=== chris14_ is now known as chris14 === JanC is now known as Guest9089 === keypushe- is now known as keypusher [01:35] I just installed Ubuntu Server 24.04 on a new machine that has 120 GB of storage but it seems I'm missing almost half the storage when I do df -h: https://bpa.st/HSBA [01:43] hey folks i'm wondering if anybody can point me to a coherent guide for upgrading a machine from o-g bios to uefi [01:44] i.e., i have an old laptop and i want to move its drive to a newer laptop with uefi and have it be otherwise functionally identical [01:45] like i'm all good resizing partitions and stuff but i don't know what to do after that [01:57] my current plan is to boot the machine with a kali live usb, back up the partition, do the resizing, then ??? [01:57] remove the drive, put it in the new machine, boot _that_ with kali? i dunno === mrbutthead5 is now known as mrbutthead [02:02] dorian: you can install uefi ubuntu then replace /home assuming they are the same version of ubuntu [02:03] replace /home on the new computer [02:03] oh, i'm just keeping the same system [02:04] i just don't know what to do about the booting part [02:04] i just don't know how to install the uefi firmware or do any cryptographic tpm shenanigans or whatever [02:04] https://askubuntu.com/questions/913397/how-to-change-ubuntu-install-from-legacy-to-uefi [02:04] oh, wonderful [02:05] (weirdly that didn't come up for me) [02:05] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [02:05] thanks [02:06] Ok this worked for me in order to extend my drive to use the full ~120GB in case anyone is searching the channel logs later for a solution: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1269493/how-to-make-lv-use-all-disk-space-in-pv === antonispgs3 is now known as antonispgs [03:25] I've got a really strange situation. I have been playing around with an old netbook that has an unusual feature allowing the display backlight to be turned off. Before Linux loads, this can be accomplished with a hotkey. The hotkey does not function after Linux loads. In older versions of Ubuntu (I've tested 12.04), I've found that I can turn it off with the command "setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=00". But in more modern [03:25] versions (e.g. 22.04), this does nothing. Is there a way to accomplish this on the newer versions? [03:26] iHi, if you do a lspci do you see the backlit controller? [03:29] I see the integrated graphics in both versions with 00:02.0 [03:32] have you updated microcode for the corresponding kernel version? [03:33] I would try a modern live usb boot and see if updating drivers or microcode/firmware helps [03:34] I've only been using live versions thus far to test this. The machine (temporarily) does not have a fixed disk right now [03:34] I see on your second line that you already tried that [03:37] I think is related to the way the different video drivers point to the actual backlit controller features [03:45] Soy_el_Pulpo: Is there anything I can try? [03:46] do you have the model of the machine? [03:47] It's a Samsung NP-N150. The CPU is an Intel Atom N550. [03:48] I have an IBM netbook from the same era. Atom processor and I use Lubuntu [03:48] everything works, including the alt keys for controlling sound and so on [03:49] give it a try [03:49] The normal things like controlling sound and the backlight level work here too. Just not turning the backlight completely off [03:51] I see. If you dim to the lowest setting it may turn off? [03:51] It doesn't [03:51] I see [03:51] even outside of Linux, that doesn't happen. A separate hotkey toggles it [03:52] and that one does not work? [03:52] Correct. That doesn't work in any version. I found a way to do it with the command line that works in older releases of Ubuntu, but not current ones [03:55] the key that toggles on/off is the F4 key by any chance? [03:56] list [03:58] Soy_el_Pulpo: No. F4 refers to the register that setpci is changing [03:58] Some_Person take a look to this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/152980/how-to-control-keyboard-backlight-using-hotkeys [03:58] I'm not talking about a keyboard backlight. This is the backlight for the display [03:59] And I already poked around /sys. Was not able to do anything other than what the brightness slider