| olspookishmagus | tomreyn: are you sayind I should remove the focal .list files? | 00:01 |
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| olspookishmagus | sorry people, some some _magic_ reason my ISP decided it will no longer offer me internet access | 00:01 |
| olspookishmagus | I'm now using my 5G phone connection as a hotspot (and NO I won't do an upgrade over this) | 00:01 |
| tomreyn | olspookishmagus: you should not have a different releases' apt sources configured on your computer | 00:03 |
| tomreyn | i don't know what's in those files. | 00:03 |
| olspookishmagus | tomreyn: https://termbin.com/bawi | 00:07 |
| tomreyn | olspookishmagus: so i guess the focal sources are fine IF you are currently on 20.04, are you? | 00:09 |
| tomreyn | olspookishmagus: but why would you then also have jammy sources? | 00:09 |
| olspookishmagus | so, the plan is, remove the focal ones and then upgrade _or_ upgrade first and then remove the focal ones? | 00:10 |
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| olspookishmagus | I still am on focal yes, I was lucky to have stopped the process, before my internet outage | 00:11 |
| olspookishmagus | what a timing | 00:11 |
| tomreyn | i'm guessing you probably have a mixed system now | 00:12 |
| olspookishmagus | now, why it doesn't have any package from jammy now | 00:13 |
| olspookishmagus | no* | 00:13 |
| olspookishmagus | what's the procedure to do it right? add new release sources, remove the older ones, then upgrade _OR_ have both source, upgrade and then remove the older ones? | 00:14 |
| olspookishmagus | in case it matters, that's supposed to be a 'lubuntu' | 00:14 |
| Bashing-om | olspookishmagus: Ubuntu supported way to upgrade ' sudo apt updte ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo do-release-upgrade ' . | 00:18 |
| olspookishmagus | Bashing-om: but what about the procedure to introduce new sources to the system? | 00:20 |
| ravage | You do not touch them | 00:21 |
| olspookishmagus | how would focal go to jammy if I do not touch them? | 00:21 |
| ravage | do-release-upgrade does all of that for you | 00:22 |
| olspookishmagus | so logically "do-release-upgrade" runs a regex replacement against sources .list files after the upgrade and then does an renewd upgrade, I see | 00:23 |
| olspookishmagus | so therefore in m case, since I had upgraded my system just few hours ago (while no other but focal sources list were present) | 00:23 |
| olspookishmagus | I can go ahead and remove the focal ones and do an upgrade | 00:24 |
| ravage | No | 00:24 |
| ravage | That is not a supported upgrade path | 00:24 |
| olspookishmagus | remove the jammy ones, and do a release upgrade? | 00:24 |
| ravage | You need to restore the focal sources | 00:24 |
| ravage | And if you already installed any jammy packages remove them | 00:25 |
| olspookishmagus | no I was lucky to halt the procedure | 00:25 |
| ravage | Then restore focal | 00:25 |
| olspookishmagus | do-release-upgrade is an alias of dist-upgrade? | 00:25 |
| ravage | No | 00:25 |
| olspookishmagus | ok | 00:26 |
| olspookishmagus | thank you very much tomreyn, Bashing-om and ravage | 00:26 |
| Bashing-om | olspookishmagus: Just trying to keep you on that right path :D | 00:28 |
| tomreyn | personally, i also recommend removing and third party packages and package versions you have installed before starting do-release-upgrade | 00:34 |
| tomreyn | anY | 00:34 |
| mybalzitch | doesn't it to that by default? | 00:35 |
| tomreyn | it disables third party repositories, nothing else | 00:35 |
| tomreyn | ...which is (and has been, for a decade or two) probably the main reason why correctly (as per manual) executed release upgrades fail https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bugs?orderby=-id | 00:44 |
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| SamuelMarks | What's the latest kernel version for 24.04? - I've been purging a bunch and am now on 6.8.0-39 and `sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade` gave me nothing | 01:11 |
| * SamuelMarks seems to recall a -40 | 01:11 | |
| sarnold | yeah there is a .40 https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux | 01:16 |
| SamuelMarks | hmm | 01:16 |
| sarnold | https://ubuntu.com/security/notices/USN-6949-1 | 01:17 |
| junyx | 6.8.0-40 | 01:17 |
| sarnold | do you have security.ubuntu.com in your apt sources? | 01:17 |
| SamuelMarks | How do I upgrade? `sud | 01:18 |
| SamuelMarks | hmm let me check | 01:18 |
