted to be sure it wasn't just me before filing a bug | 14:06 |
| Bert | do I file bugs against all the players I have weird bugs in, then also file a gstreamer bug? | 14:06 |
| lotuspsychj3 | it surely seems borked on my side | 14:06 |
| Bert | I'm quite sure it's an underlying gstreamer issue | 14:06 |
| lotuspsychj3 | 3 videos dont play here | 14:07 |
| Bert | things play for me but once I scroll it just errors and stops | 14:07 |
| lotuspsychj3 | maybe we need to install some codecs first | 14:08 |
| Bert | those should be dependencies | 14:08 |
| Bert | and I have nice, bad and ugly installed | 14:09 |
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| Bert | afaik it should give you a message if it doesn't know how to play the file | 14:13 |
| lotuspsychj3 | Bert: i install ubuntu-restricted-extras and the bad plugins, now its playing | 14:15 |
| lotuspsychj3 | cant reproduce by scrolling | 14:15 |
| Bert | so you don't get any errors at all? | 14:16 |
| lotuspsychj3 | no | 14:16 |
| lotuspsychj3 | totem[1883201]: Missing plugin: gstreamer|1.0|totem|E-AC-3 (ATSC A/52B) decoder|decoder-audio/x-eac3 (E-AC-3 (ATSC A/52B) decoder | 14:16 |
| lotuspsychj3 | from journal | 14:16 |
| lotuspsychj3 | but not in totems window | 14:17 |
| Bert | This seems to be a specific file | 14:17 |
| lotuspsychj3 | keep a journalctl -f open while messing with totem, see if you can catch something | 14:19 |
| Bert | can you specifically try an mkv file, lotuspsychj3? | 14:19 |
| lotuspsychj3 | Bert: if you share it and its legal sure | 14:20 |
| Bert | sadly these are movies | 14:21 |
| Bert | I obtained them legally but I can't share them legally | 14:21 |
| lotuspsychj3 | you cant share warez here indeed | 14:21 |
| Bert | it's against my principles too :P | 14:21 |
| lotuspsychj3 | scrolling with mouse makes it lag a bit on some here Bert | 14:22 |
| Bert | lotuspsychj3: oh you should aggresively scroll back and forth with mouse and the arrow keys | 14:24 |
| Bert | it takes some effort but at some point things will freeze | 14:24 |
| lotuspsychj3 | lets see | 14:24 |
| Bert | or video will but audio will continue to work | 14:24 |
| Bert | that's the underlying bug I've been trying to catch | 14:24 |
| Bert | the one I'm getting with mkv is seemingly unrelated | 14:24 |
| Bert | but the scrolling one I get on every single gstreamer player | 14:25 |
| Bert | I've been able to replicate it on clapper and xplayer too | 14:25 |
| Bert | not on gtk4-demo but that might be because it's implemented very differently | 14:25 |
| lotuspsychj3 | totem[1884229]: No installation candidate for missing plugins found. | 14:26 |
| lotuspsychj3 | cant seem to invoke more errors | 14:26 |
| Bert | I guess I'm gonna have to dig deeper | 14:27 |
| lotuspsychj3 | start totem from terminal Bert | 14:28 |
| rain | ? | 14:28 |
| lotuspsychj3 | see if something spits out | 14:28 |
| Bert | lotuspsychj3: I always launch it from the terminal but it never says anything | 14:31 |
| Bert | so if I open https://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/big_buck_bunny_720p_h264.mov in the terminal and I scroll to the end and scroll back and forth, unpause then scroll a little more it freezes even though it thinks it's playing | 14:32 |
| Bert | this is similar to the problems I see in xplayer and clapper, but is seemingly unrelated to the totem-specific issue I have with MKVs | 14:32 |
| Bert | lotuspsychj3: ah interesting, the Internal data stream error is a subtitle problem | 14:40 |
| Bert | it autoselects danish and gets confused by that, somehow | 14:40 |
| Bert | gotta go but I will get to the bottom of this lotuspsychj3! | 14:45 |
| lotuspsychj3 | okay good luck! | 14:45 |
| Bert | Thanks, I'll try and remember to mention you here with the launchpad links :) | 14:47 |
| lotuspsychj3 | use ubuntu-bug packagename Bert | 14:48 |
| Bert | I already did for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/livi/+bug/2076098 no worries :) | 14:49 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2076098 in livi (Ubuntu) "Livi crashes on startup with livi_gst_paintable_video_renderer_create_video_sink: assertion failed" [Undecided, New] | 14:49 | |
| lotuspsychj3 | lets see | 14:54 |
| lotuspsychj3 | seems to work on gnome for me Bert | 14:55 |
| Bert | I'm guessing it's a dependency issue for livi | 14:56 |
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| belovedsandworm | shit. have to update ubuntu | 17:11 |