already did [03:59] but maybe the uefi/efi part may have something to do with it [04:00] This machine does not support UEFI (or at least does not expose it) === sam__ is now known as Guest4523 [06:48] sarnold: good morning [06:48] Can I pm you ? === mrpond1 is now known as mrpond [08:26] Orange Beats the New Black [08:27] Hope everyones having a wonderful day [09:18] i need to liberate space for kernel building from ubuntu server sd image. i need nothing superfluous but there seems to be no any big applications to remove... === sotaoverride is now known as Guest5378 [11:55] ! [12:10] the latest LTS, 20.04, what's the third number so far? I mean, what is "x" in 20.04.x? [12:10] hello everybody, btw, and thanks to whomever will answer [12:12] We installed a web application server on Ubuntu 20.04 and created the following partitions: / (10GB), /boot (10GB), /home (10GB), and /var (60GB). We need to increase the /var partition by an additional 100GB using new hard disk space and needs to add the existing space 60GB. How can we achieve this scenario? and how to merge existing /var [12:12] partition and current extend /var partition [12:14] Hi [12:15] /msg alis help [12:15] Guest82: Do you need to do this while running? [12:16] Guest82: If the partition has free space directly following, you might be able to resize it and tell the kernel to reload, then resize the mounted filesystem. [12:16] help [12:18] Vijaykannan: with what? [12:21] We installed a web application server on Ubuntu 20.04 and created the following partitions: / (10GB), /boot (10GB), /home (10GB), and /var (60GB). We need to increase the /var partition by an additional 100GB using new hard disk space and needs to add the existing space 60GB. How can we achieve this scenario? and how to merge existing /var partition and current extend /var partition [12:23] Vijaykannan: there are several options, depending on whether you need to do it live or not, whether you currently use LVM (it helps a lot in this case), and whether your consumption is contained to a subdirectory in /var === ancientz5 is now known as ancientz [12:28] Hi all === fling_ is now known as fling === ancientz2 is now known as ancientz [12:55] Does Ubuntu desktop need separate driver installation for Graphic Cards? For example an ASUS ROG STRYX 2080? [13:02] Guddu: see https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/nvidia-drivers-installation [13:06] Thanks ananke === Casper26_ is now known as Casper26 [14:50] Was the point release delayed? [14:58] mandem0110: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble-numbat-24-04-1-lts-point-release-status-tracking/46972 [15:20] Hi all. Running 24.04, and having installed Thunderbird with apt-get install thunderbird, it has installed a Snap packaged version. When launching for the first time, it tries to "import" the existing profile. The profile is >50GB, so I'd like to move it where it needs to be rather than copy it. Where is it trying to copy it to? [15:24] lotuspsychj3: yes........ I remember it being said late July for the point release. [15:24] Now it's late August. [15:24] superboot: several snaps, the support is external and the volunteers cant advice much on it, for thunderbird snap visit; https://snapcraft.io/thunderbird [15:25] Ok, I'll try there. [15:26] superboot: the url links to mozilla bugs [15:27] lol [15:28] mandem0110: where did you see it was going to be july? [15:28] When it 24.04 released lotuspsychj3 [15:28] got an url? [15:28] No... [15:29] mandem0110: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/noble-numbat-release-schedule/35649 [15:30] lol bro is linking random links. nah. [15:32] bro is asking random AI questions :p [15:37] superboot: the 'import' may well do more than just copying your profile, since those thunderbird versions can differ, too. [15:38] snap data is stored in ~/snap [15:52] Ok, thanks. I'll see if I can get it to go again. I cancled it the first time, and now it doesn't want to go. [15:57] Personally I'd use the non snap version from mozillas repo === Dreamwea- is now known as DreamweaverN === bvi_ is now known as bvi === dTal_ is now known as dTal [16:31] Hi! I got an old computer with Ubuntu 14.04, I am trying to download a new distro to it, it gets internet through wifi using an wifi usb I bought online