| junyx | SamuelMarks some of my systems just got it today. Maybe there's a rolling deployment | 01:18 |
| SamuelMarks | yeah my /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources has http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources | 01:19 |
| SamuelMarks | noble-security noble noble-updates | 01:19 |
| SamuelMarks | junyx - I removed it because there were two entries and I was on mainline but want to install AMD's RoCm and failed last time so just want to purge all old and newer-than-ubuntu-supported variants | 01:19 |
| sarnold | good good .. but then the lists should have had the new kernel. hrmph. | 01:19 |
| sarnold | any chance you accidentally removed the metapacakge that is used to bring in the new kernels? | 01:20 |
| SamuelMarks | possible, what's that called? | 01:20 |
| sarnold | linux-generic | 01:20 |
| SamuelMarks | Need to get 201 MB of archives. After this operation, 338 MB of additional disk space will be used. | 01:21 |
| SamuelMarks | yep that's the one | 01:21 |
| SamuelMarks | Thanks | 01:21 |
| SamuelMarks | oh and what is the login screen thing on wayland? - I want to purge it and then install it again | 01:22 |
| * SamuelMarks reboots into -40 | 01:24 | |
| junyx | What was the solution? | 01:26 |
| sarnold | probably sudo apt install linux-generic | 01:27 |
| * SamuelMarks is back | 01:28 | |
| sarnold | that was quick :) nice | 01:28 |
| SamuelMarks | yep I've got this awful 70% average CPU usage with ownly irssi r | 01:28 |
| sarnold | owwwwwww | 01:28 |
| SamuelMarks | running; going to try to install rocm again for 24.04 and if that doesn't work stall a new fresh ubuntu and try again | 01:29 |
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| SamuelMarks | What's the desktop environment and login manager and compositor by default for Ubuntu with Wayland? - I want to remove all those packages first `purge` then install again then reboot then rocm install | 01:30 |
| sarnold | is rocm supposed to let you still use a gui / desktop / etc? | 01:30 |
| SamuelMarks | yeah it's basically CUDA for AMD | 01:30 |
| SamuelMarks | + drivers | 01:30 |
| sarnold | I think gnome-shell is probably the starting point; i'm not sure on the gdm thing that might be used. it might be gdm | 01:30 |
| sarnold | SamuelMarks: try: systemctl show graphical.target | grep Wants | 01:32 |
| sarnold | SamuelMarks: probably the display manager in use is listed in that mess | 01:32 |
| SamuelMarks | ok just purged gnome-shell and gdm and autoremove after | 01:32 |
| SamuelMarks | Wants=switcheroo-control.service "var-snap-firefox-common-host\\x2dhunspell.mount" systemd-update-utmp-runlevel.service gnome-remote-desktop.service accounts-daemon.service display-manager.service pulseaudio-enable-autospawn.service udisks2.service power-profiles-daemon.service | 01:32 |
| SamuelMarks | ^ sarnold thats what I get from your `grep` | 01:33 |
| sarnold | yay! does dpkg -S display-manager.service show you the package in question? | 01:33 |
| SamuelMarks | no path found | 01:34 |
| sarnold | oh dang | 01:34 |
| sarnold | systemctl show display-manager.service then? | 01:34 |
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| SamuelMarks | LoadError=org.freedesktop.systemd1.NoSuchUnit "Unit display-manager.service not | 01:35 |
| SamuelMarks | maybe it's gone already and this is just a fantasy (in memory) | 01:35 |
| SamuelMarks | let me reboot | 01:35 |
| oerheks | reinstall ubuntu-desktop | 01:36 |
| SamuelMarks | yay - no desktop environment and my computer is getting super hot | 01:43 |
| sarnold | perf top? | 01:43 |
| SamuelMarks | __symbols_insert | 01:44 |
| SamuelMarks | memcpy_toi | 01:45 |
| SamuelMarks | those are the top ones by a mile | 01:45 |
| SamuelMarks | I'll wait a bit longer then install, what, `ubuntu-desktop-minimal`? - Or just `gdm gnome-shell`? | 01:47 |
| sarnold | while you were rebooting, oerheks suggested reinstalling ubuntu-desktop | 01:47 |
| sarnold | i've seen that used as a decent all-purpose fix for problems lately but I don't know what those problems actually were :) | 01:47 |
| sarnold | but I don't know what you're doing, the rocm things feel like a pretty big step off the usual path | 01:48 |
| oerheks | if sensors is installed, what do they say? | 01:48 |
| SamuelMarks | mmm | 01:48 |
| sarnold | i can't figure out what either of those symbols would be from; qemu and grub are doing some memcpy_toio sorts of things .. I can *guess* that that's doing some weird io ports things that I never understood | 01:49 |