| belovedsandworm | pray for me broethers | 17:11 |
| junyx | belovedsandworm om mani padme hum | 17:14 |
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| xbox | Yooo | 17:53 |
| lotuspsychj3 | welcome xbox | 17:53 |
| xbox | Question what are some good apps for 10.0 ubuntu i can install via sudo apt | 17:54 |
| lotuspsychj3 | 10.0 ? | 17:54 |
| xbox | yes im running it on my xbox 360, FREE60 which is based off old ubuntu lol | 17:55 |
| leftyfb | xbox: sorry, but we cannot support that here | 17:56 |
| xbox | can do thanks anyways | 17:56 |
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| alex__ | Hello. I hope I've come to the right place. If I wanted to build my own linux distro, where's the best place to start? | 18:51 |
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| enigma9o7 | Well, probably not the right place, since this is Ubuntu support. You may wanna start with something like LFS. | 20:16 |
| rain | ???!=)**** | 21:15 |
| rain | -25 | 21:16 |
| rain | tamtamtamtam | 21:16 |
| oerheks | hello rain, do you have an ubuntu support issue? lets not type random messages again. | 21:17 |
| rain | hello | 21:17 |
| bprompt | !topic | rain | 21:18 |
| ubottu | rain: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic | 21:18 |
| rain | hi! i have ubuntu studio 24.04lts 6.8.0-39-lowlatency (64-bittinen) G x11 !discovery doesn't not work and it does not opens | 21:20 |
| enigma9o7 | How are you trying to open !discovery | 21:21 |
| Eickmeyer | rain: Known bug, check the release notes, linked on the Ubuntu Studio website. | 21:22 |
| enigma9o7 | Also, what is !discovery and how did you install it? | 21:22 |
| Eickmeyer | Also has a workaround in the release notes. | 21:22 |
| Eickmeyer | Lesson: Always read release notes when encountering issues. | 21:23 |
| enigma9o7 | Eickmeyer is brilliant cuz he reads docs. | 21:23 |
| Eickmeyer | enigma9o7: I wrote the docs | 21:23 |
| enigma9o7 | Ah, I guess it was too much to imagine someone actually reading them, my mistake. | 21:24 |
| Eickmeyer | Nah. I just see people come in with a problem like that and it's obvious they didn't try to find help for themselves first. | 21:25 |
| rain | $~ | 21:35 |
| rain | > | 21:35 |
| Aavar | I dont like not being able to edit /etc/resolv.conf on my server and having a nameserver running on localhost. Is the right way to change this to stop and disable the service systemd-resolvd and replace /etc/resolv.conf? | 21:48 |
| leftyfb | Aavar: edit your netplan config | 21:49 |
| leftyfb | that's the proper way to configure your nameserver(s) | 21:50 |
| Aavar | leftyfb: I understand, but is that the right way if I don't want the localhost nameserver? | 21:50 |
| Aavar | (like the way it is in debian for example) | 21:51 |
| leftyfb | Aavar: if you like the way Debian is, don't change anything as it's exactly the same setup | 21:53 |
| leftyfb | I just spun up this Debian 12 container https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kYFcTMvjNk/ | 21:54 |
| leftyfb | except they're not using netplan. But systemd-resolved is running the caching server | 21:55 |
| Aavar | leftyfb: it is not. I just ran a clean debian install and /etc/resolv.conf has my nameserver. Not localhost | 21:56 |
| leftyfb | Aavar: the Debian 12 container I just installed 1 minute ago would disagree with you | 21:56 |
| Aavar | leftyfb: does it matter? | 21:56 |
| leftyfb | Aavar: either way, when I type "ubuntu disable systemd-resolved" into google, one of the first links is https://gist.github.com/zoilomora/f7d264cefbb589f3f1b1fc2cea2c844c which should work for you | 21:57 |
| Aavar | leftyfb: thank you. I think that is exactly what I am looking for :D | 21:58 |
| Aavar | only... I am not using network manager... | 21:59 |
| leftyfb | then ignore that 1 change | 22:00 |
| Aavar | ok, thank you | 22:00 |
| rain | T | 22:18 |
| ahh_ | chathispano.com | 22:42 |
| Paul_J_2024 | Hi All, i'm trying to install gtk+ 4 and i keep getting an error which I have not been able to find a way around online | 22:42 |
| enigma9o7 | Perhaps if you share that error here, someone may be able to help you Paul_J_2024 ? | 22:46 |
| oerheks | !info libgtk-4-dev | 22:47 |
| ubottu | libgtk-4-dev (4.14.2+ds-1ubuntu1, noble): development files for the GTK library. In component main, is optional. Built by gtk4. Size 918 kB / 12,413 kB | 22:47 |