from china yeaes ago, its the only computer I got except my phone (that I share internet with to it). I have an usb ready [16:31] Sweet. [16:32] i dont have any other computer :S [16:32] One is usually enough. [16:33] right but internet is very slow through firefox [16:34] And all ssl etc is untrusted [16:34] Is there a question coming? === help123 is now known as help000 [16:37] Sorry, the nick was taken lmao [16:38] ssl doesn't work because your OS is so outdated [16:38] Question was - HP Compaq dc5800 Small Form Factor, best way to make it run in the modern world when my only tools is a 10 year old Ubuntu [16:38] just update your ubuntu [16:38] problem solved [16:38] sudo do-release-upgrade [16:38] Install new OS. [16:38] Clean install, don't tryto upgrade from 14.04, it'll take forever if its even still possible. [16:39] i second enigma9o7 [16:39] oki yolo [16:40] sudo do-release-upgrade? [16:41] no, do a fresh install using your usb stick [16:41] I have backups, so its no big deal [16:42] i'm not sure that this computer will work as a daily driver for an ubuntu desktop, though [16:42] I have none, only an old one, I wanted to see if it was possible to just download with it and get a new one [16:43] I have newer ones but it wont work with it [16:43] 32 or 64 bit ubuntu has come a long way but [16:44] 32-bit kinda stopped a while ago, if the machine is old enough to only have 32-bit, I wouldn't use old ubuntu, I'd use modern alternative (antix or something) [16:44] >sudo do-release-upgrade [16:45] done [16:45] those models have intel core 2 duo/quad cpus with GMA 3100 [16:45] lets see what happens [16:46] bets are off, that or I have to walk 1KM to ask for a computer [16:46] the base configuration comes with 2 GB RAM [16:47] DDR2 [16:47] meh, that didnt do anything [16:48] What is this [16:48] with a current ubuntu desktop as a daily driver, you usually want a minimum of 6GB RAM [16:48] !irc | yovan [16:48] yovan: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !Libera channels, see !Alis - See also !Guidelines [16:48] hmm, bad hint [16:49] yovan: this is the ubuntu support chat, on IRC, internet relay chat. [16:50] Thanks. I'm using Lubuntu a fresh install. Did not know you guys had a "chat". Thank you for the reply. [16:51] you're welcome. if you have questions regarding the Lubuntu graphical desktop and customizations, type /join #lubuntu here [16:52] /join #lubuntu [16:52] without the leading spaces [16:54] r [16:56] Hi. I have a question. I have an old laptop 8G RAM. Learning to code. Will need things like Java, NodeJS, VSCode, docker, etc installed. How can I limit memory consumption. I know its a vast topic but di you guys have any pointers? === PhoenixGuy is now known as labrador [17:00] yovan: i responded in #lubuntu. please do not cross-post the same question to multiple channels at the same time. [17:01] yovan: don't open stuff you don't need, close stuff you're not using. 8gb is plenty. === help123 is now known as somethingelse123 [17:07] ravage [17:07] https://simplex.chat/contact#/?v=2-6&smp=smp%3A%2F%2FZKe4uxF4Z_aLJJOEsC-Y6hSkXgQS5-oc442JQGkyP8M%3D%40smp17.simplex.im%2FzCjnzzXeAyOm5D6aU9k5z8saOa1DwEEX%23%2F%3Fv%3D1-3%26dh%3DMCowBQYDK2VuAyEA-6V8x7E9s1ZIwCfM433bNpt84EMqd7_coSWXv1N3mHs%253D%26srv%3Dogtwfxyi3h2h5weftjjpjmxclhb5ugufa5rcyrmg7j4xlch7qsr5nuqd.onion [17:07] can you add me pls on simplex [17:07] and send the video of yesterday [17:07] thanks [17:07] :) [17:08] launching simplex on phone and computer the same time is kinda a pain [17:08] so I have account for pc [17:10] guys is there drivers for a razzer mouse [17:10] ? [17:10] my mousewheel kinda buggy on ubuntu [17:11] it is not completly unuseable just buggy [17:11] try changing the mouse and see if same problem occurs [17:11] it is not the same on windows ;) [17:12] it is deathadder essential [17:14] you can often find tools on e.g. github which provide some level of support for non-standard features of special periphals such as "gaming" periphals. [17:14] https://openrazer.github.io/#ubuntu tomreyn can you tell me something about this [17:14] ? [17:14] it is a web page [17:16] but you cant say more? D: [17:16] what would you like me to say about it? [17:16] +telWHATSAPP [17:16] is it a safe source or not? [17:17] !! [17:17] paganbbs: please don't post