| sarnold | https://codesearch.debian.net/search?q=memcpy_toi&literal=0 | 01:49 |
| SamuelMarks | https://termbin.com/x1p8 | 01:49 |
| SamuelMarks | oerheks ^ | 01:50 |
| oerheks | seems fine | 01:50 |
| sarnold | heh I was just about to say it seems a bit warm especially if it's just doing irssi | 01:50 |
| SamuelMarks | irssi is a BEAST | 01:50 |
| SamuelMarks | lol I'm not even XDCCing :P | 01:51 |
| oerheks | nvme high = +65261.8°C 🤪 | 01:51 |
| SamuelMarks | I should crack an egg on that | 01:51 |
| oerheks | low = -273.1°C .. amazing | 01:52 |
| SamuelMarks | Wait is this a hardware fault? - I just installed `sensors` BTW | 01:52 |
| SamuelMarks | I want kelvin :P | 01:52 |
| oerheks | run sensors detect and hit y | 01:52 |
| SamuelMarks | parse error in chip name detect | 01:53 |
| SamuelMarks | --detect? | 01:53 |
| oerheks | sensors-detect | 01:54 |
| oerheks | sensors -f for fahrenheit | 01:54 |
| SamuelMarks | sorry no sensors detected | 01:55 |
| SamuelMarks | this is fairly common on laptops - blah blah blah | 01:55 |
| SamuelMarks | yeah this is a laptop | 01:55 |
| oerheks | too new? | 01:55 |
| SamuelMarks | it's almost 2 years old | 01:55 |
| SamuelMarks | Dell Alienware AMD Ryszn 9 6900HX - 32 GiB of RAM - AMD Radeon RX 6850M XT 12 GB GDDR6 GPU | 01:57 |
| SamuelMarks | Alienware m17 R5 AMD | 01:58 |
| SamuelMarks | ok I'm going to try the `apt install ubuntu-install-minimal`, reboot, followed by rocm, then reboot | 02:00 |
| * SamuelMarks asks for luck | 02:00 | |
| oerheks | hmm, maybe that is why you need pop-os. | 02:00 |
| oerheks | ? | 02:00 |
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| chmod777_lmtr | how to search file in xfce thunar folder | 02:23 |
| Bashing-om | chmod777_lmtr: GUI serach in xfce is in mousepad - as started from thunar. | 02:26 |
| oerheks | ctrl + f | 02:28 |
| enigma9o7 | find /path/to/thunar/file -name filename | 02:42 |
| enigma9o7 | errr "find /path/to/thunar/folder -name filename" | 02:42 |
| mrmuscle | When god created the universe he said let the first man be niggggggg ghheerrr | 02:43 |
| oerheks | not here, mrmuscle | 02:43 |
| oerheks | !ops | 02:43 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - CarlFK, DJones, el, Flannel, genii, hggdh, ikonia, krytarik, mneptok, mwsb, nhandler, ogra, Pici, popey, sarnold, tomreyn, Unit193, wgrant | 02:43 |
| Soy_el_Pulpo | LOL, someby pressed the ¨eject¨ button | 02:55 |
| Soy_el_Pulpo | *somebody* | 02:55 |
| Soy_el_Pulpo | thanks for saving us | 02:55 |
| enigma9o7 | don't trust that religious nonsense | 03:16 |
| SamuelMarks | yay - for anyone who has been following and assisting with my troubleshootings, CPUs are all finally under a few percentage utilisation each, go the kernel DKMS working, going to install rocm now | 03:56 |
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| BUNGA | hai | 04:10 |
| Guest5196 | hello | 04:19 |
| BUNGA | hai | 04:20 |
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| olspookishmagus | I have initiated do-release-upgrade | 05:57 |
| junyx | olspookishmagus praying for you | 05:58 |
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| olspookishmagus | 2~2~ok, after some time, now I was asked to remove "obsolete" packages which I opted in for, then I noticed it will remove all other kernels too | 08:53 |
| olspookishmagus | anyway, I'll have a look afterwards into /var/log/dpkg* and see what was removed and if what got removed is really obsolete or not and look at how the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* is now structured | 08:53 |
| olspookishmagus | then I was asked if I wanted to do an automated reboot, I opted out and did that reboot manually - system booted and even though the kernel is not an "hwe" one everything seems to be working (USB WiFi Dongle, USB BlueTooth Dongle) | 08:53 |
| olspookishmagus | 08:53 | |
| olspookishmagus | thank you enigma9o7, sixwheeledbeast, oerheks, tomreyn, Bashing-om, junyx | 08:53 |
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| sixwheeledbeast | you'd have to add hwe again if you want that. | 08:59 |
| sixwheeledbeast | you'll have to see what performance is like | 09:00 |
| olspookishmagus | there are some packages not getting upgraded and I'm seeing I haven't seen in debian's apt-cache policy output | 09:00 |
| olspookishmagus | namely a: "(phased 10%)" | 09:00 |
| olspookishmagus | what's that? | 09:01 |
| olspookishmagus | context: https://termbin.com/d7td | 09:08 |
| sixwheeledbeast | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PhasedUpdates | 09:09 |