| enigma9o7 | Or if you're just looking for sympathy, sorry to hear that, I know web searching can be rough. | 22:47 |
| Paul_J_2024 | subprojects/gobject-introspection/tools/meson.build:42:10: ERROR: Tried to override finding of executable "g-ir-scanner" which has already been found. | 22:47 |
| Paul_J_2024 | To give you background, I'm trying to rebuild Meld from the github source code, I used it before but when I installed it on this machine, i get an error when loading it. So I thought maybe if i can build it from the source like I do when I install HandBrake, maybe it'll make it work, this is not proving as easy as I had hoped | 22:56 |
| SamuelMarks | hi | 22:59 |
| SamuelMarks | My poor poor CPUs can't handle my screen :( - 70% average with just irssi and System Monitor running | 22:59 |
| SamuelMarks | AMD driver install didn't fix anything. Suggestions? - Happy to try another distribution | 23:00 |
| oerheks | Paul_J_2024, not sure meld supports yet gtk+4 https://meldmerge.org/ | 23:00 |
| SamuelMarks | `diff`erent strokes | 23:01 |
| oerheks | we do have the latest stable https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meld | 23:01 |
| oerheks | on noble, that is | 23:01 |
| Paul_J_2024 | Samuel, what processor etc do u have, i'm running Ubuntu on a HP Mini-PC and a Gaming PC connected to a 48" 4K and both run smooth | 23:04 |
| Paul_J_2024 | Oer I have that package, when i try to build that I get meson.build:19:0: ERROR: Dependency "gtk+-3.0" not found, tried pkgconfig and cmake | 23:05 |
| enigma9o7 | Have you tried installing the dependency? | 23:05 |
| Paul_J_2024 | But my system insists GTK+ 3.0 is installed, was hoping upgrading the GTK might fix it | 23:05 |
| enigma9o7 | libgtk-3-dev | 23:05 |
| Paul_J_2024 | libgtk-3-dev is already the newest version (3.24.41-4ubuntu1.1). | 23:06 |
| SamuelMarks | Paul_J_2024: I have a Alienware Alienware m17 R5 AMD with AMD Ryzen™ 9 6900HX with Radeon™ Graphics × 16 and 32GiB of RAM connected to builtlin laptop screen | 23:07 |
| enigma9o7 | it doesn't tell you an actual file it's looking for eh? | 23:07 |
| SamuelMarks | You can try `ldd`? | 23:07 |
| leftyfb | SamuelMarks: did you check your BIOS to see if your discrete GPU is maybe disabled? | 23:08 |
| SamuelMarks | leftyfb: no because my GPU works fine on Windows (dual boot) | 23:08 |
| enigma9o7 | did you instal the build depends for meld package? | 23:08 |
| SamuelMarks | I also checked all the updates to confirm | 23:08 |
| enigma9o7 | sudo apt build-dep meld | 23:08 |
| leftyfb | SamuelMarks: just because you have video on Windows doesn't mean it's using the discrete GPU | 23:08 |
| SamuelMarks | ok let me double-check; I mean I was able to load LLMs into my GPU on WIndows alos | 23:09 |
| * SamuelMarks reboot | 23:09 | |
| leftyfb | LLM's will work without a discrete GPU | 23:09 |
| Paul_J_2024 | Enigma, yeah I ran that, still get the GTK+ error, but the system insists it's installed, tried purging it and re-instaling it, feel like i'm losing my mind lol | 23:11 |
| SamuelMarks | ok so it was all enabled | 23:12 |
| SamuelMarks | I tried disabling hybrid graphics and rebooting and my CPUs are slightly higher load than before now | 23:13 |
| leftyfb | SamuelMarks: at this point, you've been dealing with this for weeks. I'm willing to bet a fresh install will resolve your issue | 23:14 |
| SamuelMarks | Pop_os is almost out with a rust de; maybe I'll try that then | 23:15 |
| oerheks | firmware update manager .. | 23:15 |
| leftyfb | SamuelMarks: good luck. Pop_OS isn't supported here | 23:15 |
| SamuelMarks | neither is my hefty laptop running Ubuntu 24.04 :( | 23:16 |
| leftyfb | SamuelMarks: running a broken install of 24.04 | 23:16 |
| leftyfb | SamuelMarks: try a fresh install | 23:16 |
| SamuelMarks | Ok I'll backup my web-browser profiles first | 23:17 |
| SamuelMarks | Wait does the latest ubuntu installer handle the case of overwriting just the /usr, /etc, /var, /bin but not user profiles and whatever | 23:19 |
| leftyfb | SamuelMarks: you already tried a new user and said it didn't make a difference | 23:19 |
| leftyfb | the whole point of the new install is to start from scratch. Once everything is working the way you want, then restore your files | 23:19 |
| leftyfb | also, please tell me you don't have separate partitions for everything | 23:20 |
| SamuelMarks | leftyfb: nah just two partitions; NTFS and ext4 | 23:20 |
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