random noise to this channel, thank you [17:17] ximon28: i do not know that [17:18] i waiting update for ubuntu studio discover! ...hpo it comes Fasd [17:18] ximon28: why not install from official ubuntu repo? [17:18] paganbbs: do you have an ubuntu support question, though? [17:18] enigma9o7 are these in ubuntu repo? [17:19] i writed before thaT discovery packet manager doesnt not work?? ? i have ubuntu studio 24.04... [17:19] besides checking yourself, did you read the page you linked? [17:20] "Starting with 20.04, OpenRazer is available from the official repositories." [17:20] enigma9o7 yes they tell to do sudo gpasswd -a $USER plugdev [17:22] yes i tried to read from ubuntu studio site and tried to update manual in terminal [17:22] paganbbs: if you have questions about the "discover" software, please ask in #ubuntustudio or in #kubuntu (but then point out you're actually using ubuntustudio) [17:23] if there are issues with sudo apt update or sudo apt full-upgrade we can also help diagnose this here [17:24] yes i wroted to studio channel -+-- and try these inputs .. [17:28] hmm somehow it still doesnt work properly the mouse on ubuntu [17:30] maybe mouse is for kernel [17:31] and after adding sudo apt install openrazer-daemon openrazer-doc openrazer-driver-dkms openrazer-meta python3-openrazer [17:31] my mouse feels slower now [17:31] xd [17:32] try configuring the software you just installed [17:32] 111 [17:34] tomereyn I have no clue how [17:34] :D [17:35] tomrey pim [17:35] ximon1: "After successful installation, reboot the computer and pick an application to interact with the driver." - have you done so? [17:35] i'm quoting the web page you had linked earlier [17:36] thank u [17:36] which software is interacting with the drivers? [17:36] ximon1: just read... https://openrazer.github.io/#apps [17:37] is some of the software available in ubuntu [17:37] snap or deb [17:37] ? [17:37] yes [17:38] openrazer and openrazer-meta packages are in ubuntu [17:39] I just pray that ubuntu doesn't do anything too retarded today [17:40] enigma9o7: i don't think any of these applications are included in these packages [17:41] all too hard for me [17:41] help [17:41] xd [17:41] there are man 5 razor and man 8 openrazor-daemon as well as /usr/share/openrazer/razer.conf.example though [17:42] cant you preconfigure razzer mouses on your os ? XD [17:43] belovedsandworm what stupid did ubuntu [17:43] xd [17:43] ubuntu best [17:43] they added simplex within a dday [17:44] ubuntu isolated apps via snap, which is good to not get infected by malicious stuff [17:44] or less likely [17:46] ximon1: you might want this: https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=hardware%3Arazer&package=razergenie [17:47] note that this would add a third party software repository to your apt configuration, which you would inherently trust [17:47] !ppa [17:47] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [17:47] this is not actually a PPA, but a separate third party apt repository, but the situation is similar. [17:48] https://pastebin.com/tmvJ9MBH tomreyn is this correct? [17:49] if you have chosen to accept this risk and run ubuntu 24.04, yes [17:49] E: Das Depot »http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/hardware:/razer/xUbuntu_24.04 InRelease« ist nicht signiert. [17:50] not signed [17:50] how to fix the error [17:50] ? [17:51] https://pastebin.com/Z1x2hxV0 [17:52] sudo apt install curl [17:52] curl -fsSL https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/hardware:razer/xUbuntu_24.04/Release.key | gpg --dearmor | sudo tee /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/hardware_razer.gpg > /dev/null [17:53] sudo apt update && sudo apt install razergenie [17:54] yup [17:54] hmm somehow still buggy mousewheel [18:02] so the strange thing is that the mouse buggs forth and back when scrolling in one direction [18:02] I tried on windows it is the same now [18:02] xd [18:04] sounds like a hardware issue. https://vtechinsider.com/how-to-fix-razer-mouse-scroll-wheel/ [18:04] we're far outside of ubuntu support here [18:10] ;( [18:10] good evening o/ [18:11] i have logitech 90- style mouse highend and logitech illuminated flat keyboard [18:11] could ubuntu on the same disk like windows conflict my windows? XD [18:12] good evening >< [18:12] to be specific my mouse on windows [18:12] No, as long as separate partitions, shouldn't matter. [18:12] alcatraz asic 6 mouse [18:13] there's no need to post your mouse models here unless you're looking for ubuntu support with them [18:13] ohhh... sumimasen [18:22] curled something, should have appeared under 'Downloads', however only popped up after I restarted the terminal, is this common behavior? [18:25] depends on how often you hallucinate [18:32] Hey there. I may have made a mistake that could bite me when I boot the computer the next time: [18:33] ugh, video editing in Linux, in things that aren't Resolve [18:33] I grabbed my latest updates and saw that I had three kernels afterwards. One of them said it was "auto-removable" and I figured it should, therefore, be safe to remove it. I ran sudo apt-get autoremove and let it do its thing. I'm worried by this message that it printed out as part of everything that it did: "Before uninstall, this module version was ACTIVE on this kernel." I ran the apt list --installed | grep "nvidia" command to che [18:33] is gone. It listed several files, but I'm not sure whether they're good news or bad news. [18:33] I pasted the output, including comments, to https://bpa.st/A4NQ and would greatly appreciate any help in how to figure out if everything is okay and/or how to make it okay again. [18:33] Elliria: you may need to reinstall your NVidia binary drivers [18:33] Yeah, that's what worries me. [18:33] it'll just use nouveau [18:34] which isn't terrible unless you're using massive shaders or need CUDA [18:34] I don't do really fancy graphic stuff. [18:34] gaming? [18:35] I do that on a Windows drive that I run independently of this one (they're both controlled by a mechanical switch, so they're completely disconnected when not in use). [18:35] I use NVidia cards and the binary driver because they're pretty much the only fully-supported GPU in Linux [18:36] I'm just hoping to put myself back the way I was before, but minus that extra kernel. [18:36] it should be fine [18:36] I opted in to let Ubuntu/NVIDIA manage my driver for me when I installed Kubuntu. I'm not sure if that makes a difference in how I would recover from this. [18:38] Is there a way to test if there's currently a module active on the current kernel? [18:38] [18:52] Hi, I think my boot partition has been curropted and I don't know what has triggered it [18:52] I have 2 installations, ubuntu and Windows, I used to be able to choose Windows from grub menu [18:52] but now I get invalid signature [18:53] but I'm able to boot to Windows from BIOS [18:53] Also, when I just restart from Win to ubuntu, NVIDIA drives fails to initiate so I have a rly big screen and internet is not working. If I shut down comp and restart it starts working [18:54] I don't know what caused the issue but I bet it's something Win has does [18:54] done* [20:16] tomreyn: Are you here? Regarding my issue yesterday with trying to passtrough my NIC to a VM. I dont think my motherboard supports VT-D. Are you able to confirm/deny if this is true for me? the motherboard in question is MSI b85m-g43. And could a BIOS upgrade fix this you think? [21:10] Aavar: VT-d is a CPU feature, which CPU do you have there? [21:15] tomreyn: i7-4770 [21:17] https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/75122/intel-core-i7-4770-processor-8m-cache-up-to-3-90-ghz.html Intel® Virtualization Technology for Directed I/O (VT-d) ‡ Yes [21:18] the bios option may also be called "iommu". it may not be available in case the system is set to (pre uefi) "legacy bios" "compatibility support mode (CST)" [21:19] tomreyn: I will have a look. [21:19] and yes, try a bios update if yours is outdated [21:22] https://iommu.info/mainboard/10 the board does have iommu support [21:25] to test whether it's already available, just run: dmesg | grep DMAR [21:25] tomreyn: I did try a bios-update, but the computer hangs after selecting the bios-file... Maybe I have to select a sligtly older bios or resort to a windows installation. Anyway, I am looking for options in the bios again :) [21:26] hmm, computer hanging on bios upgrade isn't good. if you can do it in windows, that's probably easier there. [21:27] journalctl -b | grep DMI: returns your current bios version [21:27] (don't omit