| olspookishmagus | thank you once more sixwheeledbeast | 09:21 |
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| loller | hey! anyone familiar with NoiseTorch and if it can be used to create active noise-cancelling headphones with a microphone as opposed to just filtering background noise from recordings? | 10:05 |
| loller | basically, there's a festival right outside where I live and I need to study for the coming days, and what I'm looking for is a way to filter out the noise from outside with my headphones (besides drowning it out with music of my own) | 10:07 |
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| JanC | loller: I don't think that does active noise cancelling | 10:16 |
| tomreyn | in my understandiung, "a" in "active" / "ANC" stands for something actually generating sound waves to cancel incoming sound waves, i.e. you need a speaker, too, and just software won't suffice. | 10:18 |
| JanC | well, they have headphones & a microphone, so in theory it's possible (although latency might be an issue) | 10:19 |
| loller | tomreyn: well my thinking was I could use my microphone and headphones | 10:19 |
| tomreyn | direction would differ then, though, also, you'd still need a software that plays back those sounds | 10:20 |
| loller | yeah the NoiseTorch page even mentioned something about latency still being an issue (but for the "common" use of filtering input for Skype calls etc.) | 10:20 |
| JanC | no, NoiseTorch does something entirely different | 10:20 |
| loller | tomreyn: yeah what I was hoping was there would be a way to route the filtered input to my own headphones | 10:21 |
| loller | JanC: I see | 10:21 |
| loller | that was sort of my fear | 10:21 |
| JanC | NoiseTorch takes microphone input & filters noise from it then creates a virtual microphone that apps can use to get less noisy audio | 10:21 |
| loller | ugh, maybe I will have to pack my bags and go out to my family's summer house for a few days then | 10:22 |
| loller | at least I'm lucky enough to have that option | 10:22 |
| loller | but still a big hassle | 10:22 |
| JanC | what you need is something that takes microphone input an d then plays a "mirror sound" for what the microphone picks up | 10:22 |
| loller | every year they schedule this really, really loud music festival right when we have summer exams | 10:23 |
| loller | it's great | 10:23 |
| loller | really makes me love this city | 10:23 |
| JanC | well, if you know beforehand maybe a good idea to plan the summer house trip beforehand too ;) | 10:24 |
| loller | JanC: yeah that's what I was hoping I could set up NoiseTorch to do, but the more I read about it, the less it seemed it was really designed to do that | 10:24 |
| JanC | or maybe there are places in the city where you can study (libraries, ...) | 10:24 |
| loller | the best thing is I finally managed to (with huge effort and sacrificing a day of study) to fix my circadian rhythm | 10:25 |
| loller | so now I'm getting up at 8 AM instead of 7 PM | 10:25 |
| JanC | some universities & student cities set up "study spaces" like that also | 10:26 |
| loller | only now that's actually a liablity because they play music throughout the day and into the night, but not so late to infuriate the more normal people | 10:26 |
| loller | JanC: that's true, I could actually go to the uni library | 10:26 |
| loller | I hadn't thought of that | 10:26 |
| loller | thanks for the idea | 10:26 |
| tomreyn | loller: please keep in mind we do ubuntu support only here. good luck overcoming this issue! | 10:26 |
| loller | yeah I guess maybe I shouldn't prattle on too much about it here. thanks =) | 10:27 |
| tomreyn | there's other places such as ##chat if you'd like to keep talking about anything non ubuntu support | 10:29 |
| JanC | one thing you could still do is ask in #ubuntustudio | 10:29 |
| JanC | that's where the audio freaks tend to hang out :) | 10:29 |
| ztane | noice. no lvm support in the default installer | 11:09 |
| ztane | i.e. even if you create lvs in the shell it still does not work in the desktop installer. Used to work for 10 years. | 11:09 |
| BluesKaj | Hi all | 11:54 |
| xskraito | hi all | 12:15 |
| * xskraito hi all Hail Lord Jesus Christ and happy sabbath day all ... . friday night to saturday night ... . | 12:16 | |
| pragmaticenigma | xskraito: that's not appropriate for this channel. if you are seeking assistance using Ubuntu, please ask a related question. You are welcome to stay and watch, but you must remain on topic if you desire to participate. Libera is a large network of channels, I'm sure there is a better place to have posted that message. | 12:18 |
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| EnlGmA | any updates on paris olympics 2024? | 13:36 |
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| Tyaku | Hello, I would like to do something, I don't know if it exists and the name of the feature. This is what I want to do: I have a fresh install of ubuntu. I would like to configure something like a second rootfs, where i can put files in /lib /bin /include for example and that will be automatically "integrated" into the main rootfs. This is for exemple to add custom scripts. I don't want to add my custom | 14:51 |
| Tyaku | scripts directly in /bin /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin because I want to get it "clean" and I want to see "easily" the stuff that I have added | 14:52 |
| pragmaticenigma | Tyaku: if you have custom scripts and applications that you install manually, place them in /opt ... which they can be executed from within that location. | 14:54 |
| Apachez | how do you see if its the in-tree or out-of-tree kernel module for an intel nic which is being used? | 15:03 |
| pragmaticenigma | What do you mean by in-tree / out-of-tree ? | 15:04 |
| pragmaticenigma | Apachez: I would believe that if a module is not in mainline kernel, it would be listed by DKMS: `dkms status` | 15:07 |
| pragmaticenigma | assuming it is a module that is maintained by DKMS triggers | 15:07 |
| Apachez | in-tree are the one released with linux vanilla kernel. Out-of-tree are the one released by intel themselves over at https://sourceforge.net/projects/e1000/ (soon to be https://intel.github.io/ethernet-linux/) | 15:07 |
| Apachez | the out-of-tree have better features and support incl 3rd party transceivers and whatelse | 15:07 |
| Apachez | but I havent found out an easy way to spot if a server use the in-tree or out-of-tree drivers since they both will have the same name for a particular model such as "igb" | 15:08 |
| Apachez | I dont think its pulled in with dkms | 15:08 |
| pragmaticenigma | Apachez: to the best of my knowledge, there is no such thing as terms "in-tree" and "out-of-tree"... the are mainline kernel modules (which are part of the kernel package) and non-mainline kernel modules (which are usually require re-compiling with kernel updates) | 15:09 |
| Apachez | yes they are named in-tree and out-of-tree drivers | 15:09 |
| Apachez | here you got some sources naming it the same way other then intel: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Intel-IGB-IXGBE-Firmware-Update | 15:10 |
| pragmaticenigma | Apachez: arguing with me over nomenclature is not productive. I have been at this for over 20 years and this is the first I have ever heard those terms. Suffice it to say, you're best be prepared to define those going forward as I'm sure I'm not the only one | 15:11 |
| pragmaticenigma | Apachez: if you install vendor supplied drivers, through apt, they would include a DKMS trigger, so the kernel updates would auto-update the vendor supplied kernel modules. Otherwise, every kernel update would break the network drivers and on reboot, the system wouldn't have a network connection | 15:12 |
| pragmaticenigma | So with any recent kernel update, you did not lose network connectivity, you are using drivers available in provided kernel package | 15:13 |
| Apachez | this is more of a neutral question... of course if I install the out-of-tree drivers myself I know what Im doing but lets say I login to a system (ubuntu or not). By just looking at the driver name wont give out if its the in-tree or out-of-tree driver being uesd | 15:30 |
| Apachez | pragmaticenigma: argumenting that you have called something uncorrectly for 20 years isnt productive when you should learn the correct vocabulary | 15:31 |
| Apachez | uncorrectly=incorrectly | 15:31 |
| pragmaticenigma | So you don't actually have a question about Ubuntu, okay then... have a nice day... Linux kernel questions are probably best answered in #kernel | 15:33 |
| Apachez | yes it was about ubuntu and linux | 15:34 |
| Apachez | if you dont know the answer you dont have to reply | 15:34 |
| pragmaticenigma | I gave you a suggestion 30 minutes ago. but you chose to be combative | 15:37 |
| Apachez | you choosed to not give answers at all and instead claim your incompetence for 20 years as an argument | 15:38 |
| pragmaticenigma | dude... you need to chill out | 15:42 |