the ":" ) [21:35] tomreyn: I cant find any of those settings in the bios... I am rebooting. [21:40] tomreyn: As I have stated earlier. I am doing this to create a Router in a VM. Is there a reason that I can't/shouldn't use a bridge? [21:41] no [21:42] journalctl -b | grep DMI: returns Aug 09 01:34:53 aa-srv3 kernel: DMI: MSI MS-7823/B85M-G43 (MS-7823), BIOS V3.0 04/16/2013 [21:42] well you'd have a bit more separation, keeping it out of the host. [21:44] tomreyn: Does this mean I have it enabled? https://bpa.st/SRNA [21:46] yes - DMAR-IR: Enabled IRQ remapping in x2apic mode [21:46] tomreyn: hmm... and it still does not work. [21:46] i'd still do the bios upgrade because it's an old board and cpu [21:47] "Note: You must use one of the following methods to update this BIOS. (a) Use MFlash to update "BIOS + ME" (b) Use MSI LiveUpdate" [21:47] that's 3.9 from 2015-04-15 [21:48] yes, thats the one I tried with MFlash. [21:50] https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B85m-G43/support#bios I see there is a update to the m-flash module on version 3.2. I will try that first. [21:51] I'm on Ubuntu Server 22.04 with HWE enabled. When 24.04.1 comes out and I upgrade, I assume that will turn off HWE (since afaik it doesn't happen till the .2 release?) [21:52] The upgrade should take care of that [21:52] You don't need to disable anything [21:54] awesome, thank you [22:00] Aavar: in the qemu guest configuration file, what do you have set as deviceType for the passthrough NIC? [22:01] it should say "vfio-pci" [22:03] tomreyn: there is no deviceType... https://bpa.st/IYEQ [22:04] tomreyn: https://i.imgur.com/uTQzSxa.png [22:04] ah sorry i may have mixed this up with something [22:04] tomreyn: ok :) [22:04] i guess this looks fine [22:05] tomreyn: Update didn't work with older versions. I think I'll bring a ssd with windows from work tomorrow and try to update the bios that way. If not, I will try with a bridge. Thank you so much for the help so far. I am going to bed :) [22:05] check also whether you have the iommu group listed in dmesg, as printed here https://iommu.info/mainboard/10 [22:05] okay, ttyl [22:05] good luck [22:06] there's yet another (but not officially supported) bios flashing tool for those boards: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/forum-usb-flashing-tool-%E2%9C%94.108079/ [22:06] but i guess you better stay with what's supported [22:07] plus this is windows-only, too [22:09] it's probably got something to do with the old cpu / board / bios: https://forum.level1techs.com/t/pcie-passthrough-not-supported/118055 [22:10] you can run sudo virt-host-validate to ensure all ingredients are there [22:12] https://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/noble/man1/virt-host-validate.1.html [22:14] tomreyn: thank you again. I will take note and read tomorrow :) [22:14] if it prints those WARN lines https://i.sstatic.net/VDxta.jpg then there's still an issue and you may need to pass kernel cmdline parameters iommu=1 intel_iommu=on [22:19] here's someone with a similar hardware setup - same board, similar cpu - where you could try to copy from: https://github.com/Muata/VFIO/wiki [22:21] they have bios version 3.9 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?title=PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF/Examples#Muata's_VFIO_setup [22:40] is there a way to download the source from which my ubuntu kernel package was created? [22:40] I'm trying to get a TP-Link USB Bluetooth Dongle to work [22:40] Yes. [22:40] apt source [22:40] and there is a guide claiming I have to patch a file within the kernel source [22:40] ok [22:41] install the devscripts package for lots of useful tools related to building/packaging it [22:43] I'll follow this: https://github.com/tedboudros/tplink-ub500-linux-patch-guide [22:43] though I get mixed results, some people claim it should work in my ubuntu 22.04 [22:43] though I'm on a 5.4.0-192-generic kernel [22:44] the adapter claims to be working, I get no error messages, but when I scan to find BT devices, I get none - and I'm pretty certain there are BT devices in the vicinity [22:45] There is some reason you can't just update to hwe kernel? That would include the driver already.... [22:46] hmmm... [22:46] let me try that [22:47] "apt source" always