| Apachez | dude... Im not your "dude" | 15:52 |
| BarnabasDK | this is an official support channel, could you two please duke it out somewhere else? | 15:53 |
| ravage | You mean dude it out :P | 15:53 |
| BarnabasDK | whatever - as long as it is somewhere else | 15:54 |
| BarnabasDK | #ubuntu-offtopic comes to mind | 15:56 |
| Apachez | ravage: :D | 16:02 |
| DLange | Apachez: modinfo igb (has intree:) | 16:09 |
| Apachez | ahh there it is :) | 16:15 |
| Apachez | modinfo <name> | grep -i intree | 16:15 |
| Apachez | thanks! | 16:15 |
| BarnabasDK | did not know about the intree info in the module meta data - thanks | 16:34 |
| steven_ | hello girls | 16:58 |
| eblan | Я ебал слона | 17:16 |
| bebop | why can't I do "sudo do-release-upgrade" from my 22.04.4 to 24.04 LTS when it says its already been released? | 17:40 |
| ravage | Wait a few more days. Upgrades will be available with the release of 24.04.1 | 17:42 |
| bebop | gotcha, gotta wait for the .1 | 17:43 |
| bebop | had this server running for 5 years now and have kept it in the lts branch and saw 24.04 had been available but just realized I needed to wait for the .1 for bug fixes... thanks | 17:44 |
| Apachez | bebop: or if you dont want to wait you can change the branch to "any" and do a new do-release-upgrade | 17:46 |
| Apachez | or just do-release-upgrade -d | 17:46 |
| Apachez | +sudo of course | 17:46 |
| bebop | I prefer to keep it lts, it's a big server | 17:48 |
| bebop | big network print server | 17:48 |
| comph | hi, i installed the latest ubuntu server, and the wifi adapter is not working. | 17:51 |
| comph | it says "device not ready" | 17:52 |
| comph | the brand is: NetGear, Inc. WNA1000M 802.11bgn [Realtek RTL8188CUS] | 17:52 |
| comph | (output of lsusb) | 17:52 |
| comph | rfkill says it's not blocked | 17:53 |
| comph | i changed the NetworkManager.conf from managed=false to true | 17:53 |
| comph | restarted networking but no luck | 17:54 |
| bebop | https://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2218501.html | 17:54 |
| ioria | comph, check /etc/netplan/*.yaml | 17:58 |
| comph | ioria: there are two empty files there | 18:02 |
| comph | bebop: that driver seems deprecated | 18:03 |
| comph | i might have ruined my system trying to install it | 18:03 |
| comph | no wait i got the right one | 18:04 |
| comph | might still be deprecated but will be installed correctly at least | 18:05 |
| comph | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 6.8.0-39-generic (x86_64) | 18:05 |
| jedorf | Hi ! I need a help, something I absolutely don't understand what's happening, yesterday I updated my server, send to another local, send to external, receive from local, receive from external, all of that worked | 18:11 |
| jedorf | then, I updated my server today, theses packages where updated : krb5-locales libgssapi-krb5-2 libk5crypto3 libkrb5-3 libkrb5support0 libldap-2.5-0 libldap-common + a kernel version | 18:11 |
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| jedorf | and now, I cannot send to external, but I can send to local, and receive from local and receive from external | 18:12 |
| jedorf | I use postfix/dovecot, and a relay: mailgun | 18:13 |
| comph | hmm there was a newer driver, but it doesn't seem to install | 18:13 |
| comph | rebooted ok | 18:13 |
| jedorf | rebooted didn't change | 18:13 |
| jedorf | I don't get it | 18:16 |
| jedorf | I don't understand | 18:16 |
| Apachez | bebop: yes but upgrading with -d will get you to the LTS same as if you would download an ISO and freshly install it today. The recommendation from ubuntu is however to wait for x.x.1 release to deal with any upgrade issues they might have missed | 18:24 |
| Apachez | I ran into one where the finish of the install didnt complete due to dns resolving missing through systemd. Easily fixed by adding the systemd-resolvd but still | 18:25 |
| oerheks | *if* you do, prepare a fresh 24.04 iso on usb first. | 18:31 |
| Apachez | yeah handy to resolve issue if things goes south but you should have this anyway unless you have extra computers available to fix such iso later on if needed | 18:38 |
| superboot | c | 18:59 |
| edgy | Hi, if I have a package and want to know which package installed it, e.g usbutils, how can I do it? | 19:29 |
| oerheks | one can use ubottu | 19:31 |
| oerheks | !find usbutils | 19:31 |
| ubottu | Found: usbutils, usbutils-py | 19:31 |
| ravage | apt-cache rdepends --installed usbutils | 19:31 |
| ravage | should also do it | 19:31 |
| ravage | !depends usbutils | 19:32 |
| ubottu | usbutils (1:017-3build1, noble): Depends on libc6 (>= 2.38), libudev1 (>= 196), libusb-1.0-0 (>= 2:1.0.22) | 19:32 |
| oerheks | !info usbutils | 19:32 |
| ubottu | usbutils (1:017-3build1, noble): Linux USB utilities. In component main, is standard. Built by usbutils. Size 83 kB / 321 kB. (Only available for linux-any.) | 19:32 |
| ravage | but rdepends looks like what you want? | 19:32 |
| ravage | it should also be visible in your apt.log | 19:33 |
| ravage | eh history.log right? | 19:33 |
| oerheks | standard. so you have it from installation | 19:33 |
| ravage | it was maybe not the best example | 19:35 |
| ravage | but he said its just an example | 19:35 |
| oerheks | nice example | 19:35 |
| pycurious | On my laptop, I installed ubuntu 24 desktop aside windows. By default, Windows boots. If I press F11/F12, I get to select between ubuntu and windows -> If I select ubuntu, Grub shows up. How do I get grub by default without keyboard interaction? | 19:51 |
| SamuelMarks | the 'logs' gui software on ubuntu, how do I launch it from terminal? - it's not opening up and I assume I'll get a nice debug message if I open from CLI | 19:51 |
| pycurious | fixed - it was the bios boot order issue. Thanks! | 19:53 |
| * SamuelMarks is trying to debug why multiple things got slow and don't open properly after installing rocm (`amdgpu-dkms` alone and everything was nice and fast) | 19:54 | |
| pycurious | On my laptop, I can install 20.04LTS alongside windows, no issues there. When I try to install 20.04LTS - it does not recognize the nvme drive for installation. Any ideas on how fix that? | 19:56 |
| tomreyn | pycurious: you would probably need to disable "Intel RST" "RAID" in bios. but this may stop windows from working, so better read up on how to unbreak it before you do that. | 20:04 |
| oerheks | disable fastboot, perhaps? | 20:04 |
| pycurious | @tomreyn I tried to find RAID in the bios. No mention of that word there. | 20:06 |
| pycurious | @tomreyn On the MSI GE 68HX laptops - there is no Storage entry for RST/RAID - unless I missed it - I checked each bios entry. | 20:07 |
| tomreyn | did you find "RST" or "rapid store technology", though? | 20:07 |
| pycurious | @oerheks The issue for the boot was just that the order was wrong for boots. The ordering fixed it. | 20:07 |
| pycurious | @tomreyn double checking. I am almost sure there is not "RST" or "rst" in the bios. But will let you know in 1 minute | 20:07 |
| oerheks | [21:51:44] <SamuelMarks> the 'logs' gui software on ubuntu > gnome-logs | 20:08 |
| pycurious | @tomreyn There is an RST! It's in "Main/Storeage Information" section -> PCIE Information -> PCIE SSD -> RST SAMSUNG … - its not something I can change. Looking more. | 20:09 |
| tomreyn | oh it could be called "optane" as well | 20:09 |
| tomreyn | which ubuntu version are you installing? | 20:10 |
| tomreyn | 20.04.0, or a newer point release? | 20:10 |
| comph | i'm back at installing the original driver | 20:10 |
| comph | i think it's missing firmware | 20:11 |
| comph | is a driver and firmware separate? | 20:11 |
| pycurious | There is another place I found RST -> Again something I can't change. It's Advanced-> Intel Rapid storage technology -> PCIe Samsung -> .. among other things it does say Status -> Non-RAID. - but nothing i can change here | 20:11 |
| tomreyn | pycurious: then it's either a different issue, or it needs to be deactivated from windows | 20:11 |
| paganbbs | !hi my discovery DOESNTON worx | 20:12 |
| ubottu | paganbbs: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 20:12 |
| pycurious | @tomreynI'm trying to install desktop 20.04LTS - ubuntu-20.04.6-desktop-amd64.iso | 20:12 |
| tomreyn | pycurious: ok, that's still supported, good. have you considered a newer release, though? | 20:13 |
| pycurious | @tomreyn Ubuntu 24.04LTS installed without any issues. For the ISO above, it just doesnt detect it. The way I'm installing is that I shrink C: on Windows and use that space to install ubuntu. When I boot using the 20.04.6 installer, it only sees the USB drive on the system (which I plugged in for installation) - and not the nvme. | 20:14 |
| pycurious | @tomreyn I have a legacy software that currently works only on 20.04LTS - hence the need to install an older OS | 20:14 |
| oerheks | could still be a fastboot issue, disable it in windows | 20:15 |
| pycurious | k - tryint to disable fastboot now | 20:17 |