reminds me WHY "man apt" or "apt --help" doesn't mention "source" as an available command [22:47] there's a dissmisive statement in man 8 apt-get too [22:47] make sure you have jammy-updates (for 6.5) or jammy-proposed (for 6.8) enabled in sources. [22:47] 6.8 is available for jammy [22:47] I'm on focal [22:47] You said 22.04 which is jammy [22:47] scan, pair, trust bluetooth devices manually, with bluetoothctl , after trusting the standard tool will work fine [22:47] https://knowledgebase.frame.work/ubuntu-bluetooth-S1PGxfho [22:48] 5.4 sounds like focal https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux [22:48] it is [22:49] but yeah if you're on focal, hwe isn't new enough, need >5.16 [22:49] what's the difference between "generic-hwe-* and "generic-hwe-*-edge"? [22:50] the latter can (rarely) be newer, less tested [22:50] edge is more "bleeding edge" [22:50] need to be > 5.16 to achieve what functionality? [22:51] BTW just to make sure, I won't neglect this, thank you enigma9o7, sixwheeledbeast, oerheks, tomreyn [22:51] "That would include the driver already...." [22:51] so I need to get to a kernel > 5.16, right? [22:52] Ya. [22:52] I don't see that's possible with focal [22:52] so maybe you have found another good reason to upgrade soon [22:52] I'm pretty certain that if I go from focal to jammy other stuff will break [22:52] anyway, I'll consider it [22:53] So start over clean with noble. [22:53] enigma9o7: that machine is _weak_ [22:53] what are you concerned of breaking? [22:53] I'm pretty certain that if you don't go from focal to something newer at some point, other stuff will break, too. [22:54] 22.04 LTS is pretty amazing. [22:54] sixwheeledbeast: there is another USB Dongle (WiFi) and I even tried with: "5.15.0-97-generic" some time ago and I think the graphics also stopped working ok (even though it only has an on-board Intel graphics chipset) [22:55] 22.04 has 18 months more of updates to go, right? [22:56] that didn't really answer the question. I can't see graphics breaking moving to jammy [22:57] https://termbin.com/mb34 [22:58] jammy is Apr 2027 for support [22:58] focal is 2025 [22:58] you should get more ram [23:00] am running ubuntu-mate on a dual core laptop with built in graphics that's older... [23:00] tomreyn: I think it can possible go to 4GB at most [23:01] possibly* [23:01] ok I'm preparing to move to jammy [23:01] that's what the specs say, yes [23:02] Good luck. [23:06] what do you think about having one .list file inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ PER release and PER component (e.g.: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/focal_main.list, /etc/apt/sources.list.d/focal-backports_main.list, ... )? [23:06] its your machine, go for it. [23:06] ummm... is there a "partner" component? [23:07] you can include that on the line with main [23:07] iirc [23:07] if they even still use that? [23:11] i think focal was the last release to have non-empty partner repository http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/ [23:18] how much free diskspace would you say would suffice going from focal -> jammy? [23:18] should I do a dist-upgrade or ask for a specific kernel to be installed and let apt do the rest? [23:18] Uh oh. If you have to ask, probably more than you have. [23:21] I am known hoarder, digitally and analogue. xD [23:22] that machine has a very very bad setup too, it has one LVM LV and everything's in it [23:22] I have 13GB free [23:23] I would guess that should be enough. [23:23] well, as long as you have current and complete backups, deleting some gigs shouldn't hurt much [23:23] I think it might be wise to connect that machine via ethernet before I ask for the upgrade to happen [23:24] how come there a linux-image-generic-hwe metapackage doesn't exist? [23:24] linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04 [23:24] or -20.04 [23:25] that's on kernel 6.x [23:25] 6.5.0.45.45~22.04.1 [23:26] jammy-updates (for 6.5) or jammy-proposed (for 6.8) [23:27] either one should get you the driver you're looking for [23:29] so, place your bets: dist-upgrade or apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04 and see what happens? [23:31] btw. ubuntu mate 20.04 is EOL [23:31] hmmm... it will only install 4 packages with the latter: [23:31]