| tomreyn | pycurious: if the issue persists, run this from the the "try ubuntu" live system: sudo dmesg | grep 'nvme.*Unable to change power state' - if it generates any output you are likely affected by https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214035 | 20:20 |
| -ubottu:#ubuntu- bugzilla.kernel.org bug 214035 in ACPI "acpi_turn_off_unused_power_resources() may take down necessary hardware" [High, Closed: Code_fix] | 20:20 | |
| tomreyn | (i have not actually checked whether those kernel versions match up, though) | 20:20 |
| pycurious | @tomreyn -> dmesg | grep nvme ==> is empty on this machine. | 20:25 |
| pycurious | @oerheks fastboot off -> Now lsblk in try ubuntu -> Does not show any drives | 20:25 |
| Aavar | tomreyn: Regarding my issue with PCI passthrough yesterday. I was able to upgrade the bios via Windows and the setting for enabling VT-D was there. I still get the same error when I try to pass through the NIC. Just FYI :) | 20:41 |
| pycurious | @tomreyn @oerheks any other suggestions ? | 20:49 |
| oerheks | no idea, must be an UEFI issue, some brands are sensitive with keys | 20:51 |
| pycurious | oerheks: My problem is just that the laptop doesnt detect the SSD drive in Ubuntu 20.04.6LTS. Fastboot is disabled. BIOS - whatever I can see looks correct. Ubuntu 24.04LTS detects it correctly and installs without issues | 20:58 |
| SamuelMarks | How do I remove the libraries related to this so that I can install only compatible versions? - libEGL fatal: DRI driver not from this Mesa build ('24.2.0-devel' vs '24.0.9-0ubuntu0.1') | 21:06 |
| * SamuelMarks tried `sudo apt purge libegl1 && sudo apt autoremove && sudo reboot` then `sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop-minimal` | 21:06 | |
| SamuelMarks | libEGL fatal: DRI driver not from this Mesa build ('24.2.0-devel' vs '24.0.9-0ubuntu0.1') | 21:32 |
| paganbbs | ! | 21:56 |
| Siamaster | Hi, my boot has been corrupted and I need help | 22:54 |
| Siamaster | I have both win and ubuntu and used to be able to choose from the grub menu | 22:55 |
| Siamaster | now when I choose win I get invalid signature and I always have to boot into ubuntu twice. First time it initializes but really fails, no drivers and no network then it works when I restart again and go to ubuntu. I have to choose win from BIOS to be able to log in to win | 22:56 |
| bprompt | !find grub rescue | 23:03 |
| ubottu | 'rescue' is not a valid release | 23:03 |
| bprompt | hmmm | 23:03 |
| bprompt | Siamaster: check https://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd <---- in essence is simply running a LiveUSB session, and doing a chroot to the system with the linux installation, once in the session, you do the mount -o bind to proc, dev, and sys directories, and only THEN run update-grub, from a chroot session, the update-grub will take place in the mounted linux system, NOT the live session, thus updating the Grub | 23:07 |
| bprompt | information on where the windows and ubuntu installations are | 23:07 |
| Siamaster | Thanks! I will try that | 23:08 |
| bprompt | Siamaster: when done, simply reboot, right now, I take it the UUID in use by the windows installation may have changed, and grub is looking for the old UUID, no longer there | 23:09 |
| Siamaster | Yeah, it feels like something Win has caused | 23:10 |
| Siamaster | but I don't get why I'm required to log into ubuntu twice | 23:10 |
| Siamaster | it fails the first time, seems like it corrects itself after a reboot. | 23:10 |
| bprompt | Siamaster: good change the UUID in use for Ubuntu changed too | 23:11 |
| Siamaster | so both UUIS have changed you mean? | 23:11 |
| Siamaster | UUIDS | 23:11 |
| bprompt | Siamaster: yeap, there are ways to get it back, using "blkid" and "uuid" commands, but update-grub can automate all that | 23:12 |
| Siamaster | ok | 23:13 |
| bprompt | Siamaster: once you get the correct UUID, then edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and so on, but update-grub does all the probing and editing, however it has to be done from a chroot, well, wait a minute, you said you can login Ubuntu, if you can, then try just running "sudo update-grub: from there, not need for a chroot | 23:13 |
| Siamaster | cool, I did that. let me reboot and see :D | 23:14 |
| bprompt | "sudo update-grub", once logged in Ubuntu | 23:14 |
| bprompt | right | 23:14 |
| Siamaster | no that didn't fix the issue :/ but Win was now off the grub list and I had to retry ubuntu several times before it fixed itself | 23